I thought I was the only one in the world thinking how nice would be to be a gay! Tried gay dating apps for once, and I was amazed of how many messages for even single hookups I got. And I am PLAIN UGLY. We men are a lot easier and a lot more straightforward I guess... Still, at 23, never done anything with either men or women. Not attracted in men at all though. I am just very ugly, always was calling that on school especially by women so I gave up long ago to even try.
I'm only single because I'm fat and ugly. Dudes are pretty shallow when it comes to women and girls who aren't beautiful so dudes I know how wrong you are.
I sympathize with you and I also find it sad. Frankly, I would trade today's world for a past era no later than when my own parents were younger and coming of age. As a millennial, I can't be the only one who feels that way because of what's going on?
I understand your pain. I do have a standard to who I will date. I will only date nice guys who do not try to push me into sex. I have been given pickup lines galore, I am tired of the everyday dick bags that drool and chase after me. Its old and its hard to find who will actually love you. I get not wanting to sleep alone and to just have a best friend. I think eventually everyone will find that. I think it just takes time.
Out of all that... the two things that are pretty neutral are the first and last sentences... the rest are just the reason why the dating world ain't shit these days. "nice guys who do not try to push me into sex".. seems like thats a thing... she wants the fancy date, the flowers, the ride, but its a crime if he suggests sex... "dick bags"... one guy hits on a girl and he's a creep because she is not attracted, but the one she is attracted to hits on her... and oh joy... To girls its always about perspective, thats why i hardly ever feel sorry for them when i hear of heartbreak or rejection. Why feel sorry for a selfish personality... they would have done (and do) the same thing in that position.
Its fine to have a standard... but just to negate all the shit i just said... i dont ask for more than i can give. but girls seem to have a perpetual habit of asking for more... but not giving shit in return. You have a standard... fine... but you think the person you like doesnt?
Actually you are wrong. I do it regardless of the attractiveness of the guy. I dont like being disrespected. Suggesting sex is ok, as long as we are exclusive. The only time anyone will hear me complain about heartache or rejection, is if the long term partner im seeing and I break up.
first off... thanks for being calm about my little "going off on you" comment... thats how i test people to see if they know what they are talking about or just coming at me... and you stayed on topic. so ima do the same.
actually, im not wrong... you want exclusivity to do/be a certain way... but what im talking about is BEFORE that. Oh, dont even get me started on the ones who ARE exclusive and wing that shit around like a weapon lol... one of my disclaimers now (well, before i finished the Diesel Dating System) was if i want something from my girl and she denies me... i'll go elsewhere... fuck exclusivity... but the DDS evens that out... eliminates arguments, problems, cheating... pretty much everything wrong with relationships today... and the funny part is... its based on a simple premise that goes back to the B. C's...(no, not big cocks... yeh nasty :) )
@Tdieseler The real question is whether she still had that stance of 'I will only date nice guys who do not try to push me into sex.'when she was younger...
TLDR. Why, so you can get fucked in the ass? Or suck some dude's cock? Dear god. Quit whining and just be the man you want to be. Quit fussing about the women - they are what they are and you're not changing it. You have to learn how to play the game if you're gonna win at life.
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I never said, that I give up. You make it sound like I'm yet another Elliot Rodger incel.
I would love to be gay. To not be afraid of #metoo so I could ask someone out. To be able to get drunk and have sex with a partner without it legally counting as rape. To not fear the bias family court system if the relationship doesn't work out. To be able to argue with my partner without being made to feel like a bully. To be able to satisfy my partner with less than half an hour's work.
The same personality traits that are unattractive to women are also unattractive to gay men. So the same guys who can't get a date with a woman would be unable to get a date with a gay man.
@Jennifer_32 it's sucks. People complain about not having a loving partner but are you shooting down everyone who tries to approach you because of a judgment (may be the person's chest, ethnicity, boobs, face, legs, job, educations status, hair, etc)
I am going to have to agree here. The beautiful girl he has a picture of is a βdream girlβ- an airbrushed, photoshopped vision. Where most girls are your βgirl next doorβ types. If this βdream girlβ is his goal, he will be leading a lonely life. The dream girl, herself, wouldnβt look like that if you knock on her door early in the morning. Lol π
@Poppykate exactly! People should just find a nice attractive girl or guy (since everyone can't get aroused by someone they do not find physically attractive) and live happily ever after
@_Tou24che_1 exactly! We have developed such high standards of beauty in our minds that, even a model couldnβt complete with... unless she has her team of makeup artists, hairstylists, good lighting etc. I think porn, and Instagram has contributed to this illusion.
@Poppykate What women go through is childish compared to men. Men have to born TALL, men have to spend years building the perfect muscles just to be considered sexy. Men have to spend time building raw confidence. What is female struggle... fucking makeup. What a fucking joke.
@Jennifer_32 maybe you should brush up on your facts dude. We live in a male-dominated society, what else is there to say about that? Example, A damn woman can't even enjoy sex, which is human nature for freak sakes
@Poppykate I agree. Porn has set the standard for a 'perfect' vagina (which resembles a child by the way (ew)) and how women should act and look to be considered for love
Men ONLY dominate because we bust our asses off building society. Shit needs to be invented or built we men do it. The houses built, the street paved are all done by men so shit can get done. You ladies didn't do SHIT so don't give that "it's a male dominated world" bullshit
@Jennifer_32 and what did these male-dominated societies do, leave women as well as other races they did not like out of these developing societies. And now that other races and women have not done things up your standards (from being pushed back and out), it's a problem to y'all. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You men made your beds so lay in it
I think the "society" you mentioned is only a minority part that is famous with the media. It is full of cliches and sexists morality from before the 1900s
It doesn't matter you don't fit in. Once you're out, you'll find the true life and have a chance to live it. That happens to all happily married couples.
@PrudentGuy yeah but not fitting in with people who are sexist and racist that wants to oppress you is a problem. If these people did not oppress others, i would see no problem with not fitting in
@PrudentGuy unfortunately, I think men are just evil. Men created all wars and hate in this world. I think men who oppose what their ancestors have done to this world are brave and awesome to fight against it when the world is at their feet. It takes an extremely strong person to defy handed down superiority in this world as well as things handed to men on a silver platter.
@es20490446e women are a lot more emotional than us.
We are easy. 1 + 1 = 2. No argument about it.
Women are not. They are not interested in 1 + 1 = 2 although intellectually they knew. They want to know, if my mother loves me, I love my father, so I can't love you. But how come I still lust for you?
Got it? They still love man. But they hate them when something touches their heart. It's more complicated than rocket science.
@PrudentGuy men are emotional too. This society just ruined you all by making you into dominating emotionless beings as well as conditioning women by making us weak and dependent on men
Girl 1: Her: "I take drugs from time to time" Me: "Well, I'm not willing to date someone who takes drugs. If you ever change let me know." Her: "I think you shall look more towards you, and you will see you aren't that perfect." Me: "That's bullshit."
Girl 2 (after kissing): Her: "Well, you have to know that I'm polyamorous. I have a boyfriend." Me: "Sorry, but I think that polyamori is bullshit."
Girl 3: Her: "The waitress is just a shitty mexican" Me: "You shall not talk like that about the poor girl. I'm surprised you defend animals, and you treat humans like shit."
Girl 4: Me: "I have gone to the doctor and those pimples on my dick are also in your vagina" Her: "Well, that cannot be possible. I go to the doctor quite often." Me: "And I haven't had sex for a long time with another person that wasn't you. Sorry but I don't want to continue dating."
@es20490446e Hell no. If those are real cases that is pretty fucked up especially that lady woman. I would have killed her if i had an std. Forget about them honestly, you seem pretty normal. Maybe you should lower your standards? They sound pretty entitled so i assume they are hot, maybe go for an average girl with a great personality?
@es20490446e I meant "normal" as in well put. You sound like a great guy honestly. But all and all, i understand, hot girls approach you, you must be pretty hot yourself and intimidating to us average girls
I'm starting to suspect that's the case. Cause even hot girls, when I had sex with some of them, start doing all kind of weird things. Mostly for diverting attention about what's going on, talking about topics out of context.
@es20490446e You're very attractive, I can see why women flock to you. I don't know how you were able to insert a pic in your message though (cool dude)
Sorry about predicament but proper verb format to use in that situation is were, not was. True of any conditional statement. Sorry for being such a dick.
Great varieties of pornography at our fingertips and an amazing assortment of sex toys have all but eliminated our desire to βsettle for less than perfectβ. We are much pickier these days for a long term mate. Also our survival is no longer dependent on the traditional family structure. For better or worse.
At my age, I really lowered my standards lol I dont care about looks all that much Just looking for a woman who is gonna fulfill her role Too much male attention made women spoil.
Going into it with an open mind and let it just happen sometimes is the best thing you most likely will be happy being gay just take it slowly and maybe it might help to try out being feminine at the same time you could get your self some lingerie to wear to bed, just an extra thought help you feel more at ease about it.
Reading this really makes me appreciate what I have. Hang in there guys, a few years ago I was in the same boat.
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Find a trans girl who's attractive. They're grateful as hell to be accepted by a straight man, and know exactly how a man thinks. Plus, no need for birth control or putting up with attitude for a week out of every month.
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But dicks other than my own are disgusting for me. I don't want a transgender. I want a normal woman.
As I try to tell people! Location is where your at. To much spam out there to trust the internet. People on dating sites are looking for hook ups. Poor people get a hobby, go to church, join in on charity events. Join or membership up. Hobbies find other people interested in things you like to do. Number one thing don't look desperate. And find someone before your forty cause? Damn my choices are many but very few want someone taken seriously.
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I thought I was the only one in the world thinking how nice would be to be a gay! Tried gay dating apps for once, and I was amazed of how many messages for even single hookups I got. And I am PLAIN UGLY. We men are a lot easier and a lot more straightforward I guess... Still, at 23, never done anything with either men or women. Not attracted in men at all though. I am just very ugly, always was calling that on school especially by women so I gave up long ago to even try.
Women will either date a homless criminal who will abuse her or they will demand Mr. Perfect... There's no middle ground
I'm only single because I'm fat and ugly. Dudes are pretty shallow when it comes to women and girls who aren't beautiful so dudes I know how wrong you are.
@Dog19
Youβre not beautiful?
I sympathize with you and I also find it sad.
Frankly, I would trade today's world for a past era no later than when my own parents were younger and coming of age. As a millennial, I can't be the only one who feels that way because of what's going on?
I feel bad for you... but I also don't. Tough love, don't give up, keep on improving and trying, I'm sure you'll get what you deserve eventually. <3
I'm not giving up. This is venting steam from the process of trying to find a nice girlfriend β€οΈοΈ
I understand your pain. I do have a standard to who I will date. I will only date nice guys who do not try to push me into sex. I have been given pickup lines galore, I am tired of the everyday dick bags that drool and chase after me. Its old and its hard to find who will actually love you. I get not wanting to sleep alone and to just have a best friend. I think eventually everyone will find that. I think it just takes time.
Out of all that... the two things that are pretty neutral are the first and last sentences... the rest are just the reason why the dating world ain't shit these days.
"nice guys who do not try to push me into sex".. seems like thats a thing... she wants the fancy date, the flowers, the ride, but its a crime if he suggests sex...
"dick bags"... one guy hits on a girl and he's a creep because she is not attracted, but the one she is attracted to hits on her... and oh joy...
To girls its always about perspective, thats why i hardly ever feel sorry for them when i hear of heartbreak or rejection. Why feel sorry for a selfish personality... they would have done (and do) the same thing in that position.
Its fine to have a standard... but just to negate all the shit i just said... i dont ask for more than i can give. but girls seem to have a perpetual habit of asking for more... but not giving shit in return. You have a standard... fine... but you think the person you like doesnt?
Actually you are wrong. I do it regardless of the attractiveness of the guy. I dont like being disrespected. Suggesting sex is ok, as long as we are exclusive. The only time anyone will hear me complain about heartache or rejection, is if the long term partner im seeing and I break up.
first off... thanks for being calm about my little "going off on you" comment... thats how i test people to see if they know what they are talking about or just coming at me... and you stayed on topic. so ima do the same.
actually, im not wrong... you want exclusivity to do/be a certain way... but what im talking about is BEFORE that. Oh, dont even get me started on the ones who ARE exclusive and wing that shit around like a weapon lol... one of my disclaimers now (well, before i finished the Diesel Dating System) was if i want something from my girl and she denies me... i'll go elsewhere... fuck exclusivity... but the DDS evens that out... eliminates arguments, problems, cheating... pretty much everything wrong with relationships today... and the funny part is... its based on a simple premise that goes back to the B. C's...(no, not big cocks... yeh nasty :) )
@Tdieseler The real question is whether she still had that stance of 'I will only date nice guys who do not try to push me into sex.'when she was younger...
@Tdieselerππππ
The answer is yes, I did have that stance when I was younger.
Being single is better than being in a relationship with someone who can break your heart or destroy ur self esteem
TLDR.
Why, so you can get fucked in the ass? Or suck some dude's cock?
Dear god. Quit whining and just be the man you want to be. Quit fussing about the women - they are what they are and you're not changing it. You have to learn how to play the game if you're gonna win at life.
I never said, that I give up.
You make it sound like I'm yet another Elliot Rodger incel.
Ah, well, it seems YOU did that. ;)
Don't worry. It's a normal part of the journey in dating.
I would love to be gay. To not be afraid of #metoo so I could ask someone out. To be able to get drunk and have sex with a partner without it legally counting as rape. To not fear the bias family court system if the relationship doesn't work out. To be able to argue with my partner without being made to feel like a bully. To be able to satisfy my partner with less than half an hour's work.
The same personality traits that are unattractive to women are also unattractive to gay men. So the same guys who can't get a date with a woman would be unable to get a date with a gay man.
Maybe if everyone stops being judgmental, everyone can have a loving boyfriend and girlfriend?
Won't happen. Humans are designed to be judgmental assholes
@Jennifer_32 it's sucks. People complain about not having a loving partner but are you shooting down everyone who tries to approach you because of a judgment (may be the person's chest, ethnicity, boobs, face, legs, job, educations status, hair, etc)
I am going to have to agree here. The beautiful girl he has a picture of is a βdream girlβ- an airbrushed, photoshopped vision. Where most girls are your βgirl next doorβ types. If this βdream girlβ is his goal, he will be leading a lonely life. The dream girl, herself, wouldnβt look like that if you knock on her door early in the morning. Lol π
@Poppykate exactly! People should just find a nice attractive girl or guy (since everyone can't get aroused by someone they do not find physically attractive) and live happily ever after
@_Tou24che_1 exactly! We have developed such high standards of beauty in our minds that, even a model couldnβt complete with... unless she has her team of makeup artists, hairstylists, good lighting etc. I think porn, and Instagram has contributed to this illusion.
@Poppykate What women go through is childish compared to men. Men have to born TALL, men have to spend years building the perfect muscles just to be considered sexy. Men have to spend time building raw confidence. What is female struggle... fucking makeup. What a fucking joke.
@Jennifer_32 maybe you should brush up on your facts dude. We live in a male-dominated society, what else is there to say about that? Example, A damn woman can't even enjoy sex, which is human nature for freak sakes
@Poppykate I agree. Porn has set the standard for a 'perfect' vagina (which resembles a child by the way (ew)) and how women should act and look to be considered for love
Men ONLY dominate because we bust our asses off building society. Shit needs to be invented or built we men do it. The houses built, the street paved are all done by men so shit can get done. You ladies didn't do SHIT so don't give that "it's a male dominated world" bullshit
@Jennifer_32 and what did these male-dominated societies do, leave women as well as other races they did not like out of these developing societies. And now that other races and women have not done things up your standards (from being pushed back and out), it's a problem to y'all. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You men made your beds so lay in it
I think the "society" you mentioned is only a minority part that is famous with the media. It is full of cliches and sexists morality from before the 1900s
It doesn't matter you don't fit in. Once you're out, you'll find the true life and have a chance to live it. That happens to all happily married couples.
@PrudentGuy yeah but not fitting in with people who are sexist and racist that wants to oppress you is a problem. If these people did not oppress others, i would see no problem with not fitting in
Regrettably, this is the realism of life. War is as old as Cain and Abel.
Perhaps it's in us guys to fight for ourselves and our loved ones.
But since the 1970s women has stood up to oppression.
And this is OUR lot now, to fight for our happiness and survival.
Maybe this is the cruelty of earthy life π£
@PrudentGuy unfortunately, I think men are just evil. Men created all wars and hate in this world. I think men who oppose what their ancestors have done to this world are brave and awesome to fight against it when the world is at their feet. It takes an extremely strong person to defy handed down superiority in this world as well as things handed to men on a silver platter.
Women that I date think I'm bad.
Everybody else thinks I'm nice.
Can somebody explain this phenomena to me?
@es20490446e women are a lot more emotional than us.
We are easy. 1 + 1 = 2. No argument about it.
Women are not. They are not interested in 1 + 1 = 2 although intellectually they knew. They want to know, if my mother loves me, I love my father, so I can't love you. But how come I still lust for you?
Got it?
They still love man. But they hate them when something touches their heart. It's more complicated than rocket science.
@PrudentGuy Nah, I conclude it's bullshit.
@es20490446e why would women think you're bad? What's your personality like
@PrudentGuy men are emotional too. This society just ruined you all by making you into dominating emotionless beings as well as conditioning women by making us weak and dependent on men
Wanna real cases?
Girl 1:
Her: "I take drugs from time to time"
Me: "Well, I'm not willing to date someone who takes drugs. If you ever change let me know."
Her: "I think you shall look more towards you, and you will see you aren't that perfect."
Me: "That's bullshit."
Girl 2 (after kissing):
Her: "Well, you have to know that I'm polyamorous. I have a boyfriend."
Me: "Sorry, but I think that polyamori is bullshit."
Girl 3:
Her: "The waitress is just a shitty mexican"
Me: "You shall not talk like that about the poor girl. I'm surprised you defend animals, and you treat humans like shit."
Girl 4:
Me: "I have gone to the doctor and those pimples on my dick are also in your vagina"
Her: "Well, that cannot be possible. I go to the doctor quite often."
Me: "And I haven't had sex for a long time with another person that wasn't you. Sorry but I don't want to continue dating."
Am I just too rude?
@es20490446e Hell no. If those are real cases that is pretty fucked up especially that lady woman. I would have killed her if i had an std. Forget about them honestly, you seem pretty normal. Maybe you should lower your standards? They sound pretty entitled so i assume they are hot, maybe go for an average girl with a great personality?
Yeah, they were quite hot :P
But that's the kind of girls that approach me for some reason. It isn't that I reject the rest of them.
Well, that said, I find normal people a bit boring :P
@es20490446e I meant "normal" as in well put. You sound like a great guy honestly. But all and all, i understand, hot girls approach you, you must be pretty hot yourself and intimidating to us average girls
I'm starting to suspect that's the case. Cause even hot girls, when I had sex with some of them, start doing all kind of weird things. Mostly for diverting attention about what's going on, talking about topics out of context.
I look like this, by the way:
@es20490446e wow Handsome!
@PrudentGuy Thank you :)
@es20490446e You're very attractive, I can see why women flock to you. I don't know how you were able to insert a pic in your message though (cool dude)
Thank you miss. I just posted the link to the photo.
@es20490446e Ohhhh ok. I never thought of that
Touche!
@es20490446e nice chatting with you :). Good day to you!
Anytime ππ
Sorry about predicament but proper verb format to use in that situation is were, not was. True of any conditional statement.
Sorry for being such a dick.
Great varieties of pornography at our fingertips and an amazing assortment of sex toys have all but eliminated our desire to βsettle for less than perfectβ. We are much pickier these days for a long term mate. Also our survival is no longer dependent on the traditional family structure. For better or worse.
Nothing wrong with that! Despite swatting away the fundamentalists, being gay is exceptionally wonderful!
At my age, I really lowered my standards lol
I dont care about looks all that much
Just looking for a woman who is gonna fulfill her role
Too much male attention made women spoil.
Tbf wish I was gay, I only ever get flirted with by guys and lets face it grinder is far better for hook ups than tinder.
Going into it with an open mind and let it just happen sometimes is the best thing you most likely will be happy being gay just take it slowly and maybe it might help to try out being feminine at the same time you could get your self some lingerie to wear to bed, just an extra thought help you feel more at ease about it.
I have tired stuff but nah at most am BI but just not attracted to mainly traits
ROBOTS. Robots are the future. They are honestly the best solution for this loneliness.
... This comment is so sad...
I just might end up getting one in 5 years when they get released for sale.
Women are terrible. I pray every night to wake up gay. Anybody want to be my boyfriend?
~Mr Bails Extraordinaire
Very funny indeed!
si papi
Dude lol
@Wowgirl30q well if women would step up to the plate and spoil me
One probably would if ya quit talking nits
Nuts
@Wowgirl30q ok mommy
I don't have kids
@Wowgirl30q yes you do. Don't you remember being preggers at 6?
Lol with this body no way
@Wowgirl30q lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkNdJEbU_Ss
You're nuts
@Wowgirl30q how rude
Hopefully one day you can forgive me
@Wowgirl30q Possibly but there'd be lots of sex involved
Thank the Lord I'm good at itπ
@Wowgirl30q back it up on me, boo
Reading this really makes me appreciate what I have. Hang in there guys, a few years ago I was in the same boat.
Find a trans girl who's attractive. They're grateful as hell to be accepted by a straight man, and know exactly how a man thinks. Plus, no need for birth control or putting up with attitude for a week out of every month.
But dicks other than my own are disgusting for me. I don't want a transgender. I want a normal woman.
Transsexuals have gone through a lot of surgeries, so a trans woman would have a vagina instead of a penis.
As I try to tell people! Location is where your at. To much spam out there to trust the internet. People on dating sites are looking for hook ups. Poor people get a hobby, go to church, join in on charity events. Join or membership up. Hobbies find other people interested in things you like to do.
Number one thing don't look desperate. And find someone before your forty cause? Damn my choices are many but very few want someone taken seriously.