7 Reasons Why I Dislike Women Who Believe Guys MUST Pay On The First Date

This is a response to this MyTake here actually.

Anyway, I mean those who believe, the guy MUST do it, and if he doesn’t then it’s the #1 deal-breaker. If I learned that a woman is like that, then it would be the #1 deal-breaker for me.

And before we start, yes I’m a thrifty guy (you call it cheap), and I’m very proud of it.

(In alphabetical order)

1) Chances are she likes gentleman guys

You know she will demand from you, to pull her chair when she’s about to sit, to give her your jacket if she feels cold, to open the door for her, and all those things. Paying for the dates is one of those gentlemanish traits.

2) It's Not Only The First Date

Do you really believe it will stop only on the first date? I don’t think so. If in case you say, I will pay what I eat and you will pay what you will eat…well chances are you will receive a slap on your face.

3) It smells traditionalism

Traditionalism smells worse than a drunk’s person fart, to put it bluntly. Those are the women who prefer gentleman guys and also the guys who have lots of money. A traditional woman will be a stay-at-home mom for sure in the future. And of course she will demand from you to have sex after you get married. Not to mention, she wouldn’t like to know you, if in case you don’t want to be married and have kids. To those kind of women, the biggest success in life, is to have a family. Stay away from those women, if you respect yourself.

4) She's After Your Money

To her, guys must have a bigger wallet, than a bigger…well you know what. The other’s size doesn’t matter for her. As long, as he can reproduce of course.

5) She might comment on your dressing code

I don’t think such a woman, would ever accept you being dressed casually. You must wear suits and ties, every time of the year.

6) She wants the man to buy her everything she wants

She likes generous guys. Those guys who are nothing more than her puppet actually. Those blind fools who fell for such a woman, and buy her everything she wants, when she laughs behind his back.

7) She will comment about your friends

Do you really believe she will ever let you to have friends from lower society classes? No you must have friends from the good, high society only, and only those who are gentlemen too.


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  • 2mo

    You're stereotyping a woman based on your ability to put forth a kind gesture and pay? I find you making huge assumptions off of something that should be very small.

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    • 2mo

      It should be very small, but people (men AND women) are making a huge deal out of this for some reason.

      It's 2016, split the bill, move on.

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    • 2mo

      Lol women getting triggered for saying his opinion is hilarious.

    • 2mo

      He's not stereotyping based of his actions. He's stereotyping based on girls' expectations of what he should do.

  • 2mo

    I already read the original take and thought it was shit.

    I read this one expecting a good comeback but this one is shit too.

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  • 2mo

    Okay, so after doing some thinking, I've came to a conclusion of how I think about this topic.

    One gender should not be obligated to pay for the other gender. One gender is not entitled TO having their meal paid for on the first date. BUT when you do decide to go the extra mile and pay for their meal, you should be doing that because you LOVE and CARE for the person, not because of bullshit excuses like "it's traditional" or "it's the gentlemanly thing to do.

    That being said, whoever invites who out should pay for the meal. That or splitting the bill is the way to go in my honest opinion.

    P. S. Take Owner, don't hate an entire gender just because some of them are bad apples.

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    • 2mo

      I never said I hate an entire gender.

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    • 2mo

      @RainbowFanGirl I know, I make the first move all the time. But most women still don't. I still get weird looks when I tell a friend "why don't *you* ask him out?".

    • 2mo

      I agree. Well except for the love and care part. You can't love or care for a stranger. The rest , I agree with you. It is 2016, not 1800's.

  • 2mo

    Good christ, who in the world have you been dating to come up with "she will demand from you" and "you must wear.." and this one: "chances are you will receive a slap on your face"?

    Demanding, forcing, slapping... wow! You have been dating assholes. I would try talking to a girl first before the actual going-out part so you get a vibe whether or not you're going to be spending time with someone abusive.

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  • 2mo

    Actually I believe that the guy usually pays for the first date since he's THE ONE WHO ASKED U OUT... But in general I hate when people pay for thing for me so I always pay my own way no matter the situation

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  • 2mo

    She want me to paid for the first date so she's like this. You can't generlize.

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  • 2mo

    I would definitely offer to pay my half. I felt like expecting the guy to do so is ridiculous. If he offers to pay for me then I want to know that he's doing so because he wants to do it for me and not because he feels obligated to.

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  • 2mo

    Wow, that women was so sexist (@takenchic). It actually makes me somewhat angry.

    It's 2016, just split the bill unless one person clearly has less money. And sure, you could say things like "whoever invites, pays". But that's not equal, because women still won't ask men out, so they won't end up paying anyway.

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  • 2mo

    This is a joke

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  • 2mo

    I would go on a date with a guy i liked and if he didn't pay, whatever. If he does offer to pay im not going to turn it down though. Its just a kind gesture for your lady friend, it doesn't make or break anything. What breaks it is if the guy acts as though his money is too good or too important to spend on me. If he doesn't have it (or if he dpes have it but needs it for more impprtant things than a date) thats one thing. But if he is against paying just because he thinks im not good enough to pay for then what does that say about what he thinks of me?

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  • 2mo

    This is the most bizarre thing I've ever read. I believe a guy should pay for the first date especially if he asked her to go out, but all the other things that you claim are true about me are absolutely not.

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    • 2mo

      Why should the guy in particular pay?

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    • 2mo

      @Thisisstephypotter FYI I'm heterosexual, I don't date women.

      I split the bill with my boyfriend on the first dates. I understand why you like chivalry, but the one-sided chivalry that you're into is unfair to the guy.

    • 2mo

      It is not on the same boat , as the phyiscial aspects you mentioned. That is just human nature. Man wants to protect woman. Money, well everyone makes money. One way I think first dates both should pay each their own. You are getting to know each other. You are not even sure it will work out. So why pay for a maybe? But, What I do , if I ask woman out ill offer to pay.

  • 2mo

    Agree. These are usually the girls who want gender equality in every aspect except for when it suits them (having things paid for them.)

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  • 2mo

    I suppose I will address each one of your points separately.

    1. It's gentlemanly. Yeah, I think so, but what is wrong with having an appreciation for guys that are gentleman? A gentleman is loving & respectful of the woman he is with. There's no way being a gentleman is a bad thing. To me a person who isn't a gentleman is someone who sleeps around, someone who is mean, abusive, negative. Someone who yells and puts down their partner, never shows affection and disrespects them. Why would anyone want to be with someone like that?

    2. My boyfriend and I split dating costs all the time. Sometimes I treat him, sometimes he treats me, other times we just take care of our own costs. Paying for the first date doesn't mean pay for everything including my mortgage. Like what kind of logic is that?

    3. Traditionalism. What's wrong with that? A traditional woman to me possesses traits like kindness, warmness of heart, nurturing, loving, intelligent. A traditional woman to me is sweet and a pleasure to be around. Not vulgar and abrasive.

    4. I could care less about your money, but I'm certainly not going to be dating someone who has done absolutely nothing with your life. I don't mind helping a man build. I helped my boyfriend get his very first job at my job, and for a good while I paid for things. But I'm definitely not dating someone with no ambition in life.

    5. It's perfectly fine to dress casually. I don't expect anyone to wear a suit and tie everyday of their lives but I also don't want him not combing his hair, showering, ironing his clothes etc. I had to comment on my boyfriend's attire at one point. I try to look good for him so he could feel good about being with me, I'd expect the same thing. It shows you care and are putting in effort, at least the same efforts that I am.

    6. I want quality time with you more than anything else.

    7. If you have bad friends you have bad friends. I want what's best for you, a woman who doesn't love you would care less. by the way. Social class and quality of person are to different things. Class is irrelevant to whether or not you're a good human being.

    Also having a family is one of my greatest goals and I'm going to school for nursing. You can be traditional and still work. There's such a thing as a working housewife. I grew up in a very distant, broken and dysfunctional family. I want nothing more than to provide children with a home filled with love and care like they're deserving of.

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    • 2mo

      For me you are traditional and nothing more.

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    • 2mo

      A woman who stays at home all day, say yes to everything her husband says, and ask her husband's permission, even if she wants to go to the toilet.

      Plainly... pathetic.

    • 2mo

      Hmm, we have different idea of what traditional and housewife mean.

  • 2mo

    I'm traditional in the sense I want a family when I grow up. but whats wrong with that?

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    • 2mo

      Sounds VERY boring to me. VERY VERY boring...

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    • 2mo

      No technology, health care, anything really. Hell that's what it's like with gold

    • 2mo

      Nothing wrong with that! He's not questioning that, he's questioning gold digging

  • 2mo

    Man this is becoming a dead horse topic already. We get it.

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  • 2mo

    lol, u call urself cheap and u even proud of it... u also so shallow! u can call urself pussy-what girl would want to date a pussy?
    girls need a MAN and real man have no problem to pay for girl on date.
    1st it act of politeness -u invited her-u pay...
    2nd -u show her u interested in her

    usually on the 1st date no one eat a lot... i have no problem to pay for my coctail and salad, but never any man i was on date with let me do it...
    my boyfriend on the 1st date even told me "dont worry about money-u can order whatever u want

    if i ever met a girl like and he asked me to pay- i ll pay no problem, but it would be the last time he sow me

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    • 2mo

      i agree with the you invite you pay thing but you are 27, why do you type like this?

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    • 2mo

      It's easy to say "you invited her so you pay", but how often have you asked a man out? Probably ZERO times. But hey, don't come crying to me when you can't find a good man.

    • 2mo

      @Kirah
      "But hey, don't come crying to me when you can't find a good man." loool, and who r u for me to come to u, if i may ask?
      if u can't find a good man, doesn't matter everyone can't too! thats just ur problems! and if guys never pay 4 u, its just ur jealousy, not more!
      i dont need to find a good man, i am married one and expecting a baby from him. And what do u have?

  • 2mo

    I am traditional as fuck but I am against anyone paying for me

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  • 2mo

    This is very simple. When you go out on a date... just simply tell the waiter to split the check. If she gets pissed... well you will know she is one of those girls you dont want and get up and leave. Why can't you do that?

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  • 2mo

    That was the most idiotic thing I've ever read. What are you, 12? No, excuse me, that's insulting to 12-year-olds.

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    • 2mo

      12 multiplied by 2 of course. Almost 25.

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    • 2mo

      My point exactly...

    • 2mo

      You could just not post anonymously and it would show your exact age.

  • 2mo

    Oh my freakin god. You are a loser. Thank god we'll NEVER date. God bless you.

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    • 2mo

      No. girls who expect guys to pay are losers

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    • 2mo

      Not you. SheSugarcoat.

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  • 2mo

    You're mixing up definitions of 'traditional.' There's nothing traditional about gold diggers and opportunists who play both sides of the fence.

    It's wrong to attack family orientation, which is a totally different subject from the Take you're criticizing.

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  • 2mo

    Ahaha i went on a date and she paid, i didn't have money on my wallet xD.
    It was only two drinks but i felt a little bad.

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  • 2mo

    A lot of girls keep saying that if the guy asked out the girl then he should pay. Well then, I ask you, what if the girl asked out the guy? Should she have to pay the whole thing?

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  • 2mo

    I gotta pay on the first date? Excuse me while i go to thw bathroom and never return

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  • 2mo

    This might be the stupidest thing I have ever read. Grow a pair, its not that hard to pay for one date.

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    • 2mo

      You say it's not hard to pay for one date. Let her pay for it then

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    I-3 are true and desirable.
    The rest is stereotyping nonsense.

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  • 2mo

    3,4,5 and possibly 7 aren't necessary true.

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  • 2mo

    Do you need 7 reasons? Do you need to post about it?

    Just don't date the crazy gold digging ho's.

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  • 2mo

    So you just don't think it's possible that there's a smart, independent girl out there totally capable of paying both your shares of dinner who would just like to be bought her first dinner because it's nice?
    I'm all for gender equality, I just don't like being the inside spoon while cuddling. Take of that what you will.

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  • 2mo

    If the girl doesn't at least offer to pay for her own stuff she ordered (which I would accept) I would think she's only there for the free food, and so that would be the last date. Im not short of a bob or two so its not that I can't pay for her meal. Its just I hate it when its expected. I only enjoy doing it if its not forced and its as a nice gesture.

    Girls who demand for the man to pay for her are either elderly women for whom it was the norm, or too immature for any man to date.

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  • 2mo

    Exactly and great take. Women want equality and expect us to pay... huh? WHo the f do they think they are? GET OFF YOUR PEDESTAL GIRLS AND WELCOME TO EQUALITY.

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  • 2mo

    Unfortunately I have been suckered into paying expensive dinner for a few of these of women. What's even more disgusting is one complained about "equal rights" during our conversation. Ladies never EVER bring up feminism on a first date ESPECIALLY if the man is footing the bill.

    Fortunately my current girlfriend is like this at all. Whats even more shocking is that she is very young (21). However she was raised in Asia and taught to respect GOOD men. Western feminism is a disease.

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  • 2mo

    I refuse to date a woman who doesn't allow me to pay.

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  • 2mo

    Lol, pretty accurate.

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  • 2mo

    Some guys actually do want to get married and have a family and will wait until marriage to have sex (both being virgins). Not everyone wants to slut it up with people who have been around the block many times.

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  • 2mo

    Lol I always pay for my dates it's what a real man should do otherwise he just shouldn't go on dates period. And even into my relationships I still pay. I like to take care of my woman granted she's a good one.

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  • 2mo

    If the man is paying then he dictates the rules of the game as in what she eats.

    Or how about each party pays their on way, feel each other out, and see where the relationship goes. The de facto assumption/rule that men pay always is just 1 more way that women will blatantly manipulate and exploit men for their own benefit they have no attraction or feelings for. Google "rinsing" or Youtube to see what I'm talking about.

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  • 2mo

    Great take, besides it is just sexist of women.

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  • 2mo

    lets put it like this, if i am cheap for not wanting to pay for a womans food then women who want me to pay for their food are cheaper than me.

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  • 2mo

    What's wrong with 1 and 3? I agree with the others, but I don't see anything wrong with 1 and 3.

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