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in any case. if someone puts down their card, I'm not splitting it. I'll just treat them next time or maybe the next event of the night. Its a hassle for everyone on a busy night to split.
The death of every mature "good guy" in a relationship... teenage mind games.
He could have testing you. But you shouldn't offer if you really didn't want to follow through... I'd go out again to see if he wants to split all the time or if that was one time thing
It's sweet that you offered to pay... he shouldn't have accepted though.
Why not? Is it offensive to a guy for a girl to pay for her own food? I'm not comfortable letting people I don't really know pay for me. In this case, I'd have been insisting that I pay for myself & offended if he didn't let me. He also wouldn't have gotten a second date with me if he didn't let me pay for myself.
@sep780 It's offensive that a "man" would allow her to pay, yes. And a woman would not have the pleasure of a second date with me if she insisted to pay. Or if she bitched and moaned about me opening doors for her or pulling out her chair. Want to be a feminazi? Fine. Find a dbag who's willing to not do anything for you,
I'm not trying to be a feminazi or find a guy that won't do anything for me. Why can't a girl pay her fair share? It's not the 50s anymore. Why is asking a guy to respect my feelings disrespectful? I thought healthy relationships needed respect on both sides & the ability to compromise. I'll admit, I've never had a healthy relationship with my parents or siblings. Hell, my sister enforces the idea that one person has to be dominate over the other person in the relationship. May be why I prefer the company of my 19 year old cousins. Neither of us is dominant. Yeah, I give them advice, but I don't tell them how to run their lives or what to think.
I don't think your name of "probably too mature" is accurate. You are not too mature for your age.
I want a guy that will do some things for me, but also allow me to do some things for him. Things like opening doors, don't do that for me with every door. I'm capable & smart enough to do it for myself. If you happen to get there first, fine. If I get there first, let me hold the door for you.
Once I get to know a person, I'm OK with them paying for me. The right guy for me will also let me pay for him at times though, too. Basically, finding a way where neither one feels like they are being taken advantage of, or like they are taking advantage of the other person.
whatever works for you is OK. There is no absolute right or wrong.
So did you invite him out or did he invite you out?
Whoever did the inviting should pay
Well yeah sure but you can't blame a guy if the bitch offered... I mean if she didn't want to pay for shit then it was a fuckin' empty offer why do it in the first place? I'm glad he called her bluff.
... If you didn't want to split the bill why did you offer?
Most guys only wave the offer because they expect the girl to be playing games or expecting her to be weird about it or whatever.
You're being weird. You should just try get over it.
You're being too traditional, if you don't feel comfortable paying then don't offer, easy as that...
Tbh most guys wouldn't do that, girls just like to be polite and offer. Hardly guys hardly ever accept.
If I ask you out, I pay. That's how I think it should be.
Well yeah sure but you can't blame a guy if the bitch offered... I mean if she didn't want to pay for shit then it was a fuckin' empty offer why do it in the first place? I'm glad he called her bluff.
Guys are obligated to pay. It doesn't make them any less 'manly'. You ate too. The whole guys should pay thing is outdated
That sucks XD I usually say lets split the bill o. o or try to do little things to pay him back
If you didn't want pay or you wanted him to follow "tradition" why bother asking
A similar experinece happened to me. I know the way you feel. His behavior is not gentle at all!
You're an idiot. You offered to pay and he took you up. You did this just for a test and you should be ashamed.
Do you enjoy his company?
Yes - go
No - don't go
Yes you're being traditionally stupid. Do yourself a favor and break the tradition.
No don't go out with him again.
He deserves someone who isn't a cheap ass like you.
Why is that guy in the background just staring at the back of the dudes head...
Since you offered to split, that's on you. Chances are if he didn't protest at all he may be right on money.
If you don't like the fact that he accepted your offer to pay then don't offer. Why would you offer if you wanted him to pay?
I would never do this as a man. So I'm not sure. Go out with him again but if he gives any signs of having been feminized by modern influences... get outta there!
I wouldn't feel weird being that I would've been the one offering to pay in the first place... probably should have never spoken up, if you didn't want to pay
chill there is nothing bad about that! even my boyfriend does that! not always but yes!
Don't offer if you don't mean to pay. It's that simple
I prefer to split or pay for your own - I think paying for her is archaic and redundant
Nothing is wrong with that. Maybe next time you could take turns.
It doesn't matter what other girls what feel, it matters how you feel. First dates are important if it wasn't what you wanted move along until you find what is.
your not an idiot! Sorry I have no clue how to close a question though.
he might've been confused for a second.. and he put his card out to pay.. so he's not a cheapstake.. you're overreacting
If he had asked you to split id say RUN but if you offered then he may have just gone with it because that's what he thought you wanted
I've always wanted to do this. Just once to see how it would play out. I'm a curious guy.
Ummm well it's one thing if you had to pay for his meal... but splitting it shouldn't be a big deal at all. not sure why you're making it such.
@update choose a best answer and you can close it then
No you're not wrong you offered to pay and if he said yes and you are ok with that then there's no problem just like one day he can say "don't worry it's on me this time"
It's not weird.
Especially on the first date. Things are a lot different now, and it's really not a big deal to pay for your own food sometimes or even his too.
Don't make offers you don't care to honor.
I wouldn't. He's not a genteman. Or he's a feminist
Men should always pay for 100% of all dates for the woman and the man.
Sexist.
100%? No wiggle room on that backdated mentality?
it is what it is. women will not pay for me. i won't allow it
Well yeah sure but you can't blame a guy if the bitch offered... I mean if she didn't want to pay for shit then it was a fuckin' empty offer why do it in the first place? I'm glad he called her bluff.
@larry69 I'm OK with you not allowing a woman to pay for you. Please have enough respect to allow the woman to pay for herself. Some women (like me) don't want guys they don't know well to pay their way & would rather go dutch. Respect goes both ways here.
soooo you always cover ur dates? are you like... made of gold or something?
So what's the actual question here? First you ask the question then you say "relax people." Just let it go. Damn
Sounds good to m, e why do women think everything is now free for them because they have a boyfriend or a husband?
No need to feel awkward honey. He wasn't man enough to pay for the dinner and you stood up to be am independent woman. Trust me, he should be the one feeling NAD that you paid.
wouldn't it make a women less independent if she always had her dates paying for her meals?
@vnon123 Exactly.
Independent women pay their own meals. Re-think your comment.
No, just no.
Lol u offer to split then u're surprised he agreed?
Just my thoughts!!!
Since he accepted the offer. Just go with the flow. Best of luck on your first date! :D
Maybe he's not experienced enough so he didn't know what to do or something. I think you shouldn't decline a second date for that reason.
lol... bluff called... maybe you should have just been honest?
It would bother me personally, because while I'm not a gold-digger, I appreciate and want a guy that is willing to fulfill that more traditional role of a man.
don''t do that a lot of guys won't get that if you want him to pay than don't offer to pay after he already agrees to.
Ikr finally someone who gets what I've been tryna say
On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you measure this in terms of importance compared to the rest of the date? I'd personally give it a zero.
And your point is? You asked to pay so pay. I think he is smart and not making a big deal of it. And basically what @nog642 said.
kinda confused about the extra info about him ordering something more expensive. did you pay for both of you?
way to create a problem where one doesn't exist.
He probably didn't want to offend you from somehow sounding like you couldn't pay.
I would go out with him again. You should also look at you paying he can hold anything over you. Lol
I think that in this day in age we have the mentality that the man pays for the first date, but if you want to pay then that's your own opinion. But I do think that it might be weird.
Up to you. Me personally I would still take the bill.
He would probably be feminized by friends if he told them lol, probably a bit awkward
If he asks you out, he pays. Probably, because he doesn't want to hurt your pride (feminism), he lets you split the pay
I think that if he's the one that asked you out he should be the one to pay. The responsibility lies with the person doing the inviting.
Gold digger dump him. Never a real man will accept this offer especially on a first date
Only gold digger I see is you and every other girl who sees a problem here.
@Dark_Scorpio Hm?
What he means is that the gold digger isn't the one who offered to pay, the gold digger is the one who scoffs at the idea of paying. You.
@tyber1 I really don't understand what you mean but I know that nowadays if you don't pay on the first date then you'd never have a good girlfriend.
I had a good girlfriend and she insisted on paying.
I don't see what us hard to understand about that. The gold digger is always the one who opts to spend someone else's money. That's usually the woman.
"I know that nowadays if you don't pay on the first date then you'd never have a good girlfriend." That's some really terrible logic there. If a girl doesn't want to date me because I don't spend money on her then she's wouldn't make a good girlfriend at all and second isn't worth my time.
@Dark_Scorpio I'm so happy to not be born in america, my guy friends who go here was so shocking about how man loves their money and I have to say he's right. American guys are tightfisted. It's a fact. In my country guys would always pay for everything and would never let a women pay. They have some pride...
We do have pride, that is why we don't allow ourselves to be used for our money. It is the men in your country that don't have pride, they do what is expected of them instead of what is fair and right. They're pushovers who pretend they are gentlemen. There is no logical reason for the guy to be expected to pay. Tradition is a poor excuse, it enables all sorts of outdated and destructive practices to outlast their usefulness. Tradition is the cowardly man's way of saying that it has always been done this way and I couldn't stand the ridicule that would result from trying to change it.
If you look to American history, you will see that it is only the brave who stand against tradition in an effort to make a better world. Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, they lived in a world where tradition meant that they could not live the lives they deserved and they stood against tradition, risking the lives of themselves and their families to make the world a better place.
People who cling to archaic traditions are either the benefactors of those traditions, cowards or lacking in critical thinking.
We Americans are proud of our heritage because it is filled with heroes big and small who decided that things could be better and wouldn't allow themselves to be walked over. From what you write, I would wager that your nation does not have many heroes in its history.
@tyber1 Heroes... Right because now killing people are being a "heroes" I didn't know that... American only made other become obese with their industrial food.
Those are entirely different issues. Not even remotely related.
@tyber1 It's still true. You can't deny it
I don't deny that America has issues. Our government is out of control. The fast food thing, completely our fault. This is all because the past few generations of Americans forgot what it meant to be an American. They gave up their freedoms and lived lavish lifestyles that they couldn't sustain, and laid the bill at our feet. They've become the very cowards I condemn. The only way to fix it is to forget about how things are expected to be and work towards how things should be.
He feels you are his 2nd half just as good as him so he doesn't mind your offer to pay plus he is saving money.
Haha society is changing.
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