Men easily. It is not even a competition. Women do not realize just how difficult it is for the average guy to get a phone number, let alone a date. For every one woman who says yes to him, it was preceded by at least a dozen rejections.
It is the role of both genders to put effort in a relationship and it all depends on the people in the relationship on who puts more effort into it nether men or women as a whole puts more effort then the other as far as other goes there still male or female unless they are born a hermafordi i'm that the only natureal form of another gender
In my honest opinion I think its either because it depends on the person. I feel like "the guy" in relationships sometimes. But my ex husband completely changed after we got married. He stopped trying. And then when our marriage was dead & I wanted out, he started to care... It all boils down to who wants to make it work & who doesn't. If that makes sense.
In a typical relationship between two young and average attractive people, it's probably the guy who has to do more work. But this obviously changes when you change a few variables: Old or unattractive women will have to put a lot more work into getting a relationship than their younger and more attractive counterpart.
it honestly depends on the personality of the two people in the relationship. if a girl liked a boy who was a bit hard to get and once they got them they were kind of on and off, that girl would be putting more effort, and that would be the same if a boy was trying to get a girl but the girl wasn't really putting effort in. so i really can't stereotype a gender because everyone is different : )
In a good, healthy relationship it'll even out. The problems mostly come at the start where men pay for the first date, approach women more often, and it's considered the social norm for it to be women who decide if they date you.
There are some women who split the bill but I've had some very odd conversations with women who think it's a right that men pay for the first few days. It's why I go for coffee or somewhere free now.
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Obviously men. But the girls will chime in "but we have to look good". Ya you need to do at least one thing! It's getting old how women try so hard to convince the world how hard it is for women and how they have it so bad. Yet with the opportunity to be equal, they fail to rise to the challenge.
Women are the " gatekeepers " to everything , so for dating & all the first steps , it is without a doubt , far harder for men , as it's nearly always the woman that does the choosing. Later on when established , both parties need to put in equal effort. This is why I'm separated , my ex put in zero effort & was a negative in nearly every department , now a single dad , so there won't be any dating for me !!
Women just have to weight what they should weight. Men on the other hand have to make six figures, 9 inch dick, 6 pack abs, a house, expensive car, be a doctor, be funny, and basically the top 10% of men. For women, they just have to weight less than 150 pounds here in America because if you at least accomplish being at a healthy weight, that puts women in the 20% of women hot enough to bang because women here in America are disgustingly obese.
My honest Opinion : Men put more effort into dating Women put more effort into (transforming dating to an actual relationship ) For a girl : Its much more easier to get a guy in the first place than keep a guy in the long run For a guy : its much more harder to get a girl in the first place than to keep a girl in the long run
exactly. men are typical. they say we are difficult but they are the ones who run off the moment things get serious. disgusting little creatures ain't they :)
I just think women are more selective cause most and i am saying most not all , want something long term... while a guy is more in the moment kind of thinking and enjoys each day as it comes
you know what the funny thing is cancers excel at everything we do but nobody wants to give us what we want now explain that to me why they don't want to give us what we want
pretty much most of the time i had to approach a guy because he was too busy admiring from a distance and i couldn't be assed waiting. when a guy did approach me it was through friends. both genders are equally as bad/good at things. again, sick of all these gender war-type questions
Anyone somewhat decent looking woman i know has said men approach them somewhat often. You are obviously not as good as you think. you probably see men that are interested in shy when in realty they may all be looking at you in such a way.
@Kuqezi i think you need your eyes testing and go to some kind of attitude schooling, because i was neither bitter nor a bitch. i was saying i approach guys more... and also saying blaming one gender over the other is a stupid thing to do. dumb asshole
@Jamesol1 lol you do realise how fking dumb you all sound right? knowing you feel the need to try put me down over something i said that wasn't even meant to offend... pathetic xD
Bitter: "Men do all the approaching Hahahahahaha" Bitch: "You men are pussies XD" Delusional: "you downvote my comment why? because i am not completely kissing your asses? grow up". Also a moron for saying "again, sick of all these gender war-type questions" lol
@Kuqezi you guys are the fking reason i am a feminist. it's ok for self involved males to slander and insult women to feel better about themselves, but if a female says so much as something different than he wants to hear he goes fking ape shit and harasses her ass. fking double standard cowards. you know men are naturally supposed to be the ones to step up and protect a woman, these days they are all wimps who get butthurt by the simplest thing a woman says. oh please.
petty and immature is an understatement. guys on here seem to think they are fking awesome, gods gift to women and the planet... yet don't seem to realise instead of doing something useful with their lives they would rather harass women and brag about what OTHER men have done to make themselves look better in an argument it's pathetic. i can't believe their mothers gave birth to such embarrassments. yes... guys.. you are better than women.. clearly. better in the fact you are better at being pathetic.
@Jamesol1 typical retarded sexist male. will say his bullcrap of a piece then ignore what anyone else has to say. because they can't stomach the fact they might just be in the wrong.. awwww poor baby awww.
@PlanetOfTheIdiots Please, so just because someone disagrees with your views or beliefs you can insult them and their MOTHERS? Who do you think you are? if you can't handle arguments you should stay in the Kitchen.
@MrDetermined YES lets allow sexist men to get away with their disgusting views. lets give them respect... better yet lets allow them to rape women at will.. why the fk not right?
@MrDetermined i know i didn't.. what is worse is i was sticking up for BOTH genders and yet i get insulted for doing so? maybe i should go feminist it makes more fucking sense to do so. because clearly men don't respect women at all looking at a lot of these posts/comments. it's disgusting
men will never have respect for women at all... men think they are superior and we should do what they say and kiss the ground they walk on. however we see their flaws and they don't like that and so comes the whole power play card.
trust me you will be so happy in the feminist community, we respect other women unlike men *the mistake of society* no man could ever give you what the community can.
@PlanetOfTheIdiots are you fucking delusional cause the community or state in this case is the one's that are is the one's that are screwing everybody over
@Kuqezi you don't seem to realise how stupid you look and sound do you? you are just harassing me because you got butthurt over something you don't want to accept.
i never said that women are the ones that approach men more, i merely laughed at the statement that men always approach when in a lot of cases it's not true. the fact you feel the need to continue insulting me says a LOT about you.
he's 19 what do you expect from a boy who has never got pussy before? he's so angry no girl wants him and he is taking it out on you. i feel sorry for the guy, must have a tiny pecker =)
also i don't need therapy... but a lot of males on here do.
First comment I left: Vast majority of the time men are the ones approaching. Not insult lol You're reply: you men are pussies xD you downvote my comment why? because i am not completely kissing your asses? grow up. This is an insult. You're the one who's butthurt over get thumbs down, quit playing victim. And I don't know what's up with the man hating feminist in here lmao
you know what the state is trying to do their trying to make people from being dependent on them so they can break up a happy home that all of us people that tried to build upon it
@Kuqezi yes you were pussies for down voting... i never said anything out of context.. and then the second guy implied i must be ugly if guys are not approaching me.. i have had no problems attracting or dating who I wanted. you said men are the ones to approach more when i clearly said i hate making things about genders and yet you continue to be antagonistic either way. you say i am playing the victim, yet little do you realise you are... by saying men pretty much get it worse than women. there is always a blaming war going on between genders and yet even when i try coup up in the middle it is always men who put me down... making me think there will never be equality.
@CancerianMan81 he is actually talking about me if you read back. i know what he is trying to do. he is trying to make it out like i am a feminist who blames men and praises women. all i said was that i have approached men more than they have me, so a lot of the statements in this post is untrue... because BOTH genders are equally in the same position. i truly believe it depends on the person.. what is happening in this post is a gender war. (pure open opportunity for men and women to blame each other and put each other down) which i hate... A lot. when calling someone out for not understanding the concept of my post, they all move to insulting me. which just proves my point. there is hardly any sense on this site anymore. i think i am done with it to be honest. it's just gender wars
I don't agree with your opinion so I'm pussy lmao ok... The button is there for a reason. Men do have it harder when comes this topic though so I wasn't personally playing victim, it's true. The olny people that want a "gender war" are feminists since all they do is play victim and want special treatment.
@CancerianMan81 maybe i came across as a gender basher? it's just my personality. i laugh at things that contradict themselves. it wasn't meaning to start this whole stupid controversy. well i am done with this site i think lol
i was hoping for other people to say.. same i hate all these gender-war questions but got the opposite. clearly the wrong place to be if you want equality. it makes you want to become sexist/feminist the amount of ignorance on here lol. ah well take care all those that did stick up for me. appreciate it
@Kuqezi technically you don't even try to understand it from a womans point of view. which is why it is pointless arguing with you. which is why this whole question is pointless. because women will never understand things as a man, and men will never understand things as a women. it's all pointless. trust me. right i'm out.
@Kuqezi what am i doing on here in the first place... well lets see shall we..
i am on a site.. like you. i am responding to posts, like you. so what the fk you doing on here if not for the same reason i am? you can't say shit to defend your presence here, harassment is your tactic. such skill
@Kuqezi seems like the existence of women is the reason why you are a sexist sociopath. it's men like you why feminism exists. keep crying little boy, while i enjoy my "pill" :)
@CancerianMan81 one min you say you are not attacking me, the next you are trying to start shit with me. thanks for proving MY point. and bye Kuqezi fking 19 year old brat.
@CancerianMan81 only because you men want to treat us like shit. we are just doing the same things you are doing and calling it feminism. while you men decide to call it MGTOW. you can't expect a shit storm without the shit.
I'm not the one that's got an attitude with women I just don't care for some of the actions women do there's a difference to that then how you're explaining it
@CancerianMan81 i never called you MGTOW. it was a simple explanation that feminism exists for the same reason MGTOW does. the world is a nasty place... if you are a female or someone with a disability there are always people there to make your life hell. i am ashamed of humanity. but i chose a side... until things change i am sticking with it
and wtf is wrong with lesbians exactly Kuqezi? so not only are you sexist, you are homophobic. ain't you a bundle of joy?
@CancerianMan81 also you are not a bad looking guy. some women just want what they want try not to take it too personally. you will find someone who will love you for you. i think everyone at some point in time gets rejected in someway
@PlanetOfTheIdiots and for once In my life I wish someone can accept me for who I am and not call me a weirdo because I have ADHD and nobody has a right calling us weirdo's
@PlanetOfTheIdiots Nothing wrong with lesbians lol Well you don't like men so you must be the typical lesbian feminist that's angry at men maybe you were rejected by them or daddy issues? You're a typical PC crybaby that thinks women are oppressed in a 1st world country. Lmao check your privilege moron
@Kuqezi so says the idiotic guy who claims he was leaving but can't help but cry some more about how offended he is by lesbians. dude... take your own advice. you are the one harassing someone on their own post that wasn't even that offensive, if at all offensive. hypocrite much?
@CancerianMan81 i'll tell you a secret. i pretend to be sexist to all men to piss them off. i get oddly entertained. but no.. i am mainly with feminists because a lot of men out there are sexist even though they try play it off like they are not. (which is insulting)
oh i am not sexist, but men have it harder waaaaaaaaa (yea that kind of bullcrap) lol
@PlanetOfTheIdiots You can't pretend to be a sexist when feminism is a group of proud sexists. How hypocritical? Also it didn't start the harassing lol
@CancerianMan81 i am a feminist that fights for womens rights AGAINST sexist males who believe we are all the same and don't want to give us any rights or say. feminazis are the crazy ones who get offended by everything and anything. feminists want respect as a gender. respect is earned and also given back in token of earning. i was like the girl who started this post once. i was all for equality. but the more i tried to stick up for both genders Sadly.. the only people i found putting me down was males. i then chose a side. feminism wasn't supposed to be this big thing where men got less options and rights, it was supposed to be about letting women get more rights and more power just like men. however a lot of men didn't like that and went bat shit crazy with MGTOW spreading their crap thus born the feminazi. the pure sexist female. i know this all sounds crazy. but it's quite true all in all i think we all just want to find a level ground but we will always be too competitive
and all these people saying that you have to have high standards but to what expense I mean if you're constantly failing at every turn then you'll never have what you want cause if the end always justifies the means then you are going to have a crappy life
@Kuqezi wow you really don't know anything. shows how ignorant this generation of men are. (not including those who understand or are willing to learn)
feminism did not start of sexist. it was about womens rights and getting more power to do things just like men. back in the day women had no say at all, if we were out of line once we would be punished. pretty much like slaves.
men would laugh at women who wanted to vote, sharing your opinion back then as a woman was offensive to a man. without feminism women wouldn't have as many oppertunities as we do... feminism is not what it is today because of feminazis. who don't really care about rights and making things even... just care about over taking the male species. which i am not for, however i do feel a lot of men today are sexist and it may continue to get worse. i couldn't win in the middle fighting for both sides, so i chose a side.
division on both genders isn't always a good thing too many men like me care to much for you women I would love for you women to have if I was the one giving it to you
@PlanetOfTheIdiots Feminazi isn't a real word, you're all the same. Feminism was needed back then, it's no longer needed in a 1st world country. Real equal rights is needed in 3rd world countries, you guys are as privileged as men here. Feminism is currently in its 3rd wave and olny get worse. What makes you think olny 17% of women in the US consider themselves feminists?(# drops every year) because they know it's a sham. I live in NYC, every feminist here is nuts but it's great to see that they're dying out.
@CancerianMan81 exactly why i am not sexist to all men. because a lot of men care and respect women. even if they get treated like crap by women they know not every girl is the same, and they will find the one they deserve. I am feminist because i hate the amount of sexist males there are, even guys who are not MGTOW you can clearly see are sexist. I get put into all kinds of categories before i became a feminist. for the sake of bad experiences they have had with other females... the rest of us pay for it too. we all get classed as bitches with no heart who have it easy. it's just wrong to assume such things. it's getting worse too... so i chose a side. i don't agree with bashing all men.. but i guess you could say i troll a little to get reactions. a lot of time when doing this men will show their true colours.. those that are not sexist don't lower themselves to insulting women. it's how you find the MGTOWS. they get offended easy
PlanetOfTheIdiots@ BUT women do the same as men in regards to treating all men like shit just because of one bad experience. I am part of MGTOW but i am understanding and open minded. I never lose my temper. so your sexism would not work on me, and you would not get a reaction from me. People are just too stuck to their views these days.
From the start, its the guys. Even on dating sites. Woman tend not to do anything? Except when faced with a relationship, in which woman start doing things.
Honestly, I have never been in a relationship, so I have no real take on that. However, I would have to say at least the dating part, I feel like I made more of an effort because I put myself out there and also paid for the first dates. Did not get a second date out of any of them due to differences in personalities and what we were looking for/
Ahhhh That is a good ass question! I picked B because while women do have to deal with self maintenance and looking good. Which it is a lot of effort but , I love doing it anyway so its not THAT much effort for me personally. If you love it, its fun.
Its not just slapping on makeup its an art form. You need to know how to blend master color transitions with the etc.. You try it! You will see not as easy as you think esp to do it well!! You try it do a full face blended beautifuly with eyes and eyebrows then you tell me its easy...
Approaching is really a difficult task for me i never done so single always. one a girl approached me i would say approaching is done by both sex.. its not always that men always pay. girls who go for self maintenance and make up are looking for center of attraction. men also go for self maintenance and want to have good looks. you cannot tell who puts more effort in general.
but for a particular relationship you could say this.
Great relationships , it's both @100% each. As for traditionally set relationships , it's always both together. Today's weird ass ways, with out reception being from females like normal , men have just said fuck it already... so probably females trying harder now... Only like this in 49 states , Hawaii still unefected by all this gender bs.
Women have got it easy 90% of the time in my opinion. If a girl is half decent all she has to do is wait around doing her own thing and she will be constantly approached by guys. The only catch is sometimes these are the wrong type of confident cocky guys so if she really wants to take control of who she is dating she needs to search out the right sort of guy and maybe give him a hint especially if he is not the overly outgoing type.
Men do not do all the paying. I hate it when my boyfriend pays for things regularly, like it being 50:50 only fair and would hate him to ever think I only stay with him as he pays. Plus I like to treat him to 🙂
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Men for sure. They have to try hard to be a top 20% or born with good genetics to be a high value male desired by women.
Even without make up, if a woman drop her pants, she'll still get sex. Just have the self discipline to not over eat and get fat.
That's the thing though, women don't value sex like men do and don't care about it as much as much as men do. Although love and relationships is what women desire the most but men don't desire relationship like women do because both sexes are wired differently.
Why do you think bachelor men with big supply of women are happy and single. Men can be happy without relationships or commitment as long as a man has lots of women to choose from for sex.
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Men easily. It is not even a competition. Women do not realize just how difficult it is for the average guy to get a phone number, let alone a date. For every one woman who says yes to him, it was preceded by at least a dozen rejections.
It is the role of both genders to put effort in a relationship and it all depends on the people in the relationship on who puts more effort into it nether men or women as a whole puts more effort then the other as far as other goes there still male or female unless they are born a hermafordi i'm that the only natureal form of another gender
In my honest opinion I think its either because it depends on the person. I feel like "the guy" in relationships sometimes. But my ex husband completely changed after we got married. He stopped trying. And then when our marriage was dead & I wanted out, he started to care... It all boils down to who wants to make it work & who doesn't. If that makes sense.
In a typical relationship between two young and average attractive people, it's probably the guy who has to do more work. But this obviously changes when you change a few variables: Old or unattractive women will have to put a lot more work into getting a relationship than their younger and more attractive counterpart.
it honestly depends on the personality of the two people in the relationship. if a girl liked a boy who was a bit hard to get and once they got them they were kind of on and off, that girl would be putting more effort, and that would be the same if a boy was trying to get a girl but the girl wasn't really putting effort in. so i really can't stereotype a gender because everyone is different : )
In a good, healthy relationship it'll even out. The problems mostly come at the start where men pay for the first date, approach women more often, and it's considered the social norm for it to be women who decide if they date you.
There are some women who split the bill but I've had some very odd conversations with women who think it's a right that men pay for the first few days. It's why I go for coffee or somewhere free now.
Obviously men.
But the girls will chime in "but we have to look good". Ya you need to do at least one thing!
It's getting old how women try so hard to convince the world how hard it is for women and how they have it so bad. Yet with the opportunity to be equal, they fail to rise to the challenge.
What they only need to do is open their legs and every men is theirs. Sad but true.
@YellowCactus not every man. Only b grade men.
"Have to look good" for every woman there is at least one desperate guy thinking of taking her to his house.
Ylu mean c - grade men
Women are the " gatekeepers " to everything , so for dating & all the first steps , it is without a doubt , far harder for men , as it's nearly always the woman that does the choosing. Later on when established , both parties need to put in equal effort. This is why I'm separated , my ex put in zero effort & was a negative in nearly every department , now a single dad , so there won't be any dating for me !!
Women just have to weight what they should weight. Men on the other hand have to make six figures, 9 inch dick, 6 pack abs, a house, expensive car, be a doctor, be funny, and basically the top 10% of men. For women, they just have to weight less than 150 pounds here in America because if you at least accomplish being at a healthy weight, that puts women in the 20% of women hot enough to bang because women here in America are disgustingly obese.
lol dude
@Afrochick =) Love you! You're the only person that I know that acknowledges that I speak the truth.
My honest Opinion :
Men put more effort into dating
Women put more effort into (transforming dating to an actual relationship )
For a girl : Its much more easier to get a guy in the first place than keep a guy in the long run
For a guy : its much more harder to get a girl in the first place than to keep a girl in the long run
but women need to change that
I just don't know anymore
exactly. men are typical. they say we are difficult but they are the ones who run off the moment things get serious. disgusting little creatures ain't they :)
@PlanetOfTheIdiots I don't run off though
I just think women are more selective cause most and i am saying most not all , want something long term... while a guy is more in the moment kind of thinking and enjoys each day as it comes
no women don't want to stay committed every girl I've been with has flaked on me
sadly that's one thing women need to get control of
@CancerianMan81 Thats odd i know myself and my friends dont date unless we see a potential future with someone
you know what the funny thing is cancers excel at everything we do but nobody wants to give us what we want now explain that to me why they don't want to give us what we want
men do all the approaching? hahahahahaha
pretty much most of the time i had to approach a guy because he was too busy admiring from a distance and i couldn't be assed waiting. when a guy did approach me it was through friends.
both genders are equally as bad/good at things. again, sick of all these gender war-type questions
Men approach attractive women. Some are too shy. but if you are attractive some men will approach.
Vast majority of the time men are the ones approaching.
Anyone somewhat decent looking woman i know has said men approach them somewhat often. You are obviously not as good as you think. you probably see men that are interested in shy when in realty they may all be looking at you in such a way.
you men are pussies xD you downvote my comment why? because i am not completely kissing your asses? grow up.
Delusional bitter bitches get down voted.
@Kuqezi i think you need your eyes testing and go to some kind of attitude schooling, because i was neither bitter nor a bitch. i was saying i approach guys more... and also saying blaming one gender over the other is a stupid thing to do. dumb asshole
Lol, men approach women they want oftenly... your clearly not attractive if it doesn't happen. Lol face it your ugly and stupid af :DDDD.
@Jamesol1 lol you do realise how fking dumb you all sound right? knowing you feel the need to try put me down over something i said that wasn't even meant to offend... pathetic xD
Bitter: "Men do all the approaching Hahahahahaha"
Bitch: "You men are pussies XD"
Delusional: "you downvote my comment why? because i am not completely kissing your asses? grow up".
Also a moron for saying "again, sick of all these gender war-type questions" lol
@Kuqezi nice going on taking everything out of context sweety. 19 years old and ignorant =D
Nothing logical to say? Typical response calling me "ignorant" lmao
@Kuqezi righttttt because your response to mine is oh so logical xD
@Kuqezi you guys are the fking reason i am a feminist. it's ok for self involved males to slander and insult women to feel better about themselves, but if a female says so much as something different than he wants to hear he goes fking ape shit and harasses her ass. fking double standard cowards. you know men are naturally supposed to be the ones to step up and protect a woman, these days they are all wimps who get butthurt by the simplest thing a woman says. oh please.
Their you go again being delusional lol
@PlanetOfTheIdiots Feminism is cancer, not reading your essay lmao
@PlanetOfTheIdiots that's the thing it was never meant to be offensive. they are just being petty and immature lol
petty and immature is an understatement. guys on here seem to think they are fking awesome, gods gift to women and the planet... yet don't seem to realise instead of doing something useful with their lives they would rather harass women and brag about what OTHER men have done to make themselves look better in an argument it's pathetic. i can't believe their mothers gave birth to such embarrassments. yes... guys.. you are better than women.. clearly. better in the fact you are better at being pathetic.
@PlanetOfTheIdiots Lol im not reading that bs. More cancer. You 2 are uneducated. Please exit life.
@OpinionOwner I agree and it needs to stop
@Jamesol1 i am uneducated because i literally said i approach guys... right. now you are just being an antagonistic idiot.
@Jamesol1 typical retarded sexist male. will say his bullcrap of a piece then ignore what anyone else has to say. because they can't stomach the fact they might just be in the wrong.. awwww poor baby awww.
Lmao this thread is getting funny asf
@PlanetOfTheIdiots you ain't doing yourself any favors by picking him apart
@PlanetOfTheIdiots Please, so just because someone disagrees with your views or beliefs you can insult them and their MOTHERS? Who do you think you are? if you can't handle arguments you should stay in the Kitchen.
by the way, @Asker YOU did NOT post anything wrong, i give you that.
@MrDetermined YES lets allow sexist men to get away with their disgusting views. lets give them respect... better yet lets allow them to rape women at will.. why the fk not right?
bitch make me a sandwich.
@PlanetOfTheIdiots Is every man sexist to pyscho Nazis?
@MrDetermined i know i didn't.. what is worse is i was sticking up for BOTH genders and yet i get insulted for doing so? maybe i should go feminist it makes more fucking sense to do so. because clearly men don't respect women at all looking at a lot of these posts/comments. it's disgusting
@PlanetOfTheIdiots what is with feminists and their rape shit
I think it's not about disrespecting women, but it's just that they have different opinions/views. Both genders need to be respected.
men will never have respect for women at all... men think they are superior and we should do what they say and kiss the ground they walk on. however we see their flaws and they don't like that and so comes the whole power play card.
trust me you will be so happy in the feminist community, we respect other women unlike men *the mistake of society* no man could ever give you what the community can.
Now you're playing victim? Lmao you're the discusting one
@OpinionOwner well I know you was sticking up for both genders
PlanetOfTheIdiots@ You take things WAY too seriously and lack self control. Seriously, see a therapist.
@PlanetOfTheIdiots are you fucking delusional cause the community or state in this case is the one's that are is the one's that are screwing everybody over
@Kuqezi you don't seem to realise how stupid you look and sound do you? you are just harassing me because you got butthurt over something you don't want to accept.
i never said that women are the ones that approach men more, i merely laughed at the statement that men always approach when in a lot of cases it's not true. the fact you feel the need to continue insulting me says a LOT about you.
nothing ever did proper from the state it never did
he's 19 what do you expect from a boy who has never got pussy before? he's so angry no girl wants him and he is taking it out on you. i feel sorry for the guy, must have a tiny pecker =)
also i don't need therapy... but a lot of males on here do.
First comment I left: Vast majority of the time men are the ones approaching.
Not insult lol
You're reply: you men are pussies xD you downvote my comment why? because i am not completely kissing your asses? grow up.
This is an insult.
You're the one who's butthurt over get thumbs down, quit playing victim.
And I don't know what's up with the man hating feminist in here lmao
you know what the state is trying to do their trying to make people from being dependent on them so they can break up a happy home that all of us people that tried to build upon it
@PlanetOfTheIdiots Majority of people already hate feminists. The man hating stereotype is real lol
@PlanetOfTheIdiots I know you're not talking about me cause I didn't do anything to you
@Kuqezi yes you were pussies for down voting... i never said anything out of context.. and then the second guy implied i must be ugly if guys are not approaching me.. i have had no problems attracting or dating who I wanted. you said men are the ones to approach more when i clearly said i hate making things about genders and yet you continue to be antagonistic either way. you say i am playing the victim, yet little do you realise you are... by saying men pretty much get it worse than women. there is always a blaming war going on between genders and yet even when i try coup up in the middle it is always men who put me down... making me think there will never be equality.
he was talking about the other girl being a victim
@CancerianMan81 he is actually talking about me if you read back. i know what he is trying to do. he is trying to make it out like i am a feminist who blames men and praises women. all i said was that i have approached men more than they have me, so a lot of the statements in this post is untrue... because BOTH genders are equally in the same position. i truly believe it depends on the person.. what is happening in this post is a gender war. (pure open opportunity for men and women to blame each other and put each other down) which i hate... A lot. when calling someone out for not understanding the concept of my post, they all move to insulting me. which just proves my point. there is hardly any sense on this site anymore. i think i am done with it to be honest. it's just gender wars
I don't blame ya for not liking it
I don't agree with your opinion so I'm pussy lmao ok... The button is there for a reason.
Men do have it harder when comes this topic though so I wasn't personally playing victim, it's true. The olny people that want a "gender war" are feminists since all they do is play victim and want special treatment.
@CancerianMan81 maybe i came across as a gender basher? it's just my personality. i laugh at things that contradict themselves. it wasn't meaning to start this whole stupid controversy. well i am done with this site i think lol
i was hoping for other people to say.. same i hate all these gender-war questions but got the opposite. clearly the wrong place to be if you want equality. it makes you want to become sexist/feminist the amount of ignorance on here lol. ah well take care all those that did stick up for me. appreciate it
you're welcome
@Kuqezi technically you don't even try to understand it from a womans point of view. which is why it is pointless arguing with you.
which is why this whole question is pointless. because women will never understand things as a man, and men will never understand things as a women. it's all pointless. trust me. right i'm out.
@Kuqezi what am i doing on here in the first place... well lets see shall we..
i am on a site.. like you. i am responding to posts, like you. so what the fk you doing on here if not for the same reason i am? you can't say shit to defend your presence here, harassment is your tactic. such skill
@PlanetOfTheIdiots Whatever drug you're own, I want!
@Kuqezi you clearly need some kind of drug.
@PlanetOfTheIdiots Really I need to know! Is this drug the reason all feminists are sexist psychopaths?
@Kuqezi seems like the existence of women is the reason why you are a sexist sociopath. it's men like you why feminism exists. keep crying little boy, while i enjoy my "pill" :)
@PlanetOfTheIdiots So feminism exist to fight sexists with sexism?
You're delusional if you don't think you're sexist lol
@PlanetOfTheIdiots sure in the hell can't have an emotional connection with women that's for damn sure
@Kuqezi why would we fight sexism with kindness? you can fuck right of
@PlanetOfTheIdiots but yet I hear different
@PlanetOfTheIdiots Thanks for proving point, good day lunatic!
I want him to be sweet on me cause I've been through a lot in my life
@CancerianMan81 one min you say you are not attacking me, the next you are trying to start shit with me. thanks for proving MY point. and bye Kuqezi fking 19 year old brat.
but when it comes down to brass taxes and we are you want to treat us men like shit
no I'm just telling you what I have to put up with every day and i'm not saying that it's you that's doing it
@CancerianMan81 only because you men want to treat us like shit. we are just doing the same things you are doing and calling it feminism. while you men decide to call it MGTOW. you can't expect a shit storm without the shit.
I'm not the one that's got an attitude with women I just don't care for some of the actions women do there's a difference to that then how you're explaining it
@PlanetOfTheIdiots Bye angry sexist lesbian😚
I'm not part of MGTOW thank you I'm my own person
I'm not part of "GROUP'S" because I'm a loner
I can't be part of anybody because I'm an outcast to everybody in this world for the simple reason because I have ADHD
@PlanetOfTheIdiots so nice try calling me a MGTOW
and FYI I'm not here because I am going my own way it's because most not all women have put me here
@CancerianMan81 i never called you MGTOW. it was a simple explanation that feminism exists for the same reason MGTOW does. the world is a nasty place... if you are a female or someone with a disability there are always people there to make your life hell. i am ashamed of humanity. but i chose a side... until things change i am sticking with it
and wtf is wrong with lesbians exactly Kuqezi? so not only are you sexist, you are homophobic. ain't you a bundle of joy?
@CancerianMan81 also you are not a bad looking guy. some women just want what they want try not to take it too personally. you will find someone who will love you for you. i think everyone at some point in time gets rejected in someway
@PlanetOfTheIdiots and for once In my life I wish someone can accept me for who I am and not call me a weirdo because I have ADHD and nobody has a right calling us weirdo's
@PlanetOfTheIdiots Nothing wrong with lesbians lol
Well you don't like men so you must be the typical lesbian feminist that's angry at men maybe you were rejected by them or daddy issues? You're a typical PC crybaby that thinks women are oppressed in a 1st world country. Lmao check your privilege moron
I'm not saying that you are
@Kuqezi so says the idiotic guy who claims he was leaving but can't help but cry some more about how offended he is by lesbians. dude... take your own advice. you are the one harassing someone on their own post that wasn't even that offensive, if at all offensive. hypocrite much?
@PlanetOfTheIdiots umm so you're not being one of those kind of feminists that just go on hating all men
for the way I understand it
@CancerianMan81 i'll tell you a secret. i pretend to be sexist to all men to piss them off. i get oddly entertained. but no.. i am mainly with feminists because a lot of men out there are sexist even though they try play it off like they are not. (which is insulting)
oh i am not sexist, but men have it harder waaaaaaaaa (yea that kind of bullcrap) lol
@PlanetOfTheIdiots well yeah not just to yourself but everyone around you
it's childish to be that way
I totally get where you are coming from
you have to expect for the way women are if you really want to have a relationship with'em expectations isn't really a good thing in a relationship
@PlanetOfTheIdiots You can't pretend to be a sexist when feminism is a group of proud sexists. How hypocritical?
Also it didn't start the harassing lol
@CancerianMan81 i am a feminist that fights for womens rights AGAINST sexist males who believe we are all the same and don't want to give us any rights or say. feminazis are the crazy ones who get offended by everything and anything. feminists want respect as a gender. respect is earned and also given back in token of earning. i was like the girl who started this post once. i was all for equality. but the more i tried to stick up for both genders Sadly.. the only people i found putting me down was males. i then chose a side.
feminism wasn't supposed to be this big thing where men got less options and rights, it was supposed to be about letting women get more rights and more power just like men. however a lot of men didn't like that and went bat shit crazy with MGTOW spreading their crap thus born the feminazi. the pure sexist female. i know this all sounds crazy. but it's quite true all in all i think we all just want to find a level ground but we will always be too competitive
and all these people saying that you have to have high standards but to what expense I mean if you're constantly failing at every turn then you'll never have what you want cause if the end always justifies the means then you are going to have a crappy life
it's the work that you put in that always justifies the means
@Kuqezi wow you really don't know anything. shows how ignorant this generation of men are. (not including those who understand or are willing to learn)
feminism did not start of sexist. it was about womens rights and getting more power to do things just like men. back in the day women had no say at all, if we were out of line once we would be punished. pretty much like slaves.
men would laugh at women who wanted to vote, sharing your opinion back then as a woman was offensive to a man. without feminism women wouldn't have as many oppertunities as we do... feminism is not what it is today because of feminazis. who don't really care about rights and making things even... just care about over taking the male species. which i am not for, however i do feel a lot of men today are sexist and it may continue to get worse. i couldn't win in the middle fighting for both sides, so i chose a side.
but look at it from my point of view
division on both genders isn't always a good thing too many men like me care to much for you women I would love for you women to have if I was the one giving it to you
supply and demand
the government or the state ain't got you're interest at heart cause those 2 things only care for what they want to get out of it
@PlanetOfTheIdiots Feminazi isn't a real word, you're all the same. Feminism was needed back then, it's no longer needed in a 1st world country. Real equal rights is needed in 3rd world countries, you guys are as privileged as men here.
Feminism is currently in its 3rd wave and olny get worse. What makes you think olny 17% of women in the US consider themselves feminists?(# drops every year) because they know it's a sham. I live in NYC, every feminist here is nuts but it's great to see that they're dying out.
@Kuqezi women and men ain't the problem it's the government and the state department
the system is broken you understand
@CancerianMan81 exactly why i am not sexist to all men. because a lot of men care and respect women. even if they get treated like crap by women they know not every girl is the same, and they will find the one they deserve.
I am feminist because i hate the amount of sexist males there are, even guys who are not MGTOW you can clearly see are sexist.
I get put into all kinds of categories before i became a feminist. for the sake of bad experiences they have had with other females... the rest of us pay for it too. we all get classed as bitches with no heart who have it easy.
it's just wrong to assume such things. it's getting worse too... so i chose a side. i don't agree with bashing all men.. but i guess you could say i troll a little to get reactions. a lot of time when doing this men will show their true colours.. those that are not sexist don't lower themselves to insulting women. it's how you find the MGTOWS. they get offended easy
@PlanetOfTheIdiots me I can't help but get offended cause I'm hypersensitive i'm an empath
me I'm set in my ways and there ain't no one that's going to change that
PlanetOfTheIdiots@ BUT women do the same as men in regards to treating all men like shit just because of one bad experience. I am part of MGTOW but i am understanding and open minded. I never lose my temper. so your sexism would not work on me, and you would not get a reaction from me. People are just too stuck to their views these days.
@MrDetermined well that's all we can do
me I understand where she is coming from
and I can tell you right now that's she's genuine
From the start, its the guys. Even on dating sites. Woman tend not to do anything? Except when faced with a relationship, in which woman start doing things.
Honestly, I have never been in a relationship, so I have no real take on that. However, I would have to say at least the dating part, I feel like I made more of an effort because I put myself out there and also paid for the first dates. Did not get a second date out of any of them due to differences in personalities and what we were looking for/
Ahhhh That is a good ass question! I picked B because while women do have to deal with self maintenance and looking good. Which it is a lot of effort but , I love doing it anyway so its not THAT much effort for me personally. If you love it, its fun.
Thats in the beginning
In a long term commitment its deff both#
wow slapping on makeup is so hard lol
Its not just slapping on makeup its an art form. You need to know how to blend master color transitions with the etc..
You try it! You will see not as easy as you think esp to do it well!! You try it do a full face blended beautifuly with eyes and eyebrows then you tell me its easy...
Then dont knock someones art form if you haven't done it or tried it and done it better.
Women bring makeup and sex to a relationship. What would men do without women besides masturbate for eternity.
@Mrwoo99 wow, a lot you put out... how about we get a room?
On a real note: What would you do? Just like myself, enjoy the days I have. Because most woman think like you :) One sided
Men HAVE to take on lots of risk to even get a damn phone number!
I have to give the burden to the risktaker.
Approaching is really a difficult task for me i never done so single always. one a girl approached me i would say approaching is done by both sex.. its not always that men always pay. girls who go for self maintenance and make up are looking for center of attraction.
men also go for self maintenance and want to have good looks. you cannot tell who puts more effort in general.
but for a particular relationship you could say this.
Great relationships , it's both @100% each. As for traditionally set relationships , it's always both together. Today's weird ass ways, with out reception being from females like normal , men have just said fuck it already... so probably females trying harder now... Only like this in 49 states , Hawaii still unefected by all this gender bs.
"men have just said fuck it already"
hahah yep
Women have got it easy 90% of the time in my opinion. If a girl is half decent all she has to do is wait around doing her own thing and she will be constantly approached by guys. The only catch is sometimes these are the wrong type of confident cocky guys so if she really wants to take control of who she is dating she needs to search out the right sort of guy and maybe give him a hint especially if he is not the overly outgoing type.
Men do not do all the paying. I hate it when my boyfriend pays for things regularly, like it being 50:50 only fair and would hate him to ever think I only stay with him as he pays. Plus I like to treat him to 🙂
Men for sure. They have to try hard to be a top 20% or born with good genetics to be a high value male desired by women.
Even without make up, if a woman drop her pants, she'll still get sex. Just have the self discipline to not over eat and get fat.
Any woman can get sex. But takes a lot of effort to have a relationship and to be respected.
That's the thing though, women don't value sex like men do and don't care about it as much as much as men do. Although love and relationships is what women desire the most but men don't desire relationship like women do because both sexes are wired differently.
Why do you think bachelor men with big supply of women are happy and single. Men can be happy without relationships or commitment as long as a man has lots of women to choose from for sex.
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