Who pays for the first date, the man or the woman?

[Anonymous]

[herguy]

I would always pay, personally. But that's not what I believe 'should' be done. I believe in equality both ways. But I am a hypocrite when it comes to chivalry - I would always want to do the old-fashioned gentlemanly thing.

My girl has always said - which makes perfect sense - that it should be paid by whoever asks the other on a date, because you can't invite someone to something then expect them to pay for it. Makes sense! But I'd still want to pay either way lol.

[Tyme1313]

You realize that chivalry is a code of conduct for medieval combat between knights, right? The concept got extremely twisted in the 20’s. Chivalry has actually never applied to women at all.

Also, I always split the bill. I can certainly ask someone to hang out with me or go on a date and expect them to pay their part. If they have a problem with it, I just dropped a gold digger. 🤗

[BeMuse]

@Tyme1313 You’re mentally retarded. Anything that is movable is “personal property” by legal definition. Go hang yourself moron.

[Tyme1313]

@BeMuse

Okay, not sure where you came from. However, I have 3 degrees, in a law student working on a Juris Doctorate, and have an IQ of 162. So I’m a genius by every measurable concept.

No, this is the legal definition of personal property.

“ Personal property can be divided into two major categories: (1) corporeal personal property, including such items as animals, merchandise, and jewelry; and (2) incorporeal personal property, comprised of such rights as stocks, bonds, Patents, and copyrights.”

You are clearly a mentally inferior thing, please end your life as not to waste our precious oxygen.

[Logorithim]

I have always paid for the first date, but would be fine if she wanted to split or pay for herself- I just prefer that she tells me in advance.

It really doesn't matter who pays though- should be what they're both comfortable with.

[owntheworld]

If women wants to lay the foundation for a good relationship she should pay 50%. She should treat it as an investment. Guys need to be treated with respect and their budgets should not go haywire as they have to pay most of the time. Give them a chance to be equals in terms of what they have to pay.

[konfused-kreature]

I think that going Dutch on a first date is a good idea. That way, nobody feels like they may be overpaying for somebody else.

[Asker]

Dutch?

[konfused-kreature]

Oh, it's slang for saying you each pay for what you got.

[Asker]

Oh I see
Slang lol where r u from
So I understand where your slang comes from

[konfused-kreature]

I'm from North Carolina, but i know the slang from my family in Europe.

[Asker]

I’m from down under

[konfused-kreature]

Australia? That's awesome

[Asker]

Yep do u know slang from here

[konfused-kreature]

Only a few terms, it's been forever since I've looked into slang from there

[Asker]

Dunny
Tuckerbox
Fiddy dollars

[Asker]

Making a blue
Means u fucked up

[konfused-kreature]

Isn't dunny a toilet
And a tuckerbox for food storage. And I'm assuming fiddly dollars is just fifty dollars

[Asker]

Yep wanna learn more
This is fun

[Asker]

#Crack a fat
#Dag
#Dill
#Flat out like a lizard drinking
#franger
#spunk
#whacka
#sheepshagger

[Asker]

Sheepshagger is my fav

[splashofyellow]

Everyone pays for their own shit. Both should invest in the date.

[witherwing]

ALWAYS split the bill, or better yet, do something free.

[XRabbitHeartX]

I always offer to pay but on all my first dates the guy would end up paying. Like my boyfriend said he just feels good paying for a first date. Now that we together we split the bill mostly.

[Asker]

I am the same actually

[Apope16]

EVERYTHING SHOULD BE SPLIT. Each pay for themselves!

[TwinCKI]

Whoever ask the other person out on the date should be the one to pay for the bill. However, at least for me personally, I always like to pay for the first date. To me, paying for the first date is showing that I am willing to invest time and money into them if a relationship were to come out of the date.

[Fitness-Fanatic]

I prefer to pay for our own share of the bill. That way neither of us will feel obligated to see each other again if the date doesn't go too well. If one person pays , and they don't see each other again , the one paying will probably feel used and taken advantage of.

Some people date multiple people. A guy I know, dates a different girl every night lol One person couldn't possible pay for two people on each and every first date lol

[nojokecarmichael]

I feel like the guy should pay for the first date. I also used to think they should pay for others too, but maybe for the others, who ever does the inviting pays. Another idea would be for example the movies, one pays for the tickets the other buys snacks.

[letmeknow101]

I know this might sound bad to some but if its the first date and the guy asked you out they should pay. if it turns into a second date I would consider paying. And if it turns into a relationship pay for dates every other time or whenever you can and they can't. That's how I do it.

[passinby]

Okay why tf is this so important? I really don't get it. At any other time I buy a woman a drink, or lunch, or hold the door, or etc. I am a sexist creep. But this one time introductory offer, this time only, I am allowed to pay and also expected to pay and I am granted a waiver this one time of not being a sexist creep. I really don't understand this stupidity that I continuously hear about. How about you explain it and help me understand.

[PlacentaSalad]

I won't continue dating a girl if she doesn't pay for at least one of the three very first dates. She isn't that special that I'm going to miss her company if she proves to be a cheapskate that follows what is now considered archaic beliefs where men are obligated to doing this and that while she is free to do whatever she wants.

[JackD1984]

The rule I usually go by is "the person who made the invite pays". That goes for all social gatherings not just dates.

[SirRexington]

Both. Its the first date, a trial period. If the guy pays for it all then the girl can just get free food and bail afterwards. Which happens... All the time.

But if both have to put money into it, then it's an investment both have agreed to. This incentivises both to feel equal and not obligated to see one another again if it doesn't work out. Only if one of the two individuals goes out of their way to suggest paying the entire bill should it be expected.

[Tech5]

Why not split it? Makes it more comfortable for everyone, and noone has to feel like they owe the other person anything

[genericname85]

each for their own. we live in an equal society and if you don't wanna establish inequality from the get go, you better pay for yourself... i mean unless you're looking for that guy who sends you to the kitchen to make him a sandwich, in that case let him pay.

[babylips14]

Guys want equality only when it's convenient for them such as paying for a date. Other times such as when it comes to equal pay, applying fair standards to women, treating women with respect, etc. they don't want it. Cheap fucks.

[genericname85]

@babylips14 we're applying fair standards, equal tratment and equal pay since decades and you unthankfull fucks still insit on having the inequalities that were in your favor to begin with :P that's another way of seeing it ;)

[genericname85]

but of course "equality" means more rights for women and has nothing to do with men. how dare i bring men up. who needs those anyway right? ^^

[babylips14]

I'm just being honest. That's the way it is. Most guys pushing for this "equality" on dates only do so in order to not foot the bill and have more $$$ in their pockets. Not because they actually care about women not being oppressed or seen as inferior.

[genericname85]

@babylips14 do you really think men are that cheap? Well there are girls out there thatt will agree to a date just to get free food, not having any intentions of dating the guy so maybe you will understand why guys hesitate to pay. Not cause their cheap but cause they have a sense of self worth.

[genericname85]

I understand that in agirls Mind, men end women can't always be equal. They will always find something that makes us unequal and then go forth and blame it on men.

[babylips14]

Why is it wrong for a woman to expect a guy to pay for a date, but not for a man to expect a woman to have sex with him? You men think you’re entitled to women aren’t you? My definition of “equality” means contributing in ways that both are happy with. If you don’t want to pay for dates, fine. There are plenty of feminazis out there. I have a problem when guys tell me that I shouldn’t want a man to pay for a date or when they preach this “equality” bs when it comes to dating etiquette only to degrade women around their friends and visualize them as inferior.

[babylips14]

It’s ironic that you call women who want to be traditional and old-fashioned “prostitutes”, yet feminists are always advocating for freedom to choose and criticizing slut shamers. Most prostitutes, hoes, and porn stars happen to be feminists who think that they can do “whatever they want” with their bodies lol.

[babylips14]

Sorry, that last comment wasn’t for you lol. It was for some other dude.

[genericname85]

@babylips14 "you men think you're entiteled to women" all i can say is that i don't. i can't speak for all men. lets just break "equality" down, cause it's really not complicated in this case:

both he and her take valuable time out of their day to meet up with each other in order to get to know each other better and decided to have a meal along with it, which is fairly common. both are doing the same thing here, no inequality detected.

now why on earth do you argue that the man should pay for both if both did the exact same things? this establishes inequality, cause the man assumes that she somehow does not have enough money to comfortably afford this meal, thus he has to help her financially, cause she can't? isn't that misogynistic? or do you just assume that her time is by default more worth than his time, therefore he has to compensate for that by paying her meal?

explain to me why he has to pay. i don't get it.

[genericname85]

i understand that him paying for you can just be seen as a nice gesture of apreciation, like you'd pay for a good friends dinnner and that's totally fine but being entiteled to getting that meal for free is as bad as a man being "entiteled to women" in my opinion.

[babylips14]

Because that’s how it was since the beginning of time until the feminist movement started influencing people to change. Men being the providers is really a default. That being said, people have different needs and different expectations. There is no right or wrong way to live life. If you don’t want to pay, fine. Find yourself a Ms. Independent girl. But don’t shove your ideology down my throat and don’t bitch about women who want to be taken care of and men who want to take care of them. It’s called being traditional buddy.

[babylips14]

And wanting someone to fulfill your lifestyle or relationship needs is not entitlement given that you’re already giving the provider something in return that doesn’t necessarily have to be money. Entitlement is thinking that you should get everything for free, effortlessly. I think that a guy who expects a woman to pay for her own date and expects relationship benefits from her is the definition of entitled.

[babylips14]

On top of that, women spend significantly more money on getting ready for a date. Make-up, hairstyling, nails, nice clothes, jewelry, etc. all those things cost $$&

[genericname85]

@babylips14 women spend significantly more money to prepare for a date because THEY SO CHOOSE TO that's nothing a man has to compensate for. i didn't talk about any relationship "benefits" the man is entiteled to i wonder what you're implying there. also "Because that’s how it was since the beginning of time until the feminist movement started influencing people to change. Men being the providers is really a default" yes that's how it was but that changed. are you saying you want patriarchy back or what? xD i don't get what you're saying? seems like you don't want emancipation xD

[genericname85]

if i chose to grow myself a magnificent beard and invest into beard oils and a barber, i can have significantly higher cost to prepare for a date but why would i ask my date to pay for that? XD that's my choice so i pay.

[babylips14]

Nothing has “changed”. People want it to change which is why we’re having this argument in the first place. It hasn’t changed because most men still take care of women or at least pay for the dates if they can’t afford to take care of a woman 100%. What prevents some men from taking care of a woman completely is their financial status. Not because they’ve been influenced by this feminism bullshit.

[babylips14]

Yeah, that whole oil in the beard stuff is unrealistic and too extreme so you don’t really have an argument there. We’re talking about day to day life and how much the average woman spends on getting ready for a date. I’m just saying that for the most part, women spend significantly more $$$ on impressing you guys whether you ask for it or not and just because you didn’t ask for it doesn’t mean that you should overlook the efforts she made to impress you. You should be appreciative and show some respect and take care of her. Just like EVERY man did in the 1950’s.

We can argue back and forth all day long, but I still stand by my traditional ideals and think that the feminist movement is something that cheap, lazy, and maybe even mysogonyst guys take advantage of in order to not take care of a woman. Those are my $0.02.

[studDMuffF1n]

Dude it's always going to be the guy, because your always going to be the one to ask her out. And it's been the norm since your great great grand parents. First dates shouldn't break the wallet so who cares. Your always going to pay more in life vs the women. There's sugar daddies but no sugar mommies.

[Paul09]

I would say, whoever invited who, can pay. But I really think, both should pay. It's a first date after all, heck maybe go on a date you don't need to pay for anything lol. You don't know if you like each other, if there's a connection. It's sad when let's say the guy keeps going on first dates and always pays. You both work, equal rights! One isn't a princess, and the other isn't a prince. In the end all up to you and the other person.

[Arcano]

Yes, whoever invited who, that’s what I always answer. Always expect to pay if you invite someone. That’s what I do even now that my boyfriend and I have been together for more than a year. There are some cases where we both know we’ll be only covering ourselves, doesn’t even need to be discussed, and then other times where I may be like, “hey let’s do a movie,” and I always make sure I can afford us both.

[Paul09]

@Arcano In the end its about you 2, not money. Not sure why people freak out a day think the men should always pay. Need more women that think like you.

[monkeynutts]

I can I'm not fussed, split the bill. Some girls have taken me out and got me sloppy drunk, refused to take my money because they don't want to feel emotionally or financially chained to my side, so if I owe the girl money, I can't expect anything in return because I'm the one who has to put out. Interesting role, and psychological mind state. I'm OK with what ever makes a woman comfortable.

[MysteriousDarkness]

I say each person pays for themself.
Why should the guy pay for both?
My girlfriend was the one who offered to pay for herself so I didn't think she was trying to take advantage of me. That showed me she was willing to pay for things instead of expecting someone to pay for her.

[Arcano]

Whoever asks the person to go with them should go with the intention and expectation to pay. Man or woman. That’s how it is with me. Even now with my boyfriend, if I say “let’s go to a movie,” I make sure I can cover us both.

[TheLuckyPizzaDog]

One person pretends to pull the car around, the other pretends to take a "very urgent" and loud phone call and leaves the restaurant as a courtesy to other diners, and let the house cover your meal. 🎉🎉🎉✔️✔️✔️💯💯👍👍👍👍👍

[Miristheiss]

Whoever asked the other person out. It is rude to ask someone else out on a date but then expect them to pay for you when you did the inviting.

Since men usually do the asking out, women just wait to be "courted" men do most of the paying.

[Anonymous]

If the date is not going well, I'll insist on paying for the meal so I don't feel obligated to the guy at all. Then, I won't probably ever want to date him again.

[funguy90]

Guy every time. I was raised that the guy pays the first date.

[Buckzor]

Generally the man will, either because they want to, or because society expects it.

Personally I think you can either split it, or the guy pays, I feel horrible when people pay for me so that's my bias.

[DavidElmers]

In any case, this is up to a person but in my opinion, if we are talking about an actual date with the moment of intimacy and so I think that the guy must pay the bill.

[aquarius97]

We both pay for own food and drink, movie ticket etc, Simple. I don't like that bs about the man should pay for everything. It's nice sometimes but not really neccesary, I'm not broke

[Nerdvana]

The right and only answer is the man. Doesn't matter what year it is. Doesn't matter what feminist say. Doesn't matter what restaurant. Doesn't matter what they order. After that they can do what ever they want.

[Halligan]

My husband and I went Dutch for the first several dates. But we also had the kids in tow.

When we started going out without kids, we started taking turns. (We make the same amount of money).

[Zannika02]

I think it should be split. Or like u cover food and ill get the drinks, shows equal opportunity no freeloaders. But if he insist on paying i will always volunteer to pick up the next date.

[hahahmm]

Whoever asked for the date.
The other person is free to pay half if they wish but the asker should never ask for money.

[xcbrendy]

I've always paid for the first date for both of us, even if I don't think it'll go anywhere. It's being a gentleman

[mrirkre4y4u]

Oh come onn now is this really a question?0mg!!
Ok im calm now. I must ask is there some debate out there because i don't go out on dates really. but if there IS some confusion then thats the major problem with this world

[Lavenderella]

Go dutch. Unless the other party offer. But I prefer to go dutch.

[Futurelooker]

It doesn´t matter if it is the first date or the last: A Gentleman will always pay the bill.

[MeganForreal]

Im old fashioned if a guy asks me out somewhere then i will expect him 2 pay.. now sometimes i will offer n let him decide but he should offer

[Kiels01]

Do you do all the cooking and cleaning for your SO or are you only "old fashioned" when it suits you?

[MeganForreal]

No im old fashioned if my man doesn't wanna cook n clean totally fine by me.. i expect my man to be fixin my car while i wash clothes.. smartass

[Kiels01]

Old fashioned females wouldn't insult a man, know your place!

[MeganForreal]

I know my place ur the 1 trying to make every woman sound like they r something other thsn what they portray.. the fact that u even made the comment offends me. secondly, so what if i did think that way i dont have 2 take every old fashioned trait with me, just the 1s i want and most real men want question that

[MeganForreal]

This is y i dont get a long with todays youth,,

[Kiels01]

Because todays youth are smart enough to see that you have an entitled attitude that is not attractive. Selfishness isn't hot 👍

[babylips14]

Girl, nothing wrong with being old fashioned. I’m on the same boat. These lazy ass guys think they’re entitled to women and are upset that we have more self-respect than investing emotionally in someone without expecting them to put in the effort in return.

And a lot of these guys push for “equality” only when it’s convenient for them such as when it’s time to take care of a woman. Then they’ll degrade women around their friends and perceive them as inferior.

[Kiels01]

@babylips14 at what point did I say I wasn't willing to put the effort in?
All I ask is that if I am putting the effort in then the female i am in a relationship or dating matches that effort, now that is true equality! Equality is not picking and choosing which traditions you want to apply to your relationship on the basis that you dont need to do anything and leave the onus on the other person!! #femaleentitlement

[babylips14]

@Kiels01 Entitlement is thinking that you should get the benefits of being in a relationship without playing your role; effortless and for free.
#lazyboyentitlement

[babylips14]

@Kiels01 Equality is fulfilling each other’s needs and desires. Not going demanding women to play the manly role.

[Kiels01]

@babylips14 whete did i demand the women plays the manly role? On the other hand the opinion owner has stated she expects certain old fashioned traditions (namely men paying for things) but doesn't agree with others (her actually doing anything). Sounds rather enitled to me.

[Arcano]

Geez, she didn’t say anything wrong in the original post. She said if he asks, then he should at least go with the intention to pay. I believe that for BOTH genders. If you invite, you need to expect to pay, even if it ends up being split or whatever. Even now, if I invite my boyfriend, I make sure I can cover us both. She didn’t say it’s the man’s job to pay for anything.

[Kiels01]

@Arcane I have no issue with paying for the first date, look at my comment on this question. However I do have a problem with a growing amount of women expecting all the good things guys have done over the years to continue (paying for dates, fixing things, holding doors open, buying gifts etc) while women don't have to do anything! I simply questioned if that was her ethic, to which I got a sarcastic comment. As soon as the truth comes out the nastiness comes out.. please tell me where I have been unreasonable!

[babylips14]

@Kiels01 Why is it okay for you to expect a woman to have sex with you without you putting in the effort to woo her or earn it; but not okay for a woman to expect you to put in the effort to woo her and earn it?

It’s a hypocritical double standard. You claim that we’re entitled for demanding one thing, yet you’re demanding free and effortless access to women. At least women who expect to be courted are giving you something in return, but she’s not getting much in return for something that is pretty much hard for men in general to have access to. That screams entitlement to me.

#entitledmenwhoscreamequalitywhnitsconvenientforthem

[Kiels01]

@babylips14 do you realise how stupid you sound?
I could simply flip that and say, why do women feel that men should have sex with them without wooing them and earning it... oooh because you think women are better than men and hence ENTITLED!

[babylips14]

@Kiels01 Plus just because we want to be taken care of and courted, and have doors held for us doesn’t mean that we’re “not doing anything” with our lives. We’re giving you emotional support, love, nurture, our amazing personalities, beauty, passionate sex which is hard for men in general to find etc. the least you can do I show appreaciation by putting effort to earn those things instead of thinking that you’re entitled to them.

[Kiels01]

and we give you emotional support, sex, love and all the rest of it too.. so why do we as men have to give more than you as a woman?
not equality, is it?

[MeganForreal]

Usually men with ur attitude kiels suck in life just my opinion no offense..

[Kiels01]

Actually men with my attitude end up with a true loving, caring wife who is willing to be equal in a relationship and doesn't expect her man to be her little bitch and bend over backwards for her.. I will and do work my ass off to make women happy and I like to treat them, buy them gifts, show them I appreciate them, however, if that is a one way street then I am out. You girls on here seem to expect the guy to do all this and in return he gets sex and emotional support wtf.. i give my girl sex and emotional support on top of everything else, you should be doing the same!
So please tell me where my attitude is wrong?

[MeganForreal]

Bsbylips this guy is just a pig thats prob broke as hexk which is y he made the comment on mine in the 1st place. i never said i was entitled i ssid he should offer whrn askin me out and sayin i only take things thats convient for me.. shows he has a negatove attitude towards women in general, they will always be punks like this, im glad u to see u stand ur ground u make very valid. points babylips24

[MeganForreal]

U r so STUPID WHO THE F SAID ANY OF THAT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A DUDE PAYIN ON A 1ST DATE GROW UP U PROB ARE BROKE N JOBLESS PLEASE STOP COMMENTING ON MY POST

[Kiels01]

Maybe I am mistaken but I didn't see in that what is wrong with my attitude exactly? I think your attitude is more in question "this guy is just a pig thats prob broke" hmm bit of a gold digger perhaps?

[Kiels01]

"@Kiels01 Plus just because we want to be taken care of and courted, and have doors held for us doesn’t mean that we’re “not doing anything” with our lives. We’re giving you emotional support, love, nurture, our amazing personalities, beauty"

[Kiels01]

Right there.. thats where it was said. Caps don't make you anymore correct, just pointing out.

[Kiels01]

@MeganForreal By the way, if you could actually read before using your big mouth - you would see that my answer to this question was "Men Obviously" I agree that men should pay on the 1st date, I just don't agree that women should do absolutely nothing, like you seem to want to do.

[babylips14]

@Kiels01 You just sounded stupid by trying to “flip” my own words lol. Men are the ones asking the woman out 😂 Clearly, you’re the one doing the pursuing and hence screaming “Come have sex with me”. Women don’t have to “woo” men into anything and they haven’t since the beginning of time.

Even still, that weak example does not justify men wanting to get laid effortlessly and for free. Give me one reason why it is not okay for me to expect you to put in the effort to have sex with me, but not for you to think you’re entitled to it? I’ll wait.

In addition, men who expect entitlement and expect women to do the work they should be doing knowing that the woman is a traditional one who opposes feminism bullshit, are not loving and supportive. So she isn’t getting equal treatment in return. In the end what matters is that he is getting something in return for his ability to provide. If you want to make this about scorekeeping, then clearly you are brain dead.

#Entitledmen

[babylips14]

We can argue back and forth all day long, but I still stand by my belief that you’re just using feminism as an excuse to be a cheap ass piece of shit. It’s no wonder why men like you are unsuccessful with women and why women gravitate towards real chivalrous men. It certainly pisses you off that most women don’t want your kind, right? Imagine how the world would be if women were into lazy men.

[babylips14]

@ OP, this guy is an idiot. Now he’s saying that making the assumption that he’s broke and not being into broke men makes us golddiggers 😂 Oh, boy. I’m not even going to waste time any more. It’s not worth debating with someone who won’t listen and keeps coming up with weak absurd justifications as to why women should give up their bodies and their time for free and not expect anything in return while a man should enjoy a woman’s body and expect her to give it up for free without any real effort on his part.
Ever heard of the saying of “Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?”. He’s the type of guy who wants it for free lol.

[Kiels01]

@babylips14 I am an idiot? If YOU actually read my comment - I clearly state men should pay for the first date.
I am genuinely shocked and astounded and how self obsessed you are, to me it is a miracle any man would want you for free, let alone have to make some form of effort!

[MeganForreal]

Ur just being rude

[Kiels01]

Hardly, I am being very reasonable. You two are the ones firing around insults like they are going out of fashion - shouldn't really expect anythin more from a pair of self obsessed, classless girls though.

[Nexovous]

I'm old fashioned and find it simply a respect factor that the man is to pay for the meal or event regardless of the circumstances.

[MayBlythe]

Split, since you never know if a second will happen, and whoever asks for a second date should be the one who pays

[inmensus]

Whoever asked the other person out, unless they decide to pay 50/50. If I ask someone out, I don't expect them to pay for me, that's illogical.

[Markfish]

But guys ask the girl out 90% of the time

[Bizmarkie]

Who ever offers to take you on the date it's a social norm for men to take the initiative but I've the women offers to pay ahead of time then that's fine too

[betaTester]

well for first dates I prefer to hang out somewhere like the library, then the park, don't have to pay for that, then we eat and of course we pay for our own food. Then we have sex, and if I pay her she'd be all offended :(

[VIVANT]

no one. we do something for free till we know each other better. then we can each pay for ourselves.

[VIVANT]

dating should be about the people not money.

[terincvd]

On a first date I think the bill should be split. Any further dates should be payed for by the person that asked.

[disgustingweebtrash]

The woman because the man is the true trophy in a relationship

[CarpetDenim]

Agree

[disgustingweebtrash]

@CarpetDenim You're my trophy

[CarpetDenim]

Interesting

[X1erra]

I'd like both to spend our shares. That way, we could have a sense of fairness as we make a commitment of financial equality for each other.

[Canuck37]

On a first date, either you go dutch, or the person who asks pays.

[mistixs]

I am so tired of this question being posted like every week

[Arne123123]

More like 5 times a day

[MeganForreal]

Well then y dont u ignore it

[TisforTori]

I insist on splitting to avoid confusion of owing someone something later.

[borntobegreat]

I think that is a conversation you may want to have with the person you're going on the date with. That way you are both happy with the outcome.

[MoomMan]

The guy does, a date is trying to appeal to a woman to convince her to date/sleep with you. The only way out of this is by either being wealthy or famous which is kind of ironic

[TravisG]

I say the guy should pay first if she seem like she is worth the date. But, if a woman have a problem with the guy paying then, they both can pay for their own.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Who ever asks the other one on the date. You can always split the bill.

[SexyChristianTeacher]

Shouldn't it be both? Every time I've dated a man, he always paid. I guess I'm just very lucky haha.

[Dan_Theman]

Man should always pay

[SexyChristianTeacher]

I disagree philosophically, but if the man offers, then hey!

[johnkr]

No one. Just run away very fast, it's more fun that way.

[Jmcmanning]

Normally whoever asked unless they agreed to pay dutch.

[FreezingNachos]

Split the first then take turns for every date. No one gets shafted if the 1st date didn't work out.

[MrNameless]

Ideally they should split the bill. They're both interested in each other.

[Anonymous]

The guy should always pay, I know all the reasons why someone would disagree but it doesn't feel right not to. Now the 2nd and 3rd dates are different stories 😂

[nikoluushkaa]

Split evenly. I pay for my food, you pay for yours and we split the tip.

[Anonymous]

Normally the first date, the guy should pay and then after that they should both pay. Unless he doesn’t have much money and you have a lot then on the first date both should pay

[milk-and-honey]

I'm going on a first date soon, and I hate how i've been stressing over this!

[Sabretooth]

I suggest paying for his and he pays for yours-that'll put in a positive light-it'll tell him you're not some freeloader and you'll put the equal amount of work into a relationship

[Tyme1313]

I always split the bill. Guys are extremely ignorant to constantly pay for first dates. 🤣

[g_peresilva]

I wouldn't mind going halvies but on my first date my guy paid