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It's really easy to not be charged with rape. Don't rape anyone. There, you're a hometown hero.
A lot of men have their lives destroyed by false accusations
Alright, name all the accusations proven to be false after actual cases that went to court and how exactly their lives were "ruined" I'll wait.
There are men who spent years in prison
And the woman said she lied
Name the men. Name the women who are proven frauds. If they were caught so hard in the like surely googling their name will get you a good article right?
@elizabeta most of the examples of this were cases of white women blaming black men for rape, which is embedded with racism not feminism.
Bless.
So you are denying it happens?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape
"DiCanio (1993) states [...] researchers and prosecutors generally agree on a range of 2% to 10%."
An FBI report from 1997 puts the proportion of provable false accusations at 8%.
In comparison, the percentage of actual convictions are 10%. Meaning roughly 80% of rape cases have insufficient evidence to either prove the defendant's guilt, or that of the accuser/victim.
But if you want a recent example - mattress girl, that is, Emma Sulkowitz. She claimed rape. Police investigated, found out she was lying.
That's just one case, there are a shitton more. Thankfully there was no conviction here, but there is this case:
www.independent.co.uk/.../...komenda-a8355471.html
Again, I literally just googled "acquitted false allegation". End of story.
@Benedek38 so you're saying the MeToo movement and arguments against sexual assault should be illegitimised because 2-10% of rape accusations may or may not be falsified?
@Gypsy_x
Sexual assault is bad, nobody said it isn't. The police can investigate it. There you go.
The #Metoo bullshit circumvented this process, and gave power to the people directly to attack the accused without fair trial. This goes against any kind of legal procedure, and is a disgrace on the face of democracy and an issue for democratic free society. So regardless of what the conviction and false convicton rates are, Metoo has to go, because it promotes feelings over justice.
@Gypsy_x
Women who make false accusations against men should be punished depending on the damage done to men
@Benedek38 And then if anyone is convicted, he will receive a reduced sentence because he has already been through enough (e. g. Brock Turner).
The MeToo movement isn't just about criminal behaviour, its about immoral, non-consensual behaviour that needs to be highlighted and discouraged.
And if women lie in the court of law, they can be charged with perjury.
Yeah, that would be true, if you didn't take in account that people aren't robots and their attitude change with how they perceive the world.
Simple exemple, a woman can accept that a hot guy try to flirt with her, while she would find a ugly guy doing the same creepy, and therefore feels it's bad. It's the same action, but depending on who does it, the perception changes.
Another example, a woman can sleep willingly with a guy, then realize it will hurt her reputation if it's known that she accepted, and therefore call it rape to preserve the said reputation. And since no one will ever dare to say a "rape victim" is lying, people will believe her and the man will be charged and considered as guilty, until proven innocent, which in case there are no proof of it, is impossible.
See, it's easy.
Ah yes the classic "Name me the exact names that you shouldn't have to know in the first place" argument lmao
@Guanfei dude, are you kidding me? Have you ever sat in on a rape trial? What do you think every defence attorney does? Literally try and convince the jury that the woman is lying! That is continuously what women who have been raped face - people discrediting them.
@Maxemeister and the classic "I'm going to cite claims that I can't provide any factual basis for".
@Gypsy_x That's bullshit and you know it. A woman just have to pretend she's been raped, whether it's true or not, and everyone will side with her.
And even if it's proven she lied, the guy will face consequences. His company won't want to keep someone who has been accused of rape, even if he didn't do it. He can lose his family for the same reason. And the "popular justice" will just keep attacking him no matter what.
That's the reality. Going to jail isn't necessarily the only sentence a guy accused of rape can face. Or necessarily the worse.
Popular pressure can do wonder to destroy someone's life, and that person doesn't even have to be proven guilty for it.
@Gypsy_x You're claiming there are no/very few males charged with false rape accusations? Oh this one's gonna be good lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVy3EnOrfok
This video very accurately describes why this argument that "You should believe the victim and not the accused" argument is bullshit
I'm no expert, but I am a criminal lawyer. Very, very few rape accusations actually go to court. Most get dropped because there isn't enough evidence or the victim doesn't want to testify. And the victims that do testify often go through hell (and its worse in the US, at least Australia has a lot of protection for the victim).
We will just have to agree to disagree.
@Gypsy_x I'm hoping you did watch the video (although assuming by the time that it took I think you probably did, thanks for sitting through that, that was a long one.)
I believe being a criminal lawyer makes you an expert.
That still doesn't explain the opinion owner's argument: "Name for me exactly the men who were falsely accused." You can't defend that, because there ARE men that this has happened to. So, "Don't rape anyone. Easy" is a bullshit argument, because the lines are blurred as hell and people can falsely accuse.
I'm asking you to use proof to validate your claim. If you say something like 99% of trees actuallyove when nobody's looking, you better cite some fucking proof that exists
@Gypsy_x
"And then if anyone is convicted, he will receive a reduced sentence because he has already been through enough"
Bullshit.
I bet you haven't even looked into the Brock Turner case.
1) There was no evidence that the sex was non-consensual. Turner claimed it was, the girl claimed she was blackout drunk.
2) The "raped" girl was an older woman with a steady, long term relationship. Do you seriously think she'd going to admit hooking up with a college boy, and risk losing her boyfriend.
3) Actually the INVESTIGATOR advised for a lesser sentence, exactly because he felt that the case was shady at best.
"And if women lie in the court of law, they can be charged with perjury."
Except they rarely are. Plus the penalty for perjury is hardly comparable to the penalty for rape.
@Gypsy_x "I'm no expert, but I am a criminal lawyer."
The fuck you are. You don't have half the brain cells to be a lawyer.
She's still a lawyer no matter how much you hate her knowing more than you about a topic.
She also said "she is not an expert".
I don't know where she got her degree, but if you say you are not an expert as a lawyer - that means you are probably a shitty lawyer. Or you aren't a lawyer at all.
@Benedek38 there is no point discussing this with you, for several reasons.
First, you seem naturally untrustful of women. You are a victim blamer. If you don't believe that Brock Turner is guilty, you are obviously a rapist sympathiser.
Second, it doesn't matter if I am a lawyer, necessarily. It doesn't make me an expert, because I am not pig headed enough to think I know everything. I WOULD argue it makes me know more than YOU, though.
Third, you're 21. Have you dated? Have you spoken to many women? Maybe you should ask the women you have in your life about their experiences. Maybe that will make you feel some compassion.
Fourth, you're namecalling instead of making an actual argument beyond "well some women lie!". Mate, in literally every crime, there are some people wrongly accused. Should we stop believing all witnesses, or only women in rape cases?
@Benedek38 and obviously you don't know how criminal law works. If those aspects are argued during trial, once a guilty verdict is entered, it is basically ruled that the prosecutions case is held. So it doesn't matter if the evidence wasn't super strong etc - he is guilty. He did it. And the fact that the judge gave a 6 month sentence is despicable.
@Gypsy_x
"you seem naturally untrustful of women."
An incorrect observation.
"You are a victim blamer."
I didn't blame anybody, I said that the defendant should be treated as innocent until he/she proves to be guilty. One false conviction is one too many lives ruined.
"If you don't believe that Brock Turner is guilty, you are obviously a rapist sympathiser."
For a lawyer, you have a hard time avoiding debating dallacies. This is a non-sequitor, since not only was there no definitive evidence in the Brock Turner case - only the accouts of the two Swedish tourists -, but Turner was never even accused of rape, as there was no penetration with his penis. At worst I am a sexual assault sympathizer, but again - there was no definitive proof, which is why the judge ruled heavily in favour of Turner. Maybe do your homework next time. If you are interested, I suggest you listen to this long, definitely infuriating, but very insightful video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZakGtYooyPY
@Gypsy_x "Second, it doesn't matter if I am a lawyer, necessarily."
Sounds like I hit a soft spot. People usually don't become lawyers in their 20s. Let me guess, you have 0 experience, and you are currently unemployed, or are a paper pusher in some court, with a useless diploma from some backwater university.
" I WOULD argue it makes me know more than YOU, though."
Well, you demonstrated you don't know the difference between rape and sexual assault, so there's that...
"Have you dated?" Yes.
"Have you spoken to many women?" Yes.
"Maybe you should ask the women you have in your life about their experiences." I have, and I commonly do. I am a naturally inquisitive person.
"Maybe that will make you feel some compassion."
I feel compassion, I am not a psychopath. I just put JUSTICE before EMOTIONS. Just because someone FEELS they were wronged does not mean they necessarily were.
@Gypsy_x
"Mate, in literally every crime, there are some people wrongly accused."
Oh, yeah. There are. And you know who is supposed to make sure these wrongly accused people don't suffer irreparable consequences due to these false allegations? That's right. The justice system.
"Should we stop believing all witnesses, or only women in rape cases?"
Have I said that? No. I said we should rely on FACTUAL, HARD EVIDENCE when dealing with any crime, and that includes sexual crimes.
Going back to the Brock Turner case, I am sort of on fire, so let me tell you something.
The victim's testimony essentially is "I went to a party with my little sister, I drank a lot, I got really drunk, and the next thing I remember, I was raped".
Now, have you been blackout drunk? I have. And I can tell you, this testimony is as false as it gets. Let me tell you why.
[continued]
@Gypsy_x
She claims that she was blackout drunk BEFORE she even met Turner, or at least agreed to go home to her house with him.
Now, I don't know the exact timeline ofwhat happened. What I DO know is this: When you are blackout drunk, you DON'T meet people, agree to go home with them, and walk several hundred meters. So unless you somehow believe that Brock Turner picked up an unconscious corpse of a woman, carried her several hundred, if not thousands of meters away, just to have non-consensual sex with her - which let's be fair, is rather illogical -, you have to acknowledge that she was by NO MEANS blackout drunk BEFORE meeting Turner. So her testimony is flawed from a purely biological perspective. I'd need an exact timeline, and her exact bodyweigt to determine how much alcohol she would have to have drunk - but the factis that she claimed to have drunk shots. Shots knock you out fast, and leave jsut as fast. [continued]
@Gypsy_x There was at least a 2 hour gap between her waking up surrounded by cops, and Turner allegedly raping her.
I have been blackout drunk enough times to know that you simply can only get knocked out for 2 hours from a couple of shots if you don't have alcohol poisoning, in which case, you'd be sleeping for at least 7 or 8 hours afterwards, as your body processes the poisoning. So she must have drunk a moderate amount of alcohol, since she actually woke up pretty soon. But if she blacked out waaaay before she even MET Turner, that would put her comatose state BEFORE their intercourse, and she'd wake up AROUND THE TIME she was allegedly assaulted.
It's messy, and inconsistent with basic human biology.
But there is an explanation that would put all pieces of the puzzle at pleace - if she got drunk a good 45-60 minutes later, DURING she was talking to Turner, that would put her blackout period EXACTLY at the point where Turner initiated sexual advances.
@Gypsy_x BUT that would mean she AGREED to spend the night with Turner at least in SOME quality. Now, again, she has a boyfriend. Why would she lie about when she blacked out? Because that means she cheated on her boyfriend.
And guess what? Her boyfriend actually called her several times during the evening - and she picked up the phone. And she was no longer at the party.
How do you pick up a phone and talk at least audibly if you are blacked out?
In other words - the "victim" made a false testimony.
@Gypsy_x
I am not arguing if he was found guilty by the jury - of course he was. That can still be a false conviction.
What I am saying is that his sentence was minimized BECAUSE the judge saw that the case was shady.
@Benedek38 I'm Australian. Law degrees are bachelors (undergraduates) here. I began university when I was 17. I did some post grad, and was admitted a few years ago. I am a gifted student.
"Rape" is not a term used in Australian criminal codes. We specify sexual assaults by the specific act.
And we will have to disagree on our interpretation of the Turner case. Seeing as we hold such low opinions of each other, there is no point in continuing. All the best.
@Benedek38 also, if the judge made a personal judgment that went against the jury's verdict - that is unethical and against his position. He does NOT have the jurisdiction to l let his own opinion on the case affect the sentence. That is NOT his job.
@Gypsy_x Don't mistake me for this guy, I'm not ever going to defend Brock Turner. I'm just saying, you can't defend the opinion owner's argument "Name the women who are proven frauds. Name the men who were falsely accused. It's easy not to be charged with rape, just don't rape anyone." You were on this opinion because you started to defend her argument, which was a bullshit argument.
@Maxemeister specific names aren't necessary, but sources for statistics would be nice.
@Gypsy_x FBI cites 2-8% of rape cases were false accusations. Once again, addressed in the video. Even if it were 0.5%, that still provides enough cause to be at least wary of it
@Maxemeister but that is so minor? I don't understand why that is such a big deal to people?
@Gypsy_x?
What?
That's like saying 5% of Americans got some form of cancer in the US in 2012 but that's not that many Americans so we shouldn't treat it.
No, for true justice to occur, you need to address it all. If it's a REAL rape accusation, as in the accuser was actually raped by the accused, then the justice system deals with it accordingly.
The Justice System doesn't operate on probability, it operates on evidence. Or at least it does in America, I don't know how it operates in Australia
@Maxemeister but thats the problem with just giving a percentage. Of those false accusations, were the accusers punished? How? What sentences did they receive?
@Gypsy_x?
What do you want from me, a manifesto?
It is a minority of rape accusations that turn out to be false, but if just a handful prove to be false, that means that you can't be sure you're not damning a person if you just blindly believe an accuser. Trying to minimize the reality of false accusations would defeat the entire point of justice in the case of rape. The entire reason why there IS a trial in the first place is because false accusations CAN happen! And they do!
The burden isn't on me to provide the evidence, the burden is on you to provide evidence that no one is ever falsely accused, because making such an assumption puts the burden of evidence upon you. Sure, in a world, it's POSSIBLE that all people accused of rape are perfectly guilty, no question about it, but this isn't that world.
Now, as I've said, the majority (over 90%) of rape accusations turn out to be true/traumatic mistake (mostly true.) 5%, however, knowingly framed someone for rape.
@Maxemeister I'm not literally asking you for the info, I'm merely stating that without that info its silly to hold such vehement opinions
@Gypsy_x?
So you're saying I'm foolish for not having the very exact data you've requested now, despite it being a moot point, when it comes to justice being served?
Goddamn, you are a terrible lawyer.
You have zero respect for serving justice!
@Maxemeister no, I was saying we all are foolish for drawing fervent opinions on incomplete information. I'm humble enough to include myself in that 😉
@Benedek38 the problem is that everyone has a different idea of what justice is
@Gypsy_x
"the problem is that everyone has a different idea of what justice is"
But generally every sane person agrees that we shouldn't punish innocent people, correct? Which is exactly what you advocated for.
@Benedek38 no, it isn't. I was saying that there is ALWAYS a margin of error. And a 5% rate of false accusations (which may or may not have led to the prosecution of the liar, but we don't know) is NOT a valid reason to invalidate or question the accusations of millions of men and women who have been raped or assaulted. The victim should not be treated as though they are a liar.
@Gypsy_x
"I was saying that there is ALWAYS a margin of error."
And we should strive to MINIMIZE this margin of error, do you agree?
"And a 5% rate of false accusations (which may or may not have led to the prosecution of the liar, but we don't know) is NOT a valid reason to invalidate or question the accusations of millions of men and women who have been raped or assaulted."
Nobody is invalidating anything - we are advocating for following standard procedure. The whole Metoo movement is the one that wants to dodge standards procedure, and publicly condemn the defendants even before they can appear in court - which inevitably influences both their public perception, and the way the jury will look at them.
The movement almost inevitably increases false conviction rates - in other words, it is undesirable.
@Benedek38 in todays world of social media, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a case that is uninfluenced by the media. I have seen various cases been thrown out, and even jurors being kicked off cases, because of that. So what do you propose? How do you ACTUALLY deal with it? What is your solution?
@Gypsy_x And need I reming you - 2-10% false accusation rate - but 10% overall conviction rate. That means out of 1 million cases, only 100000 can be proven to be true - and 20000-100000 cases are verifianly false accusations. That means that for every person convicted, there is one that proves to be verifianly innocent, and there is one accuser who proves to be a dirty liar. So right now, we have about as many verifiably lying victims, as there are verifiably guilty defendants. That's far more significant than what you portray it to be.
" The victim should not be treated as though they are a liar. "
That's the role of the court - to question the validity of everyone involved. Victim included. Don't use factual and emotional manipulation. Again, you are a shitty lawyer.
@Benedek38 sigh. Its obvious you have never actually been in a courtroom and do not understand the complexities within a trial. I'm done talking with you.
@Gypsy_x
" in todays world of social media, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a case that is uninfluenced by the media. "
False. You have to pull a bag on the face of the accused, you have to lock the media out of the courtroom, and you have to punish people who leak information with prison.
It worked when they framed Tommy Robinson, so why can't it work otherwise?
"I have seen various cases been thrown out, and even jurors being kicked off cases, because of that."
And I am glad you did. It means at least SOMEONE is doing their job fine.
" So what do you propose? How do you ACTUALLY deal with it? What is your solution? "
As I said.
Anonymous trials, with zero media coverage. Punish journalists who leak info before the verdict is made with heavy fines, or if necessary, prison.
@Gypsy_x @Benedek38 Okay so this conversation/argument/whatever this is has been going on for a while now, thinking it's time to stop. I'm muting this question lmao
not especially. since false accusations occur rather rarely (like less than 6% of the time).
i mean it's always good to be cautious but it seems to me that saying you are afraid to approach someone and say "hi" is absurd
Western women are a liability period end of don't work with them don't live with them don't talk to the. Nothing less then having nothing to do when then is the only safe option society will go extinct but so what. All of takes is one a accusation and your life is flushed down the toilet. They are simply not worth it. The gender war will continue until this society is destroyed and then feminists will be happy. It will descent into a civil war.
I think its a slight exaggeration but unfortunately its not too far away from reality. So yes, i think he does have a point.
Yeah. I empathize with him. There are true predators out there... and there are also trigger-happy people out there. And both are fucking it up for people who just want to date.
The problem is he cares too much about what anyone thinks. He’s got enough money to last a lifetime. If this is what he has to say than why not just do what you want to do? For his work? I’d understand that. But then don’t complain about how you have an image to keep.
So he’s more in love with the money he makes than the actual girl he’d chase.
Which makes him a scumbag in my opinion. Just like me lmao.
If he's afraid he doesn't know how to a woo a woman without harassing her, then he probably should stay out of the dating pool until he figures it out.
You're wrong. Henry Cavill never said; that "he doesn't know how to a woo a woman without harassing her."
Don't twist his words into something that they're not. What said is that he believes that woman should be wooed and chased; which means that he believes that men should be the ones to make the first move and be the ones to put in the effort to charm a woman into falling for for the man. That's what he meant. Which is why he calls himself "old fashion." What his afraid of is the type of woman who get's easily offended when a guy just asks her out on a date with him or if she get's offended if he uses a pick line on her. Because there are women like that, and that's what his afraid of running into.
This is a reality but mostly for celebs because there are a lot of women who will take advantage of you for your money, call you a rapist just to win that load.
I don't know if I'm correct but I think it was ray rice who punched his girl friend so hard she passed out... they went to court all things fixed... but she still married him.
I do think the whole political correctness thing has everyone on edge. Its not so much trial but jury now as trial by media..
No, it's unfortunate that he is scrutinized because he is a celebrity but if a man should be afraid to approach a women than we should all just kill ourselves now.
My friend got pepper sprayed once
I looked at a girl yesterday for 10 secs. I hope I didn't sexually harassed her by just looking at her. Should I post about it online and apologize to that person in hope that she will get to know about my post?
Well... If someone as handsome as him is worried about being accused of being indecent, the rest of us have no chance lol.
Really? Women open up about sexual harassment and guys change their message into: don’t approach women, or they’ll sue you. Wtf is wrong with the world
You're exactly right. Men are threatened.
look at what happened to aziz ansari.
What his afraid of is running into the type of woman who get's easily offended when a guy just asks her out on a date with him or if she get's easily offended if he uses a pick line on her. Because there are women like that, and that's what his afraid of running into.
Asking a woman out on a date or using a pick up line on her isn't called "sexual harassment."
Honey please, he's extremely talented and handsome guy I don't think he'll run into that issue very often.
I understand where he's coming from, it's just that the me too movement and feminist get a lot media attention that pushed men into believing that approaching a woman is some how evil now. The truth is most women enjoy being approached by men and aren't screaming rape as a man looks their way or if they are not interested. Most of time when women aren't interested, we kindly reject and say no thank you. Don't let the media make you think women are running to police every second a guy talks to them just these topics get plenty of news coverage.
It would be fair to say that Henry Cavill might receive less suspicion if he didn't go after 19yr olds at 33 years of age. He might also factor that into his argument.
@General_Titipong Are you his momma? What do you care?
@General_Titipong You could except you're the one jumping on my opinion and not the other way around. Feel free to move along.
Ironic how I'm listening to the Man of Steel score as I pass by this question xD
The thing is, he's a successful and attractive man. If he continuously tries to impress a woman or ask her out he's called "cute" or "persistant". If he was a short, fat and bald man and did the exact same thing he'd be labelled "a freak" "potential rapist" or "creepy". It's nice to see that someone with status is trying to address this problem but it's most likely never going to be an issue for him.
I understand the hesitation but not all women are stupid like that.
Many are. And they're making all of you look bad.
Which is why I understand his hesitation. But no woman is making me look bad. You see I handle myself in a way that makes people comfortable with me. If a guy is stand offish with me because other woman do stupid stuff, it won't be long before he see's I'm the real deal. And if it keeps him from approaching me then unfortunately he missed out. If I was single that is. My point is no one will ever make me look bad but me. So far I've done good not doing that.
Like one of the other commenters said dear Superman you suck at explaining this, but I get it, understand it... And well let's be honest ladies that are afraid to approach men shy or whatever some man find the vagina horrifying. 😆😆😆
Yes considering just looking at the opposite sex the wrong way will lead to being called a rapist or a sexual harasser.
Glad to see the results support my opinion lol
As a celebrity I agree with him. he's gotta be careful. If he was just a regular every day guy I'd say he had nothing to worry about but since so many chicks out here are money hungry I'd hit up an ex
There is a huge difference between picking up on women/flirting, and grabbing or making inappropriate comments. So no the me too movement does not discourage men to pick up on women.
Sounds like he doesn't know how to actually "woo" a woman.
The thing is, you've probably experienced something like this before, if a person tries to be friendly, 5 people may enjoy the person while the 6th doesn't.
@cavmanier your point?
He woos some while others think he's a rapist or whatever bad thing.
@cavmanier woos very little
It probably depends on the country a lot.
Here in Romania I never had any problems like that.
Totally. Even in the US, there are areas of the country where you're able to speak differently to women. Like out on the west coast, you're not even allowed to say "Hi" to a woman unless you already know her and if you do talk to her, you have to make it very clear that you aren't hitting on her. But if you go to the southern US states, it's different. Like I remember being in south Alabama at a gas station and the attendant was struggling with the cash register. She apologized for taking to long and I said "It's ok, I'm in no hurry. Besides, you're nice to look at." She said "Why, thank you!" I would NEVER even consider saying anything like that to a California woman.
Wow, that's so messed up.
You can be an asshole even when you don't hit on her anyway.
I've never actually met one of those crazy women that think you're sexually assaulting them if you give them a compliment.
Now I know where I can find them, and where to never visit.
Shit if I was an adult and this guy approached me I wouldn't have a problem with it 😂😂
I think guys like this blow it way out of proportion. If you're not creepy about it you won't get into any bother.
I don't know who that is and it sounds hyperbolic so I'm just gonna go ahead and disregard this now
I get it but he sounded like every women is out to get him, there plenty of women love a chase. I don't think he deserved all the hate
But one can never know who likes the chase and who's gonna call you a rapist.
The MRAs and MGTOWs have been beating the drum on this issue for almost a decade now. A lot of dudes are finally waking up to how fucked everything is. There is too much risk and not enough reward.
He may have blown it out of proportion a bit but I do agree
I honestly find it incredibly sad that girls would attack a guy simply for approaching them. It doesn't make sense to me...
He’s an idiot. Lmao. This is good to control guy’s idiocy. These days guys have turned into wild animals and it’s hard to take them seriously anymore.
What he meant by girls should wooed and chased; means that he believes that men should be the ones to make the first move and be the ones to put in the effort to charm a woman into falling for the man. That's what he meant. Which is why he calls himself "old fashion." What his afraid of is the type of woman who get's easily offended when a guy just asks her out on a date with him or if she get's easily offended if he uses a pick line on her. Because there are women like that, and that's what his afraid of running into.
You idiotically believing that it controls "guys' idiocy." Shows how small your intelligence is. You're probably the same type of moron who believes that it's fine for innocent men are having false accusations thrown at them. Pathetic.
@Littleinfamous I'm for capital punishment. Doesn't make me a murder or mean I'm thinking of murdering someone.
Think he's exaggerating by saying he could be accused of being a rapist but being accused of sexual harassment is a possibility
Yeah, PC culture has made it near impossible to rely on instinct and perception alone when approaching anybody
I can understand where he’s coming from being a public figure and all. Maybe he had a poor choice of words to some who disagreed with him, but I do think he has somewhat of a valid concern.
I'm guessing he's scared of being accused like Aziz Ansari. If I were famous I'd be scared of that.
A guy like that is better off getting expensive escorts, they wanna keep things hush hush too
I agree 100%, and I'm not even famous. The dating scene, even society is almost intolerable.
I think it's close to yes, but not quite, because he's definitely overstating it. So no vote.
Dear Henry. When a women says No you simple stop with your chase. Simple as that. Elsewhere you have nothing to worry about
He probably doesn't stop and that's why he's worried.
He seems like a old fashioned guy so I think he is very respectful but tries to woo a girl. He is very handsome so I would not be surprised if women chase him too
Innocent men aren't worried about this kind of thing.
147 say otherwise because they agreed on his Statement that they are too worried to approach women nowadays
Great! More women for me, I've never have a complaint of no permission.
That's great. Usually if you approach friendly a women she won't turn you down
He is the hottest thing on earth, I don't care what he is talking about.
It's rather ironic how women complain about such blatantly objectifying comments from men in regards to attractive actresses and yet here women do the exact same thing.
Well put Sir, well put indeed.
@ThisDudeHere So true!
@ThisDudeHere @Sreedeep @admles
My dear Einsteins, have you ever heard of trolling?
>Realizes that she's been called out for something
>Oh... um... TROLLING! Don't you see?
@ThisDudeHere Actually I was trolling from the first moment, you are the one who took it seriously lol
Nice story though
But of course
@ThisDudeHere Lol give me on valid reason why I would change my opinion just because 3 weird gaggers 'called out' my comment?
Exaclty, there is none.
lol and the same way I have no reason to change mine
@ThisDudeHere Lol I didn't call you out for lying babydoll, you did.
I know.
@ThisDudeHere Thank you for confirming my point.
I don't see how but whatever.
So long as you accept that a woman can say "not interested," and you then leave her alone, there's nothing wrong with chasing her.
Just treat a lady like a human being rather than a sex object created solely for your pleasure. It's not all that difficult.
The public/society, a major culprit in all situations.
At my school a women lied about being assaulted by a random man, to get out of an exam. She admit she lied when questioned by police when interviewed for a second time. It's quite scary being a man sometimes, having your life ruined for nothing.
this ridiculous, what planet are these guys living on where they're going to be falsely accused of rape just for saying "hello"
He's a whiny bitch and a bro who is butthurt that his slimeball tactics won't get him a free feel-cop or easily coerce out some pussy, anymore.
Men don't have to chase the woman and if a woman won't let any man chase her and not chase any herself she'll notice she's doing something wrong.
I have a hard time believing he would be pegged as a rapist just for pursuing a woman.
He should stick to his ex girlfriend if he's too afraid that his actions will be complained about.
I can't believe you wrote this much. Do you even know who Armie Hammer is?
The guy sounds like a pathetic douche in my opinion
I agree, and especially from his point of view of being a celebrity.
He is damn right and for all the ladies against him girls that's Henry Cavill
As someone who got called pervert for complimenting a hairstyle I totaly understand him
I don't blame him.
why is it that when a woman is afraid of approaching or being with a man, she's comforted by everyone and people agree with her reasoning as to why she won't approach or is afraid of a man. But here comes the man voicing why he's afraid to approach women and talk to them and he gets a ton of shit for it just because he's a man. Men can be afraid too! stop telling them to man up! #NotJustWomen #MenCanBeAfraid
@MelaniDoll Thank you for your stance. You're smarter than all these other women that are older than you. So many ignorant women on here. They're all ready to side with other women but then mock men. Sick of it.
@InTimoreDei RIGHT! i'm just sick and tired!
Yes I agree with him in this current climate.
I agree. Not every guy who approaches a girl is a rapist
That's foolish because most women probably wouldn't complain about being raped by superman.
That's not funny