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I'm not Republican, but this is what irks me about the Democrats (and yes, both sides do this). The Democrats tout they are the progressive lot. That they are for the people, the little man/woman, but when the candidate they want has allegations, they go silent. Big loud celebrities want to see the results of the investigation first, which I do think is true in all accusation cases, but they will go on to crucify the republicans the moment something hits the news. One of the women, a former aide, straight up says he penetrates her with his fingers without consent. True or not, that should have been investigated day one. Biden, and most progressive and liberal stances in 2018 were all about "Believe women," point blank. The other day, on MSNBC I believe, here in 2020, he says to take "the woman’s claims seriously when she steps forward — and then vet it, look into it.” And those pundits are all nodding their head. It's a hypocritical shit-show. What the DNC SHOULD do, is ask him to step down until the investigation is complete. Let another candidate take his place for the time being and do what needs to be done. If the dems were true to that, I think a lot more people would respect that decision. I honestly believe most people who were going to vote for Biden would still jump on the DNC because most people are only voting for him because "he is better than Trump." I don't know a single person in this convo (besides my mother) who would vote for Trump if it was Bernie, Yang, or any of the other canditates.41
First off, there is FAR more evidence for Tara Reade than ANY of the Kavanaugh accusers! Second Joe Biden has a history of this behavior:
The media and his fellow democrats have been covering for him for decades! When the Kavanaugh accusers were out the democrats and the media screamed that we need to "beleive all women" "Why would a woman lie" and men who are accused of sexual assault "have no presumtion of innocence". When a democrat is accused be it;https://www.youtube.com/embed/UXA--dj2-CY
Joe Biden, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Bobby Scott, Ruben Kiuhen, etc., THOSE women are making it up, its only when they accuse men that are NOT democrats! There hasn't even been and FBI investigation into this! Democrats wanted to destroy the presumtion of innocence to get Kavanaugh, but now they want to apply it exclusively to democrats.
Also the media not only covered for Creepy Joe Biden's hands they covered for his STICKY FINGERS as well!
The Prosecutor Biden brags about getting fired after threatening withdrawl of US funds was investigating Burisma holdings and its board for corruption. His Son Hunter Biden was on that board.https://www.youtube.com/embed/4Pjs7uoOkag
Hypocracy like this is why I left the democrat party #walkaway42
I realize this was not Trump accusing him, but here we go, another case of "timing". Do I have a moment's doubt that he is above telling his hit squad to find someone to do this? Not for a nanosecond. He did it with an entire other country.
Not a single Republican believed Christine Blasey Ford about Kavanaugh, and she blew up her life to tell the story. Two more accusers came forward too, no effect. Then Kavanaugh actually LIES during his deposition, and still gets confirmed. Do I believe the accusation of "assault". I've no clue, and neither does anyone else except the parties involved. Do I think he's a touchy-feely guy, sure. Did he make some women around him uncomfortable? No doubt. Is this political? 100 fucking %.
How many women do you think could come forward and say the Presidouche make them uncomfortable, or harassed them? An unknown number, but like a large one. We're talking about a guy who doesn't respect the privacy of a woman's dressing room, just because he owns the right to the pageant's name. Or jokes about how unattractive certain female leaders of other countries are. This is nothing but the same bullshit, sway the mob, emotional vote getting crap. I've seen it a hundred times, and come to expect it.10
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Establishment democrats are such hypocrites, had Biden been a republican or a progressive, everyone would be right their in support of his accuser and would be calling for him to drop out, but since he's a establishment Democrat, were appose to automatically just assume his accuser is lying and and move along like nothing ever happened.0
I'm not really certain that he did or didn't do it, though it definitely sounds like something he'd do, and unlike with the Kavanaugh case, there's considerably more evidence and a less fragmented collection of accounts from colleagues of the time. Plus it actually fits his pattern of behavior, while Kavanaugh had a pretty clean slate.
So regardless of whether he did it or not, there's definitely a scandal in how much less attention has been given to this versus the Kavanaugh case (gross media bias and hypocritical feminists, shocking...)
The longer Biden is in the spotlight, the more I wonder why the hell the Dems thought making him run for president was a good idea. Most of us probably remember how before Obama's first year was even over, Biden had been pretty much sidelined to keep him from saying weird and dumb sh*t in interviews. They've very much dug themselves into a hole here, because now they have to defend his gaffes, his abysmal record, and now a sexual assault accusation all while standing on the same platforms as the MeToo and BelieveWomen movements.30
I don't know if he did it, but I am astounded by the hypocrisy of most of the Left. Kavanagh was accused by a political opponent more than 30 years after the alleged incident, and even the accuser's best friend who was allegedly present said she had no recollection of the event. Also, Kavanagh had a literally spotless record with his female clerks. MSM response? Around the clock coverage.
Biden, on the other hand, was accused by a lifelong Democrat and one of his own former staffers. People are on record as saying she told them at the time, and we have a recording of her mother calling Larry King about the subject. Biden also has a long history, backed up by lots of video, of the repeated unwanted touching of women and children. MSM response? CNN removed the Larry King video and Biden went weeks without any reporter asking him about it, until a very friendly interview by Al Sharpton. Onthe Left only Rose McGowan, a couple of Bernie's people, and a few others are honest about the issue.30
For a while I laid off the “creep” accusations on Biden even though I’m a conservative. I thought Biden didn’t intend to make women/girls uncomfortable but he was extremely oblivious about physical boundaries. In his old very loose marbled mind he thought he was just making people feel welcome.
Then came along Tara Reade. Unlike Christine Ford her case has several corroborating witness (with recordings). Also unlike Christine Ford, Reade was actually penetrated. Not saying Ford’s alleged assault is much better. But from a legal standpoint it makes a big difference. Also Biden was a grown ass man in his 50s when this allegedly went down. He was public figure and a politician. Kavanaugh was a teenager.
It’s just amazing how the media and Hollywood have suddenly changed their tune from “believe all women” to “everybody deserves due process” just because Biden’s a Democrat running against Trump. CNN virtually ignored all this until they were forced to report on it.
As much as I don’t like Biden I STILL think he deserves fair due process. But comedic irony is Biden himself doesn’t believe in due process since he agreed with “believe all women”. At least Trump was smart enough to never say something so foolish. Whoops.0
I think it was the same as with Kavanaugh complainers. They all say nothing until someone wants to run for office and then they come out of the woodwork when they smell possible money. It's been over 20 years. There should be a statute of Limitations for such things just like anything else. But some woman making claims doesn't mean they are true. I think if she is able to prove it that is one thing but if she can't she should be tossed in jail for making false charges or crawl back into the woodwork.54
I think it’s political.
The accuser didn’t put down sexual assault or harassment in her original complaint to the senate, nothing about it was brought up for 8 years when he was vp and is only being brought up with less than a year into the race with Biden beating trump on majority of polls.726
There's definitely something creepy about him - not only have I seen pictures and videos of him crossing the line with women, but also with kids and even the way he held a baby was really weird (by the crotch). He didn't even try to hide it all that well when he was touching little girls' hair and whispering in their ears on camera. Sexual assault absolutely would not surprise me. If he can appear so creepy in front of a camera and the rest of the world, goodness knows what he's doing when no one is looking.60
He probably really did it, judging by the Larry King call, Tara Reades friends corroborating her story and the 7 other accusations. He’s at 8 so far compared to Trump’s 21, talk about having to choose the lesser of two evils!
His and Pelosi’s double standard has gutted the #metoo movement they have tried to use in the past to gain votes which just reeks of hypocrisy. I think this is going to sink the Biden boat to be honest, he basically said “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” on msnbc the other day. Seems hauntingly familiar.10
Here are videos from left-leaning news channels - no Fox News here. And this is just the tip of the iceberg - and only what you see publicly. Try to imagine what has gone on when there were no cameras rolling!https://www.youtube.com/embed/w3gGncZMCKQhttps://www.youtube.com/embed/W1V_AhwVahUhttps://www.youtube.com/embed/ZAymXlGSplU10
I heard stories about Biden for years. There are stories from his own Secret Service detail as well as house keepers. And we've all seen how he acts around women and little girls in public. Oh, and talking about how children love to brush the long, blond hair on his legs. WTF? Where, on Epstein's Pedo Island? The guy is a perv.
I have no doubt that Tara Reade is telling the truth. She seems to have credible evidence.
What's ironic is, Democrats believed Blasey Ford based merely on her word alone. Yet they now attack Reade. Hypocrites.0
I think it needs to be properly investigated. Unfortunately no records of her complaint seem to survive.
Ultimately, it doesn't matter if it is true. Trump was accused of sexual assault by 30 different women and he freely confessed in great detail to doing this frequently. His personal "news" agency accused all 30 women and Trump himself of lying about these charges. They lost all right to say that those 30 accusers of their protege are liars but the one who accuses a Democrat is the lone exception.
All Trump supporter have lost the right to cry out about this accusation. You people LOVE sexual assaulters!4
There's a lot of pics of him being overly touchy.
The probability of any male, especially one with some new found power on a hormonal rage and seeing a very attractive woman... to make an aggressive move is > 30%.
I saw a witness state he wasn't there.
I'm on the side of true, but don't think it matters or is a differentiator.
Democrats hate Trump and will vote for Biden if his VP has red ears and a pitch fork.
Republicans can't stand him because he's a Democrat
The people in the middle... we shall find out if there are any left.
Honestly, I hope they both survive. This virus is still floating around... how do you do all that exposure and campaign without catching a virus... he gonna wear a mask for 6 months?0
All I can say is, we are living in times where politics has become very nasty.
This race is likely to be a nasty one. The same way things have transpired in the UK.
I don't know whether those are lies or not but by the time people begin to accept it if it is just lies, it will be too late.
We are living in a time of populist politics.
In America politics will become sane again once Trump has left the white house. Whether it be after 4 years or 8years.
This kind of politics is happening almost every why now.
Over here in Britain, things have been nasty for almost 10 years.
All the good political leaders have been attacked ruthlessly.
The same looks like is happening in the US now. It is no longer politics of reason but that of populism2
He was vetted by Obama before he became VP and nothing came up. Obama wouldn't have hired him if sexual assault had even the slightest possibility of ruining the image of his presidency.128
Poor old Joe can't remember and falls asleep when he tries. Seriously from the outside looking in, the Democrats seem to seriously hate Trump then choose the worst candidate to go against him.
At which point do the Democratic voters question their leadership? It is baffling to me, they don't seem to want the Presidency, they would rather vent and channel anger in protest.
I don't know about this rape situation but I know a lame duck when I see one. Trump will pluck him bald, cook and eat him live on air lol.10
He certainly does not feel like the kind of guy who would but then again, this as more accepted when he was younger. I am not saying it is right, I am just saying it was more prevalent and women didn't speak up because it just was. Have you noticed that there are a lot of cases in the media now, and that most of those men are older, most probably around the same age group as Bill Crosby. He is another one that I would not have thought so.36
If they didn't speak up when it happened it is hard to believe someone who comes out about it 20 years later when they are running for office. Maybe she was hoping to get shush up money or some monetary gain from it - her 15 minutes of fame so to speak.34
Congratulations america, again you take the sour bait that the right wing waves. Progressives rip each other apart rather than stand up to non-progressives.
How many sexual assault and harrassment cases does trump have stacked against him, or are too afraid to come forward? which is the worst.
Do I think the ideal is that the leader of america should be utterly unimpeachable? Absolutely. Does the right wing give a single shit about people in power being rapists? No. they just want to have their person in power.
So replace biden, or suck it up, either way vote for the democrats. The alternative is worse, and not voting is giving assent to the other option.
Vote for either the best if there is one, or the lesser evil if there isn't a best.1
Guys, he's old. Yeah, he ''touched'' women, but what the fuck? I touch guys' shoulders when I give 'em shoulder taps, I do that with female friends too. Yeah, he's placing hands on women's shoulders, but people, if I could sue every single person that has done something of the sort to me, I would enjoying life in California, in a beach house, without having to work on any point in my life.
I don't believe he's ''sexually assaulting women'', though that phrase is getting so overused it starts to lose all meaning by now. Neil DeGrasse Tyson was accused of sexual misconduct when a woman showed her tattoo of the Solar System (on her arm), and Neil was looking for Pluto (he checked up to the collar bone).0
I don’t know if he was accused or not and by who, but I can believe it. Joe Biden was actually involved in the Anita Hill case in 1991, where he tried to downplay her sexual harassment at hands of current Supreme Court judge, Clarence Thomas. Fuck these men, on God.23
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Joe Biden in my eyes is a predator. In all of the conferences I have watched he is clinging to someone and refusing to let go despite their attempts to get out of his grip; whether it be children or women in general. He sees how uncomfortable they are and he does not care. He continues to touch them, grab them, hold them against his body, kiss their necks or in the bottom left picture, cover your mouth and whisper in your ear. It's all appropriate and quite frankly, repulsive. Maybe he has not gone to the extreme of acting on his obvious desires but that does not make him any less dangerous than any other predator out there. I can't remember the exact time frame but back last year some time he was accused of having nonconsensual sexual contact with a girl who, I believe, was around 15 or 16. His pose of followers actually had the nerve to make a comment about how Joe Biden could possibly have dementia or some sort of memory problem which leads him to believe that this sort of behavior is okay. They chalked it up to him basically just having boundary issues. Sweeping all of it under the rug and making out like since they didn't believe he has the mental capacity to stray from this behavior that he should not be held accountable for how it has made others feel. And he got away with it. In my opinion, if this was truly because he didn't have the mental capacity to know right from wrong, he would be doing this to older men as well. But instead he sticks to little girls, little boys, young females and older females. He knows what he is doing wrong. He is a disgusting human being.
you must hate trump too
@John_Doesnt Based on your response you must think him groping women inappropriately is alright.
@John_Doesnt Because your response should be nothing more than agreeing with him, the pictures prove it all buddy. Wake up.
@mattl338 the pictures prove trump gropes women too. So you must hate them both
@John_Doesnt Nope, never happened, send links for pictures of proof or you have nothing to back up your claims. Joe Biden has been seen on tape groping women and being a predator towards kids, Trump back in the early 2000s might have been all talk, but Biden puts it into action. Here's some proof:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ-YjGmpO4Q (Paul Joseph Watson explains and goes over every clip of him groping girls)
All of these is Joe Biden groping girls and being a massive creep. There has not been one video that I know of or one picture where Trump groped anyone besides his wife, if anything they are all allegations made up so the left can get Trump out of office like they have been for years since he was elected. Now I must say again, wake. Up.
Also considering Joe Biden is a Democrat he is of course being defended by them and they are making excuses of all of the pictures and video proof of his inappropriate behavior.
If the roles were reversed and it was Trump and not Biden, the Democrats would go for Trump's throat and everyone would be banding together to call for yet another impeachment. Nobody was going for Biden's throat during this, certainly not anyone from his own party, if anything they made excuses for his behavior and nobody batted an eye besides people who are not corrupted by politics.
@mattl338 that was a long stupid rant, but here is a list of the women who have accused trump of sexual harassment. www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12
@John_Doesnt You are an idiot. There was no proof in that entire article besides accusations. "Accused" is the keyword here, meaning NO PROOF. That article is absolutely useless and it provides no proof besides accusations. I said "send links for pictures of proof" I didn't say send links for anything on Trump being accused, I am being very precise with my words here. If you think an article with nothing but allegations, interviews, and everyone's "he did this" hearsay gives any kind of proof that Trump did do something, you are naive and asinine. Find pictures, videos, or ACTUAL proof meaning not hearsay or accusations and actual proof showing that he did in fact do those things, then we'll talk, but pointless articles filled with hearsay is pointless and proves absolutely nothing.
@mattl338 Biden is being accused as well. It's no different than what Biden is being accused of. You're the idiot because you support trump
@John_Doesnt It’s no longer accusations if it’s ON CAMERA, I just sent you 3 links to him being a creep and touching girls inappropriately and you’ve refused to look at them apparently. Trump was never shown on camera groping or touching anyone inappropriately, there is just accusations. Your idiotic argument of “its no different than what Biden is being accused of” is obsolete because him being a predator was shown on camera, again I sent you 3 links. Never said I supported Trump, if he did the same thing I would be all over that shit too, this is not an argument regardless.
All of what you are saying is hearsay.
Just because Democrats are keeping quiet about Biden’s behavior on camera and are making excuses for him, doesn’t make his behavior any less apparent and obvious. Take a long look at those videos and stop denying what is on camera.
@mattl338 trump is on camera saying "grab em by the pussy".
@John_Doesnt there is a difference between men saying "grab me by the pussy" and actually grabbing someone by the pussy. Which Biden has done. So your argument is irrelevant.
Trump has been accused by multiple women. he's also been on tv groping his daughter
@John_Doesnt I agree with Destiny. There IS a big difference between saying something and actually doing it. You people take that “grab them by the pussy” wayyy too seriously considering he never actually grabbed anyone by the pussy except maybe his wife in private.
Actions speak louder than words, and some guys mess around with other guys when talking about dirty things with women, it doesn’t mean they will actually do it. Some guys do that but not all, certainly not me.
I told you yesterday that being accused means nothing without proof, and it is not an argument. Stop using “he was accused” as an argument. I already told you him being accused doesn’t have any weight and I told you to send pictures or videos before making claims, which you are clearly too impotent to do and you’re going to continue to make bullshit claims with no proof.
If you are that naive to believe any accusations laid out against someone by women with no proof then you are a simp and apart of the problem with guys being scared to do anything affectionate with a girl they care about without being accused of sexual assault. Ivanka is Trumps daughter, the children Biden was groping were not his and even if they were he should have not groped them the way he did AT ALL and the father shouldn’t have stuck up for Biden. The women he groped as well were not married to him so that ALSO means nothing in comparison.
Trump was not groping his daughter he kisses her cheek and pulls her close and they’re affectionate with each other. He wasn’t touching her boobs or butt or being inappropriate. ITS HIS DAUGHTER I think he’s allowed to kiss his daughter on the cheek and be affectionate with her as long as he isn’t groping her in inappropriate areas.
@John_Doesnt Again you have no weight to prove that Trump did anything inappropriate with ANYONE thus far, when I showed you 3 videos showing Biden’s behavior. You are all words, and no proof and you are very petty by spreading the “he did this and he did that” but with no proof. Again all of what you’ve said thus far is nothing more than hearsay.
@mattl338 here's phone records of trump sexually assaulting a child before wipping his ass with the bible abcnews.go.com/.../story?id=66509771
First of all, in the video attached to the article they never showed any “irrefutable phone recordings” all they said was “she said Trump did this” and he denied it” and that was it. There were no phone recordings shown in that article at all and it was all “Trump was accused of sexual assault” and Trump denied it saying that’s not who he is and how he was raised. THAT’S IT! LITERALLY!
Second of all, you are a liar in the purest form, this article never talked about him sexually assaulting a child anywhere or wiping his ass with the bible. Unless the “wiping his ass with the bible” was a metaphor then you are a fucking liar who’s so impotent at finding proof that its actually laughable at this point and I’m starting to think you are either nothing but an attention seeking troll or a fucking idiot who has no idea what he’s talking about and just hates Trump no matter what regardless of what facts are in front of your face.
You are incredibly petty and pathetic, I read the article and listened to the video attached to it and those “phone records” were never shown ANYWHERE, so what you sent was nothing but bullshit allegations!
You are just pulling articles out of your ass that are nothing but hearsay and allegations that carry no weight and say a bunch hyperbolic nonsense regardless if it’s true or not.
I will say this once more and I am not saying it again. Accusations mean nothing without proof. What you sent was not proof at all and it was all hearsay.
If you think articles that have the title of “phone records provide irrefutable proof of Donald Trump’s sexual assault allegations” and then don’t show any of that “proof” and just go off of quotes from people and don’t actually show any proof and that we should just believe what they said, then you are incredibly naive and asinine. Ever heard of the saying “Condemnation without investigation, is the height of ignorance”? Or maybe “Don’t believe everything you see on the internet”?
@mattl338 you're denying the truth because you're a closet homosexual. I gave you proof of trump molesting a girl over the phone and you won't admit to it.
@John_Doesnt I'm not admitting to something that doesn't exist. There was nothing on that article that talked about him molesting a child and those "irrefutable phone calls" are nowhere to be found.
You are actually an idiot, go back to the article, there are NO PHONE CALLS PRESENT IN THE ARTICLE
@John_Doesnt If there were actual phone calls present in that article that I could listen to, then I would reconsider my point. Once again you are full of shit.
@mattl338 you didn't even read the article. Also, your pictures of Biden were taken in public and none of those women accused him of touching them inappropriately. It's just fake news. Also, Trump has molested all sorts of little girls on camera.
Here's the entire article showing no "proof" or "irrefutable phone calls" filled with accusations that you pulled out of thin air. You are actually so petty
@mattl338 you took a screenshot, good for you. But did you read the article?
Denying me reading the article won’t get you anywhere. Yes I obviously did, it showed no recordings of any phone calls and showed no proof, all it showed was women accusing him. There were no “irrefutable phone calls” on that article at all. You’d see that if you’d simply look at the screenshots.
Also that picture you sent wasn’t even Trump, it was taken completely out of context. You are the only person making a big deal out of it.
Second, I actually did read the article, you are the one that didn't read it, I SCREENSHOTTED THE ENTIRE ARTICLE! Yes no shit they were taken in public, and actually multiple women accused him of inappropriate touching and there's a video where Paul Joseph Watson goes over what was happening in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ-YjGmpO4Q also 8 women accused Biden of sexual misconduct and inappropriate touching. www.dailywire.com/.../8-women-have-accused-joe-biden-of-sexual-misconduct-inappropriate-touching
You are the only one spreading fake news considering that photo ISN'T EVEN TRUMP!
You’re wrong and you know you’re wrong because you’re using out of context images to accuse Trump of anything.
You’re so petty at providing actual facts that it’s sad at this point.
You should work on your fact check skills.
I shouldn't even have to say this but you literally cannot molest someone over the phone. And that video does nothing but comment on a he said she said bullshit game. Do I think Trump is entirely innocent? No.. I dont. But the fact that there has never been any evidence or proof behind Trump actually molesting anyone when there is HARD EVIDENCE behind Biden being extremely inappropriate and groping not only young children but preteen-young adult women as well. Funny how you can sit there and claim that what Biden has openly done, in fucking public even, isn't as bad as Trump simply goes to prove that you enjoy condoning Bidens behavior. And where does your "closet homosexual" comment even come in to play? How does that have any relevance to this topic. If you are going to argue on my post and blow up my notifications at least have some good, solid evidence behind your claims and stop being a cop out by calling names versus stating facts.
@DestinyElizabeth04 Thank you for the backup! Agree with everything you said, couldn’t have said it more simply myself! :D
@mattl338 not a problem at all! Lol
@John_Doesnt Whats NOT to hate about Trumpfus. He's a lying fucktard.