Women should not be forced to date a nice guy (Page 6)

[Anonymous]

Nice guys aren't "nice" it's a term for a guy that will treat you right

[M_A_X]

You realize the opposite of nice is asshole right?

[cipher42]

Dude, that's not the point. The point is that just being nice doesn't make a man worth dating. There's a whole lot of other traits involved in determining compatibility, and yet so many guys seem to think that just because they're "Nice" women should be dating them.

[Vesuvius87]

He doesn't have to be neither of those two. While I don't want a guy that feels that just because he praises me, does favors and is acting like a friend (''nice'' but with a hidden agenda) I own him a date or relationship but neither do I want Chris Brown or Justin Bieber types.

The right one is actually the serious, decent guy, not an asshole nor ''nice guy''.

[Vesuvius87]

I should add assertive also is a good quality as well to. So therefore it would be serious, decent and assertive.

[M_A_X]

@Vesuvius87 I get it. You named yourself that because it's impossible for anybody to climb on top of you.

You don't know what you want as women. This is a plain and simple fact that both of you need to learn to deal with. You want a SEXY man to do nice guy things for you. Sexy desperate men who want your attention and nobody else's is the one thing you want. Tell me it's fucking not~

[Vesuvius87]

Sounds like according to you there can only be two men that are found within the polar extremes of the bell curve. You realize most people are in the middle; the majority aren't in the total right side of the curve nor in the total left side?

I doubt most decent guy are those with extreme anxiety issues or the ''living in his mother's basement'' types.

[Vesuvius87]

I think a man can be stable, not have a high count and be decent out of choice that doesn't do the whole ''pretending to be friends bs'' nor is an asshole.

[M_A_X]

@Vesuvius87 Okay, so in the middle is, do nice guy things like get you a card, and then call you a cunt right after. That's in the middle.

The fact of the matter is, you're trying to oversimplify something that is way more complicated than you initially realized and you can't find the words to do it.

Yes, you do doubt that "I doubt most decent guy are those with extreme anxiety issues or the ''living in his mother's basement'' types.". You doubt it because society tells you to. Because other people tell horror stories and you believe every word.

Everyone is a unique person. For you and pretty much every woman on earth to say "I don't want to date a man with anxiety because he will beat me or be abusive" is fucking retarded. Do you realize it's retarded? That's the conclusion you came to

[M_A_X]

@Vesuvius87 Also, MEN NEVER HAVE SOCIETY TELLING THEM WHO THEY SHOULD BE WITH. Except they do and you're a sexist for completely fucking ignoring that. I don't ignore women's problems, I recognize them as just as valid as a man's problems. The issue here is that all of you women like to act like men don't have any problems and it's ONLY WOMEN.

I'm making 21 goddamn dollars an hour and I've got problems. I'm not perfect. My shit stinks. And you know what? I don't act like men deserve special treatment because we're men. I don't ask for handouts or more bullshit. I don't make posts saying that men should NEVER DATE A FAT GIRL BECAUSE SHE HAS EMOTIONAL ISSUES

I don't make posts saying NEVER DATE A SKINNY GIRL BECAUSE SHE'S UNHEALTHY

I don't make posts saying NEVER DATE A WOMAN WITH LESS THAN A D CUP BECAUSE YOU DESERVE MORE

[Vesuvius87]

I'm clearly aware everyone has their own problems to deal with. It's only when someone feels entitled when things didn't work out the way they wanted that's annoying.

"Also, MEN NEVER HAVE SOCIETY TELLING THEM WHO THEY SHOULD BE WITH. Except they do and you're a sexist for completely fucking ignoring that."

So you might as well join the small group that are bitter and participant in a marching protest? I ain't participating in any protest. While those small groups want to protest, I get my popcorn and my own business regardless of gender.

[Vesuvius87]

**participate

[Vesuvius87]

mind my own business

[M_A_X]

@Vesuvius87 No, you don't protest because you know it's more effective to spread bullshit on websites like this~

Okay, so what you're saying then is, women feel entitled. Women get butthurt that society feels like they can have an opinion on who they should date. Women feel like society shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion. Am I on the right track here? And when things don't work out the way women want, they make topics like this. That's what you're saying, isn't it?

[M_A_X]

@Vesuvius87 I'm not bitching and saying society shouldn't have an opinion. Society can do whatever they want. You're the one crying and you don't realize it. I'm asking for equality here by asking to be treated the same. I realize we both have societal expectations. I'm not trying to change that.

"Blah blah blah REGARDLESS OF GENDER"

Except that you think women shouldn't have societal expectations put on them, but you have no problem with the societal expectations placed on men. So, that is REGARDING GENDER, not REGARDLESS OF IT

[Vesuvius87]

Only the asker isn't the one feeling entitled. She's referring to guys that think she owns them a date just for being ''nice''.

If a woman was acting in the same way, a woman whom the guy isn't attracted while she's still being all persistent and doing favors just to be nice but get all hurt when he declines, I think the same.

No one owns you a date just for being ''nice''.

[M_A_X]

@Vesuvius87 No, nobody does owe you a date for being "nice". I'm not going to argue that. What I will argue though, is that if someone is being "nice" and you know they are, then shut them down immediately otherwise you're playing games with their emotions.

If you know how they feel and what they're doing, and you don't stop it, you're just as bad as they are.

[Vesuvius87]

No societal expectations for women?

Well I wouldn't be happy if my teenaged brother was dating a girl that doesn't even work, is a HS dropped-out and expects him to pay on every single date. In that sense, I do believe in equal opportunities.

[Vesuvius87]

"If you know how they feel and what they're doing, and you don't stop it, you're just as bad as they are."

I think certain times, it's the case when you really thought they were just acting as a friend (as in really believe in), you never tried to lead them on and that's not playing with them but they were the ones think they deserve a date. That can happen too.

[M_A_X]

@Vesuvius87 I'm arguing that there are societal expectations for men and women. I don't know who you're talking to now

[M_A_X]

@Vesuvius87 I'm more than aware that sometimes the other person won't realize it's happening, but every time you do and you don't stop it, you're making it worse

[genuinlysensitive]

Lol, glad someone else saw that.

[TheSpartan]

Women are "forced" to date nice guys?

[evenlift]

Women need 'safe spaces' from 'triggering' opinions, LOL.

[genuinlysensitive]

Anything that women don't like they feel they are "forced" to do. They don't like nice guys to they accuse society of trying to "force" them to date nice guys.

[BlackDynamite83]

Yes we must force them at gun point lol

[StickStickity13]

These types of takes have been done before

[Anonymous]

Whelp, good luck being beaten by some douche.

[Lonewolf_1296]

Lucky you, you aren't.

[Dylanguest1989]

I'm a nice guy but you dint have to date me.

[xxcchhllaauu]

no one's forcing you besides no one's 100% nice

[Anonymous]

nice guys are better!

[Anonymous]

Thank you posting this

[BackInGame]

nice guy = ugly.

[ScruffynateAK]

No shit.
Filler.

[Mikaylatee]

Here here!!!