I don't have a racial hierarchy because I've found lots of beautiful and ugly women in all racial groups, but I have to say I find myself more attracted to Eurasian girls, Middle Eastern women and Indian women where I live.
Asian -> white -> black - > latin But i am thinking of switching "black" with "white" because it seems black girls are more fun to be around than white ones who are pretty annoying.
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i'm an Asian girl and i've honestly been attracted to every single race. hookedup with all sorts of ethnicities. i don't have a racial preference, but i do have a type
I'd say to be specific either Ethiopian guys or Swedish guys. Only ones that seem attractive to me really. I sorta like middle eastern too like Iranian men !
I like white guys with long black hair... and green eyes
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0 , 0 is the right answer! dont be a racist ok. you never know who you'll meet and how'll feel 'bout it, just don't no, just no!
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I'm Jamaican American and this is my list in order:
Latina Middle Eastern European/White Indian Asian Black
Yes I put Black women as least attractive due to their harsh personalities. Most of them are assertive, obnoxious and less docile and I find those traits unattractive. I couldn't picture marry one at all. Sorry =(.
Correlation doesn't mean causation is what the saying goes, is it not?
Am I not doing well in dating because of insecurity? Or am I insecure because of my lack of success in dating?
I know my experience. I remember my first rejection. Was I insecure then? No. The second time? Not yet. Did it occur over time? Yes. You're a pretty cool person, but don't shoot the shit with me like you know me.
It has nothing to do with racism. Preference isn't racism, right? People who will only date one particular race if dating interracial isn't racism. They have their choice, and it's fine.
But how do you know the rejection had to do with race? Was it actually stated as such?
I thought about this a lot and i do think that having preferences is someone rooted in believing that the race in question is inferior to another race. It's all based on generalizations, which is a bad way to live. You're right, I don't know you, but you can't say you asked this question without an agenda. You're looking for data to support your own thoughts from a really bad source. GAG is nowhere near a representative sample. But if you want to continue living with these delusions, be my guest.
Because those girls would date the presumed race post rejecting me, and I'd never see said girls date outside of my assumption which in turn validated them. Not only this, the vast, vast majority of my contemporaries only showed interest in men who were White.
I didn't think you'd find that conclusion. And you're right, there was an agenda, I wanted to see what I was looking for. I just want everyone to admit it, and own it. To stop acting like shit is 100%, clear cut equal and fair to everyone like we live in some utopic universe. I think deep down everyone knows it's racist, as you've deduced. So they want to avoid owning it.
But that's... how many girls? Like three? Lol. That's a pretty small sample number to draw a conclusion from. I can only imagine what kinds of girls you went for.
But what do you gain from everyone agreeing with you? Does that improve -your- life in any way? Will that change what kinds of people you find yourself attracted to? I mean... You'll never be able to get everyone to agree with you because it just isn't true. Sure, -some- people may feel that way, but obviously not everybody. You've consistently seen people prefer whites as well as people preferring -other- races on these types of questions. So... I don't really understand why you're wasting your time on pursuing the truth when there is no actual truth. There's x billion of people on this planet, nobody agrees about anything.
Lmao. From my own approaches yes, the number is small. But from the interest garnered by my contemporaries, it was towards Whites by a landslide. This is through the mediums of many years of school, hundreds of classmates, hundreds of co-workers, thousands of people I've been in the same venue with, and an innumerous number of opinions online (Not only GAG), polls, and Census marriage statistics.
Tell me, do you believe there is *zero* (0) percent in the disparity between race and what people find attractive? In other words, there isn't one (1) race who people view as the most attractive?
What will these questions change? Nothing, because my skin color and bone structure is still the same. A part of me feels I deserve the pain it makes me feel pretty much.
I've mainly seen the opposite- with most people preferring their own race above others. You've seen one thing. I've seen another... Who typically responds to Census surveys anyways? Lol. There's a bias to EVERYTHING in life. Every survey has a targeted audience, nothing is absolutely generalize-able. That's why you have to take such things with a grain of salt.
I think that people -do- have racial preferences, but I don't think that everyone will agree that Whites are the most attractive. I mean... come on. I've seen some super bad-looking white people. And considering the rate of obesity in the US and how many of those people are White... Lol. That's just dumb. There are hot people in all races... but to say one race is more attractive? Eeek. Like... that implies that someone would choose an ugly white guy over a super hot Asian guy just because the white guy was white... does that -really- happen? And you should consider what kinds of people would even make a decision like that...
I should have been more clear, I just speak freely assuming something like people preferring their own is already known/agreed between us. Everything I'm referring to is towards the small group of people who are interested in dating interracial. When I spoke of Census statistics I didn't mean surveys, but interracial marriage rates.
This is how I feel about interracial dating. If you're not White, you must go 10x harder. For a Hispanic, Black, or Asian man to be perceived as attractive we have to be *over the top* attractive, while White guys just need to be pretty attractive. And I've been undesirable and rejected far before the insecurities. Considering the loneliness it's more like waste of existence and a waste of space.
But... interracial dating =/= interracial marriages. The trend you may be seeing with marriages may not be seen in dating- especially since there's such divisive opinions on marriage itself. Do you know the average ages of who is getting married? How they met? What the context was? I mean... there's just so many variables to consider, imo.
I don't think so. Granted, I'm coming from a very diverse place where interracial dating is quite common and no one thinks twice about it. Can you give me examples of two guys of different races that you think would be rated the same way? I... have never done that and I don't know anyone who values white skin to such a degree as to forego traditional aesthetic value for... a skin color. That sounds like something brainwashed people from older generations might do.
Those same variables are subject to the other races as well. For example, would the disparity be even greater had the women who married non-Whites had better access to White men? The most I can take from said statistics is indications, it's just one piece of evidence that supports something.
Imagine that we conducted a survey that was randomly assigned, all variables/demographics such as age, race, location, education, wealth etc. were accounted for... Do you truly believe if the survey asked: "Which race of people are more aesthetically beautiful, Whites or Nigerians?" do you truly believe the results would come out 50% to 50%?
I remember seeing posts of yours saying Whites are considered more desirable due to things such as media or colonialism. Why a change of heart now?
@harakiri I've seen like hundreds of questions from black women asking whether or not white guys will date them. Where were you just yesterday to protest the 35234234th question on white approval from them?
Or conversely, would they have married Whites if they had better access to non-Whites? Lol. Come on.
But you have to understand that not everyone knows what a Nigerian person looks like... I mean.. I know if you showed me a picture of someone Black and asked me which African country they came from, I wouldn't be able to tell you. The majority of the country is White. That's a pretty important fact to factor in when considering this topic. My grandma was born and raised in her native country and finds White people, particularly blue-eyed White people, to be ghastly unattractive. She just is not familiar with the aesthetics and is jarred by their looks. It's all about what you're familiar with, what the media tells you, etc. If you took all that way and let people judge free of all that nonsense, I wonder what we could learn from that. I think when attempting to answer that question people will think of -famous- White people
or Nigerian people... (i. e. celebs) Like... you have to think about what comes into the forefront of someone's mind when they're answering a question like that only really knowing what ONE choice is about.
How is that a change of heart? I stated what the media is portraying- which is not how I approach the subject at all.
@Onassi: Why should I do that? I'm TIRED of doing that. I tend to avoid those questions because they're a waste of time and typically the same three users are asking that question. It's boring.
well, you did it here... and i never see people like you protest when the race question is made by one of your own (ie. women). It's only when a guy makes a question about race do you ladies tend to make a fuss about it... no offence.. but this is what i have observed. There is no consistency
Well last time I made a comment, the LADY blocked me so I was like... fuck that drama. I was actually debating even answering this one, but I did anyways, and then QA over here gave MH to that anon idiot which just made me mad.
I was aware of that twist, which is why I said all of our concerns regarding the validity of the marriage statistics can equally be subjected to each other. It's only one of the many pieces of evidence that supports the idea that Whites are most desired.
More simple: If you survey Indians, Middle Easterns, East Asians, and Hispanics "Who's more attractive, Black or Whites?" are you saying it would be 50% to 50%? Again, all variables/demographics such as age, race, location, education, wealth etc. were accounted for.
You're aware that in the Middle East, Asia, India, and South America dark skin is considered less attractive than light skin. Light skin is regarded as beautiful to the majority of them. Do you deny that they feel that way?
Why is it idiotic that I gave him MH? The majority of people you said you found attractive correlated with his statement. Whites most desired, Blacks least desired.
Yes, I'm aware that paler skin is seen as more attractive in those countries, probably due to the implications of imperialism. What if the British were actually black and they came in and dominated all of these countries, displaying their power and financial powers? Maybe then being darker would be seen as more attractive. I don't know how long such beliefs have existed though. I hypothesize that imperialism is related but that's like 1600s on, right? I don't know if this idea that lighter skin is more attractive persisted prior to this time. Like in my grandma's case- she thinks lighter skin is more attractive, but lighter skin isn't the same as white skin lol. She means lighter skin amongst brown people is the most attractive. Anyways, that's a different topic altogether. How would people answer that poll? I don't know. I have to think about it more. Are we assuming these people are Americans?
Correct. So how can you tell me I have an equal chance to Whites in getting interest from those women? Like I said, you have to go 10x harder in order to be recognized as attractive. You have to be Idris Elba, or Tyson Beckford.
Lets assume we ask both in two different surveys. How do they both come out?
When those questions come up, people list celebs because they're well-known. Most celebs, in my opinion are attractive in one way or another, so of course the black guys who get listed are going to be attractive. DUH. It's not like I can tell you that Mark Andre from bio class was super bangable. You have no idea who I'm talking about lol.
I suppose that both might favor White people. But that doesn't mean that you can't date other races because -some- people feel that way. Why would you -want- to date someone who feels like that? I mean, the second I learn that a guy is not into brown girls, I immediately get turned off by him. Like oh... well... you're kind of a fuckwad. You can't expect everyone to want to date you. Look at all the WHITE virgins on this site who can't get gfs or bfs. Clearly being white isn't curing them of their issues.
I get that, but if Black celebrities made up (Arbitrary number) 10% of the celebrities, you would then assume they would make up 10% of those listed as attractive. And that isn't the case.
"As you can see, the races all match each other roughly evenly: good news. It means all other things being equal, two people, of whatever race, should have the same chance to have a successful relationshp. But now let’s look at the table of how individuals actually reply to each other’s messages. White men get more responses. Whatever it is, white males just get more replies from almost every group."
Obviously this is from a particular website and demographic, and can't be taken as solid scientific evidence, but a 500,000 sample size has "some" significance. I agree I wouldn't want to date a girl like that either, I'm not interested in dating them. I'm not even saying White automatically means you're attractive,
are those stats from OK Cupid? Lol. Ahhhhhhhhhh. 500,000 is a large number but when your sample is people of a certain age and mindset (proponents of online dating, etc)... too many variables come into play.
I think being an attractive white male has its perks, but if you're unattractive, being white isn't really going to do you any real favors. White people are the majority in the country, likely to be the majority on such websites, so... doesn't it make sense that there would be a higher proportion of attractive white males in that group?
Anyways, we don't have to keep talking about this. It's tiring :(
It's tiring? You were posting around here, I'm surprised you even bothered to come back to answer this.
I also feel you're dancing around the obvious. You know Whites are most desired. You know Blacks are completely undesirable and actually forbidden to be dated among many families. We don't need polls, or scientific data. We are aware of our cultures. We don't need scientific data to know such cultural norms and beliefs exist.
Yeah, it's tiring. I came back to respond because it would have been rude not to. We can go back and forth forever, I'm never going to get you to see differently. So it's a pointless venture.
Rude, that's true. I genuinely appreciate that. And you're right, there's nothing you can say that would change my opinion. There's too many references that validate them. References in the majority of those I interacted with, including you (Jordanian).
1. White 2. Middle Eastern or Latino 3. Everything else
LOL. I wrote that as an answer once because I encountered one super hot Jordanian guy. Just one. I don't think I've met any other Jordanian people. I was being facetious and super specific since I hate race questions and rarely answer them properly.
I know your preferences. Your avatars are quite expressive.
You are a slippery, and very difficult person to read. I think you like it that way too. I swear, one day you're going to be with a light middle eastern guy, some mestizo latino, or a White guy. Although, I'm betting on the White one.
You said you tend to like guys who never like you (Thanks for that, btw). What race were they?
Of course I do. Transparency bores me. Lol why white?
I was talking about guys who I know in person, which could result in an actual, physical, face-to-face relationship. Let's see. The serious crushes were brown, black, hispanic, and white. Though the former two were more "real" in a way. You should know by now that I don't think of race the way you do. Or the way you think all women see it.
Transparency bores you, I figured I'd be too boring for you. I'm like an open book. Why White? Most of the things you're into are pretty White, music wise, tv show wise, and the lingo you use.
You think I would never relocate for face to face? Even in the meantime visit often? You told me about the brown one, but not a Black one being real. What happened with that? Btw, I'm not sure if you're lying about that to not make me feel bad. Don't worry about that.
Lol why don't you believe me? Girls I've listed here were Indian, Hawaiian, Black, African, Middle Eastern, etc. Jasmine Sanders is Black and German like me just really good looking.
I used the word transparency to refer to myself, not to other people. Lol. So speaking and writing proper English is a white thing? Listening to soundtrack music and alt rock and Korean pop is white? That's so fucking ridiculous, I can't even process it. You can't say that being an articulate, competent English speaker is being white. It's me actually paying attention in class. And you can't say my "interests" are white. Wtf. I can't say that most of my white friends are into what I'm into.
I don't know what you would or wouldn't do. Same thing happened with the other guys, they just weren't into me for whatever reason. I suspect it has to do with just not being attracted to me in that way, physically and mentally. According to you, most guys want someone white so I've failed on that measure alone.
"Lol. So speaking and writing proper English is a white thing? Listening to soundtrack music and alt rock and Korean pop is white? "
Nope! Don't you even go there. That is not even *close* to what I meant. I speak fairly proper English, I listen to soundtrack music, you should already know that isn't my point. I can't recall off the top of my head some of the songs/artists you mentioned, or some of the lingo you used (No surprise, considering I have zero schema for them). But it was that and the British TV shows.
Btw, it does *not* mean I'm saying you're White, or are "acting White" (Re-read 1000x). I'm simply saying that music, the particular slang (Not proper English), television shows and other varies interests are White culture. --- There's nothing wrong with that --- but that is my reasoning as to why I believe you're most interested and will end up with a White guy.
You never know unless you give it a chance. NOPE, I never said guys want White --- I said GIRLS want
What lingo, what particular slang? British TV shows... wtf. How is that white? It's more of "I had nothing better to do and somehow landed on E4 Channel and got hooked onto Skins" -and- "Oh. I like Sherlock Holmes. Maybe the show will be good" -and- "Henry the VIII has always fascinated, let's check out Tudors. Apparently lots of people get naked in there too." Has nothing to do with "Oh. Shows with white people. MUST CHECK OUT. Shows that white people seem to like. MUST CHECK OUT." I don't even think about white people as a whole like that, in my head. So no, I disagree with you completely when you say that I'm most interested in white guys.
Lol. I've seen so many posts on here saying white girls are the best. So if white guys are the best (which is something you believe, obviously), then I don't find it too difficult to believe that you feel the same way about white girls. It's either that or perhaps there's a touch of sexism going around too.
I can't remember, I have no schema to have remembered them. Maybe next time I see it I'll point it out for you. And dude, do you think this is how my mental process is going? "She see's these TV's and says 'Oh, White people are in it.. must watch!!'"? Lmao. Even for a girl who prefers White guys, I don't think she goes "He's Black = disqualified. He's White, I want to talk to him!" It's rather an automatic, subconscious allure or affinity which draws you closer to them. Not something malicious or premeditated.
"According to you, most guys want someone white so I've failed on that measure alone."
But you never heard ME say that though... I do believe girls want White guys, or guys who are close to it such as Middle Eastern, mestizo Latino like Enrique Iglesies, etc.
The posts here who say White girls are the best are from WHITE GUYS. If they weren't your preference it wouldn't be a problem.
Please do point it out. What the hell do you think is so alluring about white dudes? LOL. I mean... you make them sound so good but I feel like I'm just not seeing it. You must know something that I don't. Though I suppose that'll remain a mystery since it's subconscious.
How is Middle Eastern close to white? LOL. Ohmygod... Enrique will never pass for white. He is quite obviously Latino imo. There are hot Middle Eastern and Latino men out there but I can't say that their appeal lies in being able to pass for a white dude. I mean that Jordanian guy had one of those headdress thingies on his head. That... does not scream "white" to me.
You may not have said it, but maybe you think it. Why not? It really isn't a far leap at all. There are many guys who feel like you do- who are interested in interracial dating... specifically dating white girls. You can say otherwise, I'm not going to believe you anyways. Sort of like how you don't believe me.
These guys can't pass for White, but head dress or not the first guy looks closer to White. Enrique Iglesies couldn't pass for White, but he is mestizo, meaning Latino and White.
" You can say otherwise, I'm not going to believe you anyways. Sort of like how you don't believe me. "
Are you serious? Do you really believe that? Honestly I agree with your first few sentences in that paragraph. Most non-White guys who complain of the inequalities just want White girls and are angry that they aren't getting them.
I feel it's completely hypocritical to dislike your own race, but expect others to like you. That isn't the case with me.
Lol. I actually find the second guy a lot more attractive than the first guy. I know for a fact I did not post a picture looking like that first guy, I don't find him attractive at all... are you confusing me with another user possibly?
I'm totally serious. Though it's good to know you aren't hating on your own race. That would be a whole other can of worms. And you can hypothesize all you want about it, I'm not going to discuss it with you.
Lmao, that is bull. I wish there was a means of finding the post, but GAGs search function is terrible. I'm 100 percent certain it was you, but the features I'm thinking of are probably different than what you're focusing on.
So you believed that the entire time you've known me.. I didn't expect that. Well, would you like to hear my list, being completely honest? Well tell me if I'm right, it's because Jasmine Sanders is very light, has light eyes, and this girl because she's White and blonde. Am I close? I'm not sure how you're reading my tone, but I'm calm and cool. If we were face to face, you'd be comfortable. Or maybe you wouldn't, from what I know of you, you seem hot tempered and that you'd probably have done something to me by now.
Of course it's bull to you. It isn't what YOU believe so of course it can't possibly be true. If you ever do find it, let me know.
It doesn't matter what your rankings are or what your preference is. I'm going do exactly what you've been doing. I'm going to ignore everyyyything you have to say and just keeping thinking what I'm thinking. So don't even bother.
I won't write you again after this. I just feel you deserve to know that it didn't erase all the good things about you. And I don't want you to feel judged. I'd just be lying to you if I said I wasn't *emphatically* crushed. I slept 3 hours, can't sleep. A fucking guy who put in 1/100th of the time, effort and soul, but got 100x further than I EVER did in 1/100th the time.
So I just had to let you know it isn't *you.* I just feel too inadequate for you, and I'm just aware that nothing can my view on that now. The proof is there in plain sight.
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I don't have a racial hierarchy because I've found lots of beautiful and ugly women in all racial groups, but I have to say I find myself more attracted to Eurasian girls, Middle Eastern women and Indian women where I live.
Africans
African American
Asians
Latino
European
White
I'm a 17 year old white girl.
South of Europe people-latin american-white people-black people-middle eastern-asians-gingers
For me gingers is also some of the least preferred. But black people are below there at my list.
White
Native American
Asian
Hispanic
Black
Island Pacificer
Middle Eastern
I'm a white 17-year-old female.
Asian -> white -> black - > latin
But i am thinking of switching "black" with "white" because it seems black girls are more fun to be around than white ones who are pretty annoying.
i'm an Asian girl and i've honestly been attracted to every single race. hookedup with all sorts of ethnicities. i don't have a racial preference, but i do have a type
Which have you hooked up with?
white, African american, african, hispanic, iranian, indian, Asian
I'd say to be specific either Ethiopian guys or Swedish guys. Only ones that seem attractive to me really. I sorta like middle eastern too like Iranian men !
I don't have a most only least and it's Asian. (no offense to anyone Asian)
I doubt they'll take offense, the feeling is mutual from what I hear/see.
Honestly, i have very little in terms of preference. i haven't bought into the warped views on race as some others have
Ermm..
- Indian
- Black
- Arab/Middle Eastern/North African
- East Asian
- Hispanic
- White
Most white girls look ugly to me... sorry.. lol.
Wait, are you white?
No, I am black. I'm just stating my preference, get the fuck over it..
I like white guys with long black hair... and green eyes
0 , 0 is the right answer! dont be a racist ok. you never know who you'll meet and how'll feel 'bout it, just don't no, just no!
I'm Jamaican American and this is my list in order:
Latina
Middle Eastern
European/White
Indian
Asian
Black
Yes I put Black women as least attractive due to their harsh personalities. Most of them are assertive, obnoxious and less docile and I find those traits unattractive. I couldn't picture marry one at all. Sorry =(.
When we're talking about race preference, we're talking about looks. Not culture or personality.
I really don't have racial preference, I love human LOL
Who are the most attractive celebrities to you?
Minho Lee, Matt Bomer, Taye Diggs, etc etc
And may I ask what race are you?
Asian
That's an unusual celebrity lineup for an Asian. Thanks for asking.
Answering* lol
i literally love all good looking people in every race
Not many women in Hong Kong feel that way.
Eastern European
Scandinavian
Other Europeans
Hispanic
Persian
East Asians
Black
Fair enough, thanks for answering.
White, blanco, albus, bianco, byankao, Shiro, weiss, witte, blank
-LOL!
In other words white women and only white women. Have a problem with that?
Lmao. No, like whatever you want. What race are you?
I'm white, what else would I be?
I really don't have any. I'd date a woman of any color. This stuff has no influence on who I choose.
I have none!!! Been out with all kind of female. I am puertorican. My girl now I Irish. But that's just me
We all know the the least attractive for all men would be black women... sigh we never win...
Purple
Green
Blue
Magenta
White
Cool.
Why ask this question? It's been asked 3989284023 times before... What do you gain from the answers?
Most questions have been asked before.
If most questions have been asked before, then why ask this one?
With that logic, why ask any questions?
Why ask the -same- question, over and over?
I'm purple. I have a chance!
Purple and gorgeous :D
I'm pretty sure we all know the answer. It's obviously just to start shit.
Not really.
QA wants everyone to say White is best so that he'll have a reason to explain why his love life is a barren desert.
Also QA, I did say shut up, right? Just do it already :)
Well, it is a formidable reason. You know it.
It's a formidable reason if you're actively seeking racist people. Is that your type?
Correlation doesn't mean causation is what the saying goes, is it not?
Am I not doing well in dating because of insecurity? Or am I insecure because of my lack of success in dating?
I know my experience. I remember my first rejection. Was I insecure then? No. The second time? Not yet. Did it occur over time? Yes. You're a pretty cool person, but don't shoot the shit with me like you know me.
It has nothing to do with racism. Preference isn't racism, right? People who will only date one particular race if dating interracial isn't racism. They have their choice, and it's fine.
But how do you know the rejection had to do with race? Was it actually stated as such?
I thought about this a lot and i do think that having preferences is someone rooted in believing that the race in question is inferior to another race. It's all based on generalizations, which is a bad way to live. You're right, I don't know you, but you can't say you asked this question without an agenda. You're looking for data to support your own thoughts from a really bad source. GAG is nowhere near a representative sample. But if you want to continue living with these delusions, be my guest.
Somewhat* rooted
Because those girls would date the presumed race post rejecting me, and I'd never see said girls date outside of my assumption which in turn validated them. Not only this, the vast, vast majority of my contemporaries only showed interest in men who were White.
I didn't think you'd find that conclusion. And you're right, there was an agenda, I wanted to see what I was looking for. I just want everyone to admit it, and own it. To stop acting like shit is 100%, clear cut equal and fair to everyone like we live in some utopic universe. I think deep down everyone knows it's racist, as you've deduced. So they want to avoid owning it.
However, those girls did like men who met certain stereotypes they fetishized.
But that's... how many girls? Like three? Lol. That's a pretty small sample number to draw a conclusion from. I can only imagine what kinds of girls you went for.
But what do you gain from everyone agreeing with you? Does that improve -your- life in any way? Will that change what kinds of people you find yourself attracted to? I mean... You'll never be able to get everyone to agree with you because it just isn't true. Sure, -some- people may feel that way, but obviously not everybody. You've consistently seen people prefer whites as well as people preferring -other- races on these types of questions. So... I don't really understand why you're wasting your time on pursuing the truth when there is no actual truth. There's x billion of people on this planet, nobody agrees about anything.
Lmao. From my own approaches yes, the number is small. But from the interest garnered by my contemporaries, it was towards Whites by a landslide. This is through the mediums of many years of school, hundreds of classmates, hundreds of co-workers, thousands of people I've been in the same venue with, and an innumerous number of opinions online (Not only GAG), polls, and Census marriage statistics.
Tell me, do you believe there is *zero* (0) percent in the disparity between race and what people find attractive? In other words, there isn't one (1) race who people view as the most attractive?
What will these questions change? Nothing, because my skin color and bone structure is still the same. A part of me feels I deserve the pain it makes me feel pretty much.
Not what people find most attractive as a 7+ billion person consensus, but the majority of opinions.
There are people who find Lightburn Zeta to be a beautiful car, but 90 percent of people won't, and I think that's being generous.
I've mainly seen the opposite- with most people preferring their own race above others. You've seen one thing. I've seen another... Who typically responds to Census surveys anyways? Lol. There's a bias to EVERYTHING in life. Every survey has a targeted audience, nothing is absolutely generalize-able. That's why you have to take such things with a grain of salt.
I think that people -do- have racial preferences, but I don't think that everyone will agree that Whites are the most attractive. I mean... come on. I've seen some super bad-looking white people. And considering the rate of obesity in the US and how many of those people are White... Lol. That's just dumb. There are hot people in all races... but to say one race is more attractive? Eeek. Like... that implies that someone would choose an ugly white guy over a super hot Asian guy just because the white guy was white... does that -really- happen? And you should consider what kinds of people would even make a decision like that...
And you don't deserve the pain it makes you feel. That is just plain dumb. Seriously. What a waste of emotion.
Yes purple people rule :)
I should have been more clear, I just speak freely assuming something like people preferring their own is already known/agreed between us. Everything I'm referring to is towards the small group of people who are interested in dating interracial. When I spoke of Census statistics I didn't mean surveys, but interracial marriage rates.
This is how I feel about interracial dating. If you're not White, you must go 10x harder. For a Hispanic, Black, or Asian man to be perceived as attractive we have to be *over the top* attractive, while White guys just need to be pretty attractive. And I've been undesirable and rejected far before the insecurities. Considering the loneliness it's more like waste of existence and a waste of space.
But... interracial dating =/= interracial marriages. The trend you may be seeing with marriages may not be seen in dating- especially since there's such divisive opinions on marriage itself. Do you know the average ages of who is getting married? How they met? What the context was? I mean... there's just so many variables to consider, imo.
I don't think so. Granted, I'm coming from a very diverse place where interracial dating is quite common and no one thinks twice about it. Can you give me examples of two guys of different races that you think would be rated the same way? I... have never done that and I don't know anyone who values white skin to such a degree as to forego traditional aesthetic value for... a skin color. That sounds like something brainwashed people from older generations might do.
Those same variables are subject to the other races as well. For example, would the disparity be even greater had the women who married non-Whites had better access to White men? The most I can take from said statistics is indications, it's just one piece of evidence that supports something.
Imagine that we conducted a survey that was randomly assigned, all variables/demographics such as age, race, location, education, wealth etc. were accounted for... Do you truly believe if the survey asked: "Which race of people are more aesthetically beautiful, Whites or Nigerians?" do you truly believe the results would come out 50% to 50%?
I remember seeing posts of yours saying Whites are considered more desirable due to things such as media or colonialism. Why a change of heart now?
@harakiri I've seen like hundreds of questions from black women asking whether or not white guys will date them. Where were you just yesterday to protest the 35234234th question on white approval from them?
Or conversely, would they have married Whites if they had better access to non-Whites? Lol. Come on.
But you have to understand that not everyone knows what a Nigerian person looks like... I mean.. I know if you showed me a picture of someone Black and asked me which African country they came from, I wouldn't be able to tell you. The majority of the country is White. That's a pretty important fact to factor in when considering this topic. My grandma was born and raised in her native country and finds White people, particularly blue-eyed White people, to be ghastly unattractive. She just is not familiar with the aesthetics and is jarred by their looks. It's all about what you're familiar with, what the media tells you, etc. If you took all that way and let people judge free of all that nonsense, I wonder what we could learn from that. I think when attempting to answer that question people will think of -famous- White people
or Nigerian people... (i. e. celebs) Like... you have to think about what comes into the forefront of someone's mind when they're answering a question like that only really knowing what ONE choice is about.
How is that a change of heart? I stated what the media is portraying- which is not how I approach the subject at all.
@Onassi: Why should I do that? I'm TIRED of doing that. I tend to avoid those questions because they're a waste of time and typically the same three users are asking that question. It's boring.
well, you did it here... and i never see people like you protest when the race question is made by one of your own (ie. women). It's only when a guy makes a question about race do you ladies tend to make a fuss about it... no offence.. but this is what i have observed. There is no consistency
Well last time I made a comment, the LADY blocked me so I was like... fuck that drama. I was actually debating even answering this one, but I did anyways, and then QA over here gave MH to that anon idiot which just made me mad.
I was aware of that twist, which is why I said all of our concerns regarding the validity of the marriage statistics can equally be subjected to each other. It's only one of the many pieces of evidence that supports the idea that Whites are most desired.
More simple: If you survey Indians, Middle Easterns, East Asians, and Hispanics "Who's more attractive, Black or Whites?" are you saying it would be 50% to 50%? Again, all variables/demographics such as age, race, location, education, wealth etc. were accounted for.
You're aware that in the Middle East, Asia, India, and South America dark skin is considered less attractive than light skin. Light skin is regarded as beautiful to the majority of them. Do you deny that they feel that way?
Why is it idiotic that I gave him MH? The majority of people you said you found attractive correlated with his statement. Whites most desired, Blacks least desired.
Yes, I'm aware that paler skin is seen as more attractive in those countries, probably due to the implications of imperialism. What if the British were actually black and they came in and dominated all of these countries, displaying their power and financial powers? Maybe then being darker would be seen as more attractive. I don't know how long such beliefs have existed though. I hypothesize that imperialism is related but that's like 1600s on, right? I don't know if this idea that lighter skin is more attractive persisted prior to this time. Like in my grandma's case- she thinks lighter skin is more attractive, but lighter skin isn't the same as white skin lol. She means lighter skin amongst brown people is the most attractive. Anyways, that's a different topic altogether. How would people answer that poll? I don't know. I have to think about it more. Are we assuming these people are Americans?
It's idiotic because you gave it to the first person who supported your personal views. It's... a classic stupid thing to do, imo.
And as you said to me, you don't really know me... And therefore do not know my preferences, if I have any.
Correct. So how can you tell me I have an equal chance to Whites in getting interest from those women? Like I said, you have to go 10x harder in order to be recognized as attractive. You have to be Idris Elba, or Tyson Beckford.
Lets assume we ask both in two different surveys. How do they both come out?
It did support my personal views, but we all know it's true. Just because it's due to imperialism doesn't make it untrue.
When those questions come up, people list celebs because they're well-known. Most celebs, in my opinion are attractive in one way or another, so of course the black guys who get listed are going to be attractive. DUH. It's not like I can tell you that Mark Andre from bio class was super bangable. You have no idea who I'm talking about lol.
I suppose that both might favor White people. But that doesn't mean that you can't date other races because -some- people feel that way. Why would you -want- to date someone who feels like that? I mean, the second I learn that a guy is not into brown girls, I immediately get turned off by him. Like oh... well... you're kind of a fuckwad. You can't expect everyone to want to date you. Look at all the WHITE virgins on this site who can't get gfs or bfs. Clearly being white isn't curing them of their issues.
I get that, but if Black celebrities made up (Arbitrary number) 10% of the celebrities, you would then assume they would make up 10% of those listed as attractive. And that isn't the case.
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"As you can see, the races all match each other roughly evenly: good news. It means all other things being equal, two people, of whatever race, should have the same chance to have a successful relationshp. But now let’s look at the table of how individuals actually reply to each other’s messages. White men get more responses. Whatever it is, white males just get more replies from almost every group."
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Obviously this is from a particular website and demographic, and can't be taken as solid scientific evidence, but a 500,000 sample size has "some" significance. I agree I wouldn't want to date a girl like that either, I'm not interested in dating them. I'm not even saying White automatically means you're attractive,
I'm just saying if you're White you're more likely to be desired by other races.
are those stats from OK Cupid? Lol. Ahhhhhhhhhh. 500,000 is a large number but when your sample is people of a certain age and mindset (proponents of online dating, etc)... too many variables come into play.
I think being an attractive white male has its perks, but if you're unattractive, being white isn't really going to do you any real favors. White people are the majority in the country, likely to be the majority on such websites, so... doesn't it make sense that there would be a higher proportion of attractive white males in that group?
Anyways, we don't have to keep talking about this. It's tiring :(
It's tiring? You were posting around here, I'm surprised you even bothered to come back to answer this.
I also feel you're dancing around the obvious. You know Whites are most desired. You know Blacks are completely undesirable and actually forbidden to be dated among many families. We don't need polls, or scientific data. We are aware of our cultures. We don't need scientific data to know such cultural norms and beliefs exist.
Yeah, it's tiring. I came back to respond because it would have been rude not to. We can go back and forth forever, I'm never going to get you to see differently. So it's a pointless venture.
I disagree. Completely.
Rude, that's true. I genuinely appreciate that. And you're right, there's nothing you can say that would change my opinion. There's too many references that validate them. References in the majority of those I interacted with, including you (Jordanian).
1. White
2. Middle Eastern or Latino
3. Everything else
What? I'm not Jordanian lol. And what you listed?
have you*
I didn't say that, I was referring to what you stated as your preference: Jordanian.
Are you asking have I listed *my* preferences?
LOL. I wrote that as an answer once because I encountered one super hot Jordanian guy. Just one. I don't think I've met any other Jordanian people. I was being facetious and super specific since I hate race questions and rarely answer them properly.
I know your preferences. Your avatars are quite expressive.
You are a slippery, and very difficult person to read. I think you like it that way too. I swear, one day you're going to be with a light middle eastern guy, some mestizo latino, or a White guy. Although, I'm betting on the White one.
You said you tend to like guys who never like you (Thanks for that, btw). What race were they?
Lmao. These girls are *not* my preference.
Of course I do. Transparency bores me. Lol why white?
I was talking about guys who I know in person, which could result in an actual, physical, face-to-face relationship. Let's see. The serious crushes were brown, black, hispanic, and white. Though the former two were more "real" in a way. You should know by now that I don't think of race the way you do. Or the way you think all women see it.
Sure.
Transparency bores you, I figured I'd be too boring for you. I'm like an open book. Why White? Most of the things you're into are pretty White, music wise, tv show wise, and the lingo you use.
You think I would never relocate for face to face? Even in the meantime visit often? You told me about the brown one, but not a Black one being real. What happened with that? Btw, I'm not sure if you're lying about that to not make me feel bad. Don't worry about that.
Lol why don't you believe me? Girls I've listed here were Indian, Hawaiian, Black, African, Middle Eastern, etc. Jasmine Sanders is Black and German like me just really good looking.
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I used the word transparency to refer to myself, not to other people. Lol. So speaking and writing proper English is a white thing? Listening to soundtrack music and alt rock and Korean pop is white? That's so fucking ridiculous, I can't even process it. You can't say that being an articulate, competent English speaker is being white. It's me actually paying attention in class. And you can't say my "interests" are white. Wtf. I can't say that most of my white friends are into what I'm into.
I don't know what you would or wouldn't do. Same thing happened with the other guys, they just weren't into me for whatever reason. I suspect it has to do with just not being attracted to me in that way, physically and mentally. According to you, most guys want someone white so I've failed on that measure alone.
Yeah, stunning.
"Lol. So speaking and writing proper English is a white thing? Listening to soundtrack music and alt rock and Korean pop is white? "
Nope! Don't you even go there. That is not even *close* to what I meant. I speak fairly proper English, I listen to soundtrack music, you should already know that isn't my point. I can't recall off the top of my head some of the songs/artists you mentioned, or some of the lingo you used (No surprise, considering I have zero schema for them). But it was that and the British TV shows.
Btw, it does *not* mean I'm saying you're White, or are "acting White" (Re-read 1000x). I'm simply saying that music, the particular slang (Not proper English), television shows and other varies interests are White culture. --- There's nothing wrong with that --- but that is my reasoning as to why I believe you're most interested and will end up with a White guy.
You never know unless you give it a chance. NOPE, I never said guys want White --- I said GIRLS want
White.
"Yeah, stunning." I sense your tone. Can you tell me what you really feel?
And I listen to rock. My Chemical Romance is my favorite band for Gods sake lol.
What lingo, what particular slang? British TV shows... wtf. How is that white? It's more of "I had nothing better to do and somehow landed on E4 Channel and got hooked onto Skins" -and- "Oh. I like Sherlock Holmes. Maybe the show will be good" -and- "Henry the VIII has always fascinated, let's check out Tudors. Apparently lots of people get naked in there too." Has nothing to do with "Oh. Shows with white people. MUST CHECK OUT. Shows that white people seem to like. MUST CHECK OUT." I don't even think about white people as a whole like that, in my head. So no, I disagree with you completely when you say that I'm most interested in white guys.
Lol. I've seen so many posts on here saying white girls are the best. So if white guys are the best (which is something you believe, obviously), then I don't find it too difficult to believe that you feel the same way about white girls. It's either that or perhaps there's a touch of sexism going around too.
I can't remember, I have no schema to have remembered them. Maybe next time I see it I'll point it out for you. And dude, do you think this is how my mental process is going? "She see's these TV's and says 'Oh, White people are in it.. must watch!!'"? Lmao. Even for a girl who prefers White guys, I don't think she goes "He's Black = disqualified. He's White, I want to talk to him!" It's rather an automatic, subconscious allure or affinity which draws you closer to them. Not something malicious or premeditated.
"According to you, most guys want someone white so I've failed on that measure alone."
But you never heard ME say that though... I do believe girls want White guys, or guys who are close to it such as Middle Eastern, mestizo Latino like Enrique Iglesies, etc.
The posts here who say White girls are the best are from WHITE GUYS. If they weren't your preference it wouldn't be a problem.
"Yeah, stunning."
Again, why such tone here? Tell me how you really feel.
See's these TV shows* wow.
Please do point it out. What the hell do you think is so alluring about white dudes? LOL. I mean... you make them sound so good but I feel like I'm just not seeing it. You must know something that I don't. Though I suppose that'll remain a mystery since it's subconscious.
How is Middle Eastern close to white? LOL. Ohmygod... Enrique will never pass for white. He is quite obviously Latino imo. There are hot Middle Eastern and Latino men out there but I can't say that their appeal lies in being able to pass for a white dude. I mean that Jordanian guy had one of those headdress thingies on his head. That... does not scream "white" to me.
You may not have said it, but maybe you think it. Why not? It really isn't a far leap at all. There are many guys who feel like you do- who are interested in interracial dating... specifically dating white girls. You can say otherwise, I'm not going to believe you anyways. Sort of like how you don't believe me.
And you know why I have a tone.
Lmao, **I** don't think there's anything alluring about them.
I'm not saying they could pass for White, I'm saying they are the closest to White of all non-Whites. Such as the Jordanian men you posted!
The Jordanian pictures you posted here looked like this: www.malemodelscene.net/.../...ay-John-Pila-03a.jpg
Not like this: playingwithscarves.files.wordpress.com/.../jordanian.jpg
These guys can't pass for White, but head dress or not the first guy looks closer to White. Enrique Iglesies couldn't pass for White, but he is mestizo, meaning Latino and White.
" You can say otherwise, I'm not going to believe you anyways. Sort of like how you don't believe me. "
Are you serious? Do you really believe that? Honestly I agree with your first few sentences in that paragraph. Most non-White guys who complain of the inequalities just want White girls and are angry that they aren't getting them.
I feel it's completely hypocritical to dislike your own race, but expect others to like you. That isn't the case with me.
I have an *idea* why you have that tone, but I'm not 100% sure...
Lol. I actually find the second guy a lot more attractive than the first guy. I know for a fact I did not post a picture looking like that first guy, I don't find him attractive at all... are you confusing me with another user possibly?
I'm totally serious. Though it's good to know you aren't hating on your own race. That would be a whole other can of worms. And you can hypothesize all you want about it, I'm not going to discuss it with you.
Shits.. after reading everyone'ss comment , i realised One who lands in America will become shallow with in two days itself.
Insaan, you know very well that shallow people exist everywhere.
Lmao, that is bull. I wish there was a means of finding the post, but GAGs search function is terrible. I'm 100 percent certain it was you, but the features I'm thinking of are probably different than what you're focusing on.
So you believed that the entire time you've known me.. I didn't expect that. Well, would you like to hear my list, being completely honest? Well tell me if I'm right, it's because Jasmine Sanders is very light, has light eyes, and this girl because she's White and blonde. Am I close? I'm not sure how you're reading my tone, but I'm calm and cool. If we were face to face, you'd be comfortable. Or maybe you wouldn't, from what I know of you, you seem hot tempered and that you'd probably have done something to me by now.
Of course it's bull to you. It isn't what YOU believe so of course it can't possibly be true. If you ever do find it, let me know.
It doesn't matter what your rankings are or what your preference is. I'm going do exactly what you've been doing. I'm going to ignore everyyyything you have to say and just keeping thinking what I'm thinking. So don't even bother.
I don't like this. :\
I don't care.
Dude, what's your problem? I didn't do this to you. You're just like rejecting me, with you at least I heard you out and take it with a grain of salt.
I don't know why my opinion even matters to you anyways. It isn't like I'm the one who rejected YOU.
I won't write you again after this. I just feel you deserve to know that it didn't erase all the good things about you. And I don't want you to feel judged. I'd just be lying to you if I said I wasn't *emphatically* crushed. I slept 3 hours, can't sleep. A fucking guy who put in 1/100th of the time, effort and soul, but got 100x further than I EVER did in 1/100th the time.
So I just had to let you know it isn't *you.* I just feel too inadequate for you, and I'm just aware that nothing can my view on that now. The proof is there in plain sight.
Harakiri. Best of luck to you and your future endeavors.