Mark and Patricia McCloskey, personal-injury lawyers at the McCloskey Law Centre, confronted a peaceful crowd of about 500 walking along a private, gated street. The McCloskey's , a white couple, emerged from their marble mansion with firearms. They stated later they were concerned two members of the crowd had firearms on their person and they feared for their lives. Mark McCloskey carried a semiautomatic rifle and appeared to threaten the group. His wife, Patricia pointed a pistol at the crowd, her finger directly on the trigger.
The protesters were simply marching to the residence of St Louis Mayor Lyda Krewson to protest how she had revealed personal information about people that wrote to her in support of police reform.
Video shows the gate being opened and protestors passing through, but at some point the gate was taken down.
It is an interesting case. There are walks by American gun advocates who open carry and carry automatic weapons, to exercise their rights under American gun laws. Anyone who feels threatened or intimidated is not an issue then. Two peaceful protestors with firearms appears to be a threat to these two lawyers thought their five-story house was under threat as they saw the two firearms in the crowd.
"Peaceful protestors" don't break through an iron gate to a private residence, or threaten murder, arson, or to kill a dog. The case against Ken & Karen is pretty much dead especially since they didn't actually shoot anyone or even fire warning shots, and the "protestors" were trespassing on private property to begin with. That said, I think both of them could use an actual shooting class because that trigger discipline and general weapon handling display was cringy to say the least...
Each of them had the right to shoot those protestors because trespassing is a criminal act and it's threat to a person's life and his family and property.
True, but at least then the prosecution would have a smidgeon of a case against them. Brandishing a weapon on your own private property isn't illegal, so this shouldn't even be a debate. Keep in mind even using a weapon in blatant self-defense will still end with police taking you in until they've verified the story. It sucks, but that's how it is and frankly how it has to be most of the time.
Defending their property absolutely but they could've been more peaceful about it. Or not.. I don't know because I've seen some conflicting reports about it but when they came out the protesters apparently started throwing death threats at them.
These “peaceful” protestors broke into a gated community. They were already trespassing. Also given all the rioting, looting and violence BLM has created I can see why are on edge. They have a RIGHT yes a RIGHT to defend themselves and their property if being threatened.
But they sure as hell don’t know to handle weapons properly. I’m all about the 2nd amendment but you better know basic gun safety. You only point a gun at someone or something you plan to kill or destroy. Other than that you always keep the gun POINTED AT THE GROUND. Always. That was stupid and embarrassing.
The protestors broke down the gate and was trespassing. And I'm not sure if it's been confirmed but I heard some of the protestors were armed as well.
So... When you see and hear a big mob marching through your gated community you don't know what's going to happen. Also with recent news about protestors burning down buildings you don't know if these idiots are going to try and burn the houses down.
Calling them peaceful is definitely a stretch. Only bad thing about the couple was how they handled their guns.
They were defending their property. More and more now, what we're going to see and in fact are seeing now is normal white people being attacked, and then the media spinning it as if they're the attackers pulling out their guns for no reason. Only showing the parts which make the white people look bad. And of course liberals, especially white cucks, will join in, throwing them under the bus in order to virtue-signal.
I think I heard a bit about that. From what it seems, those protesters need to bear arms as well. I think Ken and Karen were just paranoid. But as long as they never pulled the trigger, not much harm done. But if the protesters were armed, Ken and Karen types wouldn't be able to get away with anything bad.
They were looking like dangerous idiots. They were never in danger, except from each other (she had her finger on the trigger, and pointed the gun in his direction at least once). They'd have done better to stay inside, or at least just hold the guns pointing at the ground.
It says something that a mayor lives in a gated community. It says they shouldn't be mayor.
I agree she had terrible gun training probably no training. They broke into their gated community. They show the gate has a sign right in front of it that says private property no trespassing. On the side is show a torned down gated door. Days prior in near proximity there was riots and looting. They had legal right to defend their property from potential danger.
they were pointing guns at criminal armed thugs who were threatening them and outnumbered them 500 to 2. So glad Trump was elected. Guarantee if Biden wins, we'll be expected to just stand by and let the mobs burn our houses and kill our dogs as these people were yelling. Dumbass liberals still don't get it. These people were not the aggressors. The mob could have walked right on by, without issuing threats to these people but they chose to, after breaking down a gate and trespassing on private property. These people were simply showing that if the mob came after them they would eat lead. That does not make them Ken, Karen or any other insulting term. It makes them Americans who refuse to bow to the mob.
The protesters broke into a gated community. I wouldn't call that peaceful. They had every right to be afraid in that situation. Though, jumping the gun, so to say, wasn't the smartest thing to do, and the woman there needs to keep her finger of the trigger.
It's a cultural thing, and by cultural I mean gun control and the country you live in. If my neighbour reacted that way in the UK then that would be the last picture of freedom they'd have, but the world has different cultures/laws/weird reactions to gun ownership, so each to your own!
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There's one thing that stands between us and genocide, and that's white people's morality. But there are a lot of folks who seem intent on breaking that wall down. Keep on pushing, though. There's gonna be a lot of calm, guilt-free killing before we as a people realise we've been played. Once they decide that talking and being patient won't cut it, there won't be any point in making excuses or screaming racism. Don't mistake moral conflict as fear or weakness.
The protesters : Destroyed the gate that was holding them out Trespassed on private property Were armed Were taunting and instigating them as well as verbally threatening them
@Cherokeehp How does staying at home sipping some tea solve anything? Bunch of people break into your property and start destroying your home that you've spent 30 years building and they are dumb asses to protect their home? Locking their doors does nothing anyway, they can just torch the place and then they'd die inside their house.
That's right, they didn't. Because they protected it. The protesters absolutely annihilated their front gate and after which they went outside to defend their home.
@jeemm A gate and their house are two different things. Look at all the other homes that were untouched without the owners standing in the yard with guns.
Yes you said it wisely, two different things. So don't compare their house to other houses either. It was clear that the protesters meant to destroy their property, clearly demonstrated by the destruction of their front gate. Of course they would assume their home was in danger of a similar fate. Why would they destroy a gate to walk into a front yard of a house? To have a picnic? No hostile intentions receive hostile reactions.
@jeemm They didn’t destroy a gate to the front yard of the house. They destroyed the gate that was the entrance for the gated community. They were literally just walking in the street and didn’t touch their home.
Oh, are you sure? I've never heard of a gate blocking people from passing from one community to another. From what I've heard it was a gate that was part of their property.
@jeemm Thats literally the “GATED” part of “GATED community”. Those people were being overly dramatic. There was no need to for them to stand in their yard armed, especially with the wife with her finger already on the trigger. These are people’s lives that could’ve been taken with one slip of the finger. Are human lives real worth the cost of a community gate?
I'm not sure I know what "GATED community" means but if people show up in your property yelling and threatening you then you obviously shouldn't treat them with respect. "Ken and Karen" weren't racist or inhumane for protecting what's their's. The worth of human lives are determined by the actions they perform. Depending on the country/state murderers get the death penalty.
If people can preemptively avoid getting murdered because they feel threatened then pointing a gun at someone seems really timid (which they didn't, they only held their guns). If the protesters choose to stay there after they've been warned on someone else's property then why the uproar?
@jeemm Y’all really be out here preaching “All lives matter” but want to pull out a fucking assault rifle and shoot people for the slightest things. People do not deserve to die over breaking a gate and walking down the street, and the fact that I have to explain that is so fucking disappointing.
Also the wife did point her gun and her finger is literally on the fucking trigger in the photos.
What does self-defense have to do with all lives mattering? If they wanted to shoot people they would've done so right after the protesters entered their property. In fact they didn't shoot anyone, because they don't want to be murderers. They only wanted to protect their lives because their lives matter too.
@jeemm Do you know how often innocent people lose their lives because people “fear for their lives” for irrational ass reasons and then do stupid shit like this? If you’re scared then go in the fucking house and lock the damn door. There has literally never been a single moment in my life where I thought there was someone dangerous outside and I thought the best idea would be to go outside. When I see scary shit, I go home and lock my fucking door like any other sane person.
I don't know but if intruding into random people's properties gets you killed then maybe not do it? If a bunch of strangers barged into my home and started breaking things I'd be scared for my life. Hows that any different for what's you are defending?
@jeemm they didn’t barge into their home. Random people walk down my street every day and I’ve never stood in my front yard with a fucking gun. I’ve literally witnessed drug deals and street brawls from my living room window, and I have never thought to myself “huh maybe I should go out there with a fucking gun”. I lock my fucking doors, and that hasn’t failed me yet.
@jeemm I literally just explained that that was the gate for the gated community. That gate doesn’t lead directly to their house, it leads to the street in the neighborhood. It is in a private community. Legally they’d be allowed to shoot, but morally that would be incredibly fucked up. Just because you’re legally allowed to do something doesn’t mean you should.
So what they're doing is morally right? Destroying property, forceful & illegal intrusion, public menace and threats? Any logical person would feel threatened by such individuals.
So where do you draw the line on what's acceptable and what isn't? Breaking a cage into a private property that people consider a safe space is okay but maybe breaking into their actual houses isn't? Effectively they both serve the same purpose. To feel SAFE. That was taken away from them so they felt the need to protect them selves.
True that's an option but where will the protesters go and what will they do? Best bet is that they do what they do best. Loot, destroy and steal. I don't know if there were any neighbours or not but protecting them is also a possibility why they went out of their way to go outside with guns to defend their home.
The rioters broke down this gate and entered a private community, they were not on public land. The couple had to either defend their community or let it be destroyed. What would you do if it was your home?
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