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Haha, you should only offer to pay when you have no issue with paying, not to test him and then be unhappy when he goes along with it. This is stupid.
@kakarotto... reading your long diatribe against the My Take writer suggests you are the are kind of guy who would expect women to pay for themselves whenever they go out with a man who is not only trying to show how macho he is but is also, frankly, a cheapskate !
Lghten up, it's actually nice to pay for a girl you're dating sometimes ☺
just don't pay the bill again. I've had the best experience when we both pay for our own meals, that way NOBODY OWES ANYBODY (know what I mean?)
Lol. I would be hesitant too. Maybe just because I'm kinda traditional as well. Went on a kinda date kinda not date the other night actually. Last minute he invited his friend (I guess so it wouldn't be weird cuz I just met him the night before along with his friend). He told me he was paying for his friend so I was fine paying for myself because he was already paying for them both. Also I feel bad when people pay for me sooo. But I'm sure he would've payed for me if his friend wasn't there. But it was definitely a date how the rest of the night panned out.
Girls will get mad if we pay because we are so called "babying" them, but if we don't pay we aren't a gentleman. I swear women are confusing.
So.. he called your bluff and you're upset about it? Sounds like the problem is with you not him. Why do you women continue to make mountains out of mole hills? Exhibit 1,234,4569 on why I don't bother any more.
You did ask him.. Soo no, it's all on you😅 unless you want your future communication to be that you say something, and he magically guesses what you really meant instead.
I wouldn't take it as too big of a deal but i'd see what happens at the next date - if you decide to go on another date with him - If he does the same thing with spliting the check and you don't like that then i wouldn't go out with him again. Hope that helps
I would never except an offer for the girl to pay on a first date, I think it breaks etiquette. I do believe in equality across the board for women and men, don't get me wrong, but that doesn't mean you have to do away with all of the old chivalrous acts that define how a man treats a woman!
Humm yea. Be yourself though. Don't try to play modern but you're actually
Traditional. He should know you want your guy to cover all Expenses
P. s. Boys you hear what she said. I expected him To because all My others guys did
Oh the Fake Pay test again
When will women learn that men don't want to play your little games?
If you didn't want to pay, you should let him pay and thanked him, not offered to pay and have him read your mind that you don't want to
I had similar experience first one she offered to pay because i was student had no money spent all my money on am expensive for her she insisted to pay and i said ok then the second girl offered to pay and fought with me lol but i paid and gave her money back she liked it
I guess if he didn't pay anything then he is just stupid
I wouldn't like it. When I like a guy I offer sometimes but they never let me... its sort of a test. After a while it's okay for you to pay for both... It's not about the money, but it says a lot about the guy. At the same time, you do sweet things for him too. I only insist on paying when I don't like the guy..
If you really like him see how the second date goes... Or maybe even tell him. You've got nothing to lose.
thats like saying when i pass by you on the street with my car and i offer you to drop you off at your place and when you say yes! im like: no, i only drop off people i dont like. this was obviously a test, and you failed.
I dont know why women are so damn complicated, always expecting guys to pay for their stuff..
OK, i get that you want to feel spoiled and it's a "real man" thing to pay for you, but WHY test a guy just to see what he is made of?
most of them jerks that break you hears paid for your first date and still you got fucked up by a "real man"..
nothing wrong with splitting the god damn check.
So the guy pays for the dinner, which both enjoyed, hopefully gets a 2nd date and its up to the girl to decide that, fuck around and maybe gets a kiss, which both will enjoy, and MAYBE some sex which both will still enjoy... and yet still gets judged if he decides to split the check,.. women take everything and got to power to judge every man they go out with...
smh
and yea, some bitch dumped me because I didn't have much cash to pay her and her god damn friend for food one night, because women only know how to split their legs and judge men
Did you two at least get along? I don't get it. You shouldn't have offered to pay half if you were going to hold it against him.
Maybe give it one more date and go from there. He'll probably pay the second time around.
God damn, then why did you fucking offer? Why can't women just be straight forward, just quit with the games and be direct. There's always some ridiculous "test"
You offered to pay, end of story, nothing to see here. He literally only agreed BECAUSE you offered, probably didn't even think about it. You cannot be weirded out by this, sorry.
"I know I'm probably going to get some criticism for this question" ... because you're being ridiculous and part of you knows that?
if she wants to split the bill, let her split the bill, whats the big deal? lol, like at least not dating a girl thats just gonna be a leech, and if a girl is willing to split the bill I view her as more mature, but that's just me
As a guy, I don't like the fact that there's an expectation for us to pay for everything. But if we do not, we look like an asshole so most of us end up paying regardless, but if we really like you and think there's hope, we won't care how much it costs
If it's such a problem for you then why the fuck offer to go half?
You know, those situations are difficult for both... there is no fixed rule for who pays on the first date :o
So if you like him, don't hesitate, say yes... who cares about who'll pay the drinks when you have a sweetheart on your side? :D
If it bothers you so much, why would you even offer in the first place? -__-
Instead of offering to split the bill, maybe you could offer to pay for him too. Splitting is like saying "I'll pay for my own stuff." It's not like you actually paid for HIM. So it was equal like friends, but wasn't like you did him a favor or anything.
The way I feel on a date, as a guy, I wish that bill would just come to me and there wouldn't even be that weird moment. It is just an issue, if a girl wants to pay, I think she is just interested in being friends
TBH it is the way it is. when I see no future I demand I pay for myself because in my circle of friends, it's like a sign that she kind of doesn't want you to be her caretaker? don't know if it makes sense.
@springbreaker. I don't look that far into a dinner bill as some symbolic measure of how our potential relationship may or may not be. Just because I take out a girl and pay for dinner doesn't mean I'm saying "I want to take care of you financially, it's just a dinner bill
I would of paid for the date just the type of guy i am sorry i have old fashion values. The guy was way in the wrong. I see his red flags.
Sorry i didn't read much of this , it was nice he offered to pay but if he is a real man and your mature young lady , you should accept things for how they turned out. Why not ask him before the date if wanted to go dutch?
As a man I can tell you give him sometime and go out several times with him, but keep observing to find out if he is a stingy person or not.. just keep an eye on that, because it isn't easy for everyone to spend time with stingy people.
On the other hand It might be the way he is and not mean anything !
(shaking my head)
This is the problem with women nowadays...
most women... sweety.
@SugarMeSweet Ha, your right. Can't throw you all under the bus... ;)
I have no problems when a girl is offering to also pay. It means, to me that she is willing to contribute in dates or in potential relationships. It means she's reliable. And thats a great thing!.
I mean, I'm the kind of guy who almost insists on paying for the first date, but I think it's kind of silly that you're hesitating to see the guy again if you had a good time.
all you had to do was say, "great, you can get the next one"~ basically you've secured yourself a second date lol.
Girl I understand what you mean. Hey! Stop criticizing the young lady. Next time just dont offer to pay unless you want to ok? Then you won't have this long debate in your mind.
I know I had a guy treating me all the time and I cooked for him and I also started to treat him and then it was like he stopped offering to pay. I say don't pay for him just reciprocate by cooking.
Don't worry. I'm sure he was a bit suprised you offered, but in my opinion, nothing wrong with the woman paying. Just as long as it is not all the time. Go out with him and again and ask about if you should split the bill.
i feel the same :( whenever i offer to treat my boyfriend (movies and dates) he'll always let me. and he seldom treats me to stuff. sometimes we split. I don't know if im too sensitive but yeah, it gets to me too.
What the fuck is wrong with women just wanting everything handed to them?
@blabli nah i dont want everything handed to me. it's just that these days all we've been hearing is "a guy should be a gentleman and treat his girl sometimes". even my dad tells me that. i dont think there's a right or wrong perception but maybe you should just chill with the "women" thing because that's cynical af.
click the 3 dots beside the message icon, and click close. dont worry about people calling you an idiot, just LIVE YOUR LIFE and dont change yourself. :)
I wouldn't really feel weird. I'd rather we split it anyway.
You can choose MHO to close it.
It's fine. If you pay, you pay. If not, it's not a big deal. Considering y'all met online and set it up specifically as a date and are going on a 2nd 1, it's safe to assume he doesn't care. People over complicate this wayyyyyyyy too much
If you didn't want to pay, you shouldn't have offered. You already said he was willing to pay for both of you. This one's all on you
if you don't want to pay, then don't offer. Sure if he says "yes" there could be lots of reasons why- it doesn't mean he's a jerk or cheap a**. You're the one making the offer, then looking at him as if he's being rude? You're an idiot... next time, don't effing offer to pay, just let them pay.
A guy might think you 'want' to pay or they may just say ok. If you throw a 20.00 bill onto the tab, is he going to push it away? Don't do it next time, it's your fault not his
Feminist want gender quality.. well... there you go. Well done OP.
Gender quality? You mean gender equality?
Don't let your mouth write a cheque that your body doesn't want to cash.
My guy said "no worry about money, order what u want, i ll pay" in the begining... That was true man's action, though i still ordered a small salad and a drink...
And ur guy is just... one of those types who want women pay 4 them and think its normal and all world ov them
She offered to pay for her meal. That means that he was willing to pay for the whole meal she offered to split it he said sure, then she got upset. She didn't pay for him in any way and he was going to pay for her before she intervened. So no he is not one of "those" guys, she is just a hypocrite. But I do find it interesting that you talk about men wanting a woman to pay for them as bad but when women do it its suddenly perfectly fine? Same behavior the only difference is gender yet when men do it its bad and when women do it its good? Seems really hypocritical.
@hellionthesage
Fuck read what i wrote, my guy said no worry bout money in the begining, not even waiting 4 check.
Stay with ur opinion, to the types like u, everyone is blamed and everyone ov u somthing... Thats a looser theory
Real males r not like that
Clearly you didn't read at all I pointed out he was trying to pay for her she then stopped him and asked to pay for her half of the meal. SO clearly he did not want her to pay for him because she didn't pay for him. Read the question then read the comment its not difficult.
I do online dating and I always pay for the first date, even if I know I am not going to see her again.
If I were you, I would have mixed feelings, too. Does this mean you are going to be expected to split every date? Should you just not offer to pay again? Is he going to be upset if you don't offer to split it again? I see your points.
Have you tried... not lying? If you're going to offer, then you shouldn't be dumbfounded when someone takes you up on that offer. We call that logic. Get some.
I'm not sure what kind of mind game / chivalry test this is, but please stop playing it. If you like the guy just go out with him. Stop over engineering the wheel and roll with it.
I'd totally have paid. But that's me. I refuse to let a woman pay. I'm doing the chasing. It's up to me to pay.
I'd feel a bit weird about that too. Espesh if he is also working full time. Next time just tell him its his turn to pay xD
i guess you wanted to offer to pay then him to say 'oh no i got it'... i believe in splitting the bill.. you pay for what you ate, he pays for what he ate.. in my opinion, that is easily the most fair way to go
the guy always pays... I know what you think he may be a gold digger but a good test is to let him pick the restaurant and then see if he pays (provided its a good meal). If he pays you're clear, if not you need to watch your caution panel.
LOL @ "caution panel"
Well yeah sure but you can't blame a guy if the bitch offered... I mean if she didn't want to pay for shit then it was a fuckin' empty offer why do it in the first place? I'm glad he called her bluff. i just can't stand people who pretend to be something but then get offend when you call their bluff.
@3Didnt7say - woahhhhh, lighten up !!
if you offer to split the bill then you can expect him to agree with you you know.
But that's where it gets confusing. Guys say they'd like us to at least offer to pay our half, even if they refuse to accept, but then there's the few lines yourself who think that if we offer, then we should expect to follow through. We can't win.
@helpmealitttle not all guys think the same! what do you mean winning? you want to offer to pay but you dont really want to pay?
@helpmealitttle if you offer, you should be prepared for us to accept that offer. It's not a game we're playing, I don't see what is confusing because it's very straightforward. You offer to pay, the guy will either accept your offer or refuse the gesture. Where's the complication? If you're not a decent and generous person, don't pretend to be.
Well that was nice of you offer but he should of paid if he asked you out. One time I went on a first date and the guy got all upset because i didn't pay. Im like your the one who asked me out you should pay. Sorry then i dumped his ass.
That's pretty easy for you to say, isn't it? When was the last time you asked a guy out? Probably never, because you don't have to. That seems incredibly disingenuous.
@Kirah What is your issue here?
Your issue, is that you proclaim "whoever asks the other one out, has to pay". As if that's 100% fair. But that isn't fair, because women almost never ask out men. So the man still ends up paying 90% of the time. Still sexist.
@Kirah Well that doesn't mean you can get on here and bash eveyone's opioion just because YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THERE ISSUE! In fact I've asked lots of guys out and they still pay. SO WHATS YOUR ISSUE NOW!
You offered to pay. You're being ridiculous by expecting him to decline your offer.
Id rather pay for my half tbh cause i wouldn't want to owe the guy anything... if the guy were to pay id feel like id owe something... and if it doesn't work out it would make me feel like i used him so its best to pay for your own thing
yeah, you should get outrage YOU OFFERED TO SPLIT IT and then when were turned off when he said yes. You are a real life stereotype
It's not a big deal, honestly. You offered to pay for half of the bill, he accepted. There's nothing to it in my opinion.
Damn everyone's so fucking rude. I totally get what you're saying though. It's 2016 though, I guess things have changed.
I'm afraid things "did not change" after all. :/
If your being treated to a date why should you have to pay 👿 swea the world doesn't got any more good morals left in it
quote millionaire matchmaker patty stranger: if he asks: he plans the date, so he pays. and no sex before manogamy
If you offered why is it a problem? It seems like he was going to pay for everything until you offered.
What were you honestly expecting to happen? Honestly. Like when you offered to split it in half, thereby saving him 50% of the cost, what did you expect his reaction to be?
He accepted your offer maybe becos he respect your opinion. Or maybe becos he has few dating experience.
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