Is it really better for men to date women in their 20s due to the simple math? Do you agree with this or not?

[MCheetah]

Under 30: Caylee Cowan

Under 30: Elle Fanning

https://www.entoin.com/entertainment/blonde-actresses-under-30

In her 20s versus in her 30s: Scarlett Johansson

In her 20s versus in her 30s: Jennifer Lawrence

This was something I brought up in another post using logic, but I'm unsure if I 100% believe it.

If you seek out a woman in her 20s, she's very likely to be at the peak of her beauty and attractiveness (usually; not always.) But women physically peak at 23, and by the time they're 30, are far less attractive than they used to be, by at least 33% (meaning a 7.5 looking woman is a 5 by the time she's 30+.)

Women can be mature and a good person in their 20s, and they can also be mature and a good person in their 30s. One might think an older female partner is far more likely to be a good and mature woman in her 30s. But today's society shows that isn't necessarily true and that Millennial females aren't exact "grown women" nowadays. It really does depend on the person.

Under the BEST circumstances, you have a 50-50 chance of finding a good woman out there (although realistically, it's probably way lower; but let's be optimistic here and say it's as high as 50% of the women out there are good enough to date.)

But more women seem to mature after the age of 23. If they aren't mature by 24 to 26, they likely won't be mature into their 30s, either. Meaning, it's possible to find a mature woman in her 20s who has both looks and personality. More likely if they're over 23 but under 30.

So you've got a 50% chance - at best - of finding someone who has a good personality and is mature for their age. But as women age past 23, they become far and far less physically attractive, and many women are no longer attractive by the time they're 30 (especially Liberal/left-leaning women, to be honest.)

50% chance of finding an attractive, good woman in her 20s, versus a 25% chance of finding an attractive, good woman in her 30s.

SUMMARY:
Most women in their 20s are likely to be at the peak of their looks, meaning you've only got to worry about them being a good person or not. While with women in their 30s, you've got to worry about them being a good person AND not looking like a grandma. It's more logical to go after women in their 20s than women in their 30s.

I think life is a little more complicated than this, however the basic logic seems to fit.
But is it true? Do you agree with this logic?

Inspired by this question here.

[Blackmoonsns]

At the very least I tend to find younger women more agreeable they are not as needy as far as their expectations are all the hoops I have to jump through. I find out when I date older women or women my age their expectations seem to go up because they've made poor choices or they have many kids and well they view their kids as their number one priority I understand that but I'm just really there it seems like to fit her need in her schedule where it's comparison to younger woman without kids she's more flexible she's more open and she's free.

[Adaeva]

That is not how the math actually is. There are only 16.1 million never married females in their twenties and 18.3 million never married men in twenties; 14% more men. Not only that, but there are also 5.4 million never married and typically more established and higher income men ages 30-34 competing for the same females. Therefore, there are almost 3 never married men for every 2 never married females in their twenties. Based on the math, opportunities for marriage are far better for men if they choose women in their thirties.

[MCheetah]

Even if they did though, wouldn't the math also suggest there's not enough men to go around, even just going for the old cat ladies and feminists almost hitting 40?

[Adaeva]

That depends on the age range. There are 105 male births for every 100 female but females live longer. In the USA there are136.8 million females age 15+ but only 123.3 million males. Therefore, looking at the total adult population there are not enough male to go around. However, there are 44.1 million males ages 20-39 and 43.8 million females. Therefore, there are 300,000 extra males in ages 20-39. These numbers are based on the 2021 US census.

[MCheetah]

I'm in that 300,000 "single no matter what" male category.

Sad thing is, none of this data even accounts for LGBT BS. How many of those 43.8 million females are queer? (Thus, undateable for men.) The number of eternally single men is probably significantly higher than only 300,000 when you add in sexuality.

So I guess, for some men, they can be 20, 30, 40+; it's perpetual singledom, no matter what, even if literally every girl had to be matched with a guy.

[Adaeva]

It also doesn't include 3.0 million females and 1.9 million males age 20-39 that are divorces, widowed, or separated which includes is 800,000 extra age 20-39 females. LGBT are in the US census. However, in a recent survey conducted among Americans, 6.4 percent of females and 4.9 percent of males identified themselves as part of the LGBT community.
www.statista.com/.../#topicHeader__wrapper
The greater number of LGBT females would further increase the number of extra age 20-39 females. Regardless, none of that will significantly affect huge advantage of age 20-29 females.

[robbo]

Well some would say that the age of consent is too high and the answer is to go lower on the female end.

[Summeroflove]

Depends on the man and what he wants to do. Dating isn’t one size fits all

[hahahmm]

1. Back in the day... a guy always knew what his potential wife's mother looked like. Guess what, if her mom looks hot at age 45 there's a good chance the daughter will look hot at 45 too. Well, what am I saying... 99% of women did look hot back in the day because they were all FIT and guys did not worry about the face like they do today... where mass media influences our ideas.

2. Back in the day a guy looked at character a lot because he could take the looks for granted. Just like if 99% of women in our world looked hot we wouldn't bother talking about that. Similar to how we don't bother saying we want a woman with 2 legs.

Now we live in an age where the looks and character often aren't there. The idea that getting a younger woman fixes this is an illusion. That younger woman is likely to become less attractive and to show that she has poor character over time. It's just the odds given the time we live in. To increase the odds of finding the best you would have to look closely at who she associates with, her family, how she relates to her dad and so on.

For older guys, I'd say don't even bother with the 20s at all tho. You're not going to get "perfect". You can get the best available. Similar to how if you had 10 million dollars and you want to buy a car but you can only shop on the used car lot. But at least you can be smart enough to know the pros & cons of what you are getting.

[RealMarek]

It’s obvious that physical attraction is generally greater in 20-somethings than people who are older and throughout human history there is a typical age gap with men being somewhat older than the women they couple with. There is still an average age gap today. However, there is more to consider than looks. If a guy is in his forties or fifties, he has to think carefully before getting into a relationship with a woman in her twenties. What is her motivation? Is she going to stick around when she is 40 and you are 65? Do you want teenagers in the house when you are old? There is more to a good match than just finding someone who is attractive and a good person.

[IceCreamSandwich]

I mean this take makes sense. Math isn't my strong suit but I see what you're talking about. I just guess my thinking is, why not just go for all hot women? You can tell by looking so there's no need to approach to see whether she's hot. Then by the box graph wouldn't you have a 3/3 chance she'd be hot, and a 2/3 chance she'd be mature? That seems like a better idea to me.

[MCheetah]

"Why not just go for all hot women?"

Because "Don't stick your dick in crazy" is why. Personality still matters. And there's probably more crazy feminist women out there in their 20s than in their 30s.

[IceCreamSandwich]

Yeah but I mean, you don't want not hot women and you don't want crazy/immature women. So why try them by age? That doesn't guarantee either. You may still get a crazy one no matter what age you go for. At least if you go for hot, you won't get both crazy and not hot, right? But yeah, you would still need to see if they're mature before getting into a serious relationship.

[Red-Blaze]

I am honestly a little on "Is this for real? is this a joke?"
I mean its not like if you date someone the world stop spinning and she stop ageing
Even if her peek then it not going to last long, and except if your lookinv for a one night stand your very much looking super short term

I mean she will age sooner or later

Beside that pepole can meture in any age, some will only in there 30s some will do it eariler, the whole 50% is honestly a really black andcwhite view of it all when there is sooooo much grey

The part that really makes me lean more that this is satire is the politcal view have an effect on it some how, that kind of put logic completely on the side lines 😅

Anyway, Best luck of guess, and if this is not a joke/satire never go out with me please :) We are not going to match

[Berethor]

In Japan they calling it Christmas Cake, women should get a man before they become old.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Christmas%20Cake

[LiamJHayden]

I live in an area of perpetual youth (somewhat due to cosmetic surgery, no doubt) so a lot of unmarried straight women in their 30's and even early 40's and older are pretty decent looking. I make a decent amount, but am pretty average looking so why try competing for 20 somethings with 35 yo lawyers who are pulling seven figures when the 32 yo female dance instructor at the local gym is interested in me?

[robbo]

They say men are opportunists and females are idealists. Is the 32 year old dance instructor attractive? Wouldn’t you rather have the younger female if you could?

[dolemite89]

smash girls in their 20’s for as long as you can get away with it. women in their 30’s usually just want oops babies.

[mrmonogamous]

My wife will is 58 and I still thinks she’s drop dead gorgeous.

[Anonymous]

Probably yeah. I mean have you seen Natalie Portman in her 20s vs now.

I think there's more competition for women in their 20s as opposed to their 30s, so women in their 20s can be choosier.

[Stoner710]

I am 29 so I’d rather date somebody in their 20s probably not too early 20s probably more like 24-28

[robbo]

May I ask why?

[annabananna]

I feel like going purely after young women for their looks superficial. I can see a guy wanting someone younger if he wants kids but for reason of looks is shallow and will lead to an unfulfilling life.

[CAPTAIN-OBVIOUS]

This is sadly true but I’m at the point in my life where I’d date a 5/10 and if we matched and she is 30, I would still date her.

[pers0n]

"If we matched"...
The whole point of the scale of 10 rating is to screw just because of looks.

And also, mcheetah keeps on posting trannies.

[Sasha0426]

When I was in my teens and early 20s, men already found me ugly. I’m 30 and they still do. I already planned die single anyway so I got nothing to worry about 🤷‍♀️

[MCheetah]

You're not nearly unattractive enough to think of yourself as a "femcel." Based on your avatar pic, you just need to learn how to use makeup and probably lower your standards from highly unobtainable men.

[Sasha0426]

Can I just stay single instead?

[MCheetah]

It's your life.

[Sasha0426]

I just don’t have the motivation like everyone else does. I don’t have the mental energy to wear makeup everyday.

[Sasha0426]

I mean, all the hoops you have to jump through JUST to find someone? No thank you.

[strateguy632]

but you can SEE looks and even a 25 year old will reach 30.

[KathrynTaylor]

Not if they’re in their early to mid thirties. They’re too immature.

[CrystalShadows2]

I believe that's a generalization that all women look their best in their early 20's.. Some women are just late bloomers. You also have 30 year olds that look 25 and 20 year olds that look 40

[21Cowboy21]

Liberal and left leaning?

[Fuentes]

If I was to date, yes 23 and up for me.

[lottiebannotie]

For procreation yes for a relationship no