Did you celebrate when you heard the Charlie Kirk got murdered?

[Gwendoline]

Seems a lot of people were celebrating when he got shot, I can't think why, he wasn't a bad guy. I didn't agree with everything he said but it seems his appeal was just saying what most of us believe. I feel sorry for his wife & children, as well as Charlie Kirk who won't get to see his children grow up. I greatly admire the way his supporters handled his murder, not with riots or protests but with prayer gatherings and rosary vigils. I think his death has revealed a real lacking in a lot of people's character.

Yes I was celebrating the death of this man

No why would I celebrate the death of a Christian father& husband who never did me or anyone else any harm and just spoke his beliefs good & bad.

Updates

3 mo

"When a hero stumbles, the cowards rejoice. Nothing feels better to a coward than to see a brave guy fall."
~ Dave Chappelle ~

[Cormac995]

This is a copy and paste from a different post that was asking the same question that I answered so it perfectly applies to answering your question still so I'm reposting it.

Charlie kirk was a lying propagandist SOB that I actively think is a fucking jack ass and I'm happy he won't be spreading lies anymore. You know what I'm not grateful about? The fact that it was a political murder that shut him up.

Look I hate Trump I hated Charlie but FFS he didn't deserve to get gunned down in such a gruesome way in front of his own wife and child. His kids are fucking 3 and 1 years old and they saw everything! Then there's his poor wife who will never be able to scrub that image from her mind and now she has t raise her kids alone.

Those kids are too little to understand! How is she as a mother supposed to tell her daughter that daddy is gone and he won't be ok or coming home? What about their one-year-old when they ask, "Why don't I have a dad mom?" She had to watch her husband get his throat slit on stage right in front of her daughter watched her own dad bleed out in front of her.

Charlie Kirk was a son of a bitch, but he was also a man not a monster and he didn't deserve to die this way, and his family didn't deserve to lose a husband and father either let alone in such a gory way in front of their own eyes. I just keep thinking about the poor kids and how fucked up the rest of their lives are going to be. I've been through a lot of trauma myself and I wouldn't wish seeing something like that on almost anyone.

Also, what makes this worse is it achieves nothing and in fact had the reverse effect. Now he's a martyr and his death will be a massive boost to the republicans' numbers and may even help tip the scale back towards Trump gain favor and worse this helps cover up Epstein wore because now the news outlets are pumping the next big story instead.

This was a senseless, meaningless, needless killing that only divides the country more destroys a family and boosts the same propaganda that the shooter hated him enough to kill him for. By doing this the shooter has actively made Charlie and his views more popular and sympathetic. The shooter probably spread Charlie's message farther in killing Charlie than Charlie probably ever did in his entire life.

This is also why I'm terrified Trump will be assassinated. I hate Trump and every day I wake up hoping there's a news headline about his diabetes's killing him or a heart attack, but I live in dread that he'll be assassinated because if someone kills him it will only make him a martyr too. It won't change the views of the MAGA movement or kill it. It will make it more popular cause more division and honestly, I could see it leading to open violence in the streets like bleeding Kansas or worse even a civil war.

Don't make your enemies into symbols it only gives them more power and further it incriminates and makes your views seem disgusting. Nobody takes the manifesto of a murderer seriously and nobody sympathizes with it either. If you want things in America to change for the better and this division to stop and sanity to return to our government than protest peacefully, donate to charities that are helping those effected and for the love of God stop with the constant fucking violence!

You know what this is actually going to achieve? This is going to lead to tit for tat killings, we're already seeing it. We saw two democratic senators get murdered in their own home and literally a couple months later we have an anti-Trumper shooting up a school church killing and injuring children and now one of the most brutal assassinations in recent memory.

How long until some republicans decide to go after say Ethen Kline or someone else and kill him and his wife in retaliation? Violence breeds violence and while there are cases where violence can be necessary like defending your country from attack violence against your own people is never ever justified no matter how righteous you think your cause is.

Republican or democrat doesn't matter we're all Americans and that used to mean something! Instead, we have both parties trying to demonize the other to the point half the country hates each other enough to start killing. Trump and the democrats are both pushing it just Trump way, way more and we need to focus on what we have in common.

It doesn't matter if you voted for Kamila or Trump what every voter had in common during this election was, we wanted what we thought was best for the country. Just because we disagree on what is best for the country doesn't mean we should hate each other. It means we should find compromise and common ground every chance we get because until both sides are willing to stop fighting and compromise our government will be gridlocked forever.

It's been over 10 years since federal minimum wage was raised because the politicians are playing game of thrones while us the normal people can barely afford fucking eggs! By turning us against each other the politicians have created a smoke screen that lets both sides fuck us over and over and over and until the people realize the real enemy is corruption and not each other things will only get worse.

Never forget that while you are struggling to pay rent the politicians are taking tips on stocks from businesses in exchange for selling your financial future down the river. The problem in this country, the real one is that everyone is fighting their allies when they should be fighting our enemies.

Look I don't care if you're a republican or a democrat you know what both of us should be working together towards instead of hurting each other? We should be focusing on our broken economy, our dying job market, our crashing population the lack of opportunities the average citizen has and the fact health care companies have made a business out of our suffering pain and illness.

And you know what else? while Alex jones is a fucking jack ass I agree with him that I don't want shit in the water turning the fucking frogs gay! ((Yes, I'm aware that's likely BS my point is I hate corpos dumping waste wherever and however they want)).

There is between 50% and 500% more lead in our bones as our preindustrial revolution counter ancestors, mental health issues are through the roof, diabetes is becoming a norm for people, we have fucking micro plastics in our DNA and fucking sperm and the middle class is slowly ceasing to exist entirely. WE HAVE BIGGER ISSUES THAN KILLING EACH OTHER!!!

[Cidknee]

Wow! You brought a tear to my eye. It was so warm and touching I only made it through the first 2 paragraphs.

You should become a writer of love stories. Really!!

[Cormac995]

@Cidknee maybe finish reading it first.

[Cidknee]

Well, I guess you can prove Charlie was a "lying SOB"?

[Cormac995]

@Cidknee Jan 6th being stolen was bullshit and anyone that's not brain washed knows it just like how Trump won this time anyways. Charlie pushed it hard.

[Cidknee]

I don't follow. Stole j6th? Oh, how j6th was to not only distract from the voter fraud but also for any future questions about the voter fraud the opposition could then call you an insurrectionist. Thats all true.

[Cormac995]

@Cidknee no you're just a moron in a cult echo chamber.

[Cidknee]

You talk of echo chambers! After that rant you typed out over an hour I guess. Read part of it from. Those headlines. What you say and all the rest over there spew about maga and Trump is so far from reality it'd be laughable if the left wasn't TRYING to destroy this country. "Kamila" included.

[Cormac995]

@TheWombRaider I'm not left wing they're as big of a fucking moron as you MAGA cultists are. Both of you are a fucking problem and I'm sick of your shit from both ends.

[Cormac995]

@Cidknee Like I said, echo chamber. Fucking retard.

[abc3643]

You did not give me a poll choice to answer this question properly. You should have just had a simple Yes, No, Unsure, See Results. By adding extra text in your Yes/No choices you voided those choices as suitable answers. For instance, I don't celebreate Kirk's assassination, but this:

"why would I celebrate the death of a Christian father& husband who never did me or anyone else any harm and just spoke his beliefs good & bad."

voided it for me. He did do harm. A lot of harm. Which is one reason why he was the target of an assassination - and, be clear, that's what it is, not not just some generic murder. And, his being Christian is irrelevant... especially since his ideology had nothing to do with Christianity.

No, I don't celebrate Kirk's death in the least. Maybe some good will come out of it, but I doubt it. I really didn't know Charlier Kirk very well and never knew about him until this week but, from what I gather, I would not have endorsed his ideology, but endorsed his touring to engage in debate.

I will let the movie GoodFellas speak somewhat for my feelings...

https://www.youtube.com/embed/qUL1wKCYRsQ

And dat's dat.

[Anonymous]

Celebrate? No. I had never heard of him before. Most of why I don't feel bad is because of everyone on here screaming their heads off about the radical leftists, only to find out the kid who did it is a gun-loving MAGA member. The violent rightwing rhetoric on here is appalling. I'm not even sure most MAGA people on here actually care, so long as they can just flame the liberals, they won't pass up the opportunity to spread their hate. And as per usual, no apologies that they were wrong yet again. Based on the little I have read, I would not have cared for the guy if I had ever heard of him but the hate being spewed by MAGA toward the left, is disgusting, and it continues while most of them bury their head in the sand yet again pretending it wasn't one of their own supporters who killed him.

[emeraldsaphire]

Of-course not. I don't even know any of his political stances. People say he's conservative so I'd probably disagree with him everything. Other then free speech and ant political violence. Although he was probably inconstant on those principles

[Chazmatazz269]

I hope you someday recognize the folly of admitting you know nothing about someone and then immediately speculating negatively about the same. It’s just plain willful ignorance.

[BadApple69]

Charlie Kirk’s crimes:
He sat at a table and asked leftists questions.
Questions the leftist don’t have good answers for.


Punishment:
A bullet to the neck




Anyone that rejoices this is a sociopath.
They themselves need to be locked up because they are a dander to the general public.


I have been very happy to see many of these sociopaths on tic tok who rejoiced the assassination of another human being are loosing their jobs and being kicked out of collages.


Charlie Kirk’s only crime…. Wanting to have an open discussion on important topics with those who disagree. Every time he sat at that table he was surrounded by people that hated him. he had the courage to do it over and over again, over 3000 schools. You may not have agreed with him and that’s ok. But there was no reason to murder a man that just wants to talk.

[supercutebutt]

Charlie was killed by a far-right extremist who was raised by MAGA Republicans in a Christian community. It appears Mr. Kirk simply wasn't far-right enough for Tyler Robinson. :(

[BadApple69]

Sorry… incorrect. From the assassins high school buddy:

A former high school friend of Charlie Kirk's assassin, Tyler Robinson, described him as
"pretty left on everything" and said he was the "only member of his family that was really leftist."

Also Tyler was living with his trans-woman….. girlfriend I guess.

This guy wasn’t MAGA. Sorry. Keep up with the news the story is constantly evolving.

[Gwendoline]

@supercutebutt seems a non-christian who was radicalised at college and never voted in the last election. They say he became political in recent years.

[supercutebutt]

@Gwendoline Tyler is a Mormon raised in a staunchly conservative MAGA home. This proves what we already knew: Strict religious upbringings destroy the human brain. And MAGA is a cult. Research the Trump shooter from last year. He was also raised in a very conservative, MAGA home. So much violence. What's wrong in America that MAGA parents can't recognize when their sons are losing their minds? Why won't they take their guns away? We need strict gun control now. Conservative parents can't be trusted.

Very sad. :(

[supercutebutt]

@BadApple69 Gun control now. MAGA parents can't be trusted to police their own sons. :(

[Danzigdawson]

@supercutebutt Well said 👍

[Gwendoline]

@supercutebutt Mormons aren't Christians. They are Mormons. I grew up in Britain where we weren't allowed any weapon for self defence. There are stabbings all the time and machete attacks. Last year in Southport 3 little girls were stabbed to death & 8 others injured and left in critical condition. I've been to birthday parties like that here in the US, the big difference being that if a deranged pyscho turned up to hurt children there's a few people there with a gun to stop him dead in his tracks.
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[goaded]

@BadApple69 "Editor’s note: This article was updated on 12 September 2025 to remove quotes after the verified source who attended high school with Tyler Robinson said after publication that they could not accurately remember details of their relationship." www.theguardian.com/.../charlie-kirk-shooter-suspect-latest-news-updates-donald-trump-utah (I'm sure all the right wing pages that repeat that information will be updated immediately.)

"Also Tyler was living with his trans-woman….. girlfriend I guess."
You guess? Even so, that doesn't make him a typical left-winger, does it?

[Gwendoline]

@goaded guardian is not really a reliable source of information. Living with a transgender lover is not exactly a MAGA thing nor a Christian nationalist thing, though he was definitely non Christian

[supercutebutt]

You aren't a Christian, either. You put Trump before God and you hate thy neighbor. You are MAGA, which is the opposite of Christian. That's what they are.

So, the Robinson family believes a magician named Jesus Christ did tricks 2000 years ago and they currently talk to him now that he's an invisible man in the sky. They have strong racist and homophobic views and they worship guns so they can protect themselves from the gays and the n-words, as your community calls them. You are EXACTLY the same. :)

[goaded]

@Gwendoline Roommate, not necessarily lover (and they turned him in).

How about this, which proves he wasn't rebelling against his Mormon gun enthusiast family:

"Utah Governor Spencer Cox said a family member told investigators that Robinson had become "more political" in recent years. The relative also said that during a dinner conversation before the attack, Robinson had discussed Kirk's upcoming event at Utah Valley University where he was gunned down on 10 September, according to Cox.

"They talked about why they didn't like him and the viewpoints that he had," Cox said."
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o

"why they didn't like him". They.

He shot a man whose opinion was that his roommate should be locked up forever or stoned to death or something, and wanted to create a society where that sort of (Taliban-like) thing happens. I wonder why.

[BadApple69]

@goaded “He shot a man whose opinion was that his roommate should be locked up forever or stoned to death or something, and wanted to create a society where that sort of (Taliban-like) thing happens. I wonder why.”

Then why wasn’t Robinson targeting Islam? In Islamic countries they throw gay people off of roof tops.

Right now the left is claiming he was on the right and the right was claiming he was left. Look at tic tok and all the 20 something year olds who are cheering Kirk’s assassination. What is wrong with those young people? I believe they are getting radicalized in collage. And I believe Robinson was also radicalized.
I don’t know about you @goaded but

[BadApple69]

Sent too fast… sorry!
I don’t know about you but people applauding an assassination is not normal behavior

[BadApple69]

Just read this:

Utah Governor Says Suspected Charlie Kirk Assassin Left Note, Has ‘Leftist Ideology’
Utah Gov. Spencer Cox provided more details about the suspect in multiple interviews on Sept. 14.

This came from the Epoch times and one of the interviews was with CNN.

[goaded]

"why wasn’t Robinson targeting Islam?" Because the US is never going to be a Islamic state. It might be a Christian Nationalist state if people like Kirk got their way, and they have many of the same views.

“This is what happens, when Marxists don’t get their way.” - Senator Mike Lee on the assassination of Minnesota elected lawmakers.

Is that really better than nobodies saying things like “l don’t care that he’s dead.” “He’s not a hero.” “He’s a scumbag.” “He shouldn’t be celebrated.”, about a man killed on camera? And that's from an elected member of congress.

[supercutebutt]

Far-right and far-left are basically the same in horseshoe theory. This twisted killer was raised in an extremist home by extremist parents in an extremist Mormon/MAGA community. Then he got angry at a blowhard and killed him with a gun his extremist upbringing taught him to use.

[Gwendoline]

@supercutebutt not a great lover of Mormons myself but remember when south park made that musical about the book of Mormon? The Mormons didn't go shoot up south park's offices like what happened at Charlie Hebdo. Seems the killer wasn't extremist until college.

[supercutebutt]

He was taught to love deadly firearms by his parents and his right-wing upbringing

[Gwendoline]

@supercutebutt back in the uk its machetes and knives. Im sure if he hadn't rejected his upbringing he wouldn't be in the predicament he's in.

[goaded]

The UK has a lower knife murder rate (which includes all edged weapons) than the US, where they make up fewer than one in 10 murders.

[BadApple69]

You know the U. S. has like 5 times the population… right?

[Gwendoline]

@goaded seems to largely depend where you ate in the US. But it is becoming an increasingly bigger problem despite the strict laws on carrying edged weapons.

[goaded]

@BadApple69 You know what a rate of something is, right? It's the number of, in this case, deaths per 100,000 people, so the relative sizes of the countries don't matter, especially since they're comparable sizes (neither is 10x the size of the other).

The UK has a lower knife murder ***rate*** than the US, where they make up fewer than one in 10 murders. 70% of murders in the US are with firearms, 5% in the UK.

[BadApple69]

58% of gun deaths are suicides…. More than likely if those people can’t use a gun they will find another way. So those shouldn’t be counted as “gun violence”.
Personally I have over a dozen guns and not a one of them has killed anyone. Gun don’t kill, people do. People are violent by nature.

[goaded]

Is it facts or reading you don't like? I didn't say "gun deaths", I said murders. I didn't talk about the absolute numbers (29 gun murders in England and Wales in 2022/23, 12,454 firearm homicides in 2023 in the United States), I talked about rates (0.04 per 100,000 population, vs. 3.74).

As to suicide, it's not true that "they will find another way". Other ways take more planning and are less efficient. Selling drugs in blister packs so that it takes five minutes to collect a fatal dose reduces suicide rates.

Hur dur "Gun don’t kill, people do."; yes, but people with guns kill more people than people without guns (including themselves). One person with guns and large magazines can kill 74 people and injure hundreds. Try that with a knife.

[BadApple69]

@goaded. Great. England is better than the U. S. I’m happy for them. Although they can’t carry guns there. Too bad for them. It’s in our constitution and for that reason I will carry. As per the murders by guns in the U. S. if you remove the gang murders from blue cities there number per 100,000 drop by a lot. Democrat controlled cities is the problem not guns.

[goaded]

How about Baton Rouge, Louisiana? Republican mayor, Republican state, 30 deaths per 100,000.

[BadApple69]

Yes that data was from 2022 when Biden was president. And brought in 15- 20 million illegal aliens. 😉 we can play this game all day.

[goaded]

What the game of I state facts and you lie about them? Yes, I suppose you can.

How do you know what year the data was from? You don't, that's just some more of your lies.

[David318578]

@supercutebutt this is why you should just assume that the liberal media is lying to you when they tell you pretty much anything political.

The guy was living with his trans lover, and was as far from a MAGA as you can get.

[BadApple69]

@David318578 shhhhh…. They don’t want to hear the true. They will just call you MAGA and claim you are a liar and a (pick a phobe) maybe homophobe today. It’s so obvious the shooter was leftist but only someone who can be honest with admit that.
Marxist writing on the bullets
Trans lover (mostly a leftist trait)
Used violence instead of words (leftist trait)
Killed Charlie Kirk. A man that sat in a chair and talked to people who disagreed or agreed didn’t matter to Charlie. That is 100% a leftist thing to do going back as far as Abraham Lincoln.

[goaded]

OMG.

"Marxist writing on the bullets" No.

"Trans lover (mostly a leftist trait)" Yes. In love with someone Kirk fomented hatred against.

"Used violence instead of words (leftist trait)" Yes, and absolutely not. @supercutebutt had it right when she said "He was taught to love deadly firearms by his parents and his right-wing upbringing". Also, "right-wing extremist violence has been responsible for the overwhelming majority of fatalities, amounting to approximately 75% to 80% of U. S. domestic terrorism deaths since 2001. " theconversation.com/right-wing-extremist-violence-is-more-frequent-and-more-deadly-than-left-wing-violence-what-the-data-shows-265367

"Killed Charlie Kirk" Duh, but see above and don't forget the actual elected Democrats who were shot and killed just weeks ago. Lincoln was progressive, on the right side of history, as were all 3 other assassinated US presidents.

[David318578]

@goaded taught to love firearms does not turn you into a murderer, taught to dehumanize our fellow man will.

Its how the left and Democrats have justified things like slavery and wanting the next best thing with illegals and slave labor.

[supercutebutt]

@David318578 He was an extremist, with elements of both extremes coursing through his murderous veins. You should know that far left and far right are basically the same. Learn horseshoe theory. Then realize your cult leader is fanning the flames of hatred and polarizing our once great country. The good news is that anyone who voted for this will spend eternity in Alternative Heaven. 🔥

[David318578]

@supercutebutt right wing extremists are anti LGBTQ.. he was a gay man having sex with a trans woman, thats not right wing extremists, sorry i understand the left wanted to paint him as a maga extremists, but he was a leftist.

Lots of kids grown up with right wing values abd then go off to school and get indoctrinated in left wing ideology. This guy was just another example.

[goaded]

@David318578 Remind me, what did Kirk use to say about gays and trans people?

[David318578]

@goaded and you think his views on gays and trains people are the justification of murdering him? Wow

And for the record he wanted more gay people into the conservative party and was on record saying so. What he said about trans people is that the ideology was a lie and a mental illness issue. Which it is.

[supercutebutt]

@David318578 MAGA is a mental illness. And some of your cultists murder people. They went to the Capitol to murder cops, Mike Pence & Nancy Pelosi on Jan 6. It's always wrong to murder. Murdering is illegal. But It's only conservatives who celebrate gun culture. You know this, yet you conflate. Gay people exist, MAGA fascists exist. Neither is illegal if such people are peaceful.

The Kirk killer wasn't "radicalized" in college. He dropped out of a trade school within weeks of his first semester. It was his 20+ years living in a gun-loving home that radicalized him.

[David318578]

@supercutebutt so just like your fellow leftist all you can do is resort to lies.
Can you name the cops that where murdered on jan 6th please.

The kirk killer was a leftist with leftist ideologies, regardless of how he was raised. He turned into a radical leftist.

[supercutebutt]

@David318578 MAGA cultists murdered Brian Sicknick and beat countless others about their heads and bodies with aluminum baseball bats, hockey sticks, and Trump flagpoles. They drenched them with bear spray and whipped fire extinguishers at them. Some cops had heart attacks. Brian had a stroke. Some losts eyes and fingers. At least 4 committed suicide soon after they were assaulted over Trump's sinful lies of a stolen election.

Stop calling me a liar. YOU are the liar. You can Google the attacks on Jan 6 and see countless hours of footage from every angle imaginable showing the violent rage of MAGA cultists. They went there to kill. They were chanting "Hang Mike Pence." These are all facts and you know it.

I am not a "leftist." I am a centrist who sees right through your vile fascism.

[goaded]

@David318578 "and you think his views on gays and trains people are the justification of murdering him?" No. And you know it.

He also quoted the bible saying gay people should be stoned.

Even if I agreed that being trans is a mental illness, why wouldn't you want the best treatment possible for them?

[David318578]

@goaded then you wouldn't of asked and you know that.

Best treatment for someone with a mental delusional is to not confirm their delusion, thats just insane.

[David318578]

@supercutebutt i ask for you yo back up your lies about Maga murdering people on jan 6 and the only example you gave was Brian Sicknick who died of natural causes because he had a stroke.

So either you knew this and lied about it. Or you believed the lying media about it.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt here and just assume you believed the media.. stop believing the media, they lie to you because they can.

[goaded]

@David318578 Ah, you can't tell the difference between understanding the likely motive of a young man in love from a gun enthusiast family and approving of it. You need to work on that.

"The roommate of the suspect in the killing of Charlie Kirk had one question.

"Why?"

"I had enough of his hatred," Tyler Robinson wrote back. "Some hate can't be negotiated out.""
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7v1rle0598o

[David318578]

@goaded everyone knows the motive, you know the motive and you still asked your question which is a terrible look for you.

The motive is Kirk wanted to talk and have a debate, and the lefts ideology gets crushed in a debate so the only way to beat Kirk was to kill him.

If Kirk was really spreading hate then thats the easiest debate to win, but the left couldn't debate him because he wasn't spreading hate.

[supercutebutt]

@David318578 Beating people on the head with hockey sticks, flagpoles and baseball bats isn't trying to murder? Yes it is. And they murdered Brian, pure and simple. It's time to block your ass. You are vile.

[David318578]

@supercutebutt no Brian died of a stroke, that is a fact of life.

And you making the argument that the side that is pro 2nd amendment and is pro assault rifle decided to start an insurrection and kill a bunch of people but left their guns at home and brought hockey sticks?

The reason that the media lies to the left is because it works, you have a brain. Put it to work..

[loveslongnails]

He wasn't a "bad guy"? Your opinion. He wasn't a good guy in my book.
* He was a blatant Christian Nationalist white supremacist
* He supported the genocide of thousands of kids and adults because he supported what Netanyahu is doing
* He thought black people were unqualified for whatever job they held at the higher levels, but they were ok for flipping your burger and bussing tables. He stated, and this is not a misquote but a paraphrase, that if he were to walk on a plane and see a black pilot, he'd say ' I hope you're qualified".
* He erroneously thought owning guns without restriction were part of his "God given right to freedom", and that the unfortunate "few deaths" annually in the USA from gun violence were worth it for the freedom the 2nd amendment provides
* He helped create and foster environments of hate against any group he didn't like, particularly alphabet people, whom he claimed were "mentally ill"
* He called empathy a weakness; a word created by the liberal left and a woke concept

No, I didn't celebrate his assassination, but I'm not mourning him either.

[Gwendoline]

I know he was a Christian & a nationlist, I dont how thats necessarily bad, i dont see how he was a white supremacist.
The Palestinian thing is a difficult situation. I dont want to see the war to continue but at the same time its the Palestinians who started the war, they could stop it at any time.
I know he didn't believe in DEI. I dont believe in that either.
Not American but most Americans belive that about the 2nd ammendment and to be honest coming from Britain where using any weapon for self defence is banned have a gun for self defence isn't so bad.
A lot of lgbtq people are mentally ill. They have high rates of mental illness. I mean if you wanted to cut off your legs because you didn't like them or thought they weren't right you'd call that a mental illness and people do suffer from that and cut their legs off but people who feel like they are the wrong gender and want to get their genitals cut off and surgery are not mentally ill?
"I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."
The rest of the quote is
"very effective when it comes to politics" and that he preferred sympathy over empathy.
Empathy
the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.
Sympathy
feelings of pity and sorrow for someone else's misfortune.
You know he might be right about empathy, seems like when its used its used to patronise and be disingenuous

[loveslongnails]

If you can't see that he was a white supremacist, you haven't seen his videos or read his words
If you don't understand what "Christian Nationalism" is about, don't comment on it.
If you think that the conflict in Israel was "started by the Palestinians", you know nothing about the history of the region.
If you think empathy is for the weak, you must be weaker than you realize, especially if the ONLY examples you choose to find where empathy is shown are ones where there's political or mental manipulation. ANY emotion or emotive state can be damaging if you allow it to be.
If you think that because "most Americans" believe a thing about the 2nd amendment it makes it a "correct" belief, you don't know anything about Constitutional Law.

As for this: "A lot of PEOPLE are mentally ill" I said that. Not just LGBTQ folks, but cis white folks. You echo Charlie in believing that God despises these people who feel they're in the wrong "bodies", because you don't understand the science or biology of what's going on with them.

I see your posts, Gwendoline. Everything you post is based on your theological beliefs, so you've got a structure for yourself that answers all questions. Even with that, you should be able to find out how much hate Charlie has spewed over the past 10 years by doing some research, but you have not.

[Gwendoline]

You are unable to come forth with anything that disproves what I said. More your personal opinions and that's ok

[David318578]

@loveslongnails do you have any examples of him being a racist?

[goaded]

@David318578 Try searching for "kirk racist".

“If I see a black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.”

– The Charlie Kirk Show, January 23rd, 2024

“If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?”

– The Charlie Kirk Show, December 8th, 2022

“Happening all the time in urban America, prowling blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.”

– The Charlie Kirk Show, May 19th, 2023

“If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because affirmative action?”

– The Charlie Kirk Show, January 3rd, 2024

“If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us... You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”

– The Charlie Kirk Show, July 13th, 2023
www.irishtimes.com/.../

[loveslongnails]

@David318578 LOL Google is your friend. LOOK IT UP !! His own words.

[Gwendoline]

@goaded “We record all of it so that we put [it] on the internet so people can see these ideas collide. When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence. That’s when civil war happens, because you start to think the other side is so evil, and they lose their humanity.”

– Kirk discussing his work in an undated clip that circulated on X after his killing.

You know you quoted him from the Irish new but you never proved him wrong

[loveslongnails]

What does that have to do with the racism, idol worship and hatred towards minorities that he spewed?

[loveslongnails]

@Gwendoline Your cult is so hateful that there are members on tiktok who are calling the employers of those who criticize CK's words, and trying to get them fired. That's what you folks are doing, in the name of God.

[AviatorTom]

HELL NO! I'm still in shock and mourning for him and his family.

A 31yo married man with 2 kids is way too young to have his life taken away, doing what he loved, because the shooter doesn't like him.

All of the hundreds (thousands?) of people who celebrated Charlie Kirk's assassination and thought it was important to post that on social media, need to take a close look at themselves and what they truly believe in.

[Cidknee]

Yeah, it's such a waste. He was a very good person.

[Danny_dan92]

I wouldn’t celebrate it regardless if he was a democrat or being who he was.


Furthermore Charlie was kind to every person he debated. On top of that, he was willing to do the thing that many are either incapable of doing or refuse to do. Which is to have civilized debate with people that have different opinions.


And the liberals that are insane that are celebrating it, claim he was violent. Yeah… every person he debated he only did that. He never physically hurt them, killed them. Etc.


Meanwhile he was killed by a leftist.

[Chazmatazz269]

One of my favorite clips.

https://youtu.be/GmvNI6_qNm8?si=RcRXxi6rr3Y5Qwc5
Kirk is literally none of the things the lunatic left is saying.

[Danny_dan92]

Yeah, in most cases you ask these people to name examples to back their claims and they got nothing. Or, they try to take something he said completely out of context

[loveslongnails]

"Furthermore Charlie was kind to every person he debated." Horseshit. He often told students they were ignorant, college was a scam (some of them are), and they were wasting time and money.

Meanwhile, he was killed by a guy from a maga family. The killer's views are still being debated. Charlies spread a lot of hate in his day, in "God's name" too.

[loveslongnails]

I'm not here to do your homework. I know what he said IN context, and don't NEED to quote him out of context. Just like with any right wing provocateur, your cult constantly claims they do no harm, do no wrong, and are always being taken out of context. No they're not... their context is hate.

[Danny_dan92]

His family were republicans. He wasn’t.

My parents and sister are democrats. I am not. You’re arrogant

[loveslongnails]

Whatever he WAS, we know he was NOT a flaming leftist like your cult wishes to portray him. You all always think that it's radical lefties who do violence, but you don't have the guts to Google the people who sent pipe bombs to Obama & Biden. You ignore the Minnesota killings. You ignore the school shootings by right wingers. Basically, you IGNORE everything that proves your narrative incorrect, like JD said the following:
"it is a “statistical fact” that most political violence in the U. S. comes from the far left, stating, “While our side of the aisle certainly has its crazies, it is a statistical fact that most of the lunatics in American politics today are proud members of the far-left”

Total bullshit. Just look it up. The vast majority of violence stems from right wing crazies. Your only response will be " what about BLM"? 95% of all BLM protests were peaceful, and it's been PROVEN that most of the violence at those demonstrations were started by right wing agitators, purposefully.

You perceive the truth you don't wish to accept as arrogance. Your entire cult does. That's a "you" problem, not mine.

[Danny_dan92]

Then why was he in a relationship with a biological man that was transitioning to a woman?

[WonderingManII]

I didn't know who he was until He got shot. I know wikipedia is not the most reliable source of information, but I often use it as a starting point of research. I'm a Christian, and I read some things about his beliefs that I don't agree with. With that being said, nobody should be shot for speaking what they believe in the USA. This country is founded for religious rights.

[Grond21]

Based on current reporting, everything you read on Wikipedia was most likely twisted. It's rampant.

Do you remember anything in particular?

[Gwendoline]

@Grond21 explain?

[WonderingManII]

@Grond21 I don't agree with Christian nationalism, or Seven Mountain Mandate: "says that evangelical Christians must dominate seven areas of society. " That is NAR New Apostolic Reformation junk. They believe that Christians must take over to prepare for the return of Jesus. If that is what He believed in, then He's misreading the Bible. Christians are supposed to share the gospel of Christ to as many people as He can, so that they have a chance to receive Christ's forgiveness of sins. People who follow Jesus should behave better, and that changes the world for the positive. But it is not about taking over everything like a military would. The NAR is a world wide cult, that uses the Bible out of context to make it fit their ideals. They think that by forcing Christianity then that will make the world a better place. Bring heaven down to earth as Bill Johnson says.

From Wikipedia:
In the 2020s, Kirk was a Christian nationalist who called the separation of Church and state in the United States a "fabrication".[112][113][34][114] In 2024, he said, "One of the reasons we're living through a constitutional crisis is that we no longer have a Christian nation, but we have a Christian form of government, and they're incompatible. You cannot have liberty if you do not have a Christian population".[115] He referenced the Seven Mountain Mandate, which says that evangelical Christians must dominate seven areas of society: government, media, education, business, family, religion, and entertainment.[116][117][114] Appearing at a Trump campaign rally in the same year, he said: "This is a Christian state. I'd like to see it stay that way".[83] Before the 2020s, Kirk had been more secular. He told Dave Rubin in 2018: "We do have a separation of church and state, and we should support that".

[Grond21]

There are reports of him being racist, sexist, misogynistic, etc (the usual lineup of character attacks from the left) supported by clips taken out of context. Same old playbook

[WonderingManII]

@Grond21 There are conservative Christians pushing against the 7 mountain mandate. And what wikipedia describes about it, is what I keep hearing in podcasts.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate

[Grond21]

This is the first I am hearing about this 7 mountain idea, and it looks sketchy. Regardless of whether I am right or wrong, what does that have to do with the post?

[Gwendoline]

@Grond21 dont agree too much with 7 mountain idea but encouraging Christians get involved in family, religion, education, media, arts and entertainment, business, and government isn't the worst idea if Christians want their voices heard.

[Grond21]

I agree with you. Completely. I think we should get involved in these places and spread our Christian ideals. The difference is that the seven mountain thing preaches domination.

[WonderingManII]

@Grond21
@Gwendoline
The only thing I like about Trump is that his administration has been good for Christian rights. But I think he's a sketchy person. A lot of people who are connected to NAR are sketchy. Every time I had to vote, I was merely voting for the lesser of two evils.

If Charlie Kirk was really following the 7 mountain mandate then it kinda makes sense why someone might wanted to kill him. Even if they didn't know what the 7 mountain mandate is. People don't like authoritarians.

[Grond21]

What is NAR?

Charlie Kirk was not following that mandate. He did not like authoritarians either, and he didn't support them.

[Sevenpointfive]

that's right, but don't let your religion interfere with politics. that's why karoline leavitt and pam bondi look like idiots wearing their crosses.

[Grond21]

Politics and morality are inseparable, religion and morality are inseparable, therefore politics and religion are inseparable.

[Sevenpointfive]

@Grond21 gonna have to disagree with you on the religion and morality one. i am not religious but i am very moral. a hell of a lot more moral than any politician (ANY!)

[Grond21]

What you are describing is perfectly normal and an individual, and you are right that it makes sense. After all, anyone can hold a high moral standard, no matter if they are religious or not.

However, you cannot ground a morality of a culture in personal opinion. Only your own morality. But as soon as you try to justify any moral system, you have to move externally, which is where objectivity lies. So if you're trying to create or change a political system based on morality, that would affect the whole society and is not done through authoritarian means, it has to be based on some external system. That's where the religion aspect comes in.

[Sevenpointfive]

@Grond21 i'm not cool with evangelicals trying to bring about the apocalypse so they can fly into the clouds. that's insanity! this is exactly what a certain religious group overseas wants. they want full allegiance. we cannot have religious extremists in power. it is a cult formed by jews a long time ago so we could have their our own little religion separate from Judaism.

it's immoral to do that to the millions of other people that inhabit this planet.

[Grond21]

So if I'm understanding you correctly, you are making two claims here. Both of which I agree with. The first is that certain religious groups should not be in power because of their bad morality. Like the evangelical extremists you're talking about. The second is that it's immoral to impose a morality of the few on the many.

I think the first one is bad when it's the wrong religion, but it doesn't mean all religions would fall into the same bucket. Both logically and historically, it doesn't preclude all religions.

Second, it would be okay if millions of people wanted a particular religious or moral authority over them, correct?

Third and perhaps most fundamentally, you are saying that it's immoral to impose a fundamentalist religion on millions of people. Either you mean that you subjectively feel like it would be wrong, in which case it's nothing more than a feeling, or you are saying it's objectively immoral and shouldn't be done no matter how someone feels. If you're making the latter claim, then you need to be able to justify it objectively.

[Sevenpointfive]

@Grond21 i don't think any religion should be in power. religion is make believe. if someone believes in something like that, it shows me that i can't fully trust them. they aren't capable of seeing reality vs make believe. that should scare everyone

it's the same reason we don't want people with dementia, mental illness and any other cognitive impairment. it's dangerous and it also leads to breaks in the system. morality is what the founding fathers set forth. sure they were mostly christians. and i don't mind a christian non-extremist as a leader. they tend to not ever bring up religion unless for a targeted audience. the point is is that morality is taught to us through many beliefs and all are not the same, but there is a compass!

if the bible belt wanted to be autonomous from the USA then that's great! we kind of did that for the mormons and native americans.

you shouldn't impose your religion on anyone unless they want to hear it. i don't mind learning about other religions. the jews were told many times to give up their religion and adopt the religion of the persecutor or else. sounds immoral to me?

[Grond21]

If religion was make believe, I would agree with you. However, the majority of people in history have been religious, as well as some of the smartest people who ever lived. Saying it is make believe, beggars belief.

I agree you shouldn't force your religion on anyone else. Absolutely. But I can justify that belief from my objective morality. Is yours just your own personal opinion? You said there is a compass which means there must be some objective morality, no? Something that applies to all of us?

It can't be both subjective and objective at the same time.

[WonderingManII]

@Gond21 NAR- New Apostolic Reformation.

Don't just tell me He didn't, prove it. Because based on the information I can find He did. Here is another example:

Based on recent reporting, Charlie Kirk was not a formal member of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), but he aligned himself with and promoted key tenets of the movement in recent years. This shift was a significant change from his earlier emphasis on a secular and libertarian worldview.

Details on Kirk's shift toward NAR-aligned views:

Embracing the Seven Mountain Mandate: By 2020, Kirk began promoting the Seven Mountain Mandate, a core principle of the NAR that calls for Christians to take control of seven spheres of societal influence: government, media, education, family, business, arts, and religion. He specifically praised Donald Trump as a president who "understands the seven mountains of cultural influence".

Launching TPUSA Faith: In 2021, Kirk launched Turning Point Faith, an offshoot of Turning Point USA. This initiative was created in partnership with California pastor Rob McCoy, and its goal was to mobilize pastors and congregations into political action.

Working with NAR figures: Kirk aligned himself with influential charismatic and Pentecostal Christian leaders, some of whom are associated with the NAR. He co-hosted events with pastor Rob McCoy and supported rallies alongside worship leader Sean Feucht, both of whom have connections to the movement.

[Grond21]

Well, given how many people he interacted with the chances of him not meeting someone connected to it are very slim. You make some good points, but they're all anecdotal. I don't think it's enough to build a case, or at least one that's not strong enough to convince me.

But if you're convinced by a then that's fine.

[WonderingManII]

@Grond21 Like I said, early on, I don't know the dude! So I don't know what to believe about him. Let me tell you a little story. There was a Christian apologist by name of Ravi Zacharias. He was considered to be the best Christian apologist and many looked up to him, including other Christian apologists. In 2020 He died of cancer at the age of 74. He was involved in Christian apologetics for over 40 years, authoring more than 30 books. Not long after He died allegations of sexual misconduct came out like crazy. Personally I don't know if what they say is true or not, but some very high profile Christian apologists and other ministers believe them to be true. I loved listening to Ravi answer questions. He basically did much of the same stuff I just saw Charlie Kirk doing in videos. I have been let down my Ravi and other Christian ministers too. All I'm trying to say is I really hope Charlie Kirk really walked the talk when He wasn't in public. In recent years I have seen a pattern of those who have connections to the NAR fail. I don't know what to think about Charlie Kirk. I don't know the man, and just because He does also hung out and was friends with someone I think is still really good, means nothing too. People like Ravi did too, and let those people down as well. This is why I'm always skeptical. Not calling Charlie a bad person, not calling him a good person. Just sad He was murdered, and hope He was really right with Jesus.

[Grond21]

I know the story of Ravi. I enjoyed some of what he said, but eventually it got kind of repetitive, like he was reading off a script. From what I know, the allegations against him were very strong.

Here is a question you need to ask yourself. Are you setting a standard of proof so high that it can never be achieved? If so, then you're not actually seeking trust. You're seeking to never be betrayed again. That's impossible, here on earth.

From everything we know about Charlie, he was one of the best men alive. All signs point to that, both big and small. For me, that is enough. What's enough for you?

[WonderingManII]

@Grond21 Only if I knew Charlie personally would it be enough.

[Grond21]

That sounds like an unpleasant life to live, where you can only trust those you have known personally.

[WonderingManII]

@Grond21 If you lived through the crap I have lived though in my life, then you would understand.

[Sevenpointfive]

@Grond21 yeah. let's add charlie kirk to an amendment. let's call it the charlie kirk amendment. you can't say anything political or you'll get arrested amendment.

and they chip, chip, chip, chip keep chipping away at the documents that outline behavior for us as is relates to them.

[Sevenpointfive]

@Grond21 if anyone on here actually knows who charlie kirk is and not by something that they've read, please let us know. does anyone know this possibly made up youth group minister?

[Billlewis]

No, but my first thought was, that the Dems just made another huge mistake. Of course everyone knows that while neither the Dems in Congress, nor the media pulled the trigger themselves, they are at least somewhat responsible due to their unending inflammatory rhetoric, calling half the country racists, bigots and Nazis, etc.

[BCRanger10]

No. I'm not a monster. In fact, when anyone dies, regardless of who they were and what they had done, and whether I knew who they were, I agreed with them or not, I liked them or not, or whether they would have felt the same towards me, I pray for them. I pray an Our Father, a Hail Mary, a Glory Be, and conclude with "Eternal rest, grand unto him/her/them O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon them. May the souls of the faithful departed through the mercy of God rest in peace." I don't know what was on their heart and mind in the last and even smallest of moments before death, but let it not be said that I did not exercise that charity towards them.

[Paige90]

No! Anyone that celebrates it is evil and sick!

[Jennz6]

@paige90
Well said Paige
💕💕💕

[dragoblack]

No, but i didn't try to treat him as something he's not. Kirk was a monster who encouraged his followers & politicians and justified the attacking, killing, oppressing, lynching, and torture of LGBTQ , women, and people of color. And justified the mass killing of children, while a major advocate of eugenics.
I do feel his kid shouldn't have seen that, and i don't know if his wife shared his views or was abused by kirk into normalizing it. Either way i have 0 empathy for kirk specifically, who created his enemies through his own violence encouraging actions.

[Gwendoline]

Where did he do that and was the LGBTQ member that shot him justified?

[dragoblack]

Go listen/watch kirks podcasts, and congress speeches. And no, it wasn't justified, because he should have gathered people who were attacked and hurt because of kirks influence. The Kid went deep into the darkweb rabbithole (as they have found on his computer) and was more than likely thinking some conspiracy theories where kirk was the source. Kid was raised on maga and radical rightwing mentality, so i wouldn't be surprised. But kid wasn't acting on any party, or paid by anyone, it was just him acting on his own.

[Chazmatazz269]

Literally everything you wrote is a lie. I defy you to produce hard evidence to support any of it.

[strateguy632]

I was shocked. I knew he was controversial because youtube put kirk debates in my feed. He tried to make dialog where people like me can’t make a dialog. And they killed him for it. Sending someone.

[Anonymous]

the Leftists look up to role models like Luigi Mangione, George Floyd, Kilmar Abreo Garcia and the worst scum of society

the poll doesn't do any justice however because the comment section doesn't reflect the poll numbers

[Drumlin2001]

Anyone who celebrates a murder, let alone that of a father to two small children, need to reexamine their moral compass. Not advocating his politics but he didn't deserve that

[CaptainObivous]

I'm not a sick, twisted person. I didn't agree with Kirk on most issues, but give him credit for being willing to debate people he disagreed with. It's just awful US politics has gotten to a point people are celebrating political rivals being assassinated. Can take it with a grain of salt, but I've seen reports on X, that some are taking it a step further and whishing death to Kirks wife.

[BadApple69]

You are correct. I’ve heard leftists wishing the whole Kirk family to be killed. They are sick people!!

[supercutebutt]

Nope. Only the far-right was celebrating. Mr. Kirk wasn't extreme enough for the far-right community. Sad. :(

https://www.newsweek.com/groyper-charlie-kirk-shooting-nick-fuentes-2129114

[Amur8711]

The far-left I think you ment to say. Never seen any far-right celebrating.

[supercutebutt]

@Amur8711 The far right was 100% celebrating because Mr. Kirk, while an extreme bigot, wasn't quite bigoted enough for them.

[Amur8711]

Have proof? How is he a bigot?

[supercutebutt]

@Amur8711 Kirk said he didn't trust black people to work in important jobs. That's the definition of a bigot. Blanket assertions, ignoring individuals. He is in Hell now. Sad.

[Amur8711]

He never said he didn't want blacks to work important jobs. He said he believes a person should be hired in his work ethic and qualifications and be the best fit for the job and not based on the color of their skin.

Still waiting on proof of your allegations!

[supercutebutt]

@Amur8711 www.yahoo.com/.../...rlie-kirk-once-170000805.html

Checkmate

[Amur8711]

Did you even read the article 🤣

[Amur8711]

Its fact checking your statement. He said that about specifically

Kirk was speaking on his show, "The Charlie Kirk Show," on July 13, 2023. He was talking specifically about television presenter Joy Reid; former first lady Michelle Obama; then-U. S. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, a Democrat from Texas; and Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson

[Amur8711]

Checkmate

[supercutebutt]

@Amur8711 Yawn. Kirk was a vile racist and now he's in Hell.

[Amur8711]

False. Still waiting on proof. Maybe you are the racist and so you have to project your racism on to others to make yourself feel better about yourself.

[supercutebutt]

@Amur8711 Ugh. This is why I hate chatting with cultists. Your racism is your baseline and you are incapable of recognizing it. Below is a link. I am done with you now.

theblackwallsttimes.com/.../

[contentious]

They'll be out of here soon enough... Retards always walk head first into traps.

https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1966687137463758962

[KostasKouvalis]

Of course not, but I didn't cry either.

There were some stances I agreed with him on, others I thought were downright moronic. And I thought he was kind of arrogant, but nothing he said or did warrented death

[Anonymous]

Where was your outrage and post when Melissa Hortman was murdered by the right? Here are the amount of posts on her. Don’t see your name there.

https://www.girlsaskguys.com/search?q=Melissa+Hortman&st=2&sp=0&g=all&t=all&b=0&gac=0&tp=

[Gwendoline]

I dont have a question condemning the rape of nankang. Doesn't mean I support it

[Filthy_Immigrant]

obviously not, but I'm pretty sure democrats and leftists did since they saw him as a threat to their delusions

[Cidknee]

Yep!

[Cidknee]

Do you miss me? 😅

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Cidknee Long Dong Silver, is that you?

[Cidknee]

😅 umm, might be rabbit, it might be.

[lightbulb27]

As usual, you are spot on in what you wrote. Agree 100%.

no, that's for the warped of mind and full of hate. Modern day sour souls.

[exitseven]

Liberals are showing just how classy that they are.

[douride2]

Just goes to show how many sick people are out there.

[Chazmatazz269]

Nope. My heart broke. I think i’m still grieving. It’s terrible and everyone who celebrated should be condemned.

[Cidknee]

It seems about a million folks in London all got together to celebrate Charlie's LIFE! I thought it was very sweet.

[Danzigdawson]

<sarcasm alert> Oh yeah, a murder is always a joyous event worth celebrating! </sarcasm alert>

[Cubus]

No. Politics should never go this war.

If people celebrate that people that I dont agree with get killed, then it means we moved back 3000 years to pre-Christian "hate your enemy" mentality.

[SoccerPlayer99]

If it's not ok to celebrate if someone on "your side" is killed then you shouldn't do it to the opposition. It's like we all forgot the golden rule.

[Staximus]

I didn't even know who he was before he was killed. I only celebrate the death of evil people and I don't think he qualified

[itsannalee]

Well I don’t even care if he dies or not, doesn’t effect my life.

[Bricealan]

@Gwendoline I did not know who he was before.

[JesseP1nk]

No! Anyone who celebrates someones murder, should get mandatory mental health evaluation

[Chazmatazz269]

Many would pass with flying colors because they are wicked, not sick.

[FreyaRed]

No. I don't think celebrating any murder is never right. Killing is sometimes a necessary evil but not a deed that should be celebrated.

[Anonymous]

No and anyone who did wasn’t smacked enough as a child , the people cheering this shouldn’t breed and neither should their parents have bred

[Opinion Owner]

Especially one dude on here

[TonyMetal___86]

Option b, everyone who celebrated charlie kirk's death, i hope that they receive the same fate!

[Jeff51]

No. Maybe these people that cheered should be next. Shame in people

[fish5505_87]

I don't celebrate senseless stuff like this, right or left!

[beefcakebradybatson]

Why would I? Even that pr*ck has a family, including a now-fatherless young daughter and son.

[Wiredone]

No. I have a heart. Its sad when anyone dies

[RedInnocent69]

Celebrate makes its sound harsh. I was about as moved as Trump was…

[Sevenpointfive]

i was dancing and as giddy as a dancing israeli watching the towers fall.

[Invasion]

I am not a evil guy who would celebrate some ones death 2 babies lost a daddy😭😭

[Enginn]

He was just 13 days younger than me. It feels good to be alive.

[Cll0y]

Celebrating one's death is not a good thing, nobody deserves to die

[Anonymous]

No but I’m not sad, either. This man was a horrible person. He pretty much hated everyone who wasn’t white.

[Amur8711]

False! Lies, and that's why your Anonymous, coward.

[strateguy632]

Nope he debated fairly with blacks... not hate, who just argued because they thought they had facebook safety , so he couldn't say the truth.
Saying "70% of crimes in u. s. last year were done by bblacks" as Gemini a. i. did, is just a fact, not hate. He was respectful to blackks.

[Paige90]

What are you talking about? Do you even know anything about him? He was a good person who considered everyone equal.

[Chazmatazz269]

https://youtu.be/GmvNI6_qNm8?si=RcRXxi6rr3Y5Qwc5

[RavVid]

It might only be 10% but still concerning.

[msc545]

He was a very bad guy, but there is no way I would ever celebrate the death of anyone.

[Gwendoline]

What was bad about him?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

No and I seriously doubt Charlie Kirk is even saved.

[Gwendoline]

He might have been Catholic like his wife so who knows...

[Paige90]

@hispanic-cool-guy Seriously? Guess you don't have a problem with making judgements

[Paige90]

@Gwendoline He was not Catholic although his wife is.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Paige90: It's things I see in the Bible. Saying you're christian or mentioning the Bible means nothing if you don't try to obey it.

[Paige90]

Where did he not obey it? And is judging if someone is saved or not Biblical?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Paige90: The Bible says God's angel encamps around those who fear Him meaning divine protection.

If you fear God then that also means you obey His word.

Charlie had zero divine protection and got blasted to death.

The Bible says by their fruit you should know them.

Charlie came off as using his platform to sow discord and it got him killed.

[Paige90]

Wow! You need serious help!

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Paige90: Ask yourself does this fit to what happened to Charlie Kirk?

Proverbs 6:12-15:

A worthless person, a wicked man, Walks with a perverse mouth; He winks with his eyes, He shuffles his feet, He points with his fingers; Perversity is in his heart, He devises evil continually, He sows discord.

Therefore his calamity shall come suddenly; Suddenly he shall be broken without remedy.

[Paige90]

No it doesn't. I think it describes you. Also, you need to reflect on Matthew 7:1-5 where Jesus says, "Judge not, that you be not judged."

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Paige90: Be quiet and kiss me through the phone. LOL 💋

[Gwendoline]

Matthew 5:45:
"He makes His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous".

[DrPepper12]

So young. So naive. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Gwendoline]

So you celebrated his death?

[In_Trance]

Doesn't make a difference. It's a fake story. In 2 weeks, nobody will be talking about it.

[Jennz6]

What? Why would you celebrate?

[strateguy632]

Because he said stuff that people hated. They wished he would stop and now he is silent. I hope Charlie had a twitter account or people can host his debate videos on Twitter.

[Jennz6]

@strateguy632
You’re sick

[Chazmatazz269]

@Jennz6, i believe you misinterpreted strateguy’s response.
@strateguy632, Charlie’s podcast went live on schedule with his chair empty on camera. Supporters could comment. I’m sure they are going to leave other openings for supporters to engage in a meaningful way with his legacy. My youtube has absolutely blown up with clips of his debates and podcast appearances. I was only a casual watcher. I never searched his name, but the topics he discussed and debated were of interest to me. Now he’s everywhere, and i don’t hate it. He was so good!

[Anonymous]

No , I don't know this man very well ,
But I am sure so many people will celebrate the death of shetanyahu including me indeed.
He has been turnt into pure devil.

[Opinion Owner]

Turned *

[strateguy632]

Only if you believe those who demonized him. "Turned into devil" does sound like demonize
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/demonize

[EmmaMary]

Absolutely not.

[jshm2]

LOL, you don't know the first thing about that hatemonger. Get an education, kiddo.

[IamRight]

If you are going to answer a question, at least answer it. Did you celebrate when you heard Kirk got murdered? Yes or no

[Gwendoline]

I actually have an education

[jshm2]

It's amazing what you can get from a Big Mac, these days. You should go get a real one.

[Gwendoline]

You wouldn't understand.

[dudeinohio]

Only a squid would celebrate.

[Chazmatazz269]

Shame on you! Squids are actually quite lovable!

[dudeinohio]

Not liberal squids.

[Alex-Snow]

I have no idea who the guy was

[Guanfei]

Nope. Only degenerate would celebrate.

[Med_guy1978]

One may not agree with him but that's freedom of speech and opinion and obviously no one has the right to die for that. I personally don't know much about him but I agreed with the little I heard. Whoever was behind this is probably trying to ignite more tension and hatred between the already divided conservative and liberal population of the US. I'd be careful as we don't want to go towards a civil war scenario.

[Anonymous]

Absolutely not

[OneViewpoint]

I partied like it was 1999.

[LiamJHayden]

Of course not.

[Twalli]

No, but not for the reasons you listed.

[Anonymous]

Never did anyone harm?

[Opinion Owner]

Just to start... his personal non profit paid for 80+ buses that shipped proud boys to the capitol on Jan 6.

No. I did not celebrate. I do not grieve for his loss of influence on the world either.

https://i.postimg.cc/NFV9RQVV/IMG-8633.jpg

[Gwendoline]

Providing transport is hurting people? Think Delta airlines flys in people at 400 at a time are they guilty too?