Men, you are the catch not women!

[Anonymous]

The modern man today acts as if women are the prize, while they must slave and work away at school, gym to prove they are worthy of getting a woman. What men don't realize is that you are the catch not women.

Let's look at the many ways, men are the catch:

1. Dating/Relations

When it comes to dating and relationships, men are the ones who put in all the work, while women passively just go along for the ride using down a guy money, and waiting for him to choose what dates to go on (or in some cases suggest what dates they should go on in which the man will pay). Now I'm sure some of you females on gag are foaming at the mouth at this, but in dating men are still expect to approach (face rejection), plan out dates, be the entertainers of the relationship and pay for most things. While women just decide whether she enjoys the man company or not to want to get into a relationship with him.

2. Men are expected to slave and put in place things before women give them a chance at dating.

I've literally seen older women tell younger girls that they should not mess with a man until he has 2 keys (1 for his house and his car). For men who are average/below average in looks, the modern day women will not give you a chance at dating her for the most part unles you bust your ass in school to get a nice job, place and car.

I'm sure their are outliers where men who are legitamitely homeles and ugly getting women but for the most part women pass over men in their age group to date older guys who are already in a well established career making money. I've seen this far to often in my medical school. Where I'd wager 30% of young girls are dating doctors or guys in successful career outside of school, 50% are content with staying single and 20% are dating guys 1 year above.

The point here is beauty is depreciating value that goes down with age. Women are valued primarily for their looks which gets worse every year due to most women not taking care of themselves and putting on makeup which damages their skin. Also the biological reason of them having thinner skin which makes them more prone to sun damage.

While men are primary tied to social status and money which usually goes up as a man progresses in his career.

Status+Money >> Beauty.

3. Different beauty standards and more of a social pressure by men.

Thanks to hypergamy, female freedom in sexual expressoin. Many women have reduce back to the basic 80/20 rule when it comes to sex/relationship. Tinder study posted here recently on GAG showed women like muscular men. So guys who look like this are gettig most of the sex/relationships from multiple women:

The standards women have for men is actually quite ridiculous. Some of which includes height (genetic) causing many men to take risky surgies just to get a couple inches for women to give them a chance. A perfect example of this was a man who was 5'6 and did a risky bone lengthening surgery that could of caused him to become paralyzed so he could be 5'8. He met his wife who was 5'7 some time later and when asked if she would of married him, if she met him at his original height, she said probably not.

We also have things now of men going into surgery to get right nose, jaw because women prefer a nice face over body. Yet, still more men are busting their butts in the gym than women to get that aesthetic body so they can be considered worthy by women.

Meanwhile men are just fine with an obese girl, skinny fat girl or even a slightly chubby girl to be their girlfiend. So women for the most part just rely on makeup, buying clothes and doing their hair to attract men. They put on pounds over the years and most girls once they leave college ballon up into fat whales by their late 20's and beyond because the pressure of them having to be skinny to get love is not there.

While it's true many guys let themselves go, more men take an active approach in maintain a healthy athletic body and continue to look aesthetic.

I can't tell you how many older guys in their 30's and 40's who still have good bodies in the gym where I'm at. Meanwhile women in this age group just look like someones mom. While they are the top tier, I still find men in their 30's and 40's hav maintained their youthful body better than women overall.

4. Makeup

Makeup is a very deceptive thing that can make an ugly women become pretty.

So men see a girl with makeup and go awe she's a 8, totally hot. What they don't see is if we wipe away all that makeup she is not all that pretty and you are most likely better than her in looks. Think about it. Men can get out of bed and go out in the world with no one making a fuss of them looking completely differnet. Meanwhile women need to go through 30 mins - 1 hour applying a mask on their face to look "presentable" to the world.

Now I know their are some women who look totally awesome without makeup but they are just as much if not more women who use makeup excessively to hide acne scar and what not.

[Anonymous]

You're a disgrace. If you cannot realize that women have fought bravely for centuries for equality, that they work just as hard if not harder than men just to earn their right to be alongside them, if you cannot see the pressures women go through to look beautiful and be treated equal then you sir are no prize at all.
Just like men, some women take a paid-for approach but many women work their asses off to stay fit and healthy. I workout twice a day and you're saying every woman just let's themselves go? Just uses clothes to look good? Aren't athletic?

Mia Hamm, Vanessa Williams, Hope Solo, and Laila Ali all disagree with you on that.

Men will never have to suffer being thought of as mentally inferior because of their physical appearance. Men will never struggle to earn as much as women because of biased gender inequality. Men will never be forced into a society where most of them start dieting by 8 years old. Men will never go through pains and bleeding for a week every month. Men will never carry a living, breathing child in their stomach for nine months. Men will never need to breast feed and nurture that child, and they will always have the option to run away. Men will never work tremendously to get their pre-pregnancy figure back, just to make their husband happy. And men could never do all that whilst keeping a smile on their face.

So if you think men are more of a prize than a woman you really don't know anything.

"One girl is worth twenty boys" -J. M. Barrie

[ihatethiswebsite]

Putting down men doesn't make you look any better than him.

[889889]

You show your emotions way to much.. haha, isn't better to just stat men are equals to women and vice versa? You had a point earlier but you clearly lost it in the end just because you were offended.

[AdamThomas]

So which is it?

1) People who claim that one gender is worth more than the other are a disgrace

2) One gender is worth twenty of the other gender

You can only pick one.

[truthhammer]

So if you want equality, go 50/50 on bills. You guys don't fit for equality, u want to own men as worker bees

[truthhammer]

if you guys were as capable and put in as muh as we do in every case, you wouldn't even need to fight for equality.

[DBAOracle]

LMAO, you're hilarious!!
"fought bravely for centuries for equality" Keep this as note #1.
"you cannot see the pressures women go through to look beautiful"
You look beautiful for yourself, the only one you're doing a favor is you.

"be treated equal" Keep this as note #2.

"thought of as mentally inferior because of their physical appearance." Isn't that a good thing? Let's be totally honest, if you come up with the argument that men are somehow mentally inferior you'll easily be neutralized since the vast majority of scientists that built everything that you're enjoying were men. Is the male to female ratio among scientists equal? Nope.

"start dieting by 8 years old."
Society is arbitrary, this is not males' fault, girls like to compete with one another.

For the pregnancy stuff, blame nature. That's not our fault either. You never had to deal with dangers of hunting and wild predators. Pregnancy is 9 months, hunting is for a lifetime.

[DBAOracle]

You feminists are so quick to speak of equality and such but alas, always end up showing your true colors.

"One girl is worth twenty boys" -J. M. Barrie + note #1 + note #2 =/= equality.

Add one to the "feminism = female supremacy" team. :P :P

[fashionguy17]

You women keep yapping about "equality"... BUT you make the man make the first move, pay for dates, etc. Where's the equality in that?

[fashionguy17]

The dating world is not equal as well and only works in favor of women

[Opinion Owner]

You are all so horribly wrong and you make me sad at our state of living.

And as for there being more male scientists, that is (quite obviously actually) due to women not being allowed the same rights for so many years. Think about it logically, women weren't even allowed to write books at one point and had to use male names to publish them. If we weren't even allowed to write books, how were we supposed to become scientists?

All of this is by nature isn't it? You're stating that by nature you think you're better, and I'm arguing against it.

As for my J. M. Barrie quote, that is simply there to show you that their are two sides to every argument, and although you think it's unanimous, the opinion of which gender is superior is debatable, fifty/fifty, and will be debated until the end of time.

In conclusion, shut up, stop trying to convince yourselves you're better than women, and just be good people, to all genders. Sound fair enough?

[BiscuitesSwag]

If myTakes could have a MHO or something, this deffinetly would be it! 🙏

[Opinion Owner]

@BiscuitesSwag <3 <3 <3 :)

[DBAOracle]

"that is (quite obviously actually) due to women not being allowed the same rights for so many years."
That didn't prevent some female scientists from appearing during the darker days of women rights. And that's not a valid excuse either, look at the lists of scientists alive today in which women mostly have the same privileges as men, the male to female ratio is still very large.

"You're stating that by nature you think you're better."
Please point me to where I stated this. I never stated that women are less than men but I also never stated that women are worth more than men, don't manipulate my words...

"stop trying to convince yourselves you're better than women, and just be good people, to all genders." W0t, mate? Where did I say that any gender is better than the other?

[UtopianLobotomy]

Have babies without dads, find out who dad is if you want to, make him pay child support yet never let him see his kids.
Or use birth control and just be hypergamous until your SMV decreases.
Buy sperm and artificially inseminate yourself.
False rape accusations.
Men who are in their children's lives and were with their mom for awhile, married or living together, if mom wants to take the kids mom can manipulate the courts and use both the courts and the children as a weapon to utterly destroy the man, make him completely insane and go on sites like this at four fucking AM and rant about it, there is no logical reason I should even be alive, this world must be my hell.
Women own reproduction now, they are the keepers of it they decide who dad will be and then if they want him to even be allowed to be dad. Women can play the law and the courts when it comes to a child they pushed out, many of them own their men who might be in positions of authority.

[Opinion Owner]

@UtopianLobotomy Rewrite that with some intelligence and maybe I'll respond pal lmao

[UhDopeDude]

Yea they work harder at Perkin up their tits before a job interview at a resturant/bar/strip club... And they work way harder than us at work when we are building houses and sweating are asses off for 40-50 hours a week.. Doing back breaking ass labor , masonry/construction/plumbing/landscaping/Movers... Yea... You couldn't work harder than the weakest man I know on your best day... Just admit it...

[UhDopeDude]

@889889 ALLLLL OF THEM

[UhDopeDude]

@AdamThomas I just think that men are strong, and they deserve some recognition for takingthe initiative in every relationship, facing rejection at every turn, all girls have to do is say "sorry, no" we have to muster up the courage to look her in the eyes, walk up to her while trying to figure out what's best to say, and transfer that from our brain to our nervous mouths... Just to hear "sorry, no" like... All I want is a pat on the back I'll never get lol... That's it

[UhDopeDude]

Excuse me ms, BUT I HARDLLLYYYY think you are trying to create the impression that you believe men and women are equal... I'm pretty damn sure you are HELL BENT on prooving that YOU are better than all men. If that wasn't your objective then why bother commenting? If you KNEW you were "equal" then why state your oh so very controversial opinion..

[alphadoggystyle]

Its you who are horribly wrong, men are definitely superior to women, just deal with it.

Think about it, western feminist societies caters to the weak and opressed, women get a lot of benefit from being the "oppressed" sex, but the primarily reason why they were oppressed to begin with, is because they are inferior.

[ConsultantIsBack]

Ya personally I see an attractive guy is more rare than an attractive woman. Less and less men are matriculating and graduating from universities, tons of guys are fat dad bods, tons of guys just rot away in front of video games, tons of guys don't know what hygiene is beyond taking a shower (and even then, many fail at that).

After you go through the basic filters of a socially normal guy, then a sense of humor, then ambition and some promise of a legitimate income (as in an actual career, not some dumbass dream about getting big off penny stocks or something lol), and then works out and takes care of his body... you are left with not a large percentage of men in my opinion.

And that's before other preferences, like tall guys, guys with abs and muscularity, guys with jawline, guys that can cook or whatever.

[LiveFreeorDieHard]

Right, there are a lot more attractive girls then guys, thats why it sucks for girls because a girl who is a 8 and could be dating guys her level or above are kind of forced to stay si gle or get with a guy below her level. I mean, this whole this is kind of shallow but it does exist.

[UtopianLobotomy]

If you don't want to just sleep with skanks, and you want an attractive intelligent woman that you can connect with on an emotional level - her insecurities (why is he interested in me, what's wrong with him? He's not honest?) and other prejudices kick in. It isn't easy out there for anyone man.

[ConsultantIsBack]

@LiveFreeorDieHard Agreed

[alphadoggystyle]

this is because it is a lot easier to be an attractive woman than it is to be an attractive man, as shown by this mytake. A woman only needs some tits and ass (doesnt even need to be that excessive to be considered good enough), and a decent face to be considered attractive. Her height does not matter to most men, women can use makeup to make their face look 1 or 2 levels better which is another reason why you would be fooled thinking that most women look better than most men, sadly women think they deserve a guy who looks on par with them when they are wearing makeup while guys cannot use makeup. And getting a nice ass and getting rid of extra fat takes way less effort in the gym compared to getting a toned and built body than men are expected to have. Finally most men dont really give a damn about a womans career, she could be a nurse or working in a store, most women dont have highly impressive careers just because they graduate more often than men.

[ConsultantIsBack]

@alphadoggystyle good points man

[myTake Owner]

@alphadoggystyle s11.postimg.org/.../japanese_man_makeup_girl.jpg

Makeup is magic.

[Tanuron]

Certainly many interesting things with all of this, a lot of it from the comments too. People call it trolling, hate, etc but then preceed to hate. Wasent my impression by far that this was done to be hateful or trolling, the mytake has it flaws sure, but pretty ironic that. And i kinda agree to that the Men are the catch, not women. And i know too if there was a mytake that stated women were a catch it would be praised by the typical "you go girl" attitude. Its generally percived as such too, that women are a catch, dont see why its so insulting to say or think its the other way around.

Although I wouldn't really say it dvelved into why exactly men are the catch as much, but few reasons I think so.

1. Lets face it, there are a lot of douchbags, no doubt are a lot of bad apples too from the lady side as well naturally, but sadly a lot of males have kinda grown into the belief the more woman the better mentality. So generally speaking they are more likely to just live life without settling down and to maybe be faithful as well. Thus to find a nice guy who dosent live by this and are faithful is a catch. Which leads me to the next point.

2. Emotions. So many guys again are taught to basically become rocks, supress their emotions, be tough and so on. Generally speaking again women dont really have this problem, its always been more okay for a girl to cry than a guy as well as showing emotions. Its more commonly accepted anyway. Which naturally again, can lead to a lot of stupidness from males again, either they may always deny what they feel or they dont won't be able to grow to be able to show other people feelings like they should, love included. They may understand it all even, but be unable to express it. Why another reason a decent guy again would be a catch, someone who has found this balance against the odds. To be able to be a nourisher and a proper provider emotionally.

Anyway, guess dont really have enough room to properly explain it all, but few was a few thingies anyway. I kinda wish so too anyway that many guys who are decent, if they are as such anyway, wouldn't worry so much that they can't find a girl, cause a girl should be finding you. Cause nice guys, real ones dont grow on trees sadly. they can be a gem, thus again a catch.

[myTake Owner]

In regard to your point #2. Women also tend to lose respect for men who show their vulnerable and emotional side to them.

[Tanuron]

True they do, yet they need it and won't accept a lifelong partner without it, while not everyone do it, too many ridicule a guys feelings no doubt then wonder why they dont talk about their feelings to them etc, lol.

[cjs33139]

This article is full of crock; and I am a dude. A gay one at that, but still a dude who has dated women in my past life and who has befriended mostly women, so I've heard all their stories about their love lives; and I am quite confident in saying that this diatribe is from a dude who has insecurity issues and a hatred of women... wait... not just women in general; but goodlooking women! The men who bitch about women not wanting them and complain about women being superficial are so hypocritical because they are just as superficial, ageist, body elitist as the women he is bitching about!!! As for women preferring "muscular" men, he is so wrong. I don't know what women he is hanging out with or pursuing (maybe he deserves superficial, arrogant women), but none of the pretty women I ever consulted with about muscular men have EVER preferred muscles... EVER!! If anything, when I've pointed out men in muscle mags with veiny bodies, they almost always say GROSS!! That it does not turn them on. If anything, it's gay guys who are attracted to bodybuilders and muscles. What I CAN say is that those same women did have a preference for lean, fit guys, but that is far from preferring bodybuilders and muscular guys, like the author claims. Again, he must be pursuing cheap, superficial women with marbles for brains.

As for young women mostly preferring older men; that is crock too. Again, he needs to stop generalizing because just like men, women are a complex varied group. Yes, they do want a man who is stable, but that is because women are tired of dating scrubs with no aspirations. I would expect straight men seeking a wife/gf to have just as high standards... like why would you date a woman addicted to meth or prefer food stamps and multiple baby daddies over a job/career? Ummm, hello! If that is being superficial, then so be it. No one wants to date a loser; either male or female!

No doubt this guy is just mad at hot women because all I read in his diatribe is how women in general are ugly without makeup, women get old, blah blah blah. Dude, women have more societal expectations to live up to than men do anyday. Those societal standards like wearing makeup? Who made those rules? Men. Not women. Try dating cute women who are nice, kind, have good morals instead of the arrogant superficial Spring-break hoes you keep pursuing and maybe instead you will find a relationship and fidelity. But if you pursue hot women, you best be hot too.

[Anonymous]

Lol it's funny you say most guys workout because I don't know anyone who looks as good as that. You will see more guys that don't lift than do lift. It's also proven that women care more about image because of the pressure on the media and opposite sex. Cosmetic surgery has gone up in the past 6 years for men (facelifts being the most common, that's usually for older men) but women still get more yearly (breast and butt implants, knoes jobs, liposuction, tummy tucks, lifts.). Most women are less picky about body shape than men are. If you do a poll on here you can see that for yourself as well as on the streets. Ask men that have a body and face like you just shared how picky they are, I guarantee you they won't go dating some chubby/fat chick. They're not settling for under an 8. Most girls that wear make up don't change as drastically as the before/after you shared. Not without professional help and photo editor. Most women wear makeup but not to the point they morph their face. Most of the time you can tell how much makeup they have on when you get close enough also. I'm not going to mention the rest that your twisted observation of women and men are. I've lost interest and no one can ever change anyone's mind once they really believe something. Good luck finding a good girl, with the way you look at things and probably treat women you're gonna need it. 🍀

[altair212]

you proved his point "goodluck finding a good girl" he doesn't need to find one, one needs to find him :)

[Opinion Owner]

Actually I didn't. For him to find a good girl he'd have to believe there are some out there. He'd also not be trying to put men on a pedestal instead of finding a relationship where you're equally important to each other. He won't find someone good because he's not going to think much of her. If he talks had w he thinks slurs screwed in finds someone of substance. She's need to think he's a "catch" when he's hating on her. Thank god more men can see that both sexes have it hard and just deal with it instead of making a cry for me take.

[Opinion Owner]

*if he talks the way he thinks l, he's screwed in finding...*

[Almostragan]

A lot of this is inconsistent. You blame women for wanting a man to be tall because it is genetic, but you criticize women for aging and not being born naturally beautiful. Also, you say that men maintain their bodies as they age, but men also maintain naturally higher metabolism, making this typically easier for men, not to be fit, but to be a healthy weight. Also, you seem to imply that fit, healthy men are dating obese women, which is certainly not a trend that I have noticed. You seem to be implying that men put more effort into their appearances, but you also say that they can leave the house with little maintenance while women spend time on hair and makeup. You say that old women look like someone's mother, but, naturally, old men must look just as much like someone's father. You say that women prefer older men with status and men prefer younger women with better looks, but you seem to be only blaming women for this, after having stated that men usually approach women first. Logically, that must mean that they are the first to express their preference and are, therefore, no less responsible for this tendency. This argument is illogical and defies common sense.

[Minxxie]

No one is the prize in a relationship, you are just as bad as the people you are bashing here. All I want from my relationship is teamwork and to watch each other grow and succeed in life. I don't date older men because they are usually creeps with a weird fetish for girls as young as their daughter, and they have more money and life experience which gives them more power in the relationship which is a bad situation to put yourself into! My boyfriend and I are both broke students working our way through university together just trying to build successful careers and cheering each other on.
You are the type of guy who thinks he is god's gift to women and no woman will ever be good enough for you, no matter how amazing she really is you will always try to find something wrong. You will be unable to be part of a team in a relationship and will drive every woman away from you eventually. I know your type and I steer clear! All I wanted from a relationship was love, teamwork, and fun and that is what I have. I didn't intend to settle down so soon in my life, but when you find the right person and you can support each other and help each other succeed you can't let that person pass you by!

[CrazynKinky]

Ok well the guy in the first video was just a douche. I'm for actual equality and girls planning dates and I'm hoping that was suppose to just be a dramatization of a feminist date but honestly. I go on date and I have never once expected a guy to pay for me and I've paid for guys. I've driven out of my way to go pick guys up for a date and I've never expected someone to pick me up.

Considering most people start dating at 16 clearly they don't have to be established to get a date. As long as they're not some scum sitting on their mommies couch not working or wasting all of their income on garbage and putting themselves in debt they stand a chance. Even if they do do that they can still get a girl sadly.

Physical looks seriously. People need to get over this yes men are body shamed too there is no denying that and it's just as bad as people body shaming women but you honestly think that men have it worse. There are women that go for all body shapes even hot ones. We are told in every media that we have to look a certain way to get guys there are movies about the loser guy winding up with the girl and never had to change their looks but in any movie where the girl gets the guy she goes through this huge make over to look a certain way.

Ah make up I've never looked at a man and went god why doesn't he put some make up on. I've never judge him for the bags under his eyes or the imperfections in his face. As where women are instantly expected to cover up any imperfections. Proof have a girl without make up talk to people all you hear is are you sick you, look tired, did you not have time to do your make up this morning?

We are all human beings not prizes! Getting someone isn't about winning a lottery it's about loving the person your with. I don't know whos reject you so much to make you so bitter but just because it's your experience doesn't mean every girls the same. Just like not all guys are the same.

[alphadoggystyle]

He is not bitter, he is just telling it like it is, facts. And there is nothing he wrote that suggests he has been rejected badly or anything, everybody gets rejected at one point especially men since we are the ones who do all the work for the most part. You dont have to be bitter at all to notice the things he wrote are completely true.

[CrazynKinky]

@alphadoggystyle how is this how it is he grouped every female in to being exactly the same and I like that you ignored everything else I said and only went to the fact that I said he was bitter. You don't write an entire mytake without being slightly bitter. You don't want it to be like that then don't be. God I'm sick of people saying men do all the work. Go for different girls than pretty basic. There's lots out there that do just as much work.

[alphadoggystyle]

It goes without saying that there is outliers and exceptions to every rule. What he is saying is just generally the truth. And rarely do women work hard for men who are on their level, and pretty much never below, they only time they seem to work hard with any regularity is when they are dating a man who is better than themselves, and even in those cases they sometimes dont dare to work because they are too scared to get hurt and just assumes the man is gonna play her since he has many options.

[CrazynKinky]

@alphadoggystyle People don't have levels. No one is better than anyone else! The only people that matters to is shallow pricks. I don't know what sad bubble you live in but it sounds like it's a shitty one.

[alphadoggystyle]

Wrong, people definitely do have levels, its the basis for a lot of the selection process of women. If people didn't have levels women wouldn't be able to filter out the countless of men that hit on them without even getting to know them first, this is where the superficial values come into play and everyone know they matter if you want to get chance to even show who you are as a person. The exceptions are if you happen to work at the same place or go to the same school etc, but those need some luck to happen.

People who think everybody has the same value are deluding themselves, its not true in practice. You think if it came down to it, you are as valuable as the president of a country? or that a third world country child is treated by the world as if he/she was as valuable as a white person from a western country? get real people can be better than others, and if you want to get really technical, men are better than women, practically speaking we are capable of more.

[CrazynKinky]

@alphadoggystyle the president is just another human being and looking at who's been president pretty sure if you want people to be on levels they're dirt. I didn't say people aren't treated like they are on levels. Of course they are doesn't mean they truly are. Women don't sort through men on a "level" you can't know someones "level" by a glance yes some try he's not wearing expensive clothes etc. They sort through them different ways.

You want to make people more than they are. You want to choose to be that because that is a choice. Then you just stated why men aren't the prize. Why they will always be the prize. Men throw themselves at anything with a heartbeat. You want equality gain some standards.

[alphadoggystyle]

The president is human but he is not just another human, he is the president and is capable of doing far more than a simple person doing a simple middle class job. There is no way you can argue this. Its not objective its fact, regardless how you define "value" the most objective one would be net worth and or/power, so someone like donald trump would definitely be worth more than someone like you or me even if he is as evil as some people claim hm to be. If someone is a good or bad person is subjective, but capability and net worth etc are objective factors, he is on another level simply. Women definitely sort out guys based on percieved value because they cannot possible get to know all the guys she is physically attracted to. They simply have to many options unless they are the type of girl who avoid social media at all costs, which are a small minority of women.
And how are men not the prize? in every objective comparison we are capable of more simply by being men.

[alphadoggystyle]

cont. some women are better than some men, like for example hillary clinton is better than majority of men on the planet, but simply by comparing genders, men gain many biological and technical advantages by simply being men. Most of the advantages women have in life is simply because we allow them to have it. For example women would never have been allowed to vote if men didn't let them, all the privileges women enjoy in life is simply because men let it be like that. feminism wouldn't exist unless men catered to women, feminist society caters to and supports the weak, but if society returned to survival of the fittest etc, then women would again have very few rights.

[CrazynKinky]

@alphadoggystyle I don't believe money makes you better than anyone. I don't believe your job makes you better than someone else. So the president is just a normal human being. Donald Trump can lose all his money probably won't but wealthy people lose their jobs and their money all the time. If you go for someone because they're a lawyer. Well what if something happens and they couldn't be or they couldn't handle the stress.

How are the prize? Because they have money welcome to 2016 so do women, because they have houses women buy those too. This isn't the 20s women aren't just little house wives. We don't live with our parents till were married and be courted. How are you capable of more exactly?
Prize:
"a thing given as a reward to the winner of a competition or race or in recognition of another outstanding achievement"

So by everything you both have said men do all the work to get a girl which is why men can't be a prize.

[CrazynKinky]

@alphadoggystyle You do realize the world didn't start like that right. There are plenty of cultures that women get more respect that men. Men didn't let things happen women fought for it. What happened when a mass amount of women quit working and doing what they were told they had to oh ya things went to hell. If our society went back to survival of the fittest one your president would be dead as well as Donald and all those people that are so respected. You know who would survive and plenty of them would be women the middle class. The hard working blue collar people. Your talking like men are the only people that hunt and start fire and make shelter. Like women are these weak little breakable things. Seriously what world do you live in

[alphadoggystyle]

What you believe doesn't matter, because we are talking about objective things which we can measure and accurately compare, like wealth and resources, accomplishments etc. Regardless if a lawyer or a president loses his job, he still accomplished more than vast majority of people, but obviously if someone loses his job or position, his value decreases, i dont see how that contradicts anything i said.

Also you are now talking about the literal meaning of the word "price" which was not the thing we where talking about, we where talking about being a prize the same way you can be a "catch" as mentioned in the mytake, essentially being valuable to the other gender. And men bring more value to the table than women do in general as perfectly demonstrated by this mytake.

[alphadoggystyle]

you're wrong again, anatomically modern humans where patriarchal from the beginning. there is no evidence of any unambiguously matriarchal societies in the known history of the world. Women have rights because men eventually let them have it, because it was considered to be the best resolution for a modern society. Regardless how much women would have fought, they could never have achieved equal rights unless men allowed it, because women could never take it by force being the weaker sex.
And sure some women would survive in a survival of the fittest situation, but men would easily have the upper hand, women wouldn't be able to protect themselves as easily, rapists would be able to roam free, most of the military and armed forces are men, and those that can handle guns would dominate. Also women in general cannot handle conflict as well as men, so yeah as always in history the high ranking positions would naturally go to men, and the disparity would be much greater in such a scenario

[UtopianLobotomy]

It doesn't matter if you look like that guy, life has been unnecessarily complicated in some ways and oversimplified in other ways. People are more than surface deep no matter how shallow your perception of them is. Finding the "right" woman is hard, women either feel intimidated by men who look like that, and if they aren't stereotypical "studs" they get all wierded out if a man doesn't fit into a prefabricated category that cosmo and society tend to put people in. Everyone is guilty of these types of judgments. Relationships between men and women have been complicated by the bad philosophy pushed by bankers / the elite (also the industrial revolution and other factors).

We are more than how we look on the surface, it takes patience, love and understanding to really get to know someone. There are so many easier paths a person can take, selfish paths. Ironically in this era of social media, we are becoming more alone, it isn't just me, but there is something truly wrong with society. I am happy for those people who have good family, friends, significant other (usually a wife or husband) but its human nature to be a bit jealous, we all need to learn what love is and help each other out more. People obsessed with how they look are hurting, they are longing to feel accepted and desired, but no one taught them morals when they were younger and that it is our actions, sure being healthy and presentable at social gatherings is fine, but this obsession these days is Victorian elitist era type of madness, it isn't unique and original its narcissism to the umpth degree, we need love and you can see it, read it on your FB feed. People are hurting.

[UtopianLobotomy]

I agree with your premise, women are put on such a high pedestal and if you don't have a beautiful girlfriend its like you are some weirdo, its funny how complicated and reversed life has become, it is against biology and you can see the poverty confusion and despair all of it causes people. The genders are not equal and they should not be competing on all levels because we are not equal on all levels, I mean this from a purely factual and scientific pov. Equal rights does not mean that a person with two arms and legs who knows how to swim is no more obligated than a crippled person who doesn't know how to swim to save a someone who is drowning, common sense would say that the person who can swim should be more obligated to save the person, it doesn't mean that the person who can swim has more or less rights than the person who can't swim.

I'm bored, it was a great take.

[damnwinter]

Alright, here goes:

1. Just because you may fall into that category... oh, dear. I have seen this so many times. Guys who don't even have the innitiative of planning a date once you officially become ;their girlfriend'. Unfortunately, this is the majority, as far as I have noticed. Being passive, as a woman, is nearly impossible nowadays, because many, many men lack innitiative and imagination. What can I say but 'thank you freakin feminists'.

2. This right here is the product of a faulty, superficial education. This would be unconceivable in my family and to everyone I know. Believe me, that is NOT the majority. Hang in there.

3. Sorry you feel this way,. This is actually a problem that affects both sexes. And if for guys, this is limited to having an athletic body, for us, women, it's even worse. Not to mention the amount of money we spend just to keep up with average beauty habits. Also, the whole pregnancy thing really fucks us up.

4. TOTALLY, totally agree. Just to give away a little info on how this can actually affect many of us, though women are the 'deceivers' in this one: believe me, it all turns against us the moment we see our crush/partner drooling over some celebrity. Because celebrities not only have make up to hide their imperfections, but there's a whole team of people using all kinds of software to create someone who will eventually look almost completely different than their real appearance. And for some reason, guys choose to ignore that. Also, it's a vicious circle. Say I stop using make up. But I'll find myself walking with my partner on the street and very bothered by him admiring all the women who do use it. And can you blame him? They'll have sexy red lips, perfectly defined eyebrows and a clear, perfect complexion. And that, my friend, is why most of us won't stop using make up,

[Anonymous]

Lets get two things straight
I`ll start with myself, so you get who I´m in a relationship.
1) My boyfriend is taller then me yes, but we are the same age and almost have the same income.
2) I fell for him after we had been friends for over 3 months, personality matters a lot to me.
3) We pay equally. If he pays for the movie then I´ll pay for the snacks, if I pay for dinner then he`ll buy ice cream on the way home.
Its pretty easy, actually its a ideology of equality between the genders called Feminism, I advice you to look it up.
4) I asked him out, after a few months of flirtations.

Second of all. No, most guys do not look hotter then females with or without makeup, now I´m not saying females are hotter I´m just simply saying the genders are pretty equally in the matter these days.
Don`t belive me just go on a freaking beach where everybody is makeup free and half naked.

by the way just because you show a bunch of photos of hot guys doesn´t mean all guys look like that. What you are doing with those images is propaganda, please show some realistic looking guys too, you are yourself creating impossible beauty standars for men with those kind of images.

[Anonymous]

I'm just glad I don't really do the whole casual dating thing, which is where the vast majority of this crap happens.
Acquainting in more standard social scenarios is something I prefer regardless, as a casual first date tends to be a lot of faking and trying to impress the other from both sides. When acquainting I can simply be myself and all parties involved tend to be less judging. It seems much more genuine that way, too. Not to mention not being expected to pay for fancy expensive crap to try and "woo" someone.

Granted I only had a few successes this way as I'm not actively searching for romance, but the few times I at least had some idea of the woman's personality and knew there was some click at least. With the few casual dates I tried, I always ended up disappointed finding out their personality was faked. Maybe casual dating needs a mindset I don't have, maybe I'm just missing something, but seeing how many people seemingly get annoyed by the whole casual dating scene it makes me wonder why people keep trying.

As for this myTake, it seems rather aggressive towards women for the sake of supporting men. I understand as nowadays it's relatively common and without repercussion that people (mostly bitter women) can ridicule and otherwise bash men for existing, but fighting generalizations with generalizations won't win you any significant battles. There are crappy men and crappy women out there, narcissistic self-entitled men and women alike. They don't represent their gender as a whole, and reacting to the genders as a whole as if they do only hurts yourself and the decent people (men and women alike) in the long run.

[Anonymous]

Fuck dating and FUCK relationships.

Actually divorced men are far more likely to commit suicide due to nazi courts and society... It is also a FACT that wives nag their husbands to an early death... Monks live very long, and they DON'T even have sex or look at women. Men are also stuck in most dangerous jobs which women won't do, accounting for almost all workplace fatalities... This whole idea that women are required for a healthy life is a fucking feminazi joke. Marriage is also linked to much higher heart disease rate.

Men also account for 80% of suicides since feminism and also 80% of homeless people because someone is always ready to take a woman in. Men are an oppressed group and face craptons of discrimination on a daily basis. There is simply no comparison.

There is also murderous discrimination by the feminazi healthcare system despite the fact that health care spending for men is nearly twice as effective. Women also consume two thirds of public spending. Approximately one in four men reported experiencing discrimination in the health care setting.

[ShaeNielson]

Don't get married then? No one is forcing you. If you were to die alone it's not like the women of the world will weep, they'll be out there living their lives with all the awesome non-butthurt-super-fragile male specimens.

[Opinion Owner]

LOL die alone. Women have never been for company...

It's MUCH better to be single than with a modern woman

[jacquesvol]

@ Anonymous
Feminazi?

https://i.imgur.com/lNk7UjF.png

[Opinion Owner]

The 69 year old feminist troll again... The sooner the 50+ generation dies off the sooner we'll start getting equality.

[UtopianLobotomy]

@ShaeNielson Girl, you are seventeen. You don't have a clue what it is like to have your kids taken away and not being able to see them.

[ShaeNielson]

@UtopianLobotomy That is true, but how the justice system is broken doesn't make women the core of evil.

[ShaeNielson]

@Asker And I will say it once again; no woman will suffer any loss by not being with you. If you're too weak to be in a relationship then don't bother. Im sorry your sexist ass weren't born when women were oppressed, but you're just gonna have to deal with it.

[alphadoggystyle]

@ShaeNielson no, a large ammount of women will die alone or with cats, being ignored and feeling depressed as their value plummeted with their age and they never bothered to improve their personality or let go of their unrealistic expectations. This mytake is full of truth and you can expect the same result unless you grow some humility.

[ShaeNielson]

@alphadoggystyle So because I refuse to bow down to the glory of the male gender, I need to grow some humility? Sorry to say but if it came to that I'd rather die alone than live with a pretentious prick much like yourself.

[alphadoggystyle]

@ShaeNielson You can do whatever you want, but the irony is that just because of inflated self worth and entitlement of women, due to feminism and being spoiled since birth, many women are going to have a hard time finding something which makes them happy, when you meet a guy who fits your high standards you are unlikely to be able to make him commit, since such a man would be much higher value than you are, so there is no reason for him to commit to you when he can get better. So until women are willing to accept to date men who are on their own level instead of dating men above them (hypergamy etc) then they will continue to get dumped used etc and start to hate men and die alone in their bitterness and refusal to accept that they dont deserve as much as they thought they did.

[ShaeNielson]

@alphadoggystyle Generalization 101

[alphadoggystyle]

@ShaeNielson nah just the sad reality of things.

[ShaeNielson]

@alphadoggystyle Sure, if you're a male chauvinist.

[alphadoggystyle]

@ShaeNielson nope, what i said is objectively true, and im simply a realist.

[ShaeNielson]

@alphadoggystyle If you say so.

[Stacyzee]

This is true for some women. You really cannot lump us all in one category.

Although I will add,

I think people are way too hard on women.
We go through so much more physical change than men do with their bodies.
Women have multiple pregnancies (which MAY/MAY NOT contribute to loss of beauty).
The weight may not stay on but stretch marks, loose/wrinkled skin, is something that cannot go away without surgery or laser treatment.

Women in their 40's-50s also go through menopause which further can change their appearance and effect the way their body and skin looks.

Men, go through neither of that.
Men are way too harsh on women about an appearance that they only have "some" control over.

[Stacyzee]

Soo much physical and hormonal change takes place with a woman. It really gets a lot of women , out of wack after a while!

Lets not even count periods how they further effect our bodies!

[UhDopeDude]

So women! Are the catch and not men right! Since your arguing.. That must be your point? So keep them on the pedestal... Ok

[Stacyzee]

How about you see the point of what I am writing instead of trying to argue? This isn't a Competiton about who is the catch , I'm just stating facts about a woman's bodyb

[UhDopeDude]

You posted to argue this mans point, I'm simply returning the favor

[Stacyzee]

It's biological that women go through more physical and hormonal changes than a man , that's not a argument that's a fact.

[Stacyzee]

This is what contributes to our change in appearance compared to a man. I'm educating you. You can allow your ignorance to blind you if you want but fact is fact

[Stacyzee]

And by the way , the women with Tom cruise are not the same women. The women on the right is his Mom. In the other pic , it's a woman he played a movie with

[Careless_Whisper]

Your whining is getting boring.

[Stacyzee]

Your inability to read and not capture the point is sad.
It's pathetic how men stick up for each other , they bash woman together.
But when a woman speaks logical sense to them about what we go through that men don't , it's called whining.
No wonder this site is made up of men who cannot get women and are sex less

[Stacyzee]

You don't even acknowledge my points , instead like a toddler you try to pick an argument. This is the tactic people Resort to when they have no defense.

[IndianGirl01]

Absolutely right.

[Crazyced]

Sorry but that picture is accurate. It is not his mother.

[xxcchhllaauu]

yeah wemen go thu more biological change but men are the most criticized oh he don't do this he's not a man if he doesn't have this his not a man. a man has to have the right size do wemen have to have the right size not to big not too small. has to be the initiater what if he's small goes to talk and she don't like small guys there's so much crap a guy has to do and a guy has no control over appearance or anything eles the woman has control do you not see ?

[xxcchhllaauu]

and don't give me that guys prefer big boobs I'm fairly sure guys who say that are the equivalent to girl size queens. they have a big member or above avg

[xxcchhllaauu]

I always manage to make it a penni size question but as a guy you don't want your girl going to something bigger but most all girls prefer wider and thicker so I will forever writhe in justified self doubt

[Bipolarjew02015]

Im not trying to debunk what you are saying because i see both points of the argument. Im not saying males are better than females or trying to play the victim. But truthfully you must know that females control the dating/relationship game period and that is a huge disadvantage for us.

[mntwins66]

@xxcchhllaauu What in the hell is a "wemen"?

[MaskedSanity]

I think this take and all its replies are a good representation of this website: a battle of the sexes.

Nobody wants to hear the other side, only defend their position and bash their opponent's.

You got your guys congratulating each other for essentially taking a big steaming turd on the female population.

Then you got your girls who shout "bitter!", "can't get a woman/laid!", "hater!" at the drop of a hat without assessing any of the feedback.

No wonder majority of users here are single. You people should stay away from relationships until you've sorted out your anger and contempt for the opposite sex.

Jeez...

[Anonymous]

BOTH sexes are the prize.
You have to make each other feel like a prize.
Whether you are a man or woman in a relationship.. you are worth everything.

And about your last sentence, "if not more women who use makeup excessively to hide acne scar andw hat not"... so what? I don't want people looking at it. I can cover it if I want.
I barely wear makeup. But if I must to hide an imperfection, I damn right will in order to feel more comfortable. It will go away any way. It's not permanent on me.
Even if it is on some women, who cares? If it makes them more comfortable why does it matter so much? Is it really a deal breaker for you?
If it is, you aren't worth her time.
"I love everything about her.. she's great... but she covers her acne..."
Really? REALLY?
Always baffles me when men say women are "hiding their acne, acne scars, etc" with makeup and its SUUUUUUUCH a big deal. As if my acne makes me WHO I AM.
If my acne will be a turn off to you, I don't want you any way.
But here's the thing: I'm not covering it up for you. I'm covering it up for me.
See what I mean?

[kambo_trick3y]

I'm not a fan of shallow and entitled people. If I'm to go on a date, I expect it to be between two people on equal grounds, not one person trying to win the other over like a game prize.

With that said, when I say shallow and entitled people, that goes both ways, for both women, AND men. This take reeks of both, and honestly you're not helping the situation by trying to get men to walk around like peacocks and thinking of women in this way.

[myTake Owner]

First of all it's nothing shallow or entitled about this. What exactly am I entitling me to in this take? The point of this take is to make men realize that they should not be the ones chasing girls (as I've seen so many men doing on this site) and pandering up them like obedient puppy dogs trying to win her affection. This take is to encourage to realize their worth in the dating and in life.

[myTake Owner]

hat exactly am I entitling men to in this take?

[EnigmaStigma]

@kambo_trick3y FINALLY an intelligent response to an immature take.

[jacquesvol]

upvoted

[UhDopeDude]

Let me just point out to all of you women arguing here... Let's put it into perspective... Say a girl has no
Job no car no education no friends no confidence... SHE STILL HAS GUYS WHO WANT HER! And they will do whatever it takes, ask her out, pick her up, take her places, pay for dates, etc... Nowwwwww JUST IMAGINE... A man no job, no car, no education, no friends, no confidence... Guess what... We are going to have to take care of at least 4 of 5 of these AT LEAST before we can even think about dating... This is basically what this guy is trying to say... We can't begin to think about a relationship until late 20s early 30s... But girls have the option for a relationship steadily until they get old and saggy and no one wants them (let's say 40 something)

[cinderelli]

Your points are not wrong.. I actually agree with most of them.. specially the beauty standards and makeup.. but the way you presented your point of view is not right.. it should be about same standard for both genders... both are a catch and both should work for the other..

[UhDopeDude]

well then maybe try taking all responsibilities the man faces everyday... You approach him and face rejection.. You plan the dates and ask him on one, YOU PAY, YOU DRIVE, YOU make sure he's fed and happy... YOU CALL HIM if dudes acted like girls HAHAHA no one would ever have a relationship because no one would ever approach anyone lol.. And they would play silly mind games endlessly. In reality it's NOT THE SAME... We have to invest a lot more in relationships than you do and there is a lot more risk for us and a lot less options... But usually girls have a plan b for their backup guy and another option and some dude crushing on them all at the same time

[cinderelli]

@UhDopeDude depends on are you gonna take all the responsibilities a woman faces everyday... men and women are not same.. we have different mind set and different roles.. when there are many things we share.. there are still sometimes when a guy's gotta be a guy and a girl's gotta be a girl..

[UhDopeDude]

That's just giving power to the sterotypes... What do girls actually have to deal with? You mean like being hit on by a whole bunch of dudes? Getting a lot of compliments? Periods? What? Other bitches? I don't see what's so hard about that...

[BertMacklinFBI]

@UhDopeDude as guys we'll never understand how hard it is because we're not girls. js

[cinderelli]

@UhDopeDude you should think about SRS if you're so unhappy being a guy and if you're going to whine about it your whole life..
@BertMacklinFBI guys with this attitude are so irksome.. lol..

[UhDopeDude]

@BertMacklinFBI yea I can agree with that.. I can agree with all of it.. I just find it messed up how many chicks are taking such offense to this.. Like what? At least appreciate that we have really high standards to live up to before we can be considered dating material... Like we always have to pay? This is 2016 now that feminism / old school courtesy contradiction crap is getting boring... Pick one.. Buy my dinner once in a while or I'll buy it and you cook it... You know I respect women... I'm not a pig, I refuse to sleep around aswell ( I know weird) but i just think a lot of them are really selfish sometimes when they expect you to buy them everything and take them everywhere and set everything up and make all the plans... And then go brag about how independent they are all the time like what? Like how you gone act better than everybody and you can't even set up a date once? Like get me some shit for V Day man... Or If I don't get you anything quit whining. It's materialistic BS

[BertMacklinFBI]

@UhDopeDude While that is a generalization, vice versa, some are like that because they'll never know what it's like to be a guy. Those are simply the girls I ignore.

[cinderelli]

@UhDopeDude again.. same can be said for guys.. you can't generalize like this... and if a lot of stupid shit is expected from guys... a lot of shit is expected from girls as well.. they're judged for everything.. I am not a feminist and I don't want to sound like one.. but I do believe in equality.. no one has it easy.. grass "seems" greener on the other side..

[UhDopeDude]

I just thought it was cool that this guy brought all of this stuff to light... And yes it's a generalization of course , but accurate! I've never known a girl to dismiss those expectations from a man, and I would be very suprised and humbled by something like that REAL QUICK. But yea I do plan on ignoring those girls , and have been. haha. I'm hardly whining about it, I just support change and revolutionary ideals. OH! And "EQUALITY" lol

[honeybones]

I absolutely love this myTake :) it's very very true... I honestly don't wear an ounce of makeup, my boyfriend is quite skinny, I try to pay for things when he is distracted (he doesn't wanna let me pay and I think it's rude), and I try not to make him my slave because guys do a lot for the sake of women and I don't think it's right :( I think women need to try harder because both should be each others prize. Also it's disgustingly true what you mentioned about moms training their daughters to confirm the guy has two keys >~< All i know is women need to stop handling men like puppets. I was guilty of pressuring my boyfriend a lot in the past (like 2 years ago) and that wasn't right :(

Nice myTake :)

[WoodWizzard87]

All the feminists are all freaking out about this. When you really dig deep and think about it, it's true. Not the looks, the fame, or even the money. Why do women like tall guys, dominance. Why do women love leaders... dominance. Why do women love good looks... dominance and social proof. Why do women love men with money... dominance and leaders make money. A marriage can never truly be equal parts, because once a woman believes she's an equal to her man... she will disrespect him and everything else under the sun. If you don't believe me look at the divorce rates today and ask why most women apply and what they say? The mutual attraction and love/feelings aren't they're anymore. Because she turned him from an alpha male leader into a little butch that she could walk all over.

[Anonymous]

I agree with this take... A LOT. Last year... after finishing college and getting a real job... I was so psyched because this meant I could finally meet women. I met a lot of women alright... but it cost me a lot of money just to go on dates with them and what not. At the end of the day, these women are no longer in my life :/.

This year... I am not focusing on women any longer. It's such a waste of time, honestly. I am just going to focus on getting my student loans paid (which are almost done), building up my 401K and just focus on me.

Fuck women.