But I would also suggest on the very first date (as a procedure of filtering out the entitled brats and getting to know the real person) to split the bill. If she freaks out, then I know it's time to run and make better use of the remaining time.
All in all I wouldn't mind much. It's just, that I am still broke (but recently I started working, so yay!)
No I don't mind. I insisted to pay on the dates I've been so far. But that had less to do with me being chivalrous and more to do with me feeling that there was social pressure on me to pay.
I wouldn't have expected that her attractiveness would affect your (= specifically your, not guys more generally) willingness to drop coin on her.
I mean... If enough guys have that outlook, then, ironically, it justifies the OP's strategy perfectly -- because by expecting the guy to foot the bill, she's guaranteeing that she gets guys who find her attractive enough to "break their usual rules" for her.
With that in mind, it might be illustrative to ask a slightly modified question... "Guys, how do you feel about paying for dates **with a woman who's exceptionally attractive/desirable to you**?"
"Interesting" ^^ because I guess I never considered that distinction explicitly.
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I still think it's stupid to even *go* on first/second dates that actually cost money -- ESPECIALLY to restaurants.
I mean... Restaurant dates just never made sense to me. Awkward af (and expensive!) if the two people are less than stellar conversationalists... Hardly dynamic environments (so, in other words, unlikely to be full of conversation starters)... ... and, in a best case scenario (= you want to head home and get it on)... yr stomach is way too uncomfortably full to facilitate that.
Basically all negatives, from my point of view. people need to start thinking outside the box ahah.
I agree about restaurants being an awkward first date, but my issue with the expectation to to pay is more on principle than it is with the specific dollar ammount.
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If I asked the girl out, I pay.
If she asked me out, she pays.
But I would also suggest on the very first date (as a procedure of filtering out the entitled brats and getting to know the real person) to split the bill. If she freaks out, then I know it's time to run and make better use of the remaining time.
All in all I wouldn't mind much. It's just, that I am still broke (but recently I started working, so yay!)
I think splitting the bill is ok :) If he asked to take me out, I'd still bring money and offer to split but if he persisted, I'd let him pay.
yet to go on a date bt i won't mind to pay d bill
I'm an old fashioned guy, so I would expect to pay.
That's great. :) I thought most guys on here were against the idea and these results are surprising.
Yes, it is actually suprising.
If a guy is asking a girl on a date, he's asking her to be his guest. You don't ask a guest to pay.
If he absolutely insists, he can pay, but otherwise, we're splitting it, end of story.
I'm so old fashioned here. I think the guy should pay unless the girl was the one to ask for the date.
I preferring splitting the bill until I know her well enough.
For me to spend money on someone is a sign that I hold this person in high regard.
I'd feel like a straight up bitch if I didn't pay, tbh😅 But maybe that's the old man in me, haha.
if its ice cream, movies or some cheap meal then yes, iam not going broke for a first or second date with a girl iam not even sure i like a lot.
I ask women out on dates, that means I should pay the bill.
If we're going to split the bill on the first date we might as well split the child support and alimony...
i don´t "mind" it but i kind of expect her to want to split it. i´m looking for a partner. not for a pet that i have to feed.
The only way I'm offering to pay the first bill is if I ask him out. I'm not paying until the second or third.
I'll pay half on the first date if hr asks me out but not the whole thing.
I always step up and pay. I guess I'm just a little old school that way.
No snark, no games. Simple as that.
No I don't mind. I insisted to pay on the dates I've been so far. But that had less to do with me being chivalrous and more to do with me feeling that there was social pressure on me to pay.
Depends on the girl, but generally I would prefer to split.
What are the exceptions?
@redeyemindtricks
If I think she has actually been consistent with holding that expectation and also how attractive she is.
Interesting, thanks
@redeyemindtricks
why is that interesting?
I wouldn't have expected that her attractiveness would affect your (= specifically your, not guys more generally) willingness to drop coin on her.
I mean... If enough guys have that outlook, then, ironically, it justifies the OP's strategy perfectly -- because by expecting the guy to foot the bill, she's guaranteeing that she gets guys who find her attractive enough to "break their usual rules" for her.
@redeyemindtricks
hmm, that is a good point. 🤔
With that in mind, it might be illustrative to ask a slightly modified question... "Guys, how do you feel about paying for dates **with a woman who's exceptionally attractive/desirable to you**?"
"Interesting" ^^ because I guess I never considered that distinction explicitly.
__
I still think it's stupid to even *go* on first/second dates that actually cost money -- ESPECIALLY to restaurants.
I mean... Restaurant dates just never made sense to me. Awkward af (and expensive!) if the two people are less than stellar conversationalists...
Hardly dynamic environments (so, in other words, unlikely to be full of conversation starters)...
... and, in a best case scenario (= you want to head home and get it on)... yr stomach is way too uncomfortably full to facilitate that.
Basically all negatives, from my point of view. people need to start thinking outside the box ahah.
@redeyemindtricks
You should post that question..
I agree about restaurants being an awkward first date, but my issue with the expectation to to pay is more on principle than it is with the specific dollar ammount.
Ahah yeah mb I'll post that. Prl sometime next week (I have too much going on today to get sidetracked with a ton of responses).
I would only pay the bill IF we the date was successful and we agreed her to pay the next. Its not about money, but respect and behaviour.
As long as she doesn't think I'm a disposable ATM machine.
Lmao 😂
@JoyGirl seriously, a lot of girls like to do this.
So you don't mind, just as long as she doesn't act entitled to your wallet? :)
Correct.
I haven't had to make that decision yet, haha
Benefits of being single: more cash in pocket
No not in the slightest. I think guys should pay for dates.