Honestly, those inta models and bad bitches look pretty basic to me. They all look the same with no variation. I'm so used to seeing and nearly dating them, I'm good. Also, I don't think the average girl is actually average. They are the norm. The ones I mentioned are more abnormal. Lol
Most guys WILL pick the average, if not ugly, girl in the room. Uk why? Cuz they get laid easier that way due to desperation. Think about it, if your hot, you can have any guy you want so ur standards are pretty high, and men know that. They would rather go for uglier girls because uglier girls will do almost anything for that attention. Im just talking from experience. The some hot/popular girls from my school were actually some of the nicest people I've ever met, majority if the thots at our school were ugly af. I had a crush on 1 guy and he went for a girl less attractive and more promiscuous. I like this take but its problematic. Your saying its whats on the inside that counts, but your literally assuming that whats one the outside determines the inside.
to the picture with "the same girl": this is exactly why nowadays i straight up ignore girls that look like the one on the right on dating sites. cause either they're just fake or they will look considerably worse irl. i don't know how girls do it honestly but they somehow often manage to look soo much better in images.
i mean i have no issues with average looking girls. to me average is "normal" and nothing is wrong with normal however i obviously still have certain preferences and there's a certain base line and under that i just won't date. i don't care if i stay single. i look reasonably good and i don't see why i should date girls that are unattractive to me.
If you had told me you were writing this my take.. I would have saved myself months of research..
I ended up concluding picking a girl.. Who works in a meaningful general profession!. Like a school teacher or a nurse, anything that doesn't involves value of her looks And avoids a social media swarm.. Because social media swarm girls are looking for "Pool of men they can play"
Also such average girl of provided with enough money and make up products and garments.. She will look fantabulous. 😉
Everyone has the right to be with someone their attracted to and someone they stay attracted to. You sorta sound like a salty "nice girl" here. No offense
First of all, there is no such thing as an average looking girl as there is no average look. Second, attractive women DO NOT always, in fact often don't, know they are attractive. Why? You cannot be attractive unless you are found attractive by another person, and women tend to be very self conscious and insecure. Third, personality has nothing to do with looks. The so called average looking girl can be a total count while the attractive one is a sweetheart, or vice versa.
You're wrong. I know you might find it hard to believe (I did too). In my past experience, the most beautiful girls are also the most insecure. Trust me, they DO know they're beautiful. Because they hear it all the time from their friends, family, relatives, lingering looks from strangers. The most attractive ones tend to be most jealous, insecure because they don't love themselves for who they are. All they have ever been known for in life is only their looks and nothing else. They also know that looks will fade and won't last forever. Lastly, they also know that there will always be someone else out there who is better looking than them.
@nella965 that’s not true at all. Not everyone who is good looking fails to find value elsewhere in their lives. This is such a blanket statement it’s become illogical. Yes, some may feel like that, eapecially tounger ones, but I definitely don’t believe it to be the majority! People naturally find value in more than life beyond superficial things as they mature.
Funny!! That average girl will still reject any not-"hot" guy. I've known quite a few below-average women that have rejected friends of mine with the belief that no matter what the woman looks like, she should never be forced to settle for less.. and women applaud and commend them
But let an ugly, heavy guy say he's only looking for a bikini-babe and women would ridicule and laugh at him.
THIS 280LB woman is portrayed as sexy and women applaud and chant about inner beauty. A man of a proportionate build would be about 400lbs... We all know what women would say about HIS inner beauty
So what, this applies to guys as well. You can take a guy and do the same. Him dressed like shit looking like he staying in and un-groomed vs him looking nice ready to go out. It's perception. How you look says a lot about a person. Not talking about levels of attractiveness, just your appearance. I could clearly tell that was the same girl. Just that in the first picture she looked comfortable and also like she didn't give a shit.
Bottomline don't base your decision on looks, talk to the girl.
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All do respect I think it is actually the other way around. And the right picture is average. The truly most beautiful women are the most lonely. The assholes tend to be the ones in the middle. If you ask any guy who has fucked 100s if not 1000s of women they will tell you this. But getting any girl at the end of the day is about value. That's all. What do you bring to her life that is of value to her and vice versa. Don't settle for what you really want. But realize you may have to change and become a better version of yourself. But I assure you this better version of yourself isn't as foreign as you think.
All that being said looks are not everything. Also I feel like her post is aimed at western women. You guys get a bad rep.
Wtf beautiful, average and ugly people can manipulate you if you're desperate enough to let them All women and men are "judges" when it comes to dating and we all know our "power" (a combination of diverse factors like attractiveness, studies, job, etc) or we think we do -like narcissists and people with low self-esteem- and whoever doesn't match our standards is not suitable, end of story. You're basically saying we should settle for less..
*Woman sees if he's a good guy and if he's confident enough to feel that he's worth it*
*Man tries to prove himself*
*Man fails to prove himself, and wonders why he got rejected*"
I dont see what's wrong with this assessment, Its 100% accurate. Men do not choose women. Its women that choose men. This isn't just true with humans but also with other animal species as well. The male has to impress the female. The female goes with the one male that impresses her the most. The other males compete with each other.
Tough crowd, but I hear you man. There's nothing wrong with this. We've got no great war, no great depression, if it weren't for these women we'd have nothing to fight for.
Or we can just lead attractive girls on fucking them and dumping them if they act like shit holes. It's not an either or option. We can do whatever we want too. This is why men say or do anything to get the girl and then just dump her, we don't respect manipulative nasty sluts. And we don't owe girls like that any sort of respect. I am not going to get with some ugly girl just because she's ugly and might be a nice person (plenty of uggos have terrible personalities too, in fact I think they are worse than pretty girls).
thats not always the case i have seen butt ugly guys who were happily married to extremely beautiful women and it was love and had nothing to do with these explanations you gave. but they are helpful for the guys who are not that lucky in dating lol.
I’d say the pics you used, your “average” girl is just ugly, and your pretty girl is actually average. I think average girls are pretty. I think you put a woman’s perspective on this. For women the average man is ugly apparently. But I think most men are perfectly fine with an average girl. Average girls are attractive. Ugly girls are not. You compared an average and a ugly girl you need better pictures.
Ahaha. I think it’s quite simple to be honest, 90 percent of the time when guys ask girls out they get rejected because they are asking someone significantly better looking than they are out. Seriously cmon. You may be in that 10 percent but I doubt it. Iv had many many mates and the ones that ask women out who are similar looking to them have few problems.
i think it's possible fro an average guy to get a gorgeous girl. i think it's very possible for a 6 or 7 to get a 10 girl. (he can't be ugly though. highly doubt that a 2 or 3 can land a 10). anyways, he just needs to befriend the girl first. talk to her. support her. be kind and sweet. obviously not bend over backwards, but i find that the more you get to know a guy's personality, the more you can fall in love with him. i. e. people have said i am an 8 or 9, but i fell for a 6 guy. was not initially attracted to him. but i got to know what a great guy he was. a rarity these days.
If you a "prom king", why should you choose average? Or if you are below average yourself, you'll get rejected by the average girl too. So it's not so simple. You should probably choose within your own range, depending on your looks and whether you care if you get rejected. If you don't care, then there is no downside.
An average looking girl will more likely love you more passionately with a deeper affection because she feels like wow, he likes me in spite of my flaws, and physical imperfections. But, I’m a sapiosexual myself, and I’m attracted more to a charming personality, and intelligence more than just a pretty face.
I have to agree that 'pretty' girls can be manipulative and users, and if you're really scared of being manipulated and used, then here's some good advice:
However, there's a lot more to what makes a person attractive than looks, and not all pretty girls are manipulative and users, and not all average women are nice, and what looks good is subjective anyway!
Short answer - Cloud Walkers and Ground Dwellers are, and always will be, incompatible.
Long answer - Hang with friends. No pressure to perform. No anxiety to impress. No expectations to contend with. Be yourself. Finding a compatible partner is not rocket science. It is "clicking" with someone you're "friends" with.
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Guys here's the synopsis of this. "Guys, go after the avg. Maybe even homely looking girl. She's a better person and will treat you better. We women meanwhile are going to keep chasing the Chad's the alpha males because they're social stock is higher. They have more money and can buy us things".
And women wonder why they repeatedly get used and tossed away like a dirty diaper. For all your suggested superiority in reading social cues and what not somehow you never see rhat cliff coming. Lmao
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Honestly, those inta models and bad bitches look pretty basic to me.
They all look the same with no variation. I'm so used to seeing and nearly dating them, I'm good.
Also, I don't think the average girl is actually average. They are the norm. The ones I mentioned are more abnormal. Lol
Normal is average. It's the same thing...
Most guys WILL pick the average, if not ugly, girl in the room. Uk why? Cuz they get laid easier that way due to desperation. Think about it, if your hot, you can have any guy you want so ur standards are pretty high, and men know that. They would rather go for uglier girls because uglier girls will do almost anything for that attention. Im just talking from experience. The some hot/popular girls from my school were actually some of the nicest people I've ever met, majority if the thots at our school were ugly af. I had a crush on 1 guy and he went for a girl less attractive and more promiscuous.
I like this take but its problematic. Your saying its whats on the inside that counts, but your literally assuming that whats one the outside determines the inside.
great response girl!!! so true.
to the picture with "the same girl": this is exactly why nowadays i straight up ignore girls that look like the one on the right on dating sites. cause either they're just fake or they will look considerably worse irl. i don't know how girls do it honestly but they somehow often manage to look soo much better in images.
i mean i have no issues with average looking girls. to me average is "normal" and nothing is wrong with normal however i obviously still have certain preferences and there's a certain base line and under that i just won't date. i don't care if i stay single. i look reasonably good and i don't see why i should date girls that are unattractive to me.
If you had told me you were writing this my take..
I would have saved myself months of research..
I ended up concluding picking a girl..
Who works in a meaningful general profession!. Like a school teacher or a nurse, anything that doesn't involves value of her looks
And avoids a social media swarm.. Because social media swarm girls are looking for "Pool of men they can play"
Also such average girl of provided with enough money and make up products and garments.. She will look fantabulous. 😉
Everyone has the right to be with someone their attracted to and someone they stay attracted to. You sorta sound like a salty "nice girl" here. No offense
I don't even think she's nice...
That's why she's a "nice girl" lol. Its a metaphor for a salty woman.
First of all, there is no such thing as an average looking girl as there is no average look.
Second, attractive women DO NOT always, in fact often don't, know they are attractive. Why? You cannot be attractive unless you are found attractive by another person, and women tend to be very self conscious and insecure.
Third, personality has nothing to do with looks. The so called average looking girl can be a total count while the attractive one is a sweetheart, or vice versa.
This makes more sense to me.
You're wrong. I know you might find it hard to believe (I did too). In my past experience, the most beautiful girls are also the most insecure. Trust me, they DO know they're beautiful. Because they hear it all the time from their friends, family, relatives, lingering looks from strangers. The most attractive ones tend to be most jealous, insecure because they don't love themselves for who they are. All they have ever been known for in life is only their looks and nothing else. They also know that looks will fade and won't last forever. Lastly, they also know that there will always be someone else out there who is better looking than them.
@nella965 that’s not true at all. Not everyone who is good looking fails to find value elsewhere in their lives. This is such a blanket statement it’s become illogical. Yes, some may feel like that, eapecially tounger ones, but I definitely don’t believe it to be the majority! People naturally find value in more than life beyond superficial things as they mature.
Funny!! That average girl will still reject any not-"hot" guy. I've known quite a few below-average women that have rejected friends of mine with the belief that no matter what the woman looks like, she should never be forced to settle for less.. and women applaud and commend them
But let an ugly, heavy guy say he's only looking for a bikini-babe and women would ridicule and laugh at him.
THIS 280LB woman is portrayed as sexy and women applaud and chant about inner beauty.
A man of a proportionate build would be about 400lbs... We all know what women would say about HIS inner beauty
So what, this applies to guys as well. You can take a guy and do the same. Him dressed like shit looking like he staying in and un-groomed vs him looking nice ready to go out. It's perception. How you look says a lot about a person. Not talking about levels of attractiveness, just your appearance. I could clearly tell that was the same girl. Just that in the first picture she looked comfortable and also like she didn't give a shit.
Bottomline don't base your decision on looks, talk to the girl.
All do respect I think it is actually the other way around. And the right picture is average. The truly most beautiful women are the most lonely. The assholes tend to be the ones in the middle. If you ask any guy who has fucked 100s if not 1000s of women they will tell you this. But getting any girl at the end of the day is about value. That's all. What do you bring to her life that is of value to her and vice versa. Don't settle for what you really want. But realize you may have to change and become a better version of yourself. But I assure you this better version of yourself isn't as foreign as you think.
All that being said looks are not everything. Also I feel like her post is aimed at western women. You guys get a bad rep.
why do western women get a bad rep?
Wtf beautiful, average and ugly people can manipulate you if you're desperate enough to let them
All women and men are "judges" when it comes to dating and we all know our "power" (a combination of diverse factors like attractiveness, studies, job, etc) or we think we do -like narcissists and people with low self-esteem- and whoever doesn't match our standards is not suitable, end of story. You're basically saying we should settle for less..
*Man approaches woman*
*Woman accepts his invitation for a date*
*Woman sees if he's a good guy and if he's confident enough to feel that he's worth it*
*Man tries to prove himself*
*Man fails to prove himself, and wonders why he got rejected*"
I dont see what's wrong with this assessment, Its 100% accurate. Men do not choose women. Its women that choose men. This isn't just true with humans but also with other animal species as well. The male has to impress the female. The female goes with the one male that impresses her the most. The other males compete with each other.
Tough crowd, but I hear you man. There's nothing wrong with this. We've got no great war, no great depression, if it weren't for these women we'd have nothing to fight for.
Or we can just lead attractive girls on fucking them and dumping them if they act like shit holes. It's not an either or option. We can do whatever we want too. This is why men say or do anything to get the girl and then just dump her, we don't respect manipulative nasty sluts. And we don't owe girls like that any sort of respect. I am not going to get with some ugly girl just because she's ugly and might be a nice person (plenty of uggos have terrible personalities too, in fact I think they are worse than pretty girls).
You are man whore according to your behaviour here
thats not always the case i have seen butt ugly guys who were happily married
to extremely beautiful women and it was love and had nothing to do with these explanations you gave. but they are helpful for the guys who are not that lucky in dating lol.
No ever said it is always the case. :)
I’d say the pics you used, your “average” girl is just ugly, and your pretty girl is actually average. I think average girls are pretty. I think you put a woman’s perspective on this. For women the average man is ugly apparently. But I think most men are perfectly fine with an average girl. Average girls are attractive. Ugly girls are not. You compared an average and a ugly girl you need better pictures.
The two pictures are the same girl. It's just that the one on the right has makeup. LOL
So an ugly girl put on makeup. Good for her. I know plenty of average girls who look as cute as she does with makeup, but without it.
I think the majority of women are attractive. Average girls are attractive. I don’t know about average men for y’all, but it’s not the same for us.
Ahaha. I think it’s quite simple to be honest, 90 percent of the time when guys ask girls out they get rejected because they are asking someone significantly better looking than they are out. Seriously cmon. You may be in that 10 percent but I doubt it. Iv had many many mates and the ones that ask women out who are similar looking to them have few problems.
i think it's possible fro an average guy to get a gorgeous girl. i think it's very possible for a 6 or 7 to get a 10 girl. (he can't be ugly though. highly doubt that a 2 or 3 can land a 10). anyways, he just needs to befriend the girl first. talk to her. support her. be kind and sweet. obviously not bend over backwards, but i find that the more you get to know a guy's personality, the more you can fall in love with him. i. e. people have said i am an 8 or 9, but i fell for a 6 guy. was not initially attracted to him. but i got to know what a great guy he was. a rarity these days.
If you a "prom king", why should you choose average? Or if you are below average yourself, you'll get rejected by the average girl too. So it's not so simple. You should probably choose within your own range, depending on your looks and whether you care if you get rejected. If you don't care, then there is no downside.
An average looking girl will more likely love you more passionately with a deeper affection because she feels like wow, he likes me in spite of my flaws, and physical imperfections. But, I’m a sapiosexual myself, and I’m attracted more to a charming personality, and intelligence more than just a pretty face.
I have to agree that 'pretty' girls can be manipulative and users, and if you're really scared of being manipulated and used, then here's some good advice:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/H1UqAbeDsjIHowever, there's a lot more to what makes a person attractive than looks, and not all pretty girls are manipulative and users, and not all average women are nice, and what looks good is subjective anyway!
TL:DR
(Actually, the title says it all.)
Short answer - Cloud Walkers and Ground Dwellers are, and always will be, incompatible.
Long answer - Hang with friends. No pressure to perform. No anxiety to impress. No expectations to contend with. Be yourself. Finding a compatible partner is not rocket science. It is "clicking" with someone you're "friends" with.
Guys here's the synopsis of this. "Guys, go after the avg. Maybe even homely looking girl. She's a better person and will treat you better. We women meanwhile are going to keep chasing the Chad's the alpha males because they're social stock is higher. They have more money and can buy us things".
And women wonder why they repeatedly get used and tossed away like a dirty diaper. For all your suggested superiority in reading social cues and what not somehow you never see rhat cliff coming. Lmao
I don't know if she dates "chads" or superior men or if she is one of the type to settle anywhere at least a little below.
That's why there are so many abused women in this world...
@kespethdude Yeah, shame.
Really? I figured that more attractive women would be less attainable.