@Kirah I only ever hear someone saying people are 'out of their league' though, when it's someone who feels as if they are unattractive by society's ideals. That this reason alone makes them by default doomed to be rejected by anyone and everyone, specifically blaming people who are definitely attractive, popular, or very socially adept think they are 'too good' for them. Instead of thinking that maybe there's simply no chemistry or that they themselves are lacking something not necessarily physical.
2nd mytake from you I agree with. That's rare. But yeah I definetly am on the same page. Except for tinder though. There is such thing as "out of your league on there". Cause it's a superficial app and you're only as good as your worst picture.
I think that we as human beings cannot define the word "normal". Being "out of someone's league" is merely a saying. We can't help who we like sometimes and it shouldn't matter if one person is more attractive than the other
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I just think if you have the confidence to talk to girls without worrying too much you'll be fine. I spent most of my teen years shying away from girls. I got drunk at a party and hooked up with a girl who is my girlfriend now. Ever since then I've had way less issue talking to girls because im not trying to get into their pants. If im ever single again that the attitude im goung to take.
I've only heard it in reverse, about a guy being out of a girls league, a handful of times. It would be a bit much to have to add he/she, him/her, boyfriend/girlfriend, etc.. The general idea applies pretty much the same to both.
true but some people believe in this categorization so strongly, they make it out to sound like the really hot girls are like a whole nother species. Essentially unapproachable because of huge behavioural/social/physical differences. May be true in some movies, but it's amazing how many take it as factual in real life.
Yeah. I try to think of it as "well no matter who I end up with im gonna think they're way more attractive than me by default so they'll probably be 'out of my league' anyway".
Leagues are not possible to be 100% objective. They'll always be made with influence by what each individual happens to see as 'beautiful', their religions/culture, environment they were raised in which would affect who they see as beautiful and who not so much.
... have you read the take? It's sarcastic. There are no leagues, only those you make in your own head in which case you're digging your own grave. Nobody else's fault but your own.
Sure leagues don't exist but people decide their partner firstly based on appearence and then character and don't tell me otherwise. You wouldn't date someone you don't find attractive. At the end of the day it's his image that is in your mind not his character. Sure character is great. It's like a banana. The inside could be sweet, but if the outside is black you wouldn't like it that much.
yes but that's not a league. It's appearance. A lot of people talk about leagues as if they're trying to justify their lack of success with the opposite sex and be like.. ah fuck well I'm simply too ugly, no point in trying.
The real winners happen to be the girls or guys who may not be ideal in a physical light, but make up for that with persistence and a really good attitude/approach.
Approach the girl even though you think she's out of 'your league'. You don't need to land a date on the first approach, give it time but if you let her warm up to you, it could very well work out. We're all human, after all.
yes at least a bit but unfortunately, nobody, not even the most stunning-looking, found themselves a partner whether it be just to fuck or an actual relationship with zero confidence. Sometimes you gotta just bite the bait and hope for the best.
What if you do consider a girl outta your league like the way she dresses or presents herself. Like you get the feeling that you'll never measure up to her standards?
That's all in your head! Think about it... is there some universal 'setting standards' committee? No. Obviously not. Everyone's standards, who they view as above/below their standards are subjective.
Is this a scheme to have more guys ask hot girls out because their rejection numbers aren't as high as they wish? I guess I'm out of every girl's league.. Lol!
I automatically assume every guy who talks to me is out of my league of he's drunk high or bored because I have a low opinion of myself and it sucks I'm highly aware of it but don't really attempt to fix it cause its like a defense mechanism
None of that's true for the simple fact all those types of girls already think there so much better than you that average dudes don't even exist to them.
lol k. No need to be all bitter and pouty because some women fucked you over, or maybe because you chose to sugarcoat them simply being not interested by saying it's because they think they're 'too much better than you'.
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Do "leagues" even exist? or is that just a way for conceited narcissists to boost their ego?
The world will never know.
I think it's the latter.
@Kirah I trust your judgement :D
@Kirah I only ever hear someone saying people are 'out of their league' though, when it's someone who feels as if they are unattractive by society's ideals. That this reason alone makes them by default doomed to be rejected by anyone and everyone, specifically blaming people who are definitely attractive, popular, or very socially adept think they are 'too good' for them. Instead of thinking that maybe there's simply no chemistry or that they themselves are lacking something not necessarily physical.
Go to YouTube and type in Jimmy Fallon and Nicole Kidman. That tells you a lot about leagues.
leagues do... don't be put off cos you're not in the top leagues?
2nd mytake from you I agree with. That's rare. But yeah I definetly am on the same page. Except for tinder though. There is such thing as "out of your league on there". Cause it's a superficial app and you're only as good as your worst picture.
I think that we as human beings cannot define the word "normal". Being "out of someone's league" is merely a saying. We can't help who we like sometimes and it shouldn't matter if one person is more attractive than the other
I just think if you have the confidence to talk to girls without worrying too much you'll be fine. I spent most of my teen years shying away from girls. I got drunk at a party and hooked up with a girl who is my girlfriend now. Ever since then I've had way less issue talking to girls because im not trying to get into their pants. If im ever single again that the attitude im goung to take.
I thought you were going to talk about both genders
I've only heard it in reverse, about a guy being out of a girls league, a handful of times. It would be a bit much to have to add he/she, him/her, boyfriend/girlfriend, etc.. The general idea applies pretty much the same to both.
This very true, love can happen anytime, anywhere, and it could be anyone.
But the proverbial leagues are just representational of how certain people are more attractive. It's just categorization.
true but some people believe in this categorization so strongly, they make it out to sound like the really hot girls are like a whole nother species. Essentially unapproachable because of huge behavioural/social/physical differences. May be true in some movies, but it's amazing how many take it as factual in real life.
Yeah. I try to think of it as "well no matter who I end up with im gonna think they're way more attractive than me by default so they'll probably be 'out of my league' anyway".
At the end of the day, pre-selection is up to women to decide. Attraction is not a choice.
So tell me this. If beauty is completely subjective how can you be 100% objective when it comes to realize your ''league'' or your? out of 10?
Leagues are not possible to be 100% objective. They'll always be made with influence by what each individual happens to see as 'beautiful', their religions/culture, environment they were raised in which would affect who they see as beautiful and who not so much.
Well I know and I'm happy you know too. Considering the fact that you know leagues are subjective how can you make such a mytake?
... have you read the take? It's sarcastic. There are no leagues, only those you make in your own head in which case you're digging your own grave. Nobody else's fault but your own.
Sure leagues don't exist but people decide their partner firstly based on appearence and then character and don't tell me otherwise. You wouldn't date someone you don't find attractive. At the end of the day it's his image that is in your mind not his character. Sure character is great. It's like a banana. The inside could be sweet, but if the outside is black you wouldn't like it that much.
yes but that's not a league. It's appearance. A lot of people talk about leagues as if they're trying to justify their lack of success with the opposite sex and be like.. ah fuck well I'm simply too ugly, no point in trying.
The real winners happen to be the girls or guys who may not be ideal in a physical light, but make up for that with persistence and a really good attitude/approach.
Define persistence
Approach the girl even though you think she's out of 'your league'. You don't need to land a date on the first approach, give it time but if you let her warm up to you, it could very well work out. We're all human, after all.
That requires confidence you know.
yes at least a bit but unfortunately, nobody, not even the most stunning-looking, found themselves a partner whether it be just to fuck or an actual relationship with zero confidence. Sometimes you gotta just bite the bait and hope for the best.
What if you do consider a girl outta your league like the way she dresses or presents herself. Like you get the feeling that you'll never measure up to her standards?
That's all in your head! Think about it... is there some universal 'setting standards' committee?
No. Obviously not. Everyone's standards, who they view as above/below their standards are subjective.
I have never understood the league table thing, if I like a girl I ask her out.
Is this a scheme to have more guys ask hot girls out because their rejection numbers aren't as high as they wish?
I guess I'm out of every girl's league.. Lol!
Thank you ! It is so heartwarming for the average guys like me :)
Big talk from the gender that's not expected to do all the approaching.
Don't get people's hopes up, especially when they don't have s chance. Some people simply out match others, don't fool them with false hopes now.
Yeah. The problem is not ONLY with the guys whorthink they're Not worthy. Its also with the gals who have that attitude.
I automatically assume every guy who talks to me is out of my league of he's drunk high or bored because I have a low opinion of myself and it sucks I'm highly aware of it but don't really attempt to fix it cause its like a defense mechanism
It's too deep, while it just seems to be shallow!!
Nice take @kaylaS91
None of that's true for the simple fact all those types of girls already think there so much better than you that average dudes don't even exist to them.
lol k. No need to be all bitter and pouty because some women fucked you over, or maybe because you chose to sugarcoat them simply being not interested by saying it's because they think they're 'too much better than you'.
I really like your take, was a fun read and solid advice.
Ah none of this matters I am 90% hairless and I can't ever get a hot girl I should have taken my chance when I was hot fuck this shit