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Where Did All The Nice Guys Go?

 
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I see this question posted with some regularity in the many personals sections on the internet and what not, so I thought I'd take a minute to explain things to the ladies out there that haven't figured it out quite yet.

What happened to all the nice guys?

The answer is simple: you did.

See, if you think back, really hard, you might vaguely remember a Platonic guy pal who always seemed to want to spend time with you. He'd tag along with you when you went shopping, stop by your place for a movie when you were lonely but didn't feel like going out, or even sit there and hold you while you sobbed and told him about how horribly the (other) guy that you were f***ing treated you.

At the time, you probably joked with your girlfriends about how he was a little puppy dog, always following you around, trying to do things to get you to pay attention to him. They probably teased you because they thought he had a crush on you. Given that his behavior was, admittedly, a little pathetic, you vehemently denied having any romantic feelings for him, and buttressed your position by claiming that you were "just friends." Besides, he totally wasn't your type. I mean, he was a little too short, or too bald, or too fat, or too poor, or didn't know how to dress himself, or basically be or do any of the things that your tall, good-looking, fit, rich, stylish boyfriend at the time pulled off with such ease.

Eventually, your Platonic buddy drifted away, as your relationship with the boyfriend got more serious and spending time with this other guy was, admittedly, a little weird, if you weren't dating him. More time passed, and the boyfriend eventually cheated on you, or became boring, or you realized that the things that attracted you to him weren't the kinds of things that make for a good, long-term relationship. So, now, you're single again, and after having tried the bar scene for several months having only encountered players and douche bags, you wonder, "What happened to all the nice guys?"

Well, once again, you did.

You ignored the nice guy. You used him for emotional intimacy without reciprocating, in kind, with physical intimacy. You laughed at his consideration and resented his devotion. You valued the aloof boyfriend more than the attentive "just-a-" friend. Eventually, he took the hint and moved on with his life. He probably came to realize, one day, that women aren't really attracted to guys who hold doors open; or make dinners just because; or buy you a Christmas gift that you mentioned, in passing, that you really wanted five months ago; or listen when you're upset; or hold you when you cry. He came to realize that, if he wanted a woman like you, he'd have to act more like the boyfriend that you had. He probably cleaned up his look, started making some money, and generally acted like more of an asshole than he ever wanted to be.

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Fact is, now, he's probably getting laid, and in a way, your ultimate rejection of him is to thank for that. And I'm sorry that it took the complete absence of "nice guys" in your life for you to realize that you missed them and wanted them. Most women will only have a handful of nice guys stumble into their lives, if that.

So, if you're looking for a nice guy, here's what you do:

1.) Build a time machine.

2.) Go back a few years and pull your head out of your ass.

3.) Take a look at what's right in front of you and grab a hold of it.

I suppose the other possibility is that you STILL don't really want a nice guy, but you feel the social pressure to at least appear to have matured beyond your infantile taste in men. In which case, you might be in luck, because the nice guy you claim to want has, in reality, shed his nice guy mantle and is out there looking to unleash his cynicism and resentment onto someone just like you.

If you were five years younger.

So, please: either stop misrepresenting what you want, or own up to the fact that you've f***ed yourself over. You're getting older, after all. It's time to excise the bullshit and deal with reality. You didn't want a nice guy then, and he certainly doesn't want you, now.

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reptilia86 Well said, I wish this could be sent to every woman so they could appreciate us more :) - More than a year ago
katiesmuff Amen! I thank my stars every day that I woke up and realized that the jirks I was in relationships with were only after one thing, and usually got it. I now have a boyfriend who is wonderful and wouldn't trade him for the world - More than a year ago
nusoulmusic PREACH!!!! PREACH!!!! Lord knows how many times I've seen guys turned down because they were "too nice." But the dude that was cheating and being a complete jerk was what they were looking for. After they have been used and abused, they want to look for the nice guy. And this is the PERFECT answer!!!! Well said!!!! - More than a year ago
Thanatos Heck yes! Every female needs to read this. I've had so many girls used to treat me like this, heck, even if I didn't have feelings for them and was just being a friend, they only called when they needed something. I've moved on from them all, may they rot for all I care. - More than a year ago
Just-A-Random-Guy Good story, and, unfortunatly, all too true. :( - More than a year ago
Lidepi Thanks for all the support guys, clearly I was not at my best when I wrote it. Maybe some females will take notice and things will change, although it seems highly unlikely. - More than a year ago
trickstir85 Good article. My best friend is a really nice guy...and I am really nice girl. Problem is that he rather go for sex-on-legs (pretty hot girls who make fun of him anyways). Agreed, girls tend to do this more often..but, even guys can be equally as bad. My best "nice" guy friend is amazing...but, he thinks all girls wants jerks. We dont. - More than a year ago
blaznn I couldnt have said it better myself!! this is the truest article ive read on here. I go through this with every girl I like, I wish sometimes they would get their heads out of the dumb asses and realize this. I hope you don't mind I'm going to keep this article and send it to some of those girls who will never grow up. - More than a year ago
dowmop I think you take a very juvenile attitude toward the nice-guy problem. Maybe in high school you'd be right, but actual women *love* nice guys. Granted, as a nice-guy, I don't have the sex appeal that a lot of dangerous guys do, so it's harder for me to get my foot in the door. But once it is, I have the opposite problem of girls getting to clingy too fast.

Plus, I think it's much better to be rejected outright for being "too nice" than be with a girl who secretly harbors that attitude. - More than a year ago
Gia65 Unfortunately, most woman are attracted to the bad boys! It isn't until you get a bit older and realize what is important .......then you like the attentive guy who will hold your hand.........who is calm, caring, knows how to communicate................ - More than a year ago
wildd Hahaha! ohhh shit I love this! But just so everyone knws... I have never, so far, acted like an "ass bitch" to any of the nice guys I DO knw! So this is a great heads up!

Good-Job person Lidepi :D - More than a year ago
Lidepi A juvenile attitude? You yourself just agreed with what I said by stating that you have a hard time getting your foot in the door. This article isn't meant to apply to every situation and every stage, but its saying that as a nice guy its harder to get and keep a relationship short term.

Also, take a look at my age. I'm sure it doesn't apply to older individuals, but it applies to me. I'll write another article once I'm older about how I feel. Thanks for the feed back. - More than a year ago
gggggggggf Dude, women can't help what they're attracted to any more than you can. While you were making doe eyes at the hottie who had her choice of men, there were three other less good looking women who were wondering why none of the boys were interested in them. Where were you? Ah yes, chasing after a girl out of your league.

And when those women say that they want a "nice guy", they don't mean you. - More than a year ago
catcher-in-the-rye Sorry to hear you weren't at your best when you 'wrote' this. Were you in better shape when you stole it from Craigslist?
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/483318927.asp - More than a year ago
Dives I saw this on Reddit like last year... Originally it was posted on craigslist...

http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/483318927.html

Plagiarism is so not cool. :( - More than a year ago
tizen Created an account just to reply to this article.... Wow, excellent insight. I wasn't fully on board with what you were saying at the beginning, but the end is spot on. Ya, I was one of those nice guys. I had a girlfriend that pushed me away, so she could be with an asshole. This taught me to be an asshole. Now I'm an asshole, married with two kids. My wife is miserable and still wants me. My ex-girlfriend is miserable, and wants me back.

Women do not teach men to be anything but assholes. - More than a year ago
tizen Oh and I suppose I should indicate that my previous comment was directed at the original writer of this story. Not the plagiarizing half-wit who posted this here. There is solace in knowing I found this out before I rated the article.

1 star. - More than a year ago
haywire This pretty much sums it up. I think the balance is where guys have to reach maturity and develop confidence, but girls have to stop using people (intentionally or not). - More than a year ago
Lidepi I live in Los Angeles, and I originally wrote this less then a year ago. I realize it appeared on craigslist, and I have the original email responses of people nominating the post for "best of". - More than a year ago
Cyberdog900 YES! It is true, it is true as it is written. Ladies, take notice!

For Trickstir85: It sounds like your friend already "shed his mantle"....

Some girls get it though. I'm with a wonderful girl right now, that was looking in all the wrong places for what she now claims I am, the best man in the world. I love her to bits, even if though it took her a while to realize it... - More than a year ago
Mr-Higgins So true on so many levels.

Women (and even men) who have their heads stuck up their arses don't even deserve the attention of the nice guy (or nice woman).

I was the "nice guy" up until a few years ago. Now I am the total asshole as told by most people. Yes, I'm getting action like you wouldn't believe, but, I find it quite boring honestly. - More than a year ago
pinkbutterfly Good article. but you know, same can go for guys, and it often does. There is plenty of guys who prefer some brainless hottie over a nice girl because that was they can seem cool.Girls see that and begin asking questions like " oh, do guys like nice or naughty, wild?" Then they try to become what they think guys really want, and then, become girls you've described above. So, I think everything depends on how mature the person is, not whether it's a guy or a girl. - More than a year ago
A-R-Norman Fair to an extent--but at the same time, men are just as guilty of this. I was a nice girl who men didn't want to be with, I suppose because I wasn't aggressive enough. I met and married a nice guy and so did a lot fo my friends. As I have said in my previous posts, it is not that women don't want a nice guy, it is that they want a certain type of nice guy just as a ,man wants a certain type of nice girl--besides, are we not to blame for our folly of letting someone abuse our love? - More than a year ago
A-R-Norman Also--people need to start learning from their dating mistakes and stop blaming the world--men claim women make men pay for their past mistakes , but when guy turn into a jerk cause he got burned, he is doing the same thing. At least to female credit, when they decide to grow up and want nice guys that is what they look for, whereas men get angry and bitter and try to make all women pay for one bitch who broke his heart as apposed to sucking it up and learning to grow. - More than a year ago
jcycler Amen, brother. Amen. - More than a year ago
acealmighty13 This sounds like where I'm at right now. I'm on the fringe with her. She's my best friend and she recently got cheated on and she tried to work it out(which I applaud her for trying). I've been there for her through thick and thin. Now single, she turns me down because she doesn't see me in the romantic sense. But she loves me. In the platonic sense. Great article and I'm a nice guy that's not gonna become the asshole because of a woman just to get laid. - More than a year ago
A-R-Norman Thanks ace--I wish most men were mature enough to just accept that they need to simply just move on and not punish every woman out there for their own mistakes in judgment... - More than a year ago
GoodManDave If you plagarized this article, you need to stop.

I think I figured certain things out; at least to a small degree.

I want a woman. Not a girl. The females you are describing are not women but girls. There can be 18 year old women, and 30 year old girls.

Great women are rare, and they usually get "snatched up" quicker than the guys because of the way our culture is. It won't stop me from looking. I just hope I don't become bitter and nasty with all the waiting and pain. - More than a year ago
Forgetable The part that gets me the most is typically they'll even turn to that nice guy they're with after their boyfriend treated them like crap and likely dumped them and say "where are all the nice guys in the world" as they are comforted by a nice guy. I feel as though you hit the nail on the head and you did so in a very eloquent manner, thank you. - More than a year ago
ns-para Hahaha...awesome!
- More than a year ago
wally You just read my mind my only wish is that Any woman say WHERES THE NICE GUYS ????
SHE SHOULD READ THIS AND START TO REMEMBER WHAT SHE DID IN THE PAST !!!!!!! - More than a year ago
A-R-Norman Amen Good man Dave--AMEN! - More than a year ago
A-R-Norman I just has to respond to this part "You used him for emotional intimacy without reciprocating, in kind, with physical intimacy. " So does giving kindnesses automatically mean you get sex? If my guidance counselors listen to me, does this mean I owe him sex? can't you simply do something nice without wanting to get laid--how does this make you a nice guy at all? And if this was the case you were NEVER that girls friend but a liar and manipulator waiting for a shot to get laid. - More than a year ago
Lidepi I said emotional intimacy, meaning that when something goes wrong you always go to the guy for support. I think this is much different from your example of a guidance counselor. This is the guy that you hang out with everyday, sharing all your deepest emotions with. And no, it doesn't automatically mean that you have to have sex with any guy that's nice to you, that's not what I'm trying to say. This was written with someone very specific in mind, not as a mold to fit every girl into. - More than a year ago
Wtfgirl I agree to this, not whole-heartedly but mostly yes. I kind of found my way out of the relationship with the jerk boyfriend and into one with the nice guy who helped me whenever my ex had hurt more or everything else you said. I thank you for opening the eyes of many other girls. - More than a year ago
A-R-Norman But you made it appear as if you are going to make every girl out there pay because you made an error in judgment. Not all women are playing games if they don't want to give it up to the first guy who is kind--the mature thing to do is move on when you see she isn't interested and don't give of your self until you know the girl likes you back, not become an asshole with an ax to grind with girls. Do some women use men? yes--men use women too! We live and learn--not seek vengeance... - More than a year ago
cross1022 Bingo my friend. - More than a year ago
Lidepi I guess its just my experience. I've dealt with far more women that fit this perfectly than not and that's where this generalization comes from. Sure, its definently overexaggerated, but that's meant for people to look at and think about even more. I mean, clearly its causing a lot of people to stop and think, and that's what I aimed for in the very beginning probably about 4 years ago now. - More than a year ago
MisterMan I was the nice guy growing up, always seen as the brother-like figure, never boyfriend material. Luckily I found a Lady who appreciates this Nice Guy.
Good Article. - More than a year ago
A-R-Norman I suppose what gets my goat is that if a woman came on here and said "I got burned by an asshole, and because of that, I will tell all women to treat men like the jerks they are!" then you and all the men in here high-fiving you would be calling her a bitter, angry bitch.

why--she is sayign nothign no differnt then what you are.

Bsides, I was otssed aside by guys who cahsed afrter bond bimbos--I kenw I coudl give them the lvoe they desires--they called me thier "friend" while they kept gettig - More than a year ago
A-R-Norman Damn this writing template--anyway--what I was saying was, guys are JUST as guilty of chasing girls who look a certain way and not caring about the inner person --until they get burned by the heifer--then they want to become vindictive. what you are doing is destructive, not constructive.

why is it your idea that you are supposed just be handed any girl you want? some guys have it easier--so what? - More than a year ago
A-R-Norman You don't think it pisses me of that some blond chick can get promoted ahead of me or some guy catered to a low life girl who played games while I sat at home dateless--I was THIRTY-FIVE when I finally met the man I wanted--what are u, 21? WTF?. You are not going to get what you want- just handed 2 you--and a girl isn't obligated to like you just because you are NICE--you have to be compatible--share the same goals...all you did was make men angry about a situation they cannot control.. - More than a year ago
A-R-Norman Besides, don't you think it is entirely possible that you, like the women you trash, keep making the same dumb choices in woman for the same unenlightened reasons and that is why you have had bad experiences. why a are you telling men be jerks because shallow girls do shallow things? There is a battle going on between the sexes and telling men to be assholes is not the way to stop the war or to foster communication -- it is only a call for revenge...and on to my final note - More than a year ago
A-R-Norman What you should be saying is you won't waste another moment on a girl like that, even for revenge, and you will reserve all the kindness, door opening and flower giving to the girl who loves you, appreciates you and treats you like a king as I do my own "nice" man. Sure--Chad may get all the babes, you may be 35 when it happens, but who cares! Wouldn't you rather have something real than to say you scored with 100 brainless Buffy's? Think about THAT and get off the bitter rants...! - More than a year ago
A-R-Norman Oh yeah--men who hi-five about this article are high five-ing misogynistic, bitter, woman hating HATE SPEECH... - More than a year ago
Lidepi Clearly people agree with what I'm saying, even women. This is an overexaggerated story meant to overtly point out some truths that women share. This is more of a satire on how shitty women treat men than a nonfiction story.

Most women are horribly shallow, especially at my age. You are thinking in the generation in which you grew up, and I'm sorry but its outdated and you have not experienced the new generation of college age kids in america. - More than a year ago
Lidepi And I should also point out that you say men shouldn't expect things handed to them for good personality or whatever, but women expect that everyday. Not even for personality, but just based on the fact that they're WOMEN. And to top it off, good looking women expect things handed to them just for their good looks.

You've got to take a step back and realize that I've pointed out some pretty accurate things, and apparently you have a problem with how society is right now because that's it. - More than a year ago
NMMan Am I the only one who thinks this article actually perpetuates the "nice-guy syndrome" by taking the blame from the people where it belongs? Yes, sometimes flaky women will dismiss good guys, but more often than not because the "good" ones are creepy, needy or insecure (usually all three). Women want secure, confident guys who will truly respect them, and it's clear this bitter author has both a hatred of women and a martyr complex that would humble Jesus Christ. For your own sake and that of your future happiness, grow up. - More than a year ago
Undercoverlover This letter is one of my favorites as I share it with many of my female friends. Being 32 and friends with a very large group of VERY attractive younger women, I hear about this scenario all the time.
Today it's true many women and men alike are shallow. Seems some people look at a significant other as a fashion accesory or confidence builder versus a soulmate. I noticed though, the ones who hate this letter ARE the shallow ones! "You want the truth? Well YOU can't HANDLE the truth!" J.N - More than a year ago
Talbot Simply amazing story and so very true - More than a year ago
Talbot For those of you complaining about this article, I believe it 100% depicts what happens to people not just men but woman also and the ones who read this article and have gone through what it describes will not automatically seek revenge on the opposite sex for the stupidity of the ones who treated us like this article says but hope that it helps the ones who treated us that way to grow and learn from their mistakes - More than a year ago
dasouthernicon This is just straight up truth on this matter. But the same could be said for the "nice girls" and their frustration. I have read this several times, and it made me smile each time I did.... - More than a year ago
AlexRoz Wow... dude this is right on. I couldn't have said it better myself except I'm still the Platonic buddy, I liked your use of words lol. Anyways awesome job man. - More than a year ago
saulito Right on the money. when I read this article it was like a reality check. I wrote an article myself but its not as well written as this - More than a year ago
totallychaotic Oh my gosh. This almost made me cry! I totally feel for that just a friend guy. And I totally think that women do this! (At least the ones with guy friends.) I think the problem is that most women are attracted to the romantics of heartache. They want to feel hurt and wallow in self pity. I say that those women should get over themselves. Those are the girls who've never had issues dating and can easily overlook the nice guy that they 'want'. - More than a year ago
jasgreen23 I'm a woman and you just said a mouthful of truth that a lot of women should have figured out along time ago. Loved it. OMG you're so right. I also would love to add. Women try being a nice girl and just maybe you can bring that nice guy back out. I also loved what gggggggggf said about guys going doing the same thing. You're chasing the girl everyone in the world wants, but not the girl that lives down the street. That knows more about you then anyone, because you grew up together. - More than a year ago
Sceptical112 I don't think I overlook nice guys. In fact, I have a crush on one. But to a degree this article is true for both genders, women tend to do this more to the nice guys. Realistically speaking, there are many times when being nice is not what makes a girl's heart throb for a guy. Honestly speaking, I don't think I do this. I honestly do believe I fall for the nice guys.

When I first start to like someone, I try to figure out his flaws first to see if I can handle it. accept them. - More than a year ago
harley155 They all got scared away from the women they treated great and still got burned by them. My 1st girl I was terrible to. But, as I matured and realized I didn't want a mate to be disrespected. I got disrespected in return from the new one. Call it Karma or what have you. I'll probably deserved it from my past. But, now I'm jaded and the next girl needs to show me I mean a whole lot more to her than the last one that left me to go back to some loser ex that doesn't work and has a crack problem. - More than a year ago
IWANTWHATIWANT 2 words! Paleeeeeease! and Pathetic!
I supposed every woman owes this puppy dog her life. Women need someone who they have chemistry with. Wake up dude! These nice guys pursued these girls for superficial reasons of their own and then they want to throw it in womens faces for not choosing them!? Have your pity party by yourself about not being able to attract the hot girl! - More than a year ago
IWANTWHATIWANT People are going to love who they love. Just because a woman didn't choose the red headed step child who doted after her all these years does not make her and ass. It makes her a woman who is conscious of what she wants rather than just settling for what's in front of her just because it offers her emotional security. Remember, we want the whole package too. - More than a year ago
whateveryousay In some ways it is true. But it also goes the other way around. I stopped dating for 2 years after a heart break, finally trusted someone again, that supposedly was a very sweet guy, treated me great, then one day he just stops talking to me. He went back to his ex that cheated on him. It made me realize that men just love b***hes. So basically, when you meet a bi**ch just know that there is some "nice guy" that made her that way. - 11 months ago
adrianereeder Hey Bro, man your story is so right on, Forget all these haters saying this isn't true. I'm a very nice guy who treated his past girlfriend/fiance with so much love and respect. we dated for 5 years, I never hit her, o verbally abused her. I never cheated on her. I treated this girl like a queen. She told me after 5 years of dating she doesn't love me enough to get married. She has bone and joint problems. I am always there for her, but It seems to nicer I am, the more I try she hates it. - 11 months ago
vinny Amazing.. ur right.. that sh*t is for immature girls and immature women.. I read another article that talked about why nice guys finish last.. it said they finish last because they are boring and girls don't want a boring guy they want excitement.. hahah my take on it is.. boring is much better than disloyal... and I met this one girl who won't shut up about her ex.. bad mouthing him and telling ME she cares about him.. I'm like. yo.. IM right infront of u.. why ru bitchin about some loser.. -__- - 11 months ago
the-love-guru Well, what about the women who only fall guys who are much older and/or married? 90% of the time, I find out after I start liking the guy that he is married. It's like a curse! I guess it's because they're already highly attuned to what a woman needs and wants... and he's got the "provide for my woman" bit down. It's all a matter of attraction.

Don't even get me started on the "nice guy" conversation. That would be a long-winded battle of keyboards. - 11 months ago
here4you Yea even tho I skimmed thru ur article
ur totally right
i mean I'm a nice guy and have never treated a girl badly
and if I did I said sorry and apologized
but all the time the girls use me
& then they say "why do guys treat me so horribly"
& I wanna say "cause you treat me so horribly even tho you know I'm here for you u just take advantage of me"
but always say something else

& when you said "See, if you think back...you, he'd" no doubt ur right
& say I want a niceguy but want bad boys spontanou - 10 months ago
mmgood313 Wow. That's totally me and I occasionally want to shoot myself in the head because I shot myself in the foot. :/ - 10 months ago
dasouthernicon Always did like this one here, no matter where I read it. most of this is true. But, ladies, you DO have a part to play in it, just as the so-called nice guys do. Ladies, grow the hell up, take responsibility for ur actions, take control of ur life.. and by God, stop settling for these morons who call themselves 'bad boys'... I say the same for the fellas- they need to quit bitchin bout these females who dnt want 'em. Who in their right mind wants sumbody who dnt want them? - 9 months ago
Ambersolovely This is a great article lol.Very TRUE - 9 months ago
worksexlove SPOT ON! Kudos, to whoever wrote this.

I'm totally for open expression, but for above commenters, it's not always necessary to equalize extremes....I think the bimbo conception is far more ramprant, and therefore, goes without saying.
- 8 months ago
xpxp2002 You speak the truth. Unfortunately I don't have it in me to change and become one of them. I can move on, but instead I've mostly moved on to nothing...because I know changing into that isn't morally right and there is nowhere else to go. So I wait...and may possibly forward this on to a few girls I happen to know. If anyone has an alternative to waiting, the Articles section of this website is waiting for you. ;) - 7 months ago
xpxp2002 And I believe everyone who has read this will appreciate this as well: http://www.xkcd.com/513/ - 7 months ago
jbone79 I like this. It tells the story from a male perspective, yet I believe this story is Unisex in it's content. It tells of how far the superficiality in our culture really goes. I'm glad I was turned down by the first woman to reject me. Every person plays their part and all the world is a stage. It's how we decide to digest rejection. Some are made into men who find greatness, others become monsters that leave the world asking, "How did it come to this". - 6 months ago
roughneck707 Perfect. - 5 months ago
rainydaydreamaway And here's where all you nice guys start to hate me. I have been interested for about 3 years in a guy who most would consider a true geek. He's chubby, older than me and could use a wardrobe update from somewhere other than Home Depot. But he is a good guy with a big heart. He's super bright, very humble, dry deadpan sense of humor which I love and we can connect on just about any subject, especially music. And he obviously thinks I'm hot and has made his attraction known. I have asked him out, - 4 months ago
rainydaydreamaway And emailed him, given him cds and guitar pics I got from a favorite artist of both of ours... given him every go signal there is... and no go. Now I've moved on, sort of, though I'd still go out with him if he asked and I know he wants to, hints about it in his emails, but hasn't. And I know it's about confidence, which I've sincerely tried to boost by letting him know what I like about him. But he won't make a solid move. How long does he think I should wait? - 4 months ago
Snorkledorf Rdda, if he's as you described him, he probably just has no gut feeling for when/how to suddenly take the offensive. You said you've asked him out -- did he turn you down flat or something? When I was inexperienced and inept, it took my first girlfriend breaching my space by resting her head on my shoulder "out of the blue" before I got a clue. And even then she had to escalate it to first kiss without a whole lot of help from me... Inexperience carries a lot of inertia, but once we got going... - 4 months ago
Elaine25 Bitter much? - 3 months ago
joshtheturtle I never knew girls disliked guys for being too nice!

@rainydaydreamaway: I agree with Snorkledorf. There's nothing wrong with making the first move! - 2 months ago
drummerdude25 Agreed 110%

Great article... - 2 months ago
Standingpretty My first boyfriend and love was exactly what you just described: Followed me around like a lost puppy, was there for me when I was emotionally hurting, and always tried to take care of me. Then, after of almost 2 years of dating he dumped me because people told him I was too clingy. Even if you date a nice guy he can still turn into an asshole. - 2 months ago
 
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Girls, if you were a guy, how would you effectively pick up girls in the club?
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I don't know how, all I can think about is alcohol, but girls don't like to get drunk by stranger guys.

I think for a guy to do this he needs to be very in shape, like top notch, and even then is not for sure.

Everybody thinks is confidence, but now that I think about it, most of us already have guys that bang us, we don't need other guys, sorry.

I don't know why guys think this is so hard, in my opinion if I was a random guy it would be very easy to do this because I know how to specifically to talk and act around girls. My detailed explanation about how is below.

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