Women have it so much easier when it comes to dating: agree or disagree?

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I'm starting to believe women especially today have it easier then men when it comes to dating.   They don't have to worry about rejection, they don't have to worry about their job, don't have to worry about penis size, don't have to worry about the car they drive etc.  So why do women and girls always say I wish I were male? Not all of them say that but most do and I just laugh.   None of you ladies on here couldn't last a day as a guy.  Try approaching someone you find attractive and see how rejection feels.   And don't say have because we both know that's never happened.

jdcpa · Accepted Answer

I strongly disagree.

By in large, women seek out men for financial resources, security, and stability, whereas men seek out women for sex and personal services. So, the relationship between men and woman is that of an employer and an employee, where men are the employers and women are the employee. Men are looking for the hot young prospect, among a constantly updated pool or skill and talent. Women are looking for the right combination of the highest bidder, most secure, and most stable job they can land.

The norm or status quo in this job market is that employers initiate the interview and hiring process. Unless an employer approaches an employee and expresses his interest in potentially hiring her, the woman will be unemployed. Because of the norm or status quo, women who initiate the hiring process feel desperate or negative about themselves, because it implicitly communicates to employers that no other man was interested in her. So, women are really stuck in the position of waiting for a man to initiate the hiring process.

This norm allows men to broaden their range of options and have enormous leverage and negotiating power over women in the dating market. This is compounded by the fact that scarcity works against women. The value of quality men will only appreciate with time, making their bargaining power greater. The value of quality women will only depreciate with time, making their bargaining power less.

Now, the game, as many people have already said, largely depends on what cards you are dealt. As a woman, if you aren't dealt any boobs, or butt, or hot body, or nice face cards, you're probably not going to get many high quality employers approaching you. Similarly, as a man, if you aren't dealt any rich family, smart, nice face, nice body, or wealth cards, you're probably not going to get many high quality employees to be interested in working for you.

I'm not done, it gets worse. A woman can only draw a limited number of cards to help her otherwise unfortunate situation: breast implants, and diet. That's really about it, because as soon as she starts drawing cards like: liposuction, botox, etc. she's just hurting her chances even more. A guy can draw way more cards to help his unfortunate situation: education, hard work, working out, diet, social intelligence, emotional intelligence, etc.

All I'm saying is, if dating were a casino game, it would be a game designed to take women's money, because the house odds are stacked in men's favor and against women.

Yeahhbro · Accepted Answer

I am not sure how girls have it harder, they have the power to choose who they want to sleep with, who they want to be in a relationship with, or even who to be friends with. And all they do is to look "good" I mean I am not really sure how is putting make up hard and eating properly hard as well...plus it is not like we guys are not supposed to look good neither anyways.

And those who complain about guys sleeping with them, or getting guys talking to them on the street or getting guys flirting with them are just full of sh*t...i am sure if you were a fat, ugly women they would wish otherwise...I mean it's like a rich guy complaining that he has so many cars.

I mean you guys think have it harder because you have guys offering to just have sex with you, ohhhh waaaaaa its like a rich guy complaining he has too much money. Just think about we getting friend zoned because "she doesn't like you that way", all that effort, time, headache and even money wasted on something that was going nowhere.

And honestly all they have to do is to tell a guy that they don't want sex...big deal, that was toooo hard...it only took 10 seconds.

sweet_18 · Accepted Answer

Generally, yes we do have it easier. I agree that a woman doesn't have to worry so much about her status and individual wealth, or whether or not she's funny and charming. She may not be the best looking or charismatic, but as long as she's not a bitch, she'll be able to land a guy with minimal effort, perhaps not the best-looking guy or the one with the most assets, but still.

However, I disagree when you say that we don't have to worry about rejection, or our jobs.

My future career is actually something I worry about every day, because in today's society, a woman cannot depend on a man for support her whole life. Things just aren't the way they used to be; American culture has changed.

And I'm one that believes that if you want something, sometimes you gotta put in some effort and go out there and get it. That includes guys. For a long time I was getting approached by guys I just wasn't attracted to. So I recently resolved to start doing the approaching, cause you never know who finds you attractive but actually thinks that you wouldn't be interested or thinks you're already taken.

So yes, I do worry about rejection.

"So why do women and girls always say I wish I were male?"

Well I say it because it seems less complicated. less involved. Get up in the morning, throw on some clothes, no makeup to do, no intensive hair styling. No stress over making sure your outfit looks good. Don't have periods, don't have childbirth, don't have to be pregnant for 9 mo, don't have to worry about staying home with the kids. Can move up in your career unhindered. No glass ceiling. Not to mention, stronger, taller.

But then being a girl is special too, because we hold the power really. Having a vagina...one of the most coveted things in the entire world, next to money.

udolipixie · Accepted Answer

Women have it so much easier when it comes to dating agree or disagree?

I disagree as I doubt women have it so much easier than men in finding a partner they want who wants them back.

In my opinion having it easier when it comes to dating depends on physical attractiveness, wealth, and status not gender. I think gals have it so much easier when it comes to getting sex with random strangers without paying hence why many guys would agree gals have it easier as it seems sex with little effort/money is the dating goal of many guys.

So why do women and girls always say I wish I were male?

Likely the gals who say that do so because they think being male means being seen as part of the perceived superior gender, having more respect, being valued for more than youth/beauty, rarely being slut-shamed, and getting the benefits of certain double-standards.

""None of you ladies on here couldn't last a day as a guy. "

I highly doubt that most likely some gals would enjoy being a guy and essentially not being a target for sexual assault, sexual harassment, and street harassment as it seems guys generally go unnoticed in the sexual sense.

tigerlilly29 · Accepted Answer

I think women have it easier in the dating scene because guys have to approach and pay for the date, well gentlemen do anyway. And yea. But I guess if you are a really confident guy then its not hard for you to approach women and if you are like rich then paying for the date won't be all that hard either lol. But generally I think yes men have it harder.

I disagree when it comes to rejection,and their job. Women are also afraid of rejection. I am a little bit scared of rejection, just because a guys at first finds me attractive doesn't mean he will like my personality so I worry about that and my appearance not being good enough. And about the job, I care because I wanna be able to be independent, I don't wanna be called no golddigger or live off the back off others! Plus its nice to have money and take the guy out and pay, I think guys would appreciate that. Ur right women don't worry about penis size, but women are critical of weight and cup size. Plus the media is harsh on women's body too! So women are worrying about that.

tadpole25 · Answer

My comment probably won't win best answer because it is disagreeing with yours, but I'll be honest. Women don't have it "much easier" than men. I don't think either gender has it easier or harder. Sure each gender has different difficulities and expectations set for them to meet, but in the end, it is how the individual person handles them.

A woman would probably have an easier time getting laid, because many guys are desperate, but as far as dating, not as much.

Women have to put on make-up, do their hair, do their nails, put on nice clothes and spend a lot of time to look presentable. Most men can just put on jeans, a t-shirt after a quick shower and be ready.

Women have to worry about rape, date rape and physical abuse. It happens to men too, but not nearly as much.

Women can have some insecurities with their bodies as well. And just like men, and probably to a greater extent, if you are overweight, you will have more difficulty dating. And it is harder for women to maintain their weight than men can, since men by nature have more muscle and less fat than women.

Yes, women have an easier time FINDING a date than men. But women have a harder time finding a GOOD date.

Izzy2102 · Answer

disagree, or I guess it depends on what you want. If you just want to get laid, I'm sure we have it easier but for actual relationships we have our problems too.

Of course we know what rejection feels like. A lot of us have asked someone out before and got rejected. And of course we get dumped too or a guy doesn't want to go on a second/third date with us.

I don't know if we have to worry about our job for dating, but we do. Of course we want a decent job, not only for dating, but in general. And ya we may not worry about penis size but we worry about everything else on our body. Our boobs, stomach, arms, tummy, bum, legs, feet, hands,private area... Worry about if you skin is completley hairless and smooth (you have no idea how much work that is).

There also is a huge double standart regarding women and having sex. Later on we have a much harder time balancing career and children. We have to spend a huge amount of time and enormous effort on losing that pregnancy weight.

And I don't really know why guys always complain about women wanting a variety of qualities from them. That's a huge advantage, because it means if you lack in one area you can make up for it with something else. From what I understand looks is the main factor after which men choose their partners, so we have to exceed in that area (a lot of it we have no influnece on) and chance to make up for it. That is way worse

VoiceOfReason · Answer

I don't think women have it easier when you look at every aspect of dating. Of course they enjoy the fact that most of the time they will be approached and ultimately get to issue the rejection as opposed to receiving it, but when you look at other aspects of dating, you will find that in many cases they actually have it harder than men.

When a guy prepares for a date, he pretty much has to shower, groom and wear something presentable for the date. He has to try and maintain balance in the conversation, read queues and try to stay within certain boundaries not to stray past either side. He doesn't want to come off too strong and overbearing, but he doesn't want to get friend zoned either for being too passive.

Women on the other hand, have to wash and their grooming entails so much more, because they often feel they have to live up to certain expectations of what the public image for beauty is. They want to make sure they don't dress up or dress down for the type of function that the date will entail. They have to apply make-up, in the right balance. They have to work with their hair . They have to make sure that what they do achieves a balance of comfort and practicality.

While I think that dating isn't easy for either gender because of the generalized roles each has to play I do feel that once a guy has gotten past the first move situation, it's pretty much down hill from there.

Anonymous · Answer

No, we don't have it easier, well from my perspective. It is extremely hard for me when it comes to dating because I have my shy moments. Some guys may not like shy girls, they may not like the way I look or they may not like my body. I feel like I am at a disadvantage because some guys may not want me for the simple fact that I am a black female, look at the polls on here or the comments pertaining to black women and see some of the answers. Some will probably look at this and say I'm playing the "race card," but I see and hear negative stereotypes about black women all the time. I feel like some people judge us as a whole and think we are all the same without getting to me or any of us on a personal level. However, I have been approached by guys from different backgrounds, but I often wonder do they just think I am going to have sex with them, as if I'm a whore, that's not me and that will never be me. Another reason why I feel I am at a disadvantage is because of my body. Yes, I have big boobs, but my butt is not in proportion with my boobs.

RedSmartie · Answer

Only if you're drop-dead gorgeous. That's the thing, really. Guys compare their experience as average guys to the experience of really hot girls because those girls are all they notice. The girls who fall short of 9 on an 10 point scale go unnoticed by guys, while most guys get noticed by girls.

Also, on what planet do women not have to face rejection? Women chase just as much as men do these days because most men are to chicken to approach a girl. We might not have to worry about penis size, but we have to worry about breast size and our overall body weight, two things which we can't hide until we get into the bedroom. And yeah, on some level we have to worry about material possessions. Maybe not cars but clothes and makeup are a big factor. What guy is going to want to go out with a girl who can only afford ill-fitting clothes from Walmart or can only by cheap makeup? Guys don't think about those things on the surface level but it sure as hell effects their subconscious.

Seriously, why do guys think women have it so freaking easy? That we just sit around looking gorgeous and guys just walk up and give us everything we want? Get a clue.

Amanda97 · Answer

Disagree. Actually, it depends on the hotness of the person. Dating is hard for ugly or socially awkward people. Well, I still think girls have it harder because they spend more time grooming themselves, like putting on makeup and doing their hair. Guys just shower and go. But girls have to blow dry, dye hair, straighten hair, make hairstyles, have lots of pretty clothes like dresses and skirts and shorty mc short shorts and high heels. Guys just wear jeans, T-shirt, sneakers, and go. Guys don't have to shave their legs or armpits or upper lip hairs. Guys don't have to sit down to pee or wipe their vaginas after peeing. Guys don't bleed waterfalls out of their penises 1/4 of their lives.

Guys worry about penis size. But girls worry too, about breast size, butt size, leg size, fatness, prettiness of hair, clothes, makeup. And also, the first thing a girl sees in a guy is not their penis. So they do not really care unless you are planning to have sex with the girl. Penises are not publicly visible, but breasts are. Why do so many girls get breast implants but guys don't get penis implants?

Anonymous · Answer

It is harder for a man if he's shy.

It is harder for a woman if she's fat.

Both are extremely hard to deal with if you are the wrong gender.

For people who are neither particularly fat or shy it almost balances out.

Women go out of their way to maintain their appearance. Men go out of their way to make all the initial courtship moves, pay for the dates, and try to be successful in life to impress women. But neither is always true. Some women don't do anything for their appearance, and some men don't care being successful.

Neither has better odds when it comes to love. Both men and women lie to each other way too much, and waste each others' time, by giving false expectations.

Men have one additional weakness, which is that they crave sex. Women may like sex, but very few are as horny as men. They can get by with masturbation and some women don't even masturbate. Sex for men is like food for women.

Actually that last difference pretty much means women definitely have it better than men. But the difference in difficulties for average men and average women isn't nearly as big as it is for a shy man or a fat woman.

Nicci · Answer

What...?

This is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read.

We don't have to worry about our jobs? Or cares? Are you kidding me?

Really we have it much harder than guys when it comes to relationships mainly because we have to sort out the guys who are just wanting to have sex with you and the ones who actually really do like you for you.

A girl coming up to a guy, unless he's drop dead hunk, isn't really only interested in sex, a few are like that maybe, but not a lot, and even if that was the case most of the time the guy isn't really going to be disappointed if she only wants sex.

This isn't the case with girls.

TheDigitalSaint · Answer

If a girl is average or above average looks, she has it much easier than your average guy in terms of looks/status/personality/confidence, etc. Women prefer above average in at least a couple of those categories. Men are much more likely to settle than women are without feeling unhappy. There's a reason why average guys get ignored on dating websites, don't get asked out in person, etc. Being average as a guy is NOT good enough, whereas for a girl, if she has an average looks and average personality, plus makes an effort to broadcast she's single and interested, she'll have a much easier time getting a boyfriend than "average man" will return.

crookthings · Answer

If we're calling dating, "the act of getting a date regardless of whether it turns into a serious relationship or not," sure, women as a whole have it easier, primarily if they're attractive.

But if we're talking about finding someone you're incredibly compatible with and having a healthy relationship with them, no one has it easy at all. If any person meets all of the materialistic "prerequisites" that they're paranoid about having in order to impress people they want to date, is that guaranteed to get them happiness at some point? I think you'd have to worry even MORE... Hot girls and rich guys are often both paranoid about being used.

Anonymous · Answer

In one sense, women definitely have it much easier. Unlike us, they have the certainty of being desired. Most might not be into casual sex, but they sure know they can get it whenever they want. Also, they can easily get a lot of dates. Unlike a lot of us. Whenever we like a women, we have to compete against hundreds of other guys for their attention. And not all, but quite a few of these guys (I'd say, dozens, or even hundreds) are remarkably more fun, more charismatic and more confident than us (in short more atractive), which means women will pay attention to those guys before us.

True enough, finding a good partner is hard for everyone. Yet, to me, this sounds like a first world problem, compared with the uncertainty of anyone liking me, or the certainty that I won't ever get a date to begin with.

But it is true, for the same reason, they are much less safe. In this sense, we have it way easier, as we are far less likely to be harrassed, stalked or even worse. And they are also flooded with spam.

FlaggLives · Answer

Absolutely, positively agree. Women can sit back, do nothing, and have who knows how many guys flirting with them and chasing them without lifting a finger. And they whine about getting only players and jerks when they make no effort at all to pursue decent guys.

may04 · Answer

Well I don't wish I was a guy but yes I have been rejected. Multiple times. You can believe me or not but its true and I'm sure I'm not the only woman who has been. I think it's true that women can get a hookup easier than a man but dating and serious relationships are a whole other beast. And why wouldn't a woman need to worry about her job? I'm pretty sure I have the same bills as everyone else and settling down with someone won't change that. Sorry if you're feeling bitter but hardly anyone has it easy-guy or girl.

JumpThenFall · Answer

You're acting like women just have to sit around and wait for a guy to whisk them away...it doesn't work like that. Women are constantly worried about whether they are pretty enough, smart enough, funny enough, ect. Plus, since when are men the only ones who have to approach? Us ladies approach guys to and both sides have to deal with rejection.

About the not worring about thier job thing, are you kidding? It's not like when I'm dating someone I expect them to buy me everything. I still have to have a job, pay my rent, pay my bills, buy things, ect.

This is a ridiculous post.

tomfeltonforever · Answer

They don't have to worry about rejection - well unless the woman approaches not initially but she will definitely feel rejected if he breaks up with her

they don't have to worry about their job - this isn't the 50s. women have jobs. I don't think guys want to date a woman who has either no job or a really bad one unless she's really pretty and has an amazing personality. in the long run, wouldn't a man want a woman who can help pay for things and not just leave him with the job?

don't have to worry about penis size - yeah well they have to worry about the size of just about everything else now with society's crushing expectations

don't have to worry about the car they drive - do women actually date guys based on the car they drive what

Really, the only thing women have an advantage with is the initial approaching. And nowadays, that is changing. I know many girls who approach guys. Everyone has to worry about what they look like, how much money they have, and all the rest.

krash2002 · Answer

Of course they have it easier than men. I'm not saying that it is a walk in the park, but it truly does come down to they are mostly suppose to just "show up" for dates. As guys are spending time developing idea's, concerns, and planning the entire thing 95% of the time.

My experiences from the women I've dated, observed, and taken notice to. Have all shown signs of at least a 50% decrease in stress towards dating. The ones who stress tend to be ones who are insecure in who they are, and thus spend 5 hours trying to find an outfit that fits their body to which isn't currently ready for swimsuit season quite yet.

Prettygurl12 · Answer

Guys are all going to say we do, and women will say the opposite. I think it's the same, frankly. Yes, each gender has its difficulties in the dating world, but I feel like there's still relatively the same amount on each side. But the genders will never understand this about each other because a girl can tell a guy about all the time and effort she puts into her side of the deal and he'll not find it impressive or as important or time consuming as his end. It's a bitter cycle because each side feels that they do more work. The work a man has to do to get a date is different than what a girl has to do, but a girl still has to do work too.

TheGodEmperorLeto · Answer

The day women finally can say "I ask a ton of guys out and they always say no" is when they can have it equally hard in the dating world as guys. And you know what? That'll be very unlikely to happen.

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ForeverYours39 · Answer

I think it's easier because women aren't the ones who have to take any action really. All we have to do is look pretty, be ourselves, and put ourselves out there. Guys have to chase and try and do everything right to get a girl. And they have to make sure not to come on too strong or seem like a creep. I'm happy I'm a girl cause that doesn't sound fun.

MyUsernameRules · Answer

Well, it makes it up for not having to go through period and experiencing pregnancy now. Plus also teaching your kids the proper morals and values to live in the society. Women deserve to have it much easier in the dating game than guys if you ask me. And they deserve to be more shallow and picky because a lot of the men just wanna hit it and quit it. Sure, women have it easier when it comes to dating but if you look at it overall when it comes to life, men just have it a little easier. Some might say women live longer so it's better but hey, I don't think remaining few years of your life living without your loved one sounds fun at a really old age. Quite lonely and depressing actually.

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