Feminism vs. Feminazi's...Learn the difference!

[MisleadingImpression]

I can almost guarantee someone is going to take this the wrong way, but hear me out.

I consider myself a feminist. I believe in equal rights among men and women, to be treat as equals and to rid the world of gender discrimination.

However, there are a lot of people out there that get this confused with 'Feminazi's.' These are women who believe females are superior to men and believe society should follow this. I think this it utter sexism and totally unfair to males.

That being said, there is a lot of misogyny and misandry in the so called first world. We need to fight against both, not take one side. Women in third world countries do have less rights than men, this is fact. The rape-culture in India is a dangerous and depraved mind-set and we need to oppose this to help the women and children of India. We also need to learn the difference between real oppression and bullsh*t female discrimation; I'm looking at you, Tumblr.

Regardless of whether you're male or female, we should be fighting for equality. The fact that feminism is something which is laughed at, particularly across social media worries me. Real feminism isn't about women being superior to men and anyone who thinks this is has either been misled or is a total idiot.

[AleDeEurope]

Feminazis call themselves feminists and act under the Feminist banner, therefore, that's what today's feminism has become. Think of it like Communism. Lenin's idea of a Communist Russia was pretty nice, like the first wave of feminism. Then Stalin took over, installed his ideas, and fucked up the whole country, same with today's feminism.

Those who want equality should move away from feminism and start calling themselves egalitarians, which is the believe of true equality for both sexes. Feminism as it was back in the day is dead, feminists killed it, you let the virus "feminazi" enter the group, you didn't kill it when it was small, and now it has taken over the whole movement, it's time to move out and find a new movement to fight for, that's egalitarianism.

[IdkImJustMe]

I was thinking of communism and what's wrong with it but how it started with a decent idea today! I just saw this scrolling through 😂

[ChocoLada]

Exactly, Stalinism has ruined Lenin's ideas of Communism the same way as Feminazis have ruined Feminism.

[FakeName123]

@IdkImJustMe

Just casually thinking about communism. Lol, that thought is quite amusing.

Anyway, AleDeEurope is right - even though just like Lenins Communism also the first wave feminism had some issues among them, but by far not as bad as what it developed into.

[IdkImJustMe]

@FakeName123 hey we've all done it! Right... Nah I'm probably weird. But I was totally have deep thoughts about communism yesterday 😂

[FakeName123]

@IdkImJustMe

I am having dreams about communism until I wake up all sweaty and out of breath.

[IdkImJustMe]

@FakeName123 oh I'm sure. That's what all the normal people dream about anyways.

[FakeName123]

@IdkImJustMe

Normal? Me? I think you are mistaking me with someone else.

In all honesty though, I am used to think things way too far so thinking about communism casually is one of the more normal things. For example I spouted into a group of friends when a necrophile joke came up "I wonder if necrophiles prefer their corpses warm or cold."

[IdkImJustMe]

@FakeName123 I am honestly reading about communism, lenins socialism, Marxism and all of that right now because of this. Well, partially because of this and partially because I think a comparison between socialism and current communism would make a great article (since I often hear people wrongly call socialism communism).

Uhm that is a little weird if you went into full detail😂

[FakeName123]

@IdkImJustMe

Naturally there are different kinds of socialism and communism and socialism is more of a specific kind of communism. In the end though both have the very same problem of being dysfunctional in reality due to the factor humanity. Sounds great in theory, is completely impractical in praxis. I have grown up in a former socialist country and have a bit of insight what went wrong there.

And yes, I kinda did in full detail of comparing the advantages and disadvantages of the corpse being warm and cold.

[IdkImJustMe]

@FakeName123 I don't know what isn't dysfunctional in actuality at this point though. I mean clearly I am aware already of the dysfunctionality of communism, I am yet to fully understand socialism enough to give my informed opinion. But compared to capitalism I see less dysfunctionality. Capitalism here in America is pretty flawed to me and I don't like living in a country with it as much anymore.

Well, then that is pretty weird. And a little too gross to think about for me haha

[FakeName123]

@IdkImJustMe

"Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." - Winston Churchill

There is a similar problem with socialism. It simply does not work for a few basic human reasons.

- To have a living standard similar for everyone the living standard of all had to be created into a common detominator which naturally will become the lowest possible one.
- The lack of competition stunts any progress and will create a decline as well as a wastefulness of ressources.
- In reality while all people are meant to be equal, there will always be people who are more equal.

Those are just the 3 key aspects. It's unfortunate, because it would be great to have all people have a decent living standard. It simply does not work though and has proven so time and time again.

And I never said I don't find it gross. I just still thought about it nonetheless ;)

[Anonymous]

I find that first-wave feminism was revolutionary, second-wave feminism was a bonus, and the feminisms after that were just asinine. I agree that feminism is much needed in the developing world, but I think we have too many of those self-identifying "feminists" in the developed world that propose radical but asinine conclusions with little evidence that such phenomena exist. One example is the persistent desire to drop the he/she pronoun and use of singular they, insisting that singular he is somehow sexist. Another example is to "liberate women's sexuality", which essentially means to engage in extramarital sexual relations and to correct the sexual double standard that men can be promiscuous while women cannot.

[Eric644]

both men and women should be allowed to be promiscuous and not be shamed for it

[Opinion Owner]

@Eric644 There are real health risks in promiscuity. So, if shaming is one way to promote public health, then so be it.

[Byakuyarko]

Yikes! I live in India... And believe you me, there isn't an inch of soil in India where you so much as look at a woman without her accusing you of 'outraging her modesty'. This can include anything from singing at them to verbally abusing them. Yes. Moronic laws like this do exist in India. a You could actually get arrested for catcalling. We're possibly one the only nations to reserve entire trains for female commuters. Sure, girls have it harder here than their western counterparts... To say that it's 'rape-culture', is exaggerating quite a bit. Yes, a brutal rape did occur in the December of 2012. But what was even more thoughtless was some foreign media trying to sell the idea that we treat women worse than cattle. Yes, justice was delivered very slowly. It was a learning experience for our police and judicial systems but not a single person in India disagreed that what happened was beyond reprehensible. Political conservatives made ridiculous statements and were thrashed by the media... Sure, people here do police their daughters a lot stricter than their sons but to insinuate that we are a nation ridden with rapists and murderers is quite a fantastic stretch of logic. If you are looking for countries with out of control gender-related crime, try a little closer home.
We all know what feminism is supposed to be about. Equality, fraternity, rationality... and what not... But the alarming truth is that feminism is a movement which has been overrun with fringe political groups with asinine suggestions and outrageous demands. These people are not quite criminals... more like social-media bullies who want to bully everyone else in the real world as well. As far as dictionary definitions go, 'feminist' is a label... And labels are context sensitive... If you talk about feminists and their supposed ideals, it's a worthy cause indeed... But if you talk about feminists ans their actual public and online behaviour and their asinine political views... yeah... It's not surprising that many people, in spite of subscribing to feminist philosophy (some of which is quite agreeable and not threatening at all), do not want o associate with the label.

[Elena_the_Star]

Excuse me?" You could actually get arrested for catcalling". Did you just imply that catcalling is not something you should be arrested for? Catcalling is a very big problem in India and anybody who does that needs to be arrested and punished. India is definitely a very misogynist country, and you can't sideline the thousands of rape cases that don't even get reported to save the family honor for a Jasleen Kaur and Rohtak girl case, which are in reality are very few.
IIf you go to the real rural villages, which constitute the real India ( 60%) , many women ARE treated like cattle or worse. A khap panchayat recently ordered the rape of a sister, who's brother eloped with a girl of higher caste, to punish him. What the hell was her fault?
Kindly see that india is a patriarchy and it absolutely needs feminism. A few false cases does not mean the treatment of men in India comes even near to the treatment women are given.

[Byakuyarko]

No. I do not believe catcalling should be a criminal offense. Full stop. If you think people ought to be arrested for catcalling, you might as well ask people to be arrested for jaywalking or cussing on the street. India, is not a 'misogynistic' country. I wasn't aware that entire countries could be classified as feminist or misogynistic. Maybe, you can't imagine this but, entire nations are actually pretty difficult to classify on social grounds, simply because, people have different even opposing opinions.
No no no... You did not just mention the jasleen kaur debale or the rohtak sisters scam... Both of those cases were debunked quite solidly by both the judiciary and the commercial and social media. I'm sorry mate, but, India is actually pretty okay for people of any gender... As for the whole khap panchayat arseholery, every person involved, in 9 cases out of 10 get arrested and face prison time. Kindly, check your facts.

[Byakuyarko]

where the hell are you getting your statistics from? Huffington Post? Unlikely... Their reporting is yellow journalism at best but even they stop to check what they publish... Fox news? Unlikely as well... They can hardly place India on the map

[Elena_the_Star]

I would like to see what your reaction would be if your sister or mother would be catcalled. Catcalling is a deliberate, lewd comment at a girl and any guy who does that is sick. period. The fact that you agree with it shows just what your mentality is. India is a patriarchal country, always has been, go and look at the number of rapes, domestic violence, kidnappings, sex traficking women are subjected to. Are men subjected to even half of this? NO. 70% women are financially and emotionally dependent on men. Rape victims are slut shamed. Female foeticide is practiced.
Kindly learn to write and read English. I said the exact same thing that Jasleen Kaur and Rohtak sisters were false cases but there were only 2 of them, while thousands of REAL cases are not even reported. Open the paper tomorrow and look at the number of articles on crimes against women. India is not at all a good place for girls, its not at all safe, we don't get sufficient rights and we are safe nowhere literally.

[Elena_the_Star]

The sex ratio is skewed. People desperately want a boy, this is a major reason our population is increasing, because they want a boy and many boys at that.
The juvenile victim in the December gangrape case is not even getting full punishment because he was a few months short of being 18. How the fuck do you do such brutality and get away with it?
No sir, its the opposite only in 1 in 10 cases the justice is ever delivered because the sensation fades off after a time and the court cases go on for years. The khap panchayat case I mentioned has still not been punished.

[Byakuyarko]

@Elena_the_Star: My reaction would be exactly the same as any rational person. I'd simply ignore them. As would my sisters and my mum. They know better than to deign to argue with loafers on the streets. You are parroting what you've heard from less than informed people, mate... Certainly, India has a problem with crime. But crime affects all nations. Besides, the US has a much bigger problem with gender related crime. But would you consider Americans as sexist or misogynistic? Absolutely not. Americans, no matter how obnoxious they are over the internet, are perfectly normal and law abiding. Criminals are hardly an indicator of normal, law abiding citizens.
As for calling me out on not reading your comment in all it's misinformed glory... Well done... You've proved your case very well that all feminists aren't misinformed crybabies who do not feign superiority over something as ridiculous as internet arguments.

[Byakuyarko]

You do not have a shred of research to back your claims, mate. Female infanticide... You do know, I hope, that it's illegal to know the gender of the baby before birth? And before you spout your nonsense, let me tell you, that this law is rigorously enforced. Yes. Even in remote areas. And as for the sex ratio... Big freaking deal... The generations responsible for it, are no longer accurate examples of the average Indian. And why are you cussing? Why? Because, if it is to make your misinformed point, you're doing just the opposite... I cannot take any of your views seriously unless you make substantiated claims and speak in a civilised way. To me you sound like an angry teenager venting steam over the internet. Face it, mate... Your opinion on India, might need an information update.

[Transigence]

@Elena_the_Star "Catcalling" may be rude, but it's not sick. To suggest that is to suggest that normal male sexuality (men being attracted to women) is sick. But I wouldn't be surprised if you believed this.

Fucking hell no, you shouldn't be arrested and/or charged and/or sentenced to jail time for being rude to someone, because no actual harm was done. People are free to speak in the free world.

[Anonymous]

I agree we should all be fighting for equality... so stop being a feminist and be first and foremost for equality because the label hurts you.

The problem is that if their isn't this rampant misogyny but you keep harping on about it and trying to change things for the worse then that's not equality.

The definition is a good place to look when thinking about feminism.

Wikipedia: to define, establish, and achieve equal political, economic, cultural, personal, and social rights for women.

Dictionary. com: the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men.

If you begin from the premise of patriarchy, then women are seen as utterly oppressed and in need of lifting up. It's all about making WOMEN "equal" based on the assumption that men as a collective (because collectivism is important to feminism) exist in a state of almost immutable sanctity within society.

Think about it if you have an erronous view about men and then have a movement that wants to make women equal to men, then it's going to unknowling push female supremacy in the name of equality and think everything is right about that.

I'm ok with pushing for equality in India and wherever else, but not "feminist theory." [Erin Prizzy has some good stories about "feminist theory" being dicated to her] So if it's other countries with these serious issues then why is there so much feminist tableflipping in the western first world?

*Real* feminism is however it represents itself. If that's real feminism then it's full of a bunch of useless people who don't do anything. Anyone can call themselves a feminist, but actually advocating for the things makes you a *real* feminist and what it advocates for in the most part is what will tell us if it's shit.

So then we can look at prominent feminists and realise they are advocating for things we dont want, that they lie and misrepresent often, and are generally full of shit.

If there's the feminism we see in the media and the silent feminism that 'really does care about men.' Then who cares which one is "real" that's just semantics. The point is crazy people are excersiing authority and the non-crazies are largely silent.

[Opinion Owner]

I'm sure Nazism was sold to Germany as "building a better future for Germany or something like that and there were people in the Nazi party who didn't like what was going on. So do we call them the real Nazis or the one's that killed millions? Again, who cares? It's just semantics. We know know who the assholes are, who has power and who wants to ruin everything.

Even if you represent the good, "real" Feminism or the good "real" Nazism, it doesn't matter because authoritarians have co-opted your movement. So either defect or rebel.

[AllAboutTheX]

There is no difference. You all keep trying to convince people (or yourselves) of that but the ideology is the same. The beliefs are the same. The people you idolize are the same. The false stats you believe and push are ALL the SAME!

At NO point has ANY feminist worked towards equality. EVER! Doing that would require them to fight against women getting the many benefits and bonuses we get simply for being female. It would require them to stop spreading false information and false issues in order to benefit their ideology.

If you want to fight for 3rd world females, being an activist here does nothing. NOTHING! and in western cultures women are no oppressed, we don't have any of the issues feminist claim we do, rape culture is bullshit. 1st world feminist don't fight to stop ANY of the bullshit they say they don't support, especially when it benefits them. Where were the none femnazis fighting against the bullshit man-spreading, fighting against "mattress girl" and her lies or against Anita Sarkeesian and her bullshit? Where were they when Emma Watson spewed the bullshit lies about wage gap and rape culture at the UN? Where are the "real" feminist fighting to stop affirmative action, women getting less punishment for the same crimes, equal parental rights, (the list is endless).

DO NOT even dare to claim feminism is for equality when there has yet to be a single item which shows that to be true.

[FatherJack]

Bravo !! A pity there is no standing ovation button !! We men are demonized in Western countries , simply for having the audacity to be born with a disgusting Y chromosome !!!

[circlebill]

Excellent post! At last a woman DARES to be honest about male-female issues! The simple truth is that feminism was NEVER about equality between the sexes! Feminists NEVER wanted to be equally drafted to equally fight and equally die in wars! Feminists NEVER wanted to do equal hard, physical labor such as ditch digging, roofing, coal mining, sewer work, etc. Feminists NEVER wanted equal standards where physical ability is graded for hiring and promotion purposes!

More women should admit the truth that feminists want equality ONLY when it's convenient! ONLY when they can gain benefits without equal responsibilities!

[sixstring]

The problem is that we already have equality, and that feminists conflate equality with equity. The wage gap is nothing but consequences of different choices. The fact that the majority of politicians are male is because men are more likely to try to enter politics. And so on.

Feminists are so focused on the men in power; politicians, CEO's etc, which is less than 1% of the male population, that they are ignorant to the fact that the majority of people at the bottom of society are also men. And this is a far larger portion of the male population.

How can you say society is built to benefit men when the amount of men for whom the system is detrimental is far bigger than the amount of men for whom it's beneficial?

But by far the biggest problem really, is that all modern feminist ideology and theory is based off of 2nd wave extremists. The whole model of patriarchal oppression (eg the duluth model of IPV) is absolute nonsense. The whole feminist narrative is completely false, and for that reason feminism doesn't represent actual equality.

[SidneyBeans]

At this point feminist is a bad word. The radical men hating people have made it to more of an insult than anything else. I guess maybe I'm too young to notice the inequalities I will face in my life, but up to this point I've been equal to every man I've encountered and treated as such.

I definitely believe in equality, but men and women are not he same and, by default, we are going to have different roles by society's viewpoint. That's just a fact.

I believe in equal pay for equal work, but if I need to buy tractor parts I'm going to want a male salesman, or let my husband pick it out because I don't know anything about tractors. If I want to buy some new makeup, in going to want a females help at the store.

I totally respect those who want to live outside their traditional gender roles, but you can decide to go against the grain and not expect adversity. Strong people don't bitch and moan in the face of adversity and try to keep other people down. They face it head on and are better for it.

I feel like you can't just change everyone else's opinion when you want to be different or have a more masculine role, you just have to accept that you're different and be ok with the fact that people are allowed to have their opinions.

[shessoheavy]

The issue I have with this mentality is that masculity is still placed above feminity. Compare tom boys to... Um what is a nice word for a feminine man again? Oh that is right there is not one! Do you see my point? I would rather sell makeup than tractor parts, and I realize that is less common but it should not be a limitation one way or another. This is why I consider myself a feminist, gender norms can be harmful for anyone.

[Gommers]

You're a humanist if you believe in equal rights between race, gender, sex, intellectual level... whatever, unless you are advocating solely for the advancement of women, or the equality of women (which has long since been bypassed and is now nearing superiority levels) you are anything but a feminist.

Sorry to tell you this, but when extremists taint a name or group, well, that name is fucked for history. Take the Swatztica for example, a Tibettan symbol for peace/unity repurposed by the nazi military as a symbol for unity in their own way. The reason we see the swatstica as a bad symbol today is because we won the war, if we wouldn't have won the war the symbol would still represent unity and peace from that unity. Our perceptions of the symbol and the history would be completely different and we would never even give the fact that it happened a second thought. However, this generation of millennials has been corrupted by the ideology that men are evil or that men are stupid and that women are good or even godly. It's been corrupted to believe that the media has their best intentions in mind, it's been corrupted to believe that facts are no longer important, what is important is what you feel is right; that is unless you're a man, if you're a man you're fucked if it's a dispute against a woman.

The fact is that if you don't want to be classified by your extremist counterparts, well, stop associating with the groups they represent and are the face of.

Technically I'm a millennial, born in 1990, I reject that. I grew up with gen x kids and believe very much in the generational systems of belief that came to fruition. Yeah, technically from a birthday standpoint, I'm a millennial, but I do not associate as this is the dumbest fucking generation to ever walk the earth and the second greediest.

[JSmuve]

The whole idea of feminism was to push for equal rights between men and women; as in bring women up to a man's level, and by definition is gynocentric. In the first world this has largely been achieved so it's usefulness has been outlived. Feminism, though, still has an important place in second and third world countries were there is prevalent societal gender discrimination.

Present-day feminists in the first world fall under three categories:

1) Feminazis who's quest for women's rights is never sated until there's an imbalance in women's favour. They view men as the root of the world's problem and women never have enough ways to knock them down a peg.

2) Fairweather, or entitled, feminists who want all the benefits that males and females have, and will throw in the "gender roles" card when they see fit to get guys to do stuff for them.

3) Equalists that rally for both men and women in order to achieve balance. If there's an imbalance in either direction (i. e. men are getting shafted in some way by women) then they fight to rectify this.

In the minds of guys, self-proclaimed feminists fall under 1 and 2. Women in 3 who call themselves feminists are doing themselves a disservice because, like I said, feminism has a very gynocentric slant to it. These women would be best to distance themselves from the feminist brand and call themselves equalists lest they're lumped into a group that may not accurately reflect their values.

[TheBasil]

Great! But sadly some people are already getting offended just because humanism and feminism is pretty much the same * sigh*

They are almost exactly the same why even argue...

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[Bookwik]

While humanism is the same as first wave feminism. I find it easier to call myself a humanist rather than raise the question to others of whether I'm a self hating moron of a man, or a first wave feminist by calling myself a feminist. Its unfortunate, but them's the breaks.

[TheBasil]

@Bookwik Yeah, i guess. But it's just sad that people manage to twist this word into something totally different.

[Eric644]

well coming with this current wave, the radicals femmes aka Valerie Solanas lovers have hijacked the movement. They believe in female supremacy and are teaching women that men are not needed and that all men are evil rapists that want to rape women. Of course there are moderate feminists but their voices are being drowned out by the radicals every day, and the radicals become more of the majority now days and that is sad

[Thor696]

I don't even know why we're discussing this. I have been all over the world. Women are treated better in the Western Democracies than they are in any other place in the world - BAR NONE.

If people want to fight for gender equality - haul your ass to Afghanistan and fight the Taliban for the right of girls to LEARN TO READ. Go to Saudi Arabia and lobby them to allow women to DRIVE A CAR.

Too much complaining about "gender inequality" here - I wish I could parachute all the complainers into Raqqa... have fun with the Social Justice Warrioring there.

[sanloveshorror]

You know what? many people just like you don't know the meaning of feminism.
It's standing FOR WOMEN rights AS EQUAL TO MEN. It has nothing to do with men's rights. It's about women being equal to men in political and economical. Many people just just like you misunderstand it's real definition. The feminism movement started because back in centuries women were not treated equally and they still are today in many parts of the country. That's why it started. Men on the other hand were never treated in such way but of course there might be some instances that's where egalitarian comes in.

[AdamThomas]

The difference:

Feminazis push for policies and legislation which favour women over men such as gender quotas, lowering of standards of entry into jobs such as the military and the fire service, not recognising male victims of female rape as rape victims. They also only ever push for support for women for example in their feminist run domestic violence shelters which only help women and turn away men, then get hostile whenever anybody mentions that male victims should have more support (men make up 40% of DV victims here, yet only have 25 DV shelters to women's 4000) claiming that men make up a tiny number of DV victims. Basically, feminazis have influence.

Feminists - tell people on the internet that "not all feminists are like that" and to look at the dictionary definition. Often talks about patriarchy, the thoroughly debunked wage gap, rape culture bullshit, that boys should be able to wear dresses and play with dolls and cry. Has no actual influence whatsoever.

[BruceJender]

In summary "It's a No True Scotsman Fallacy". One of the many fallacies Feminists will typical fall victim of.

Even fallacies are oppressing women "PATRIARCHY!!!"

[Stephen10]

Absolute nonsense. If you believe in equality then you're an equalist, not a feminist. I have never once seen feminists protesting outside family courts demanding equal rights for fathers. It's not about equality at all. This is a myth that keeps getting repeated, but luckily people are starting to wake up to the lie of feminism. By the way, feminism was funded by the Rockefeller family for the purpose of taxing women and breaking up families. Look into it.

[Telcontar]

Props for posting. I'm sure you already expected to receive hate for posting this.

[Stephen10]

@Telcontar Yer because truth is the new hate speech.

[FatherJack]

@Stephen10 , you are correct , interestingly the Rockefellers are also intermarried with & strongly allied with, the far more powerful Rothschild's , who originally financed them anyway.

[Stephen10]

@FatherJack Yes that is correct

[OfAfricandescent]

I wish mainstream media focused more on women who say and demonstrate that they are for equality. I think part of the problem is that people are more exposed to reports of women, who engage in behaviors that men probably wouldn't get away with. For example I've read a few articles of men being accused of assault against a woman, and it turned out the woman was lying ( or her report was so full of holes it was hard to take her seriously). In those reports I read there was no penalty for the women, and I can't recall hearing anything about any kind of movement or group condemning the behavior of the women.

[Anonymous]

Men in first wold countries have less rights than women, and the ones who made discriminatorial laws in my country 10 years ago... were feminists, not feminazis (not even right wing political parties had the balls to ever make discriminatorial laws during our short democracy)... in my eyes, all feminists are the same (I no longer bother making distinctions) and they are not for equality, they are for privilege. Actions is what matters to me, not words... feminists had their chance, and they failed, now it's time for them to disappear or else.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think your intentions are bad... but you are not the problem, feminism is, and someday you will realize this.. I guarantee.

[Transigence]

She's part of the problem. The only "activism" the "nice feminists" ever do is apologize for what the politically activated and powerful feminists do.

[vishna]

Great MyTake. And of course, you get lots of hate for it. Thank you for making this!

[GreatnessPersonified]

"I consider myself a feminist. I believe in equal rights among men and women, to be treat as equals and to rid the world of gender discrimination."

You got it twisted. Feminism is women's rights. This is geared toward women having more rights than they previously had. It has nothing to do with men.
Equalist is more of the proper term for both.

[Riggers]

Feminists do not care about Equality.
Egalitarians care about Equality.
Feminists care about Females.

If you truly supported equality, You would be a proud Egalitarian, Not a feminst. And despite what 99% of feminsits reply to that, No, They are not the same thing, If they were there would not be two different names for it...

[SilenRose]

Props for posting. I'm sure you already expected to receive hate for posting this.

[BruceJender]

This is a No True Scotsman fallacy.

You're attempting to avoid being associated with an "Feminazis" by asserting that no true Feminist would do such a thing.

You're acting just like Muslims when we associate them with the Jihadis.

Or when Germans deny their historical association with the Nazis and the white South Africans with the Apartheid.

I wish Feminists could focus on tackling WHY people don't like it as a movement rather than toss the reasons aside and force their bigoted agenda on society.

This is why so many people detest it, this is why so many people refuse to affiliate themselves with it.

I'm not a Feminist, and I'll never date one.

[chuppachup]

This is spot on. The No True Scotsman fallacy is widespread within Feminism. Rather than address the bad apples within the movement, they ignore them.

[Anonymous]

Use the term equalitarian. There really is no difference between feminists and feminazi. They claim to fight for rights for both gender yet they only focus on women and ignore men's problems. Feminsts just wanna blame men for their actions and not be responsible for them. They exaggerate statistics and still believe in the stupid wage gap that has been repeatedly debunked. They are just a bunch of manipulative idiots playing victim. They complain that men are privileged instead of helping them. Women already have rights so why should I fight for something I already have?

[Rainie_]

Feminism is simply more focused towards women's rights. Generally because for a long time we haven't had the same rights as men. And there IS STILL work that needs to be done, even though we may have so much more rights than we used to, being a man is still better in general than being a woman. For example WHY are women STILL being fired for getting pregnant, even though it is illegal in a lot of countries to fire pregnant women. Sometimes it's not always the laws that needs work on because most of them are already in place, but the mindset of the people.
And also, you can call yourself a feminist even though you may not necessarily need it in your country as much anymore, but simply because there is still a lot of inequality for women in the rest of the world.

[sanloveshorror]

@Rainie_ Thanks you took the words out of my mouth! people don't even know the actual meaning of feminism :/

[angelling]

No, there definitely is a difference.