Women Behave Just Like The Nice Guys They Demonize When It Comes To The Men They Desire

[Anonymous]

When a nice guy meets a girl, they want to show her that they don't see her as a piece of ass. They start off being friendly, and move things slowly wanting to get to know the girl, hang out with her and eventually shifting it to a romantic session; somehow though to young women and men this is underhanded tactic and makes nice guys comwards trying to win girls over with kindness.

A perfect example of this was a recent thread i came across about a guy who took things slow with a girl he met off tinder (who girls claim is a dating app). Treated her with respect, had a good time with her but she goes cold on him after 2 dates because he wasn't AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH and didn't escalate it to sex by date 2.

One of the perfect examples of women's shifting behavoir towards nice guy came from this female's post in that very thread.

Bella518

Notice: When she was younger she wanted aggressive guys who escalated things frequently to sex. Now she is past her prime and in her late 20's she now wants a guy to take things slow witth her.

This is why nice guys fail with young women throughout highschool and college. When women are young they want cocky guys who puff out his chest (they think this is signs of leadership), who are not afraid to play on their insecurities with jokes, who make their intentions about wanting sex with them and known how to escalte things very quickly to sex and nude pics with the right words.

It's only when women become:

1. Single Mothers

2. Ready to settle down (i.e. shift from her SMV to DMV (dating market value)). It's at this point women get shockers of how hard it is to get the guys they could easily get for sex to want to commit to them; just because he wants to bust a nut in you doesn't mean he wants to GF/Wife you.

3.Have gone through a string of assholes who pump and dumped them

4. Most women in their late 20's and beyond

Basically women want nice guys when they think their worth in dating world has deminished. Whether that's a mental perspective on their end or realization in the men who are showing them attention now.

Now to address how similar women are to Nice guys. When a women meets a high status male who they find cute/attractive. Their eyes light up in his presence and you can tell they actually value his time.

Some start contrast between women's behavoir to men they find attractive:

1. They don't act indifferent and try to end conversation quickly with one word response (both online and in person).

2. They come up and talk to him and try to start off with friendship/sharing of interest (similar to how nice guys do to girls they find attractive)

3. They ask them out to places (similar to how nice guys approach girls)

4. They don't take hours to respond to their text or never answer their calls unless they need something from them.

5. They don't treat these guys as utilities.

Now here's the thing. When they meet an attractive guy they like many of them will give up sex/send nude pics to this guy whether he request it or they do it on their own accord. (So in this regard they behave like the players who want sex).

Many of them put on a fake personality and put their best behavoir foward to lure these guys into relationship.

So just like how the nice guy that girls claim is faking kindness and putting on a show to win her over for sex and relationship. Women do the exact same behavoir to high status males they find attractive. They try to put on their best act and give up sex as soon as possible in the hopes that by doing these 2 things they can get them to be their boyfriend and win out over prettier girls than them.

Some women are even so pathetic, they will turn a blind eye to this man screwing other women just as long as he commits to her as a boyfriend.

[meowcow]

Your take appears to reflect your negative attitude towards women or your past history, specifically, the women who spend their youth drinking and clubbing, while avoiding "nice guys".

Not all guys are nice guys, and we are all aware of the douchebag-types. Party girls (the ones you describe here) are attracted to the douchebag type, so your entire take really only represents the behavior of party girls.

The "nice girls", which are equivalent to the "nice guy" do not fall into the description that you provide. I suspect that you don't have a lot of experience with these types of women. They are the caring, nurturing type who are fairly introverted and stay home on the weekend, or in the company of a few close friends. Just like the nice guy, the nice girl is very hard to find, since they avoid clubs, bars and other large social gatherings.

However, if a guy manages to find one of these nice girls, their relationship experience will be nothing like what you describe.

Also, I suspect your take is intended to attack women, and be inflammatory towards them because you are hiding or are afraid of posting your opinion. Otherwise, you would not post anonymously - not that it matters on a site like this. Perhaps a positive attitude would garner more success with women.

[CoolSky01]

you my friend are right these girls exist but finding them is soooooo hard, i've been looking for ages and iam yet to find a nice girl with good values, she either sleeps around, too flirty or has some other issue that turns me off...

[meowcow]

@CoolSky01

The way to find nice girls is less obvious, since they are hidden away from view. They do not enjoy large groups, and prefer 1-on-1 conversations with a handful of people. Knowing this, they way to find them lies in connecting with their close friends - particularly in college settings, or approaching them on your own for non-dating purposes (i. e. studying together).

Guys who are aggressive and ask for dates or phone numbers early on will get rejected, because the girl does not yet feel comfortable with their presence and the level of trust is low at the beginning. The way to catch a nice girl's attention is simply to come across as wanting nothing more than to chat and laugh together. Once the bonds of trust are formed, she will value the relationship. If you ask for her number or a date at that point, she will probably accept, because refusal would jeopardize the friendship that she now values. It's an art to finding the right time to avoid the friendzone

[LittleSally]

This mytake is ridiculous. Either you're just sadly extremely bitter or you have terrible luck in life.

[myTake Owner]

Not really. It paints a negative but realistic portrayal of the way women behave. Also girls need to stop belittling male experience in life and use the excuse that said male just happen to be "bitter" or " had bad experience with women". If a large percentage of men from across the world have similar experience you can't just hide behind a NAWLT or try to tell said person their experience in life is a faulty one and they should just bury their head in the sand.

[LittleSally]

I find that these experiences have only even been 'had' by people in America...
So not the 'majority of the world' in the least.

[myTake Owner]

Sorry but no. This extends beyond america.

[WhatAreYouReading]

Agreed.

[AdamThomas]

I'm from England and I've noticed all of this too. I went from being the typical nice guy to being a player, because I took the advice of a female friend who told me I was too nice and not aggressive enough. I also started to lift weights and dress better. The way women reacted to me was completely different. One girl I spoke to before that point told me she's only been with one person, never liked clubbing because in her words "they're full of sluts and whore", said she hated people who slept around. We stopped talking because she drunkenly fucked her ex at a party and got back with him afterwards. Later though she started talking to me again, I told her I wasn't looking for a relationship. She was like a completely different girl. She was always going out, getting drunk, having one night stands, everything she told me she hated before. She'd always been that way, before though she thought I was boyfriend material so she hid it. That's just one example of many.

[circlebill]

This MyTake is NOT at all ridiculous! It merely points out reality! Not every female is like he portrays. But many are! The "jerk fever" phase among younger women is absolutely real! And so is the nice guy acceptance phase in single mothers and older women who are past their prime and no longer able to compete in the same league with younger women. He is telling the truth! And lying about it won't change it! This MyTake wasn't written just to insult you personally or women in general! All it does is show what has happened in many (not all) cases! Why is it so difficult for women to admit that they are not perfect angels from heaven?

[M_A_X]

What don't you like about it, LittleSally? It seems like things we've all heard a million times anyway.

[LittleSally]

@M_A_X It's so Americanized and demonized it's ridiculous.

[AdamThomas]

But true.

[AdamThomas]

I've noticed all these things too. It's funny to see women deny it and try to tell you that you're bitter for pointing out the reality of it. Once I figured it out I went from being a typical nice guy to being a player, chasing multiple women, sleeping around, being a lot more sexually forward. The difference in the way women treated me was huge, especially when I started to put some. muscle on too. In the end I got bored of. sleeping around so I calmed down a bit and found a good girl, I didn't act like a complete nice guy nor a sex-crazed player, just in-between.

[aliceinwonderland69]

People have strange idea of nice. Why is it bad to try and have sex with someone? You have to make your intentions known from the start.

It is very confusing when you make friends with someone then all of a sudden they try and fuck you. It feels like they have been pretending to be friend just to have sex. It makes you reinterpret everything and feels like a betrayal. It ruins friendship.

Your either friends or you date. Why people think you make friends then try and fuck? I don't wanna fuck my friends. Making friends with someone so you can one day hit on them is very disingenuous. I respect more guy who is honest and upfront.

No wonder so many guys complain of being friendzoned. You put yourself in the friendzone.

[myTake Owner]

Because you girls like guys to beat around the bush and spit game on you before you give them sex. Perfect example of a guy who walks up to girls asking for sex (0.5% success rate).

https://youtu.be/gxyySRgrYsU

[aliceinwonderland69]

Spitting game is not beating around the bush. Spitting game is how we know you are interested. Pretending you not want sex is not game. This is how I feel of life:

1). Guy only interested in sex who is honest and upfront with you. If you want causal sex or fuck buddy you say yes. Otherwise, no thank you, no hard feelings, respect your honesty, good look in life.

2) Guy who is interested in you sexually but also interested in you as a person. Best kind of guy. Very lucky for attention. Try not to fuck up.

3). Guy who pretend he want to be friend but sneaky freaky want to fuck you. One day when you are upset and go to him for comfort he try to take advantage and have sex with you. Then get cross when you freak out. Then play weird mind games. Worst kind of guy of life.

Bad guy = honest
Nice guy = sneaky, freaky

[myTake Owner]

Did you watch the video. Guy who came up and ask for sex was rejected 99% of time.

Guys who spit and flirt. Get sex.

Guys who aren't confident or unsure if your interested in them do the logcal thing and start off first contact by becoming your friend. It's like a pool. You slowly walk into rather than jumping into it.

Walking up to a girl and saying "hey wanna have sex with me" is sure to fail 99% of time if you aren't in top 20% of males.

[myTake Owner]

Also lol at your comment of them being sneaky. I bet you think nice guys are manipulative assholes who try to use niceness to guilt trip women into sex. The reality is they are taught by society, and their mother/female relatives that women want nice respectful gentlemen.

They hear girls get their heart broken over and over around them and hear them saying they just want a "nice guy" to love them. So they take on that role. They hear from their mother to treat women with repsect rather than sex objects. So they start off trying to be friends with you showing they don't see you as a piece of ass and show you respect. Somehow though women take this as them being disgusting manipulative assoles.

Yet, the guy who flirst and tell you sweet lies just to pump and dump you is the better option.

[aliceinwonderland69]

Yes you are correct guys who spit and flirt get sex. Guys who pretend to be your freind so they can fuck you later don't get sex. Evidentiy it isn't a good sexual strategy otherwise you wouldn't all keep moaning about not getting fucked. So not very logical. Stop trying to shame us into fucking you. It is not nice to misrepresent your intentions. How dare you think you are nice.

[myTake Owner]

Looks like you didn't read what i said.

[aliceinwonderland69]

Ok now you make better point. I think I see how it works now. Stupid feminist tell everyone women don't like dominant men. So men think they can just be nice and women will fuck them. Then confident, cocky, don't give a shit guy come along. Women ARE attracted to dominance so reward him with sex. Then nice guys be all confused boo hoo.

When women say they want a nice guy what they mean is a confident, attractive, successful guy who is also nice. A guy who is attractive and also nice. Not shy, ugly, unemployed guy who happens to be nice.

[lonerider]

Totally nailed it. I mean totally. This is how the world works- people need to understand and act according to it. Some women will get butthurt and reject it but that just proves that you hit where it hurts. This does not mean that women are bad.. it just shows that everyone has a 'selfish side'- everyone.

[Anonymous]

This is a truly excellent MyTake! You've tapped deeply into the reality that few women are willing to acknowledge! Younger females are typically so privileged and entitled in dating that they can't believe they have any faults! Thus, they automatically assume any nice man who has trouble finding acceptance from women must be some kind of slimey, inhuman, Satanic demon! Then they have the nerve to claim it's only their exaggerated cartoon stereotyped "nice guy" that they badmouth and not the REAL good guys! WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP! Being a genuine nice guy makes no difference at all when women are so quick to project their automatic cartoon stereotype on every man who dares to make a point of treating women with utmost kindness! This is why a lot of men STOP being so kind and respectful toward women! Sadly, many women don't appreciate sincere kindness and respect! Thanks for telling the REAL story about nice guys! BRAVO!

[Fugue]

I think not all women are like this, but in our society there is definitely a propensity for it. To put it another way, the criticism against stupidity specific to males is official, thick in the air, even at the highest levels of prestige. Some say it even steps into unwarranted criticism. The criticism against female stupidity is typically told as a joke, and the understanding is that it can be dismissed at any time as non-serious or non-legitimate.

[myTake Owner]

I never once said all women were like this. However, you have to kind of be in the dark to not see that a good percentage of women are like this.

[Fugue]

True, but it can be perceived that you implied it.

[myTake Owner]

Things can be perceived in many ways that doesn't mean we should put words in other peoples mouth and accuse them of saying it.

[Fugue]

Sure, but ironically, I never said you said that, either.

[AhGojira]

It's funny that you keep trying to adapt to what you think they want. Be your own man. If some chicks think you're worse than cancer, good at least you know early and don't waste any time or energy on them. Find the one's that work for you, rather than trying to work for those girls that don't...

[myTake Owner]

This take isn't about pandering to women's wants. It was to show similarities between women and nice guys. Essentially everyone puts on their best behavior to win someone they desire. Yet, nice guys are demonized for it by girls, which is a bit hypocritical.

[AhGojira]

Nope, everyone does not put on their best behavior/mask to try and win someone over. I guess that's why you call people bad boys/assholes all the time because they don't live the way you do.

[myTake Owner]

Again it seems trying to discuss with you is pointless. You aren't looking at this from a neutral point but a bias VERY simple view of asshole/nice guy. Also you are lying if you think people don't try to give their best impression when trying to win some one over or have been in very few relationships yourself.

[AhGojira]

You're very simple minded thinking that everyone lives their life as you do. There are plenty of people that are ass hats with disregard for people's feelings that sleep around. They may not be directly rude to the person they want to sleep with, but they are definitely not on their best behavior in any sort of definition. Some intentionally posture bad behavior to attract what they want. Some are intentionally rude and manipulative to play on particular types of girl's insecurities.

There are also plenty of confident people that attract girls from a neutral stand point. They don't put on arrogant displays, nor do they pander. If they hurt someone's feelings they don't care if girls observe it, but they are not intentionally trying to go out and hurt people and bully either.

Then there are various levels of doormat that try to wear a mask on the opposite on the opposite end of the spectrum and pander to what they think girls want. They want to fit in.

[AhGojira]

An of course there are the guys that are really into one particular girl and their behavior bends with her.

[AhGojira]

Some people act on their "best behavior" others just say this is make take me or leave me, and some peacock and try to be the biggest asshole in the room. There are many strategies in a game of chess, and all can win against the correct enemy.

[AhGojira]

Realistically I could use these various strategies against different girls of all ages and get results if I was trying. It depends on the particular girl's background and personality. Some girls are more feisty than others and you have to be dominate with them. When they see that fire in you, it turns them on... Other girls are more sensitive and you have to be kind and careful with them. The best strategy in my opinion is to just roll as you are, and see what you attract, rather than to see a hot girl and say what makes her tick because I want to tap that ass. Not everyone wears a mask, and not everyone that wears a mask wears one that is nice.

[hazoplmeught]

Love this
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[hazoplmeught]

there are alpha females and beta females too

[RationalMale]

Women want alpha fucks, beta bucks. That's life.

And I think gray can be worn well

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[Anonymous]

Alright. here's the thing. When you were in highschool and you liked a girl but you saw her liking someone else you would see him as 'cocky' jerk, kinda guy. You were jealous. How do you know how he treats his girlfriend/fuckbuddies? Man up. Stop being such a passive, emasculated lame excuse a male and stop making excuses for your shortcomings. What would you bring to a relationship apart from your niceness?

[myTake Owner]

Strong life lessons from someone less than 18. But to honest, no it's not out of jealousy you label these guys as cocky, jerky. It's actual character trait you assign from observing their mannerism and behavior. Women like confident men but when they are young they often confuse arrogance for confidence.

Also man up is a sexist term that you at a young age are already being in indoctrinated through your feminist teachings. This isn't an excuse but pointing out the similarities between female behavior and nice guy,

Maybe you should quit it with the shaming language and look at this take without having an emotional reaction towards it.

[Opinion Owner]

its pure jealousy. Nice guys see a guy with a girl that they like and in their heads label him as a jerk.

[myTake Owner]

You'll realize people aren't motivated by jealousy purely and don't have a self invested reason to slander people when you get older.

Maybe when your older you'll realize some people actively take a neutral standpoint to observe behavior and assign traits rather than just give to others because they are butthurt.

I'm not even understanding why i'm talking to someone whose less than 18. You have yet to live life or experience relationships of an adult.

[Opinion Owner]

Sorry. I forgot I have to wait 6 months till my 18th to gain my licence to have an opinion.

[FallOutBoy2001]

The 18 year old is right. You guys label every single guy who dates any of the girls you a jerk. Just like girls label girls who date any of the guys they like sluts/whores. Besides, he's had EIGHTEEN YEARS of experience. I love how all the adults on here are like "you're under 18. You're an idiot, clearly. I shall not listen to your opinion, for (especially in your case) a few extra years makes me oh so high and mighty"
Why don't you answer his question about what you would bring to a relationship other than niceness?

[myTake Owner]

@FallOutBoy2001 "The 18 year old is right. You guys label every single guy who dates any of the girls you a jerk. "

Lol no. The guy labels the person as a jerk because girls often end up crying and complaining of said guy to her male/female friends.

[FallOutBoy2001]

Hm, that's strange. I've never seen that happen before. Maybe you've had one or two bad experiences and painted it to look like you're oppressed? You remind me of the people that accuse all women of playing the victim, when they're no better

[myTake Owner]

@FallOutBoy2001 " Maybe you've had one or two bad experiences and painted it to look like you're oppressed? You remind me of the people that accuse all women of playing the victim, when they're no better"

Lol no. GAG is a perfect example of women's victim mentality. Every take or question on relationship going wrong is always filled with a pity party on how they were the vicitm, and with long winded story of explaining why the person did wrong. Every mytake/question by men explaining about the bad behavoir of women in dating world today is met with shame tactics, sarcasm, and no sympathy at all. Meanwhile when the genders are reverse more men I find are sympathetic and some even apologize (this is the difference between the genders).

It's also funny how women are so lost in their reality and real life. They always act like their version of real life is absolute truth and male's version is written off of them having bad experience.

[SunsetRose]

There are bad girls out there and there are bad guys. If someone doesn't like you for who you are they are not worth your time

[LiveFreeorDieHard]

Lol, who cares. The world is what it is, nothing you can do to change that. Just live your life the best you can and fuck everything else.

[M_A_X]

Oh, I don't know about there being nothing you can do to change the world. I don't consider myself a nice guy, but I have aspergers and am basically socially retarded, even though I'm assertive, even if awkwardly so. However, I've managed to change a lot of small things in society with good arguments, determination and simply not shutting the fuck up about it lol

I've managed to change a lot of minds and provide evidence to help other people change minds. Human beings are not weak. Even if we're cogs in a machine much bigger than us, we can make a difference over time, and you don't need a youtube channel, or a microphone, or insane amounts of popularity, or even good social skills to make a difference.

[takumii]

Somehow reading this makes me want to give up on women xD

[Anonymous]

People can get upset all they want this is pretty true. Doesn't mean it's true for ever women but it's seen so often that a lot of women do engage in this behavior.

[tynamite]

You speak the truth. Preach it!

[Smells-like-lavender]

Just be yourself. who cares what these girls say.