Why is nobody standing up for the disabled?

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Bluemax · Accepted Answer

When an officer gives you a lawful order, you comply. Ordering someone out of his car is a lawful order. I understand it will take longer, but if he got in the car he can get out. According to the story, it seems he refused when he was issued a lawful order. If you don't comply, the officer is within his/her authority to drag your ass out of the car by force. This has been upheld time and again. The fact that he is a paraplegic does *not* excuse him from complying. He should not have refused the lawful order, thus if it went down as the police said (and I acknowledge that's a big if), I stand by the police, not the paraplegic. For their own safety, the police must ensure that the suspect is fully subdued. The officers could not know whether or not the driver was lying. For their safety, it's only prudent they assume he is. Hence why I support they treat the paraplegic no different from anyone else. I would also point out that a paraplegic is just as capable of killing a cop as any able bodied person. Just ask my bro. He is a very good shot and he carries a piece with him and he has cerebral palsy.

Now it's entirely possible that a jury is going to be highly sympathetic to the paraplegic. That is a mistake. Since anyone can lie, it's only prudent for the safety of the officers to assume that a suspect *is* lying. There isn't, nor should there be, a different set of rules for officers to deal with disabled drivers.

Bottom line? An officer gives you a lawful order you better damn well do it. If a paraplegic can drive the car, then he can damn well get out when an officer orders him to do so. This person seems to have refused to comply. *THAT* was a mistake, and being disabled doesn't excuse it.

Crazybeeguy · Accepted Answer

The laws that protect the disabled are only to "ensure" the humane treatment of people. There is also some parts that ensure = access to public/private facilities. The law of ADA says "reasonable" requests and not too burdensome on the "system" e. g. Gov or corporate. What people don't think about is some disabilities are not on the outside. You can't see them, it's not like a ailment like a paraplegic, it's mental. People with mental issues, look and can move like everyone else, so society expects them to just be like everyone else. Well, then when the physical burden of trying to be like everyone else fails. Well you see what happens on TV. Thats no excuse for violent behaviours, but there is certain limitations of capacity to function. Think about some Autistic people, they are brilliant programners, companies seek them out because they excel at it, their "disability" is not burdensome. Because of this the law doesn't really recognise them as disabled. There was a case United Airlines vs Pilots, where when the pilots had perscription glasses. The law did not recognize them as disabled anymore, wtf? How does that make sense? If they lost their glasses they were still legally blind. After taking it to court a couple of times, finally the pilots won. Now, imagine someone with a mental health issue had to fight tooth and nail for that kind of protection, with little or no support. The only thing is if they had tons of money and a really hungry lawyer that wanted to be president, then there's a chance. Maybe AOC can stop going to expensive celebrity dinners.

DJB72 · Answer

My hero was a guy called Douglas Bader. He was awarded a knighthood for his activities to improve rights of the disabled in the UK.

During World War 2 he was a fighter pilot. He was shot down over France and captured in around 1942. He spent the rest of the war escaping from every POW camp he was sent to except the last one, Colditz. Although there were escapes from the castle fortress he wasn't able to join them.

In the mid 1930s he was a young pilot. Showing off as a result of being goaded he rolled a Bulldog aeroplane too close the the ground. The injuries he sustained resulted in him losing both his legs.

I lost my lower right leg last year. I'm not about to ask someone else to stand up for me.

Did the cops behave badly? Absolutely. Their behaviour was appalling. At the same time, the man was leaving a property known to be a hub of criminal activity. Paraplegic or not, carrying large quantities of cash away from such a property makes you a target for law enforcement.

The officers should have opened the door and held it open so the man was fully visible until the "white shirt" arrived. He should not have been assaulted at that point unless he produced a firearm.

I'm "disabled". I will never be treated that way. Not because I'm white - in South Africa that's a disadvantage - but because I will not place myself in a position to be treated that way.

A cripple can still use a gun. Ask Oskar Pistorius's dead girlfriend - the Paralympian shot & killed her.

And a concealed weapon fired by a paraplegic is still a weapon that can kill.

People *are* standing up for the disabled. The disabled are standing up for themselves. The same way able-bodied people do - by staying out of the way of criminal activity.

Don't get "disabled rights" brought into this. Civil rights, maybe. Nobody should be assaulted that way. But that's not a "disabled" issue.

RolandCuthbert · Answer

I don't think this is a case about him being disabled.

But you know my thoughts on the issue.

No group can ask for people to stand up on their behalf. We can only stand behind them.

https://www.csvanw.org/mmiw

4 out of 5 of our Native women are affected by violence today.

Why is nobody standing up for the disabled?

TheBigGuy9 · Answer

The media doesn’t care unless you die or get severely injured so that they can profit off of it. That’s the level of empathy they show.

Still, all he had to do was comply. Sure, bring the dog and sniff my car if I won’t let you in. Just help me get out of the car. This is coming from a felon. You already know what’s going to happen if you don’t comply. You ever think people don’t comply in hopes that the officers do something that can be pushed a certain narrative because that’s what they see on tv? See that you can possibly get paid millions to not comply with the police?

Sonorous · Answer

I think people's empathy isn't as consistent when they can't easily relate to the individual.

Not_Average · Answer

Wow, so unprofessional and inhumane. Take all their badges. Not one of their officers has the balls to stop that and regulate their partner? Unless he was reaching and had a violent record, that’s unjustified.

GoodGuyBreakingBad · Answer

I think this is horrible, I got a 46-year-old cousin who has Cerebral Palsy and he uses a battery-operated wheelchair, he has no control over his back and legs down this is horrible police pulled this guy out of his vehicle

Jamie05rhs · Answer

Because it's not their turn anymore.
Disabled people and Jewish people were in back in the 1990s. Nowadays it's perfectly acceptable to hate Jews, and people with disabilities have taken the back burner as they have slid to the bottom of the woke intersectionality hierarchy.

t-8900 · Answer

public outrage only happens when people have something to gain from the situation or it affects them personally. But it's like most people give a damn about others these days, sadly.

exitseven · Answer

Lots of people stand up for the disabled. My wife works with a lot of disabled people and there are resources out there to help them.

Reverselogic · Answer

Because the disabled tend not to have victim complexes. They accept their circumstances and try to make the best of it. Since they don't crave attention every five minutes, people tend not to give it to them or just don't notice them.

jasco · Answer

people stop caring about others a long time along. No one really cares for anyone anymore.

Quigly · Answer

If he had his wheelchair in the back seat or trunk there's no reason he couldn't get out. The only problem I see with the officer is that he never asked if he had his chair with him. He might have left his chair at home to make a quick run someplace.

jshm2 · Answer

Because they have wheelchairs and crutches, and no one ones to make them feel worse... Meh, no standing ovation for that joke...

genericname85 · Answer

why is it that people thing "an antire group of the population is suppressed or treated unfairly" because of one sensational medially presented event?

Avicenna · Answer

Isn't the ADA evidence that people are?

Syrian_survivor · Answer

Because only sex and race minorities are the trend these days

TallAnon · Answer

Retarded police officer probably had no idea what paraplegic even meant

Jayplays900 · Answer

Cause the disabled never stood up for me..! Oh, wait.

blondfrog · Answer

Yeah that's messed up.

msc545 · Answer

You don't hear about this very much.

Why is nobody standing up for the disabled?

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