Sour Grapes: Men - No, BOYS - Who Hate Women Because They Can't Get Them

[LittleSally]

This Take is only referring to those who hate women because they can't get them. No other person here is referred to...

Yeah, you're bitter and butthurt because you can't get women. I'm sure you're one of those guys who looks at them on the streets, in caffees, on the bus...but never does anything.

You're getting angry and more bitter by the minute thinking how she doesn't catch your eye, or walk over to you or give you her number right away, as soon as you walk into a room, because, let's face it, you're an amazing person and she should know this. I mean...you're the nicest guy ever!

Wow...what a wonderous world it is. Blaming the other sex for not saying 'yes' to the question you didn't have the ba**s to ever even ask...

Well, I'm going to tell you right now > they, much as yourselves, aren't mind readers. They also aren't jedis...she won't walk over to you and ask you out just because you will it.

Mindblowing, isn't it?

Just because you notice someone doesn't mean they notice you, and even if they do, doesn't mean they like what they see as much as you do... That should've been obvious by now.

You make excuses about how you are attracted to only who you're attracted to (9's or 10's), but plenty of times do you complain about a woman not going out with a dude because she didn't find him attractive enough. Wow... Hypocrisy?

Not everything is serious, not everything is an attack on you, so pull your head out of wherever it's stuck right now and leave the narcissism behind. Find the child within and move on to a more lighthearted place. You're do yourself a favor + probably prevent many serious diseases in the future.

Before you ever decide to have a girlfriend, you have to decide to be okay with yourself and the world in general. Stop hating, stop being a hypocrite and start taking care of your mental health.

I'm not saying it's easy, but I am saying it's necessary IF you want to go back to sanity...

...only time will tell...

[Anonymous]

Sally, I think you are probably coming from a good place but have addressed this poorly.
First of all the title is horrible. -'Boys' Who Hate Women Because They Can't Get Them.- By intentionally linking their manhood to their bitterness you are insulting them right off the bat. Insulting someone is a useless gesture. Calling a man's 'manhood' into question is not fair nor right, nor do you have the right.
Most guys don't just go for 9/10 or 10/10's. That's just not true.
This take is targeted at bitter men and suggests that the largest problem in the equation is their failure to approach women. But those who don't approach only make up a small percentage of bitter guys. Most do approach and are serial-rejected. This happens enough and they become bitter. That is not surprising. It's difficult emotionally to be rejected. When it happens for years on end, all while you see most women getting attention from all around, and bouncing from boyfriend to boyfriend, where online dating is great for women but horrable for most guys, where the requirements for guys to be attractive to women are way higher then for women, guys will become bitter. In a world where women get most of the benefit from marriage and all the benefit from the divorce, where women get support from each other, society and the majority of men, yet men get very, very little support, men become bitter.
Really it's no surprise guys become bitter.
I'm willing to bet if the shoe were on the other foot, you would become bitter. Hell its obvous your bitter about guys who struggle with this stuff, just from your writing. Yet what your bitter about has nothing to do with whether you can find love and acceptance. You can easily ignore what bothers you and walk away. Most bitter guys cannot escape.

In the end you fail to offer any sort of real constructive help. You basically just criticize. Which is easy to do but compleatly unnessary and unhealpful.

Normally I like reading your stuff. This kinda sucked though. It seems your just being a little bitter. Go back to your awesome usual helpful wisdom and uplifting greatness. Help those who struggle; even if their reaction to the pain of their situation comes out in unpleasant ways. Help make the world better.

[Shorty1991]

Ok so maybe she was kinda harsh. But your wrong, online dating isn't great for all women either. Its never worked for me. Obviously she is not classing all men the same. But she's talking about guys who dont even put any effort into pursuing the women they like. Through experience I can relate to this post, because I've had some guys who have had crushes on me and couldn't even manage to say as much as "hello". Its not their crushes fault that they are incapable of acting on it. But they will resent them and shift the blame onto their crush because they didn't take them by the hand and initiate for them. For instance all that is left between me and one of those guys is an awkward tension between us now. I understand that helping people makes you a better person, but sometimes you've got to remember that some people mistake kindness for weakness. If you give them an inch they will take a mile. I know that being overly shy is shit.

[Opinion Owner]

@Shorty1991 I agree there is a problem with some of these guys. The vast majority of bitter guys are not like this though.

[Shorty1991]

But those people like that who can't overcome shyness and fear of rejection will never learn and neither will those overly shy men who always expect their crushes to take them by the hand. If one woman does that for him I know he'll appreciate it but he'll expect every other love interest to do the same for him. This take does not make little Sally a bitter woman. At the end of the day we all face rejection and have all been through it. So what makes it so different for shy people?

[Opinion Owner]

@Shorty1991 never learn? That's rather glib.
What makes it different? The same thing that makes it different for one who is afraid of hights to clime a ladder as apposed to one who has the tools and confidence and experiance to clime it with ease.

[Opinion Owner]

*Climb

[Shorty1991]

So what your saying is that, they'll never attempt to conquer their fears to improve their chances in life? I conquered my fears of shyness and rejection because. There was no use being held in suspense and wondering what if anymore. So I wanted to know where I stood with those guys. . . I was rejected and mocked sometimes. But I moved on, it wasn't the end of the world. You can't compare shyness and fear of rejection to fear of heights and spiders. They are hardly the same The worst that can happen is that they say no. Its not like a deadly spider that going to bite you and you'll die from it. Nor is it like bungee jumping.

[Opinion Owner]

@Shorty1991 i never said "they'll never attempt to conquer their fears to improve their chances in life?" You said "But those people like that who can't overcome shyness and fear of rejection will never learn and neither will those overly shy men who always expect..."
As you yourself have proven, it is quite possible to conquer fear and move beyond. Good for you for doing so.
I'm using the comparison between having fear about something as apposed to not. Not necessarily differing things TO fear.
Many guys will overcome shyness, some will not.
Many will deal with it in ways that are unfair to the rest of us. Some will not.
All need help from people to effectively deal with their pain and troubles.

[Shorty1991]

Yes I agree, they should work on fixing their own shit. Rather than taking it out on other people because it hasn't worked out in their favour.

[datgirl]

I love how all the guys are sitting here and bitci NC saying women are bitches. So what? Are we supposed to let you guys use and abuse our bodies? Is that gonna make you guys happy? Is that why we are bitches cause we don't feel like having sex with idiots that will just use us for fun or get us pregnant and leave? Or call us nasty vile names behind our backs after having sex? We have the right to deny you our bodies, we are not put here for a man's pleasure. So get over yourselves. And actually try to understand the female mind and heart because you guys could be missing out on some really cool companions.

by the way @LittleSally great take.

[datgirl]

Bitching*

[aficionado]

So true! And if someone can't get a woman, it's better to accept it and be at peace, instead of hating women.

[datgirl]

@aficionado good thing you understand.

[aficionado]

Yeah, apparently some people just don't realise that life isn't all about 'getting' women or sex. There is so much more to life, which they fail to see! :)

[datgirl]

@aficionado you are a very smart man! I wish you the best of luck in life :)

[aficionado]

Thank you, you're too sweet yourself! I have gone through your myTakes, and I love the fact that you don't hate Indian men, like the majority of world's female population! :)

[Frustrated2016]

@datgirl, no your punk ass is supposed to be upfront about what you want. Don't lead a brother on in any way shape or form. Don't play him for a fool, don't play hit his emotions and lastly be honest with yourself in the fact that YOU want sex just as much as the next man does.

[datgirl]

@Frustrated2016 Gtfo off my post you weirdo. And I didn't read a single word.

[BlondeBlueEyes84]

Many White guys nowadays just ASSUME from the get-go (starting in high school) that White girls don't want them and therefore don't even ask White women out anymore. It's like "why should I even flirt with her and ask her out when she doesn't want me anyway"?

But WHY do White guys irrationally ASSUME that and reject all White girls on the false assumption that they themselves are being rejected? Why do White guys early on believe, without even TRYING to flirt with White girls anymore, that White girls don't want them? Because of two reasons.

First reason: They see White girls with non-White guys which White guys ALWAYS irrationally interpret as "ALL White girls don't want me anymore". What these White guys don't understand is that White girls, all girls, can ONLY date guys who flirt with them and ask them out. So they see this White girl dating a non-White guy and ASSUME ALL White girls don't want them anymore, but the sole reason she is dating a non-White guy in the first place is that this guy asked her out, and White guys didn't.
White guys are self-perpetuating their own misery.
Women want to be desired, flirted with, complemented, told how beautiful and precious they're. White guys never do it, non-White guys do it all the time.
This is especially prevalent among blonde guys, because all non-white guys and even the majority of White guys have dark hair. So blonde guys seeing girls with dark-haired (White) guys always assume girls don't like blonde guys in general. And, of course, not getting asked out by blonde guys makes girls believe that blonde guys don't want them either, which is creating a rift between all girls and blonde guys, all thbased on a false assumption. Self-perpetuating misery.

Second reason: Many White guys don't understand the dating dynamics of asking a girl out in the fist place. They don't get that THEY have to ask a girl out, flirt with her, to get something going. They assume that White girls somehow should flock to them, ask them out, take the first step. This AGAIN is especially prevalent among blonde guys.

[BlondeBlueEyes84]

Add to this that many Asian girls most assertively ask White guys out themselves, which reinforces the irrational believe that girls should take the first step and ask White guys out. Which then leads to the believe that only Asian girls want White guys, because only Asian girls ask them out, based on the false notion that girls must take the first step, because these guys never understood that it's their job to ask a girl out in the first place.
Self-perpetuating misery and reinforced irrational believes of false dating dynamics.
It's a cornucopia of BS.

[feminismisnarcissism]

lol what drivel.

[Centerino]

It's very easy to ridicule people when you don't have to/ never will have to/ never will be able to walk in their shoes. It's very easy to tell to preach from the other side of the fence about something someone knows very little about.

Also you assume that guys who are not successful with women aren't asking women out and expect women to come over to them and ask them out. While this is true of some men, it's not true of all men and there are men who are so dejected and deflated by multiple rejections that they have simply given up. Their ego cannot handle it anymore, they've been chewed up and spat out more times than they care to remember, but adding more fuel to fire, Sally will not erode the bitterness that some of these men feel.

Also a lot of men who are unsuccessful with women aren't bitter, they don't view themselves as nice guys, I am one of those men. I am very unsuccessful with women, is that my fault or their fault? It's neither, it's just the way the stones have been cast. It's very easy to point fingers and it's a little bit harder to look inwardly but something it's neither external or internal, sometimes it's just the way it's meant to be.

The men that hate women because they are unsuccessful with women will only use your Mytake as ammunition to further their cause, you haven't helped, you have only hindered. Any sound advice within this Mytake will not be heard because of the tone you have set out from the very beginning. If you want to offer sound advice you might want to factor how you word things prior to making a Mytake.

[JustheretoChill]

it's like playing a video game and you keep losing. You smash the cartridge and say fuck this shit.

[AhGojira]

A lot of guys that can't get women actually do try and try again, but whatever they are trying isn't working for them... Go sell toasters door to door. After 9000 people tell you fuck off, get off my lawn, no way, not interested, slam the door in your face, I'm going to sick my dog on you, I'm calling the cops, etc. you're probably going to be a litter angry too because you've been decent to people are just trying to sell some toasters and they're treating you like human toilet paper. They definitely try... So don't act like you know what they are going through.

The ones that don't try don't really tend to care. They're more thinking this computer is a much better investment than a girlfriend. :D The one's that don't try tease their friends that are pulling their hair out dealing with women and laugh at the shit they are dealing with. :D

Then there's the one's that would fail with women, but do well with them because the buy them. They know the the food is better at the sushi restaurant around the corner at $10 for all you can eat, but the aumbiance isn't great there... It's a dive and hos would be turned off buy it and they'd be rejected like the first guys that try and try again. if they blow $60 - $100 a person girls go for them even though they'd get treated like toilet paper if they approached the situation differently. So these men tend to objectify women because obviously you can buy them by the dozens (it's a fact of life) so women become disposable consumer products to these dudes. They tend to dehumanize women because that's how women behave for them. Women get what they ask for...

Then there are guys that can get women, and even though they are easy to come by they know not all women are peaches and cream... They have a lot of issues and a lot of them suck. You don't have to have a problem getting girls to say man I really don't want to deal with most of them.

[Tdieseler]

I dont hate women. just their actions and mentality... i just find a majority of it absolutely moronic. One thing I've never been able to understand is why they Start certain situations then complain after or even better... make it some kind of "Rule"...
Many guys that (lets not say hate) but are irked by women, are usually that way because no matter (and every guy knows this) No Matter how much we TRY... its NEVER seems good enough. almost no understanding whatsoever.
Before this gets too long... ima bullet point it
-most men don't hate women, we really can't
-the frustration is usually what women refer to as hate
-women always ALWAYS want the best of both worlds... never want to pick one
-Women try to change men but want to remain same, no change
(a lot more in that repertoire, believe me)
but the biggest one i wanted to point out that stems from your take...
"Men, No... Boys who hate women because they can't get them... but if we can get them and in numerous quantities... we are considered Players and Cheaters"
I mean... those guys can get women... right? Either frickin way, guys never seem to win. Women Create the players and cheaters... then complain about them later...
Y'all NEVER seize to amuse/amaze/astound me... in one way or another.
then after, i hear, "it doesn't apply to all women"... maybe its just "Girls" who just bitch about it then eh... lol

[slimstiffy]

great reply. that was short but had lots of good points

[Tdieseler]

@slimstiffy i don't think it was short lol... but i put in as much points as i could.

[slimstiffy]

you could have done a mytake with those points

[Tdieseler]

@slimstiffy Oh i will... its coming

[slimstiffy]

ill be waiting :-D

[Tdieseler]

@slimstiffy I've already started. Its gonna be a memoir and like all my Takes... I know it will be featured and promoted lol

[slimstiffy]

Hehem nice

[Tdieseler]

@slimstiffy I've started it already, im calling it my memoir.

[slimstiffy]

Hahahah

[Tdieseler]

@slimstiffy im talking to my boys right now... they said they wanna be tagged in it. We are starting a thing where we don't tolerate this feminine minded bullshit, its kinda like MGTOW but without the group factor... we just speak the truth. Steadily growing a reputation for having women hate us... cuz we are right.

[slimstiffy]

Nice.. Do you guys have a name for it yet?
And if yr gettibg hate.. Ur probabky doubg something right.

[Shorty1991]

Nice take. Another one I can relate to. The main point is "how do they know that your going to reject them if they never ask? ". Like it or not we all have to deal with rejection at certain times in our lives. So why should it be any different for really shy people? They can't always expect their crushes to take the lead. Or they'll expect it all of the time and will never learn how to deal with rejection. Another thing is, some guys do turn out to be douchebags on the rebound looking for a quick pump and dump. Then you get the guys that flirt away like mad, lead women up the garden path " oh, sorry. . . didn't I tell you that I've got a girlfriend. Lets not forget the guys that actually like them and when that girl asks him he denies it, making her look the fool. People who mess you around like that aren't worth your time and effort. Good guys let women know where they stand. Its no use lurking around like peados at a playground and standing next to someone you like and pretending to look busy rather than attempting to say hi and be friendly.

[cth96190]

@LittleSally I did approach women. A lot of them. Before I was 30 I could almost not get a date.
I went out to try to meet women, but all that I saw were girls who wanted players and bad boys.
I met a lot of women during the course of my work in the media, but as soon as the purpose of my interaction with them as a journalist ended they pressed the off switch.
The one serious girlfriend I had used me for a year as a diversion, so that her parents would not suspect that she was maintaining a secret relationship with a bad boy of whom they disapproved. I was too naive and too much in love to realise what was happening. When the truth came out, I discovered a level of pain that was beyond anything that I could have imagined.
About the age of 30, I had an Elliot Roger moment, minus turning into a spree killer. Instead, I simply walked away from women. I stopped trying to date women. I stopped even speaking with women, unless it could not be avoided.
A strange thing happened.
Women who would once have dismissed me as 'boring', 'not fun enough', or 'too nice' (all of which was said to me at various times) began to hit on me.
It seemed that the less interested that I was, the more that women as a collective were interested in me.
I do not 'hate' women, to use the word that you put in the headline to your article, but for the reasons stated above (and a few other experiences) there is too much pain and resentment bottled up inside of myself for me to be open to anyone.
At the same time, I weep when I reach out at night, half asleep, and find only my cats. Yes, I really do have cats.
Even at my somewhat advanced age, I am the target of female attention in all sorts of contexts.
This would have been a dream come true when I was a 20-something. Today, I am dead inside.
How do you explain that within the boundaries of your article?

[bulat1990]

Damm you are not alone, I don't know if its the women of today or the women that men are attracted to but I truly believe while its the mans job in courtship there is some responsibility among women for the way things are for a lot of single guys in their a struggle in search of love and intimacy. The best thing a man could do unless women are already desire you is to enjoy life, travel, hang out with friends and find a passion because you only live once and there is no point in stressing about something you have little control over. Best of luck to you.

[feminismisnarcissism]

@bulat1990 so become a bad boy. it's never too late to reinvent yourself :)
it's all about confidence-think you're the shit, so will they. no shit.

[TheWaterBear]

I love how the Take author never bothered to address your experience.

[cth96190]

@TheWaterBear
I suspect that LittleSally's age (27) she may not have sufficient life experience to offer a coherent answer.
If that is the case, she may have realised that what I wrote was completely outside of her frame of reference, so had the good sense to not comment.

[TheWaterBear]

I'm getting close to turning into you, honestly.

I've had two relationships... one that ended after 2.5 years and an engagement, because I just couldn't handle being a devout traditional Catholic, and I had a lot of doubts about her ability to have a normal, healthy married sex life due to her repression. The second ended right after we started getting intimate, and she couldn't give me a specific reason... just that we weren't compatible. That sent me into a tailspin that led to a suicide attempt.

[TheWaterBear]

I'm a shy, geeky guy, so I'm not the kind of guy that women flock to. I want to have a normal relationship, including sex. I don't want to settle for a woman who used to have sex all the time with bad boys, but turned over a new leaf and makes me wait 6 months before having sex once a month. I'd rather go my own way.

[cth96190]

@TheWaterBear
If you have not discovered them, the MGTOW recordings over at YouTube may be helpful. They will certainly give you ideas to consider.
There are a multitude of different content producers, each of whom has his own ideas.
My favourites are Sandman (for a concise snapshot of female nature) and Bearing (for a laugh, as well as a brutally frank commentary on female behaviour). Bearing's girlfriend, Sugar Tits, might also make you chuckle.

[cth96190]

@TheWaterBear
At your age (35) what you will get are the former nightclub party princesses, who fucked a conga line of players and bad boys, while they said no to men such as you because you were 'boring' and not 'fun'.
I know this because that was what I experienced.
About age 30 they pulled their heads out of their collective arses and are now in panic mode because they have discovered that most of the good men have walked away and do not want anything to do with them, for the reasons that you have stated.
Life is not fair. It is brief and brutal. We are born, we suffer, we struggle and then we die.
We suffer if we have relationships with women. We suffer if we do not have relationships with women.
While masturbation is an imperfect alternative to female company, at least the man gets to keep his house, his investments, perhaps his business and his retirement savings.
Nor will he be subject to false allegations of spousal rape, domestic violence, or molesting his own children.

[NoFcks2Give]

I'm a guy who does "alright" and I agree with the notion. However it's important to remember ladies, the anger your talking about only applies to guys being told no a small number if times by women they were fixated on. This passes with experience, but guys stop fixating on the one women, it's ridiculous. No need to get mad. THERE ARE A TON OF WOMEN OUT THERE, LIVE LIFE ACCORDINGLY. Anger is useless, it's a bad phase to he stuck in. Go out there get rejected way more, like a lot more than you have previously. Look yourself in the mirror. Your still there, your not broken. Some woman, you don't know, or if you do know, haven't fucked, said "NO". Who cares? You shouldn't. The only women in life you should give a fuck about, should have been in your life way before you thought about having sex. The only exception are the women in your phone right now, that you have had sex with. None of the other matter. Why is that so hard to grasp. She rejected you, that's great, she could have said yes and got a free meal out of you, so be thankful. Lol.

[Anonymous]

This take is causing a lot of heat between the two opposing genders, I say you are right about guys seeing hot girls (10's) and getting mad because she didn't notice him. The majority of the girls aren't 10s. However, what you did not mention were the guys who actually approache girls and fail consistently. Maybe the guy is doing something wrong. It could be the girl just isn't attracted to him. This take is coming from a female perspective so to the girls attacking guys about not being able to get a girlfriend, perhaps either say something helpful or don't say anything. And this isn't me being bitter at women. I am sure there are good women out there who fall for the good guy and I am guy that can respect a girls decision about not being interested me. Guys are the risk takers in our society and if they aren't attracting women ( all kinds not just the "hot"ones) there male peers will mock them. This is important because it can affect a guys confidence which is what attracts women. Women normally don't have to go through this. The guys who are getting girls most likely get them because the girl was already interested in him. You can date whoever you like and deny who ever want. Remember one thing though I have seen to many good men get hurt by women, cheated, rejected brutally, divorced and have everything taken from them. So remember if you ever meet a guy and this to all of you women out there, respect everything and appreciate everything that they had to go through to be with you. Love is a rarity in this day and age for both genders.

[vonasaurus]

i love this!

see, this is the difference between a nice guy and a "nice" guy. one is a decent human being (like the one i'm with now), and the other is a misogynist who'd rather blame women for everything than work on himself... you know, the type who says he only dates supermodels and puts in zero effort, but then gets mad because women don't fall all over him.

most men are nice, normal people. but the author of this take is clearly talking about the entitled shitheads who think we owe them something just because we're women... thankfully, i haven't met too many of these types irl, though the interwebs is full of them.

op, i would hug you if i could. well done!

[becca123]

And obviously if a woman doesn't want to go out, she is A) a bi*tch B) stuck up C) a slut or one I see here a lot, D) racist. Can't be that she just isn't feeling a guy, has to be a derogatory reason.

[chriss]

@becca123 i disagree because when a girl rejects me i just say thank you for being honest and i wish you well.

[becca123]

@chriss I'm sorry. I didn't mean to generalize. I truly am sorry.

[evenlift]

Complaining may not be right. But, it is a right.

What is not a right is to steal other people's money, to destroy the due process of law or to censor 'hate speech', for example. Yet, that is what the feminist movement is doing. Do you really believe that values, spiritual and material, must be earned? Or do you believe that men must earn them and then dispose of them to women? Even the worst complainers among men are to the feminist movement what the Westboro Baptist Church is to the Islamic State.

[evenlift]

And here's a myTake to help you further:
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a22747-women-need-to-stop-whining-about-nice-guys

[ThisDudeHere]

I think that the bitter "I don't like women because they don't walk up to me to suck my dick" guys are a minority of those who are bitter. Most actually do approach and get nothing but failure time and time again. Is it really that surprising that they become bitter? I haven't had much failure but then again I don't really approach at all. I'm not bitter. But I probably will be once I get my act together and start approaching - and then start experiencing the rejections.

Now are guys who are constantly rejected excused for their hatred and bitterness? No. But is it still something that can be expected? Yes. Of course.

[Anonymous]

I wish I could give you the best MY TAKE ever kind of award. You sum it up concisely. I know plenty of guys like this IRL.

I like it how some of them started to show hostility when they know they can't get you. The interesting part is like you mentioned, they'd only select the hottest girl in the town. They're aware that they need to compete with hundred guys and they probably gonna lose the game so they get mad for this. This take reminds me about an article called 'Men Who Hate Pretty Women'

I know some men who get angry for no reason when they look at attractive women. Some pretend to cough annoyingly at the restaurant, cafe when you passed them by. They're trying to tell "you aren't that hot bitch so get over yourself" If I am not you wouldn't be noticing me passing by so nice try dude.

I guess people need to stop being so hypocrite and learn how to control their emotion rather than throwing it to innocent people.

[chriss]

it's a mental disorder the person could be bipolar or boderline so I wouldn't really say control emotion because it's a psychological disorder

[RandomBritishGuy94]

It's the male equivalent of "There are no good men left they are all ass holes". Both genders do this they just blame it on different things. As a stereotype women claim it's men who aren't interested in relationships and just want sex therefore aren't worthy of her. Men tend to claim women won't give him a chance because he's a "nice guy" who, if they gave them ten minutes of their day, they would instantly love.

Both sets of people tend to be single for a reason and of course It's everyone's fault but their own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-3cu46Dcvw

[Spiorad_Aisce]

I must admit I tend to avoid the dating , girl/guy behaviour side of GaG but I see constant reference to the behaviour on it by all sides. It seems to get very heated. I remember once a wise thing my father said to me when I was moaning how it was everyone else's fault that things weren't going my way, he said "In all those situations where things are going wrong for you, what is the common denominator, look at yourself first before you blame anyone else".

[aWes0MeNeSs]

That's very true, and my family shares that same motto!

[Bluemax]

I like your dad for two things, Spiorad.

First, he produced you. Secondly, I like him for what he said, or rather what he didn't say. In imparting his wisdom, he refrained from using language such as butt hurt, bitter, whiny, pity party, loser, pathetic, etc. He didn't use language which would increase the chances of you becoming defensive and turn away from his wisdom. Sadly, so many gagers seem convinced that this language will lead to enlightenment. Your dad knew better, Spiorad. As a result, *YOU* know better. Well done, sir.

P. S., what is the meaning behind your user name, friend?

[Spiorad_Aisce]

@Bluemax Spiorad Aisce is irish for Free Spirit

[Bluemax]

Does the Irish language put adjectives after the noun they describe?

[Spiorad_Aisce]

@Bluemax I am not that strong on Irish even though it is my native language, it is not my first language for historical reasons after a rebellion in the 1600s Irish was banned by the British and it never recovered but from what I know of it from learning some in school, you are correct.

[JRICHARDS1996]

In other words, most of the male posters on this website. I used to be the same way, and feel sorry for myself a lot. But then I realized that self pity and despair was not going to solve any of my problems, and opted instead to take affirmative action. If you are shy and cannot get women, the best solution is to *make* yourself approach them even if you fail miserably. The more you do it, the easier it will become. Plus you can start trying to improve aspects of your character like by going to the gym, getting an education, or advancing your career. If you want something out of this life then you have to take it. The problem with most of these neckbeards is that they do not truly want solutions, they just want pity. You can give them all of the advice in the world and nonstop encouragement to approach a woman, yet they will never do it because they will ALWAYS have some bullshit excuse. Yet then they complain that they are single.

[MagiAlphaOne]

Stop chasing women, you will go broke. You can't save money AND date. Boys and young Men, turn your energies to improving yourself. Get educated, get fit and the women will notice. Women are attracted to money and status. Bide you time. Women's SMV is highest in their 20s. Around age 30 the game begins to change in YOUR favor. You will then be able to attract the younger Women. Women these days are more focused on their Careers and keep delaying getting married and starting a Family. When a Women starts getting into her 30s, she will find it increasingly difficult to find a Husband. By the time she reaches 40 she effectively has little to no chance of having babies of her own. Female biology will catch up with her. Men, you have about 10 MORE years than Women before your biology catches up with you.

[Afrochick]

woah dude chill out, shit just got serious ahahahah

[Frustrated2016]

Bullshit! Those same bitches you refer to go out with broke ass dudes all the time.

[MagiAlphaOne]

@Frustrated2016. I can see that. Its an exception. Those Women that see themselves getting married and having children will NOT go the broke guys.

[hellionthesage]

This makes no sense to me. How would a man be bitter towards woman and it be due to him not getting a woman because he didn't do anything to do so? I feel like that is stretching things quite a bit. What kind of man is this exactly? Could you post some kind of example of the behavior your talking about because women state this all the time but I really don't know what its reffering to. I see men get bitter from being rejected, from getting used, from being mistreated but never because women never came up to them and asked them out. So could you give an example because I am confused, as I said it seems to be something all women agree with yet I cannot personally think of one example of this.

[feminismisnarcissism]

oh i think it's true-the article is about simps... they usually call themselves "male feminists" lol, they cater to every whim of a woman and usually have little identity of their own, no style, no confidence... etc. And they whine cuz they give so much and get NO PUSSY.

And yet it's obvious what they're doing wrong-everything.

[wrightontime]

True, these guys need to ask the girl out and not expect the girl to come to them, ask them out, and do all the work. But I think the guys would be happy if they use girls like I do.
You failed to mention a guy like me. The late bloomer whom gets leftover pussy. Yeah we are bitter too. The other guys date these girls when they are virgins. Then I finally get a chance two years later when they are leftovers.
Since non virgins are not up to my standards, I just lead them on, use them for sex, and suddenly break up. They are second rate women and will never get my respect. I am so happy leading on non virgin girls not up to my standards. I think butthurt guys need to stop being passive, start asking out and start using.

[ManOnFire]

It's not much different from women who hate men because they can't get "good men."

[Vivaldi]

It is not good men, it is hot men.

[ManOnFire]

@Vivaldi Maybe they want both, or confuse one for the other, lol.

[Peskyn3gr0]

Lol, how often do you see that on this website? Everyday I see at least 3-5 posts about men complaining about women on here. I only see the inverse if a guy is mistreating a girl.

[Vivaldi]

@Peskyn3gr0

I complain about women being too chosy. All are.

[Vivaldi]

I must be so ugly.

[Anonymous]

Lol and women call men assholes when they can't get relationship from the guy they want.

Would you rather be the guy who can't even get love/affection from opposite sex or the girl who can't get relationship but can get a good dicking/fun memories with guys she wanted a relationship with but couldn't get?