I'm dating a nice guy. The guy that got told by girls in high school that he was "too nice." I'm 25, and I appreciate it because I was fooled by guys who I thought were nice, but we're actually jerks that put on fake charm.
Women like confidence. A guy I once "friend zoned" was a huge creep, short, unattractive and later got fired for sexual harassment. He claimed he was a nice guy. Hmm.
Also, it seems that many of these so-called nice guys are actually secretly trying to get with the girls who vent to them. "Pretending" to be friends but with an ulterior motive.
All the "nice" guys who went for me were either very very unattractive OR they strived to be with the hot blonde that was mean and had no personality. Maybe they go for girls who are clearly out of their league. If guys can be shallow, why can't we to an extent?
Females love to be in denial. The point of this mytake is to basically say that girls say they want nice guys, but if they would think for a minute they would realize all the TRUE nice guys they through in the friendzoned. Meanwhile the fake nice guys are the ones they fall for, the popular assholes that don't give a damn about them.
You can deny it all you want, but after their heart is broken they ALWAYS run back to the nice guys they tossed into the friendzone and then complain about how they can't find any nice guys and how they wish their were more guys like the ones they have in the friendzone. We never tell you that you're foolish or that we don't want to hear what you have to say because, again we're nice and despite how much we really want to put you in your place we can't because we know that at that moment you're in a horrible state and need someone to comfort you.
It's not like you give a damn about we have to say, you go and chase more assholes then come back to us lol.
@primafacie just because a guy goes for a woman that is out of his league it doesn't mean he is not a nice guy lol. It just means he is being unrealistic.
Well guys, I don't know what to tell ya. I'm 25 and like I've said around this thread, I am dating a classic "nice guy" when only jerks ever went for me. I believe that when most women mature, they marry nice guys. What if I turned the tables and said... nice guys only go for MEAN GIRLS.
Manuel - but you see... if she is out of his league, why would she necessarily want to date him? Just because he grovels at her feet? People like to date people that are equally attractive to them.
I would kind of like to see some pictures of these guys and pictures of the girls they like lol. Because there are a ton of "shallow" guys that want a girl solely because she is good looking, and I feel like that's fine, but women are entitled to be picky when it comes to looks if they want to be too.
"I believe that when most women mature, they marry nice guys"
I believe this too, why? Because most women when they're older have had their heart broken enough times by these bad boys.
"nice guys only go for MEAN GIRLS."
Thirsty girls go for MEAN GIRLS and not every mean girl is good looking, most good looking girls aren't even as mean as you probably picture them.
"People like to date people that are equally attractive to them. "
Not all people care about looks, they're are other things that can make someone attractive. Looks get your foot in the door but the personality is what makes you more of less attractive, maybe not at all to some women/men.
I remember my boyfriend told me that in HS, one of the most pretty and popular girls (that he liked) tricked him into thinking she liked him, and then embarrassed him in front of a crowd. And I replied, "oh so that's why nice guys never went for me, they went for THOSE girls". I got the sense from him that he always went for that type. I mean, I was kind of an ugly duckling that blossomed as I got a bit older. Nice guys sure never went for me! lol shucks.
I think that:
1) girls get tricked - the guys are usually charming and seem nice, and by the time you realize they are not nice, you are dependent and constantly searching for that side of him that was nice. I was in an emotionally abusive relationship. I knew the guy was terrible, but I kept trying so hard to please him. 2) nice guys never explicitly go for the girl, they just play the "friend" card. She comes to care about you as a friend, nothing more. 3) friend zone = she's just not that into you.
I couldn't fit everything in one comment haha, so to continue:
If you're attractive, fun, sexy, nice, sweet and she feels the chemistry... why wouldn't she go for you? There's something you lack that she desires. It's just the way it is. Like a lot of people here have said, self confidence in a man is pretty key too. Be confident, be charming. Then you'll start scoring, if that's what you really want.
Not getting your point, sorry. If you mean my boyfriend is thirsty, he's a nice guy and I couldn't be more grateful to find him after the bad luck I've had. I think you must be in high school. High school sucks okay? It's different when you get out of high school. So don't worry about it, just focus on your grades and getting into a good university or something lol. None of those people will matter after you graduate.
Okay, but that was my point... that I didn't get your point! Lol I didn't know if you're talking about my bf as he was the one I was referring to, or random people.
And like so many have said, just STOP talking to those girls. Is it that difficult? Detach yourselves. She's not the one. Cut your losses. Cut the friendship since it bothers you so much.
"Cut the friendship since it bothers you so much."
I never said the friendship bothers me so much, I said the fact that she's complaining about something that is ultimately 100% her fault is what bothers me. You realize that for a majority of people there is something about there friends that bothers them to no end and makes them think they're morons in that aspect, but they still are friends with them.
Then... tell her it's dumb? That you don't really care tbh? That you don't feel like hearing it? I'm not really sure what you want to hear. If it's just to vent and get it off your chance, then just get it out there and let it go. I remember when I was 19, I was dating a terrible guy that I felt sorry for and let him move in with me, and ranted to this gross guy I was friends with about it. He let me, but he hated it too (because he wanted to have sex with me. I later found this out). But like I said, he had bad intentions.
"Then... tell her it's dumb? That you don't really care tbh? That you don't feel like hearing it?"
The question is do you really tell someone this when they're crying? When they're torn apart? When they feel like they don't want to live anymore? No, you try to make them feel better.
It's not the fact they complain to me, it's the fact they have the audacity to come to me and think that I should even give a damn that they're getting hurt by the assholes they keep pursuing.
Yes I do care that they're being hurt, but the fact still remains that when it's all said and done they go back to another similar asshole and then come back and with the intent of complaining to me "Why can't I find any good guys" or "I wish there were more guys like you" <---- There are, you friendzoned most of them though.
Yes I get it. Just like guys who go out with easy girls and then complain how they cheat on them, "whoes ain't loayl" when have whoes ever been loyal. I promise you I completely understand.
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Those girls are toxic. And stupid to fall for guys that are idiots.
What they do is toxic.
misogyny
No ur wrong. I Have a phd in general studies.
Girls like nice guys, just not pushover/weird dudes that pretend to be nice.
Nop, he's spot on right. For most girls a nice guy=loser.
I'm dating a nice guy. The guy that got told by girls in high school that he was "too nice." I'm 25, and I appreciate it because I was fooled by guys who I thought were nice, but we're actually jerks that put on fake charm.
Women like confidence. A guy I once "friend zoned" was a huge creep, short, unattractive and later got fired for sexual harassment. He claimed he was a nice guy. Hmm.
Also, it seems that many of these so-called nice guys are actually secretly trying to get with the girls who vent to them. "Pretending" to be friends but with an ulterior motive.
Most nice guys aren't creeps. Most are legit nice. The fake nice guys you are confusing with is the player guys who are fake nice to get laid.
All the "nice" guys who went for me were either very very unattractive OR they strived to be with the hot blonde that was mean and had no personality. Maybe they go for girls who are clearly out of their league. If guys can be shallow, why can't we to an extent?
Females love to be in denial. The point of this mytake is to basically say that girls say they want nice guys, but if they would think for a minute they would realize all the TRUE nice guys they through in the friendzoned. Meanwhile the fake nice guys are the ones they fall for, the popular assholes that don't give a damn about them.
You can deny it all you want, but after their heart is broken they ALWAYS run back to the nice guys they tossed into the friendzone and then complain about how they can't find any nice guys and how they wish their were more guys like the ones they have in the friendzone. We never tell you that you're foolish or that we don't want to hear what you have to say because, again we're nice and despite how much we really want to put you in your place we can't because we know that at that moment you're in a horrible state and need someone to comfort you.
It's not like you give a damn about we have to say, you go and chase more assholes then come back to us lol.
@primafacie just because a guy goes for a woman that is out of his league it doesn't mean he is not a nice guy lol. It just means he is being unrealistic.
Well guys, I don't know what to tell ya. I'm 25 and like I've said around this thread, I am dating a classic "nice guy" when only jerks ever went for me. I believe that when most women mature, they marry nice guys. What if I turned the tables and said... nice guys only go for MEAN GIRLS.
Manuel - but you see... if she is out of his league, why would she necessarily want to date him? Just because he grovels at her feet? People like to date people that are equally attractive to them.
I would kind of like to see some pictures of these guys and pictures of the girls they like lol. Because there are a ton of "shallow" guys that want a girl solely because she is good looking, and I feel like that's fine, but women are entitled to be picky when it comes to looks if they want to be too.
@primafacie
"I believe that when most women mature, they marry nice guys"
I believe this too, why? Because most women when they're older have had their heart broken enough times by these bad boys.
"nice guys only go for MEAN GIRLS."
Thirsty girls go for MEAN GIRLS and not every mean girl is good looking, most good looking girls aren't even as mean as you probably picture them.
"People like to date people that are equally attractive to them. "
Not all people care about looks, they're are other things that can make someone attractive. Looks get your foot in the door but the personality is what makes you more of less attractive, maybe not at all to some women/men.
I'm kind of starting to get an "Elliot Rodgers" feel about some of these guys who resent women that date "jerks"... lol?
I remember my boyfriend told me that in HS, one of the most pretty and popular girls (that he liked) tricked him into thinking she liked him, and then embarrassed him in front of a crowd. And I replied, "oh so that's why nice guys never went for me, they went for THOSE girls". I got the sense from him that he always went for that type. I mean, I was kind of an ugly duckling that blossomed as I got a bit older. Nice guys sure never went for me! lol shucks.
I think that:
1) girls get tricked - the guys are usually charming and seem nice, and by the time you realize they are not nice, you are dependent and constantly searching for that side of him that was nice. I was in an emotionally abusive relationship. I knew the guy was terrible, but I kept trying so hard to please him.
2) nice guys never explicitly go for the girl, they just play the "friend" card. She comes to care about you as a friend, nothing more.
3) friend zone = she's just not that into you.
Except he's not a nice guy, he's a thirsty ass sahara nigga. @primafacie.
There is a difference between a nice guy and a thirsty guy... thirsty guys (And people in general) deserve to be laughed at.
I couldn't fit everything in one comment haha, so to continue:
If you're attractive, fun, sexy, nice, sweet and she feels the chemistry... why wouldn't she go for you? There's something you lack that she desires. It's just the way it is. Like a lot of people here have said, self confidence in a man is pretty key too. Be confident, be charming. Then you'll start scoring, if that's what you really want.
Not getting your point, sorry. If you mean my boyfriend is thirsty, he's a nice guy and I couldn't be more grateful to find him after the bad luck I've had. I think you must be in high school. High school sucks okay? It's different when you get out of high school. So don't worry about it, just focus on your grades and getting into a good university or something lol. None of those people will matter after you graduate.
"If you mean my boyfriend is thirsty, he's a nice guy and I couldn't be more grateful to find him after the bad luck I've had."
That's good for you, but that doesn't change the fact that I never said nice guy are thirsty... I said fake nice guys are thirsty.
Okay, but that was my point... that I didn't get your point! Lol I didn't know if you're talking about my bf as he was the one I was referring to, or random people.
GUYS: Stop generalizing all women. Maybe some do choose assholes, but don't call it "girls" like its every single girl on the planet. Jesus Christ.
And like so many have said, just STOP talking to those girls. Is it that difficult? Detach yourselves. She's not the one. Cut your losses. Cut the friendship since it bothers you so much.
"Cut the friendship since it bothers you so much."
I never said the friendship bothers me so much, I said the fact that she's complaining about something that is ultimately 100% her fault is what bothers me. You realize that for a majority of people there is something about there friends that bothers them to no end and makes them think they're morons in that aspect, but they still are friends with them.
Then... tell her it's dumb? That you don't really care tbh? That you don't feel like hearing it? I'm not really sure what you want to hear. If it's just to vent and get it off your chance, then just get it out there and let it go. I remember when I was 19, I was dating a terrible guy that I felt sorry for and let him move in with me, and ranted to this gross guy I was friends with about it. He let me, but he hated it too (because he wanted to have sex with me. I later found this out). But like I said, he had bad intentions.
lol, get it off your chest*** not chance.
"Then... tell her it's dumb? That you don't really care tbh? That you don't feel like hearing it?"
The question is do you really tell someone this when they're crying? When they're torn apart? When they feel like they don't want to live anymore? No, you try to make them feel better.
This is why you have to be an alpha dick, you will just be happier trust me, it isn't very easy to do though.
Well I just sort of shut them down if they start talking about former boyfriends, I really don't care about them.
massive fedora warning here...
Seriously, more about "nice guys"? ..
Its all they talk about.
I don't like bad boys...
Unfortunately, sense is no longer common!
when some girls, im in love with the sweetest guy
Tell them to shuddap.
there so much more than just being nice.
@Lovii he never said there wasn't, he is just tired of his female friends complaining to him about the assholes.
It's not the fact they complain to me, it's the fact they have the audacity to come to me and think that I should even give a damn that they're getting hurt by the assholes they keep pursuing.
Yes I do care that they're being hurt, but the fact still remains that when it's all said and done they go back to another similar asshole and then come back and with the intent of complaining to me "Why can't I find any good guys" or "I wish there were more guys like you" <---- There are, you friendzoned most of them though.
@take owner that is what I meant.
@manuelmarquez I know, I just wanted to make that clear because that's what some guys think.
Yes I get it. Just like guys who go out with easy girls and then complain how they cheat on them, "whoes ain't loayl" when have whoes ever been loyal. I promise you I completely understand.
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