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Who pays for the first date, the man or the woman? (Page 2)
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Guy every time. I was raised that the guy pays the first date.
Generally the man will, either because they want to, or because society expects it.
Personally I think you can either split it, or the guy pays, I feel horrible when people pay for me so that's my bias.
In any case, this is up to a person but in my opinion, if we are talking about an actual date with the moment of intimacy and so I think that the guy must pay the bill.
We both pay for own food and drink, movie ticket etc, Simple. I don't like that bs about the man should pay for everything. It's nice sometimes but not really neccesary, I'm not broke
The right and only answer is the man. Doesn't matter what year it is. Doesn't matter what feminist say. Doesn't matter what restaurant. Doesn't matter what they order. After that they can do what ever they want.
My husband and I went Dutch for the first several dates. But we also had the kids in tow.
When we started going out without kids, we started taking turns. (We make the same amount of money).
I think it should be split. Or like u cover food and ill get the drinks, shows equal opportunity no freeloaders. But if he insist on paying i will always volunteer to pick up the next date.
Whoever asked for the date.
The other person is free to pay half if they wish but the asker should never ask for money.
I've always paid for the first date for both of us, even if I don't think it'll go anywhere. It's being a gentleman
Go dutch. Unless the other party offer. But I prefer to go dutch.
It doesn´t matter if it is the first date or the last: A Gentleman will always pay the bill.
Im old fashioned if a guy asks me out somewhere then i will expect him 2 pay.. now sometimes i will offer n let him decide but he should offer
Do you do all the cooking and cleaning for your SO or are you only "old fashioned" when it suits you?
No im old fashioned if my man doesn't wanna cook n clean totally fine by me.. i expect my man to be fixin my car while i wash clothes.. smartass
Old fashioned females wouldn't insult a man, know your place!
I know my place ur the 1 trying to make every woman sound like they r something other thsn what they portray.. the fact that u even made the comment offends me. secondly, so what if i did think that way i dont have 2 take every old fashioned trait with me, just the 1s i want and most real men want question that
This is y i dont get a long with todays youth,,
Because todays youth are smart enough to see that you have an entitled attitude that is not attractive. Selfishness isn't hot 👍
Girl, nothing wrong with being old fashioned. I’m on the same boat. These lazy ass guys think they’re entitled to women and are upset that we have more self-respect than investing emotionally in someone without expecting them to put in the effort in return.
And a lot of these guys push for “equality” only when it’s convenient for them such as when it’s time to take care of a woman. Then they’ll degrade women around their friends and perceive them as inferior.
@babylips14 at what point did I say I wasn't willing to put the effort in?
All I ask is that if I am putting the effort in then the female i am in a relationship or dating matches that effort, now that is true equality! Equality is not picking and choosing which traditions you want to apply to your relationship on the basis that you dont need to do anything and leave the onus on the other person!! #femaleentitlement
@Kiels01 Entitlement is thinking that you should get the benefits of being in a relationship without playing your role; effortless and for free.
#lazyboyentitlement
@Kiels01 Equality is fulfilling each other’s needs and desires. Not going demanding women to play the manly role.
@babylips14 whete did i demand the women plays the manly role? On the other hand the opinion owner has stated she expects certain old fashioned traditions (namely men paying for things) but doesn't agree with others (her actually doing anything). Sounds rather enitled to me.
Geez, she didn’t say anything wrong in the original post. She said if he asks, then he should at least go with the intention to pay. I believe that for BOTH genders. If you invite, you need to expect to pay, even if it ends up being split or whatever. Even now, if I invite my boyfriend, I make sure I can cover us both. She didn’t say it’s the man’s job to pay for anything.
@Arcane I have no issue with paying for the first date, look at my comment on this question. However I do have a problem with a growing amount of women expecting all the good things guys have done over the years to continue (paying for dates, fixing things, holding doors open, buying gifts etc) while women don't have to do anything! I simply questioned if that was her ethic, to which I got a sarcastic comment. As soon as the truth comes out the nastiness comes out.. please tell me where I have been unreasonable!
@Kiels01 Why is it okay for you to expect a woman to have sex with you without you putting in the effort to woo her or earn it; but not okay for a woman to expect you to put in the effort to woo her and earn it?
It’s a hypocritical double standard. You claim that we’re entitled for demanding one thing, yet you’re demanding free and effortless access to women. At least women who expect to be courted are giving you something in return, but she’s not getting much in return for something that is pretty much hard for men in general to have access to. That screams entitlement to me.
#entitledmenwhoscreamequalitywhnitsconvenientforthem
@babylips14 do you realise how stupid you sound?
I could simply flip that and say, why do women feel that men should have sex with them without wooing them and earning it... oooh because you think women are better than men and hence ENTITLED!
@Kiels01 Plus just because we want to be taken care of and courted, and have doors held for us doesn’t mean that we’re “not doing anything” with our lives. We’re giving you emotional support, love, nurture, our amazing personalities, beauty, passionate sex which is hard for men in general to find etc. the least you can do I show appreaciation by putting effort to earn those things instead of thinking that you’re entitled to them.
and we give you emotional support, sex, love and all the rest of it too.. so why do we as men have to give more than you as a woman?
not equality, is it?
Usually men with ur attitude kiels suck in life just my opinion no offense..
Actually men with my attitude end up with a true loving, caring wife who is willing to be equal in a relationship and doesn't expect her man to be her little bitch and bend over backwards for her.. I will and do work my ass off to make women happy and I like to treat them, buy them gifts, show them I appreciate them, however, if that is a one way street then I am out. You girls on here seem to expect the guy to do all this and in return he gets sex and emotional support wtf.. i give my girl sex and emotional support on top of everything else, you should be doing the same!
So please tell me where my attitude is wrong?
Bsbylips this guy is just a pig thats prob broke as hexk which is y he made the comment on mine in the 1st place. i never said i was entitled i ssid he should offer whrn askin me out and sayin i only take things thats convient for me.. shows he has a negatove attitude towards women in general, they will always be punks like this, im glad u to see u stand ur ground u make very valid. points babylips24
U r so STUPID WHO THE F SAID ANY OF THAT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A DUDE PAYIN ON A 1ST DATE GROW UP U PROB ARE BROKE N JOBLESS PLEASE STOP COMMENTING ON MY POST
Maybe I am mistaken but I didn't see in that what is wrong with my attitude exactly? I think your attitude is more in question "this guy is just a pig thats prob broke" hmm bit of a gold digger perhaps?
"@Kiels01 Plus just because we want to be taken care of and courted, and have doors held for us doesn’t mean that we’re “not doing anything” with our lives. We’re giving you emotional support, love, nurture, our amazing personalities, beauty"
Right there.. thats where it was said. Caps don't make you anymore correct, just pointing out.
@MeganForreal By the way, if you could actually read before using your big mouth - you would see that my answer to this question was "Men Obviously" I agree that men should pay on the 1st date, I just don't agree that women should do absolutely nothing, like you seem to want to do.
@Kiels01 You just sounded stupid by trying to “flip” my own words lol. Men are the ones asking the woman out 😂 Clearly, you’re the one doing the pursuing and hence screaming “Come have sex with me”. Women don’t have to “woo” men into anything and they haven’t since the beginning of time.
Even still, that weak example does not justify men wanting to get laid effortlessly and for free. Give me one reason why it is not okay for me to expect you to put in the effort to have sex with me, but not for you to think you’re entitled to it? I’ll wait.
In addition, men who expect entitlement and expect women to do the work they should be doing knowing that the woman is a traditional one who opposes feminism bullshit, are not loving and supportive. So she isn’t getting equal treatment in return. In the end what matters is that he is getting something in return for his ability to provide. If you want to make this about scorekeeping, then clearly you are brain dead.
#Entitledmen
We can argue back and forth all day long, but I still stand by my belief that you’re just using feminism as an excuse to be a cheap ass piece of shit. It’s no wonder why men like you are unsuccessful with women and why women gravitate towards real chivalrous men. It certainly pisses you off that most women don’t want your kind, right? Imagine how the world would be if women were into lazy men.
@ OP, this guy is an idiot. Now he’s saying that making the assumption that he’s broke and not being into broke men makes us golddiggers 😂 Oh, boy. I’m not even going to waste time any more. It’s not worth debating with someone who won’t listen and keeps coming up with weak absurd justifications as to why women should give up their bodies and their time for free and not expect anything in return while a man should enjoy a woman’s body and expect her to give it up for free without any real effort on his part.
Ever heard of the saying of “Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?”. He’s the type of guy who wants it for free lol.
@babylips14 I am an idiot? If YOU actually read my comment - I clearly state men should pay for the first date.
I am genuinely shocked and astounded and how self obsessed you are, to me it is a miracle any man would want you for free, let alone have to make some form of effort!
Ur just being rude
Hardly, I am being very reasonable. You two are the ones firing around insults like they are going out of fashion - shouldn't really expect anythin more from a pair of self obsessed, classless girls though.
I'm old fashioned and find it simply a respect factor that the man is to pay for the meal or event regardless of the circumstances.
Split, since you never know if a second will happen, and whoever asks for a second date should be the one who pays
Whoever asked the other person out, unless they decide to pay 50/50. If I ask someone out, I don't expect them to pay for me, that's illogical.
But guys ask the girl out 90% of the time
Who ever offers to take you on the date it's a social norm for men to take the initiative but I've the women offers to pay ahead of time then that's fine too
Oh come onn now is this really a question?0mg!!
Ok im calm now. I must ask is there some debate out there because i don't go out on dates really. but if there IS some confusion then thats the major problem with this world
well for first dates I prefer to hang out somewhere like the library, then the park, don't have to pay for that, then we eat and of course we pay for our own food. Then we have sex, and if I pay her she'd be all offended :(
no one. we do something for free till we know each other better. then we can each pay for ourselves.
dating should be about the people not money.
On a first date I think the bill should be split. Any further dates should be payed for by the person that asked.