Why are feminists silent about the domestic abuse Johnny Depp suffered?

[Ivory_Princess]

[nerdybutlazy]

A lot of them are, however, though you have to admit people love say the system favours women and then question them when rape cases come up it's kinda like that with men abuse. Because of how we view "gender" fewer people are likely to believe Johnny even if it's true simply because he's a man.

Personally, I'm sad for him no one deserves that however again don't blame feminist blame society and I guess you could also blame the concept of the macho man, "because oh men are so tough" they could never be hurt by a woman, it works against them in cases like this. Assault against men isn't taken seriously becuase society tells us that men are these strong tough guys that can't be hurt by a dainty little woman until it actually happens... which is again why you never really hear male rape cases even tho it happens a lot.

Also you could say it's pettiness when people talk about rape cases for women no one really believes them in court or they say things like "she was wearing a thong, she wanted this", it could be they want men to get a little taste of revenge." Becuase Johnny is the man, he should've been able to over power her" But again personally, I feel bad for him. But this is the society we in and that's just gender politics playing out

[Ivory_Princess]

The thing i always think about rape cases is that if there are men out there evil enough to rape then there are certainly women out there evil enough to make up a false rape allegation. I dont there are more evil men than women, its got to be like 50/50.
My brother was accused of raping a girl at college, he had dumped and was dating someone else. She had a big sob story and the college was trying to kick him out, he faced harassment from feminists on campus everyday, his work was being marked down, there were flyers posters, hate mail, property damage, an Internet campaign. Thing was she made it all up, my brother was at a family wedding for the entire week 4 states away, on camera and everything.

[nerdybutlazy]

Sorry about your bother I do admit false rape cases are a big problem but the fact that society was so quick to blame him is 100% the point, we don't view genders equally in society we think men are more likely to commit crimes then women (which I mean it true but it shouldn't be something we think about too much) the reality is, if people didn't believe in the archtype of the 'hyper maucline dominate angry man" maybe your brother would've been given the benefit of the doubt and maybe people would care more about Johnny's case. The rape cases were only an example but even you have to attempt out of all the ones that are lies how when of them are actually turn or turned against the victim in the situation (being possible a man or a woman), it's kind ofsad when you think about it.

When people are seriously hurt they aren't taken seriously but when its a lie you're more likely to believe them, aside of that I'm sorry that happened to your brother but I think that most be a university where it happens a lot becuase most university's don't give that reaction

[ShootShootBangBang]

No actually more people support Johnny. So maybe they are simply targeting Amber because she’s a woman. by the way I’d watch what you say about false rape claims. They aren’t false 97% of the time. However, women who have come forward have a much higher suicide rate. Daisy and Audrey is a prime example.

[90sVibe]

Because most feminists today that would bother weighing in on this issue are of the modern wave and aren't actually true feminists who are interested in equality, equity, and truth. They are mostly selfish, hateful, and spiteful with no regard for others welfare unless it brings some form of benefit to their own situation and self empowerment. It's absolutely appalling and shameful for how they only march and protest for selfish gain instead of real issues going on all over the world and even in their own "backyards".

[Bananaman177]

Feminists are on record saying that innocent men deserve to be treated the same as guilty men. That they can, "gain from the experience."

Imagine if what happened to Johnny Depp happened to your son, imagine hearing some woman say, "It's fine, even though he's innocent, he can gain from the experience of being blackballed and censured and having his character assassinated for months in the press."

This shit happens to millions of men across the world every day, all day long. MOST of them don't have multi-million dollar careers and a huge media presence as a famous actor and a giant fanbase of supporters. Most of them just get fucking destroyed and the world keeps right on spinning while they crawl off to go die in a hole somewhere. And nobody cares.

I care a little tiny itty-bitty bit about poor Johnny Depp, but I care a WHOLE LOT MORE for all the regular guys that have been put through the same fucking machine.

[ShootShootBangBang]

Yes and MGTOW and Red Pills are on record saying that single moms deserve to be raped and sodomized. Stop standing up it.

[dcblah58]

Because they call themselves feminists. You remember what the people that led the civil rights movement called their movement? That's right, nothing like black lives matter, and that's because they wanted equality. What about the civil rights movement that included the name of the oppressed like the black Panthers, yup, the violent civil rights movement in history. They won't stop until black lives thrive above other races.
This is what feminism wants. They want females to have it easier yet be more wealthy than men. I agree we have differences in our lives as female and male; however, we must not assume that female and male are the same, expecting equality in every aspects. Females are good at some things that men are not and vice versa, and the feminist movement focuses on the areas of male expertise and demands equality, but equality in the. harsh blue collared life work? NAAHHHHHH LMAO.

[Sweetheart666]

No sorry that isn’t what women want.

[dcblah58]

Feminists, not women in general.

[Sweetheart666]

That’s not what all feminists want either. You and many people your age fail to understand what true feminism is.

[dcblah58]

K, nuff said

[dcblah58]

Please read my full statement and understand that I made the analogy between feminism and the black panther movement and look up what both of these represented and his things were carried out. Again I will disregard any of your replies. I have made a proper anaology to make my conclusion of feminism which is represented today which I have learned in academia (which might differ from the feminism you stand for).

[Sweetheart666]

Black panthers were a hate group who relied on corersion and violence. Women just wanted to be able to work outside the home, control their bodies and to protect themselves and their children when men beat them, rape them and try to ensure they are penniless if they ever leave.

[Smoke-n-Growls]

It's terrible that they are. And one of the reasons I increasingly don't identify as a feminist, but still stand for gender equality.

I don't understand how or why Heard is still able to operate with impunity.

Especially since most feminists decry domestic violence. One doesn't get to choose to paint oneself as a defender and champion of abuse victims, but pick and choose which abusers to let off the hook.

They ought to condemn her. If for no other reason than she's attempting to throw a rug over proof.

[GrimmGothBabe]

Actually society has made it so that women abusers aren't really talked about or taken seriously. Men were taught not to hit women so women have adapted to hitting men and its wrong but women abusing men has become so much more common because of the little things that society has stipulated as normal gender roles. Men also don't usually talk about or go to the authorities about abuse from women so it makes it harder to beleive that women do abuse men. Feminists tend to always go quiet about anything that puts them in a compromising position about spreading their beliefs and ideals.

[Sweetheart666]

No sorry violence isn’t taken seriously. There just isn’t as much violence caused by women. Also, men are much more likely to cause serious harm.

[Sweetheart666]

Violence is taken seriously sorry auto text.

[GrimmGothBabe]

I know multiple men who have been abused and shown marks and law enforcement didn't even look into it because they said a woman caused them -_-

[Sweetheart666]

I doubt you know multiple men who have been abused.

[GrimmGothBabe]

You doubt it because it doesn't follow your theories. I actually do however we all had the misfortune of being friends because they all dated my ex girlfriend and we ended up talking about it because I brought it up to see if it happened only with me or if it happened with her other exes as well. Only 1 out of 5 ex bfs didn't get abused and it was because he broke it off real early into the relationship. But thanks for proving my point that people belittle when dudes come forward and never want to believe that it happens. You should really not perpetuate stereotypes.

[Sweetheart666]

No it’s because often times people who have been abused do not come forward. So for you to tell me that you know all these men who have been abused is not likely. Unless you work in a crisis center. Even then you’d still see way more female victims.

[GrimmGothBabe]

isn't just amazing how you can sit there and defend women who can't come forward through fear while simultaneously putting down others and not believing them for the same shit.. its sad. Its true that not often does it happen that people come forward but it wasn't just random we all dated the same abuser we were all abused and I was the one responsible for bringing us together and we all banded together to help eachother heal since law enforcement neglected to investigate. In all honesty I dont care if you believe or not but its people like you who make it hard for people who have been victimized to want to talk because rather than believe the abused you throw statistics which are inaccurate because of the number unaccounted for that were never told and saying its improbable. My whole point is have an open mind be aware of the facts and don't assume you know what someone has gone through because until you've been a victim of a rape or abuse you'll never understand the fear and humiliation and judgmental bias that gets thrown at you reguardless of gender.

[Sweetheart666]

Oh i I definitely think both genders are abused. However, men are ultimately more likely to become violent than a woman. There are some exceptions to that rule. It’s just a shame you make it out like violence against women isn’t a big deal. All of it is. Tbh I think Johnny and Amber are both guilty. I’m sorry you have a slanted view though.

[Inbox]

@GrimmGothBabe All hail GrimmGothBabe!

[hellionthesagereborn]

Because they don't care. This has never been about doing what is right, its never been about "equality", its been about gaining power and shedding responsibility. Amber Heard is a role model for feminists everywhere, she is everything they want all women to be, rich, powerful, violent and awful with no accountability. Its their dream to be like her.

[claryy]

I am not a feminist, but I guess some feminazi think that men are inferior uman being, and I am disgustes by this definition.
We still live in a world where when a woman is abused it is a crime, but when it is a man it is not a crime. So this is why people aren't doing nothing, and I am sorry for Johnny.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

I read bellow what you said about your brother. I hope the bitch got a bad reputation for the lie she told. As the feminists harrassing your brother, they don't care about justice, they care about revenge. To them men deserve to feel that pressure and fear of being acused and have our lives destroyed even with no evidences because "we had enough privilege up until now". According to them women were never listen to in the past so men should not be listen to now as revenge for how things were.

Of course this is only valid to women. Since we historically were the oppressors, to put it simply, they don't give a fuck about what happens to us.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Feminazis, not feminists

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@hi_it_is_me123 Agree. Real feminists aren't like this.

[worldscolide]

Because it does not fit their narrative of men are rapists, abusers, and just inherently bad. The Domestic violence industry, and yes its an industry is a multi billion dollar industry, If they had to admit that they were wrong about men after all of these years of man hating, It would not look very good on them, would it? Bottom line is Feminists refuse to admit to things that go against their narrative. For example Erin Pizzey was kicked out of her own DV shelter that she started because she admitted the truth, that women are just as bad as men. She became antifeminist after that. she's actually one of the founding mothers of it. In any case The Johnny Depp situation is a perfect example of why feminism is cancer.

[cth96190]

Because women operate in a Borg-like collective consciousness, in which everything that advantages women is 'good' and everything that is fair to men is 'bad'.
That is the result of 60 years of Feminist/Communist indoctrination through the faux education system and Hollywood.
The result of the Depp defamation case is another example to illustrate the point that there is no longer any justice for men in the West.
The only way that men can protect themselves is to not interact with women.
As we say in martial arts, the best way to avoid a blow is to not be there (when it arrives).
The only way that men can protect themselves is to cut themselves off from interaction with females as much as possible. No dating, no sex, no relationships. . . nothing.
Do not even speak to women. I have seen 'good morning' used as the basis for a workplace sexual-harassment complaint.

[UncleJessieRabbit]

I disagree, because that is just escapism that doesn't tackle the real issue going on.

[cth96190]

@UncleJessieRabbit
First principle of tactics: fight only the battles that can be won.
You, versus the entire female collective and the government supporting a woman who has made a false accusation against you.
Let me know how that works for you, when it happens.

[Gisellerichestwoman]

LOL don’t interact with women. Victims!!

[cth96190]

@Gisellerichestwoman
There is no upside to interacting with females. There is only downside, in the current legal environment.
Feminists wanted to punish men for being men. To do that, they criminalised normal heterosexual interaction.
Okay, so be it.
Enjoy your cats.

[UncleJessieRabbit]

@cth96190 Do you really believe that the very large majority of women are evil or ill-intentioned? Most women so far in my anecdotal experience are rather "normal" to me.

[Gisellerichestwoman]

@UncleJessieRabbit You have such victim mentality. Disgusting.

[cth96190]

@UncleJessieRabbit
It has been my experience that most women are, as you put it: evil and ill intentioned.
The stories that I could tell you, from my life and the lives of relatives and colleagues, would be rejected as too extreme to be believed if they were offered as scripts for a soap opera.

[Killer-Queen]

You had me with feminism stuff but lost me with staying away from women. I hate feminism and have been female all my life. You're a victim, sir. You can usually guess which women to stay away from. Most people can. But all of them? Nah.

[Gisellerichestwoman]

@Killer-Queen At one point or another everyone will encounter “evil” people (men TOO), but it’s up to you to decide who you WILL associate with and who you will NOT. I can’t believe I’m explaining it to a 60 something year old. Some people really do not grow up.

[Killer-Queen]

@Gisellerichestwoman Girl lol He must have something straight up wrong with him. Something went wrong in his life and he needs to take responsibility.

[cth96190]

@Gisellerichestwoman
If 100 per cent of the dogs you encounter during your life attacked you and wanted to rip your head off, would it be reasonable to form the view that dogs were vicious?
That has been my experience with women.

[cth96190]

@UncleJessieRabbit
In their own words. . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbzF-Q_ZEDg

[Gisellerichestwoman]

@cth96190 No, then I would still assume that it’s something you’re putting out (energy wise). You must present yourself as a victim, so PEOPLE (general, not women), cannot resist it (easy victory).

[Killer-Queen]

Those are FEMINISTS. Not all of us even believe in that shit. Get a grip.

[Gisellerichestwoman]

@cth96190 AND You’re Australian. Disgrace.

[Gisellerichestwoman]

@Killer-Queen Feminism is dumb.

[cth96190]

@Gisellerichestwoman
It has been my unhappy experience, when I was much younger, that Australian females were among the nastiest and bitchiest on the planet.
When I was in the USA for a while, American girls will pretty much threw themselves at me. Perhaps it was the novelty of the accent, although most of them thought that I was British.
Australian girls did not just say 'no', it was common to be told to FOAD. - lol
Later, the same girl would be seen with a long haired (this was the 1970s and 1980s) knuckle dragger who dressed as though he was homeless.

[Killer-Queen]

@Gisellerichestwoman One of the dumbest ideologies to exist, really.

[hahahmm]

Modern feminism is about women getting as many rights as possible but zero responsibilities/obligations. Saying you did something wrong implies an obligation to make things right. It means you're not a victim.

The other thing that happens is that feminists only care about themselves even when they're in a relationship so they're not really capable of being a positive in a relationship.

[Sweetheart666]

Dude shut your stupid mouth. Women have plenty of responsibility. We are responsible for 80% of childcare and house care. On top of that, we work outside the home. We have plenty of responsibility. Shame on you for shortchanging women and children half a man coward.

[Sweetheart666]

Sorry folks, but this guy has continually put women’s rights down. He’s a toxic loser and part of the reason women and children suffer.

[msc545]

@Sweetheart666 and women like you are part of the reason men suffer.

[Sweetheart666]

@msc545 no actually I kind of just let the men around me be them. I don’t try to take anyone’s rights away either. Especially when it comes to children. All I hear about is how bad feminism is. I don’t think any of you what real feminism is. I also don’t think you have any appreciation for children or mothers. Then saying that women don’t have any responsibilities. You’re spoiled and ungrateful. You’re a waste of time.

[msc545]

@Sweetheart666 Right. Women like you are also why a lot of men are now uninterested in marriage.

[Sweetheart666]

@msc545 sorry deadbeat. Like I said it takes a lot of sacrifice to run a household. If you’re uninterested in marriage because you’d rather see the mother of your children penniless and the kids miss out then maybe it’s better you don’t get married. You wouldn’t have the respect or thoughtfulness it takes. In a marriage you share your lives. Stay alone. You’re just a waste of time.

[msc545]

@Sweetheart666 Sorry bitch. Would rather be alone than with a person like you.

[Sweetheart666]

I haven’t had any problem finding a decent guy. That’s because we work together towards the same goal, making each other happy. We also split costs too. That’s how it goes. Again stay alone.

[TruthBringer]

@Sweetheart666 You make it sound like a man doesn't have any responsibility at home. On top of that, if you complain so much about bearing children (which you can't without us), then don't. Nobody is forcing you to bear a child. Which reminds me, that a man takes care of his woman and endures all her moodswings and dilemma during pregnancy.

Also, let me break it down to you that this man (@hahahmm) speaks the truth about modern feminism. Because feminists HAVE proven to want all the benefits with zero responsibility. A good example of that is when feminists got mad when Adele had to hand over millions over to her ex after SHE divorced him. Something which is very common to happen to a man. But somehow, that piece of 'equality' that they are screaming for years, didn't taste so well. How ironic.

And realizing that modern feminism is a joke doesn't make someone "toxic". These are typical shaming tactics whenever someone can't come up with a valid counter argument.

[Sweetheart666]

@TruthBringer they do but not normally as much as the woman. Can’t help the stats pal. The commenter even said women didn’t have any responsibilities.

[Sweetheart666]

@TruthBringer just because someone brings a child into this world doesn’t mean that they should be silent about the pain and responsibility it takes. The fact that you’d want them to just withhold their feelings is unacceptable. You can try to make it out like men experience pregnancy the same as women but they don’t. Maybe they are moody with you because you consider a mood swing as horrible as going through labor. This conversation is over. You aren’t very bright.

[Sweetheart666]

by the way men are much more likely to cheat while their wife or girlfriend is pregnant. Hell even Trump did it! So don’t act like some patron saint that’s been through labor or the pain involved because you haven’t. How idiotic of you. Then siding with someone who said women don’t have any responsibility and all the other garbage. Nah you’re not a real man.. pass.

[Sweetheart666]

Also what you’ve just said proves I was right last night too. Sheep in wolves clothes. Like women don’t have to deal with mood swings too during their pregnancy. Yeah they experience all of it plus the pain of labor. How very thoughtless of you.

[Sweetheart666]

@TruthBringer I actually haven’t heard any feminists talk about Adele. However, with that being said goes to show that you are okay with him getting half but not in the case of women. When Adele’s ex did that men like you cheered. But when a woman does it, oh she doesn’t deserve rights, she’s doesn’t do anything and blah blah. You’re hypocrites. So ultimately, you’re siding with someone who thinks women shouldn’t be treated like people with rights and that we don’t have any responsibilities. I have no problem with dividing half the assets. I have a problem with disrespectful and ungrateful men like you.

[TruthBringer]

@Sweetheart666 “tHiS cOnVeRsAtIoN iS OvER. YoU aReN’t vErY bRiGhT”. *Proceeds on writing 3 more replies*. We clearly got a triggered snowflake here. Sorry sweetie, but nobody is forcing you to go through these hardships. Which come with the burden of life. Playing victim for your own life choices shows you’re not so bright yourself. And saying men are likely to cheat while their woman is pregnant is a strawman argument that has nothing to do with the main topic. Nice try. It reflects back to the woman for opening her legs to low-value men who lack integrity.

I’ve seen feminists get mad about Adele’s. Situation. Which is only fair. Not sure where you get the idea that I’m not okay with the man getting half but not the woman. I mean afterall, women always do. So it’s only fair for both sides. Equality, remember? Isn’t that what we want? Fair equality? The feminists apparently do not. And it’s not me who has proven to be a hypocrite, it is modern feminists. Either we have fair equality like that or no one has to pay no one anything. Cake have your cake and eat it too.

What the other guy said, it means society is pandering to women and making things very easy for them, while the MAN has the burden of performance. Suicide rates among men are higher than that of women. While there are even more women than men here in the west. That alone should tell you something. I’m not a real man? Yet I never got told this in real life and am still wearing an Officer’s uniform at the Air Force 😂.

Judging from your emotional rant and the fact you attack the person, rather than the statement shows you lack the intellectual capacity to come with a valid counter-argument. What you are doing is venting your insecurity that some random stranger over the internet doesn’t agree with you. And this at the age of 36 😂. Take your emotions elsewhere, sweetie. I’m sure your cats or your beta provider would ease your pain.

[Sweetheart666]

@TruthBringer I’m not a victim at all. You’re a waste of breath.

[TruthBringer]

@Sweetheart666 Then quit acting like one, precious snowflake ;)

[Sweetheart666]

@TruthBringer I’m not. I think things through and realize the repercussions of disrespect. I meant every word I said.

[hahahmm]

@Sweetheart666 You haven't disproved anything I said. You're basically saying that "we do some of the things our grandmothers did (some of the time, if we're in the mood and the boss at work doesn't need us)". Well men are still doing 100% of what our grandfathers did.

Some free advice for you, try posting when you're not in an emotional rage. It probably will help you think and not fit yourself into stereotypes about women being too emotional.

[Sweetheart666]

I’ve said exactly what I mean and have nothing else to say. I stand by what I’ve said.

[Sweetheart666]

You’re clueless. Men don’t do everything that their grandparents had to do because technology has evolved. My grandparents didn’t even have indoor plumbing. So don’t give me any bs. Women are now in charge of more since they work outside the home too. Men have always worked outside the home. However, as time goes on they have actually starting doing less because of the changes in technology. Stop disrespecting us by telling us we should not have rights or that we don’t deserve them. We have plenty of responsibility and are people as well, You’re ungrateful and disrespectful. Considering your mindset I can see why you have an issue with women. Maybe you’re the reason women need a group that looks after their interests.

[TruthBringer]

@hahahmm Just smile and wave to the feminazi. Smile and wave 😂. She does fit every stereotype so there is no point in bothering

[hahahmm]

@TruthBringer Yup.

[Sweetheart666]

I have no more to say to you. I will continue to stand up for women. Get your issues with women figured out. You have no clue what true feminism is.

[TruthBringer]

@Sweetheart666 You do just that, precious little snowflake. Don't mind us men standing up for other men against toxic women like yourself. I "got" so many "issues" with women, yet somehow manage to be in a healthy relationship with a wonderful girl who is happy to be with me. Who also is going to join me in the US for my fighter pilot training. But that shouldn't matter since a feminazi over the internet somehow knows about my life better than myself 😂. Ciao ciao 😘

[ShootShootBangBang]

How about you look in the mirror and figure out why your lives are so lacking? Men have always had the upper hand. I agree with sweetheart to some degree too. I thank god I don’t have to go through labor then listen bums like you.

[Anonymous]

Because feminists don’t want to take accountability and looking at themselves in the mirror. The world we live in is shaped to “care” about others but it seems more ‘me-centric’ that goes for the LGBTQ, feminists, liberals/democrat & conservative/republican supporters. After analyzing the enlightenment period of the 18th century, sure self-thought for advancements in science and technology but it’s also had a double edged sword counter on society as well. People may not agree with this but I don’t believe in ism-based ideologies. Yeah we won’t see eye to eye on things but times today seem different. It seems like if someone disagrees with you they will go mental or pull a gun out on you... retarded, immature, dangerous times we live in.

[Puppystarfish23]

I believe in equal rights for both genders and but feminism is still very important in today's society but unfortunately i have to say I'm disgusted with the treatment of Johnny Deep and the fact none of these feminist are sticking up for him. Unfortunately a lot of so called feminist are actually not for equal rights of both genders and they are the types of people who give feminist a bad name and have let feminism get in the wrong hands and turned it into a joke.

Either way Amber turd has ruined her own career along with Johnny's and im sure he will get throw this. Johnny is loved by many and is a amazing actor whilst Amber is shit at acting and people hate her. Honestly who wants to hire someone who shits the bed?

[TruthBringer]

We need more like you on GAG

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

First of all, how do you define a feminist and how do you know that they're silent about it? Assuming that feminists were silent about it, it makes sense that they are unlikely to comment on issues that don't involve female victims. While not all forms of feminism are the same, nonetheless, the goal of feminism is to represent, support, and uplift women, especially if they're victims. This doesn't mean that they don't care about male abuse; it's just simply not their issue. If a woman is the abuser in a relationship, then there is nothing to uplift regarding her. Yet, that doesn't mean that some feminists aren't speaking out against women that abuse men or even this case specifically. With that being said, I will ask again: how do you know for sure that this isn't happening?

[Brokenheartedx]

The fact she is still on a contract and he has lost work is dispicable... The fact he lost a court case against that disgusting rag the sun newspaper calling him a wife beater etc is a disgrace.. Unfortunately none of us can say he didn't hit her, the 2 jakeballs where out their tits on drugs, but she has admitted to hitting him and yet she got off scot free what example is that setting for domestic abuse? She should have lost her contract as well. You work in films aimed at children but openly admit to taking drugs then both should be out of jobs... Both in the wrong. Why does she have a job still is the question? She's vile and an evil streak about her, can't act and a gold digger, let's be honest she's defo no stranger to the infamous * casting couch*

[KaylaD24]

Well its stupid really cuz feminists arnt suppose to be only caring about their own gender as the original purpose of feminism is to raise the equality between men and women as in the past women where seen as less and only a tool for men to create heirs in their family but in this day and age that not as a prominent issue anymore but should still speak out against women take it the other way and try to own men thats why feminism is stupid now because all feminists care about these days is any victim who is woman but if your a guy they dont care which is wrong because like i said the original purpose was based on equality now they fight for un equality by making things the other way around.

[Anonymous]

Why are feminists silent about the domestic abuse Johnny Depp suffered?
The Feminists are silent about this as it doesn't fit their 'The woman is always the victim' narrative. they go on about the domestic abuse that women suffer but you will rarely if ever hear about the men who suffer domestic abuse at the hands of women, men do not bring it to the notice of police for they know that the women that it is they who is suffering the domestic abuse and the police will accept it as then have been trained and blinkered by the Duluth Model

[PBandJ_Nerd]

It might be because a male feminist hasn't wrote about it yet (yes, there are male feminists and they write about mens rights as well as women). Or it could be that people just aren't paying that much attention to the fact his partner had abused him. I mean, there's those people that are like "well, men are dominant so they're strong enough to fight off anyone who tries to hurt them." Even though some men don't do that when they get hit and stuff because they know if they do people might assume he's the abuser instead of the victim. I've said this before but it's easier to just let them do whatever they want to you rather than trying to defend yourself (since doing that will just anger the abuser more).

[ririissleepy]

Well feminist as a group don't adress this because it is a completely different issue.
However if you are implying that women in general are not standing up for male domestic abuse victims you are wrong. Most people have great empathy with Johnny depp.

[chapawapa]

I suppose I am a feminist. Yeah, I am not silent about it at all or any domestic violence! It's pretty sickening. This issue has nothing to do with feminism, so I dont understand the moot point. The better point is why isn't it handled better across countries. Domestic violence, in general, is silent

[chris_987]

Does it prove that women get special treatment and feminism is about making things equal

[chapawapa]

As I said that's a moot point

[chapawapa]

Especially if you're relating that back to the question of abuse.

that sentence is contradicting elaboration would be great

[chris_987]

Sure, she admits to abusing him but yet she hasn’t been fired for being an abuser as Johnny depp was. And she also speaks at feminist rally’s against domestic violence well being the perpetrator. So I Don get why this has nothing to do with feminism

[chapawapa]

What is your question?

To comment on your statement. Yes, that situation is unfortunate. I don't know much from the current trial. The information I had seen several years ago (2015/2016) before this was big I had noticed patterns of him being a victim. It was good that he was in the state of mind to record it; most domestic victims do not. Unless they are attempting to find a way out. I dont know the roles that we're played within their relationship. My first reaction is that she needs to be charged appropriately, and I hope she seeks mental health treatment because she clearly shows signs of trauma and perhaps PTSD. Her condition is endangering herself and others. Maybe it can be court ordered. Of course, depending on the evidence findings. Unfortunately, there are only a few careers that are against hiring workers or volunteers with a criminal background. So essentially, she can work or volunteer for any cause that will want to take her... That doesn't mean people have to listen. Ethnically I would not hire her unless she had something to say about receiving mental health treatment and her reflection back onto her relationship with johnny D. Her situation doesn't relate to feminism because feminism is against all abuse (sexual, physical, emotional, mental, etc.). These forms of violence are generally considered inherently gendered due to the overwhelming perpetration of the violencr by men towards women and children throughout the world. So it would behoove the people asking her to speak, wherever that is, to be cautious about the message she is spreading to crowds of people. It has a chance to influence people detrimentally.

[chris_987]

I just think at the end of the day humans are tribal and we have a mob mentality when it comes to the groups we aline ourselves with, so in the case of feminism is us against them. Like you see a woman who abuses men as some who need help. But feminist see men who abuse women as our natural stat. Why aline yourself with a group that is only trying advance one gender. It’s makes no sense when you consider men and women have survived this long because we decided to work together. All feminism is doing is telling women then don’t need a man to live a happy life. You might as well tell the human species to stop growing. But it’s whatever, we obviously don’t agree with the situation

[chapawapa]

Hmm we definitely view feminism differently and definitely in the past decade people have started to misinterpret or form their own conclusions of feminism and the negative appearance has taken hold of popular opinion. Which simply isn't true

So I disagree with your point. So ill just agree to disagree. Have a good one

[Koalamate]

There needs to be more awareness of demestic violence towards men.

Women often attack men they are married to and force them to fight back then call the police on them and get everything in the divorce due to lack of evidence and a bias court system.

[spuitkaas]

I don't know where you've been but all my feminist friends were in uproar when Johnny Depp was fired from fantastic beasts. I see it literally everywhere and I'm not even that interested in celebrities or from the USA.
If you choose to ignore the uproar then that's your choice.

[DudeDiligence]

Can you provide some examples of this feminist uproar? Some links, perhaps. I have completely missed it so would appreciate if you could point us to it. Thanks in advance.

[p0ltergeist]

a LOT are. you don't get to decide that the only people who you can call feminists are the ones you don't agree with just like I don't get to decide the opposite.
but the ones that aren't are, in a lot of cases, very embarrassed because when this story was first developing, they threw their lot behind Amber Heard, canceled Depp, and don't feel confident enough to retract their statements based on new evidence. they "don't know what to believe," because she was so convincing to begin with.