What are your thoughts on going Dutch on the first date?

Question

Going Dutch means splitting the bill.

LesterJester · Accepted Answer

Oh sorry I thought you were talking about a Dutch Oven.

Splitting the bill should be how it is always done. You don't really know the other person and you don't know how far the relationship will go... And you're not looking to be a caregiver or guardian to the other person and they shouldn't be expecting everything to be handed to them for free.

I pay my way and she pays hers. If she expects me to fill her gob with free food and pay her way into restaurants, theatres, concerts and such, then I don't want some freeloader in my life.

Is it the gentlmenly thing to foot the bill?

At one point it was, but back then it was more difficult for women to get a job and were getting paid far less than they are now, so it was expected that the woman wouldn't have any money, or very little.

It's not like that anymore. Everybody has a job of some kind and everybody should be able to afford to cover themselves.

When a relationship evolves and is more long term, I certainly have no problem covering the expenses of going out somewhere. At that stage, you're working on being partners and eventually partners for life where you share everything. But when it comes to first dates?

Nah... Cover yourself and prove you can be independent first. Guys should be looking for a partner, not a child.

TastyBiscuits · Accepted Answer

Hi.

Here is my take on paying for stuff on a date.

Anyone who expects someone to pay for them on a date is a complete tool. Your up your own bum if you think you should have anything bought for you on a date. You are there as two people finding out about one another trying to build a bond, not have your body purchased. Your not there at some business negotiation and your not a visiting dignitary from a foreign land, and you most certainly are not a princess/ prince in need of honour payments for your time. Some of the loudest voices advocating this courting stance are also in the smallest minority, leave it in the past and welcome to the 21st Century.

That said. Give the other person the wiggle room to buy stuff for you, if you offer to split your bill and they offer to buy your meal then that's cool, they are showing they want to invest more in you and it may not yet be at a point where that can be expressed physically. So if that does happen and you are feeling equally into them then find an excuse to buy them something in return. But don't lead people on for free stuff.

In short I agree with going Dutch.

Username678 · Accepted Answer

Blah... whatever that guy is comfortable with. I always went Dutch as far as I remember but it would be nice if a guy bought you a cup of coffee on a 3 or 4th date. Nothing big just small stuff.
Dutch -yes. But then again... if I told a guy -hey let’s get some ice cream and we went to the ice cream truck I think it would be normal of me to pay for both since I invited and it was my idea. If a guy said -hey let’s get some hotdogs (something small) and didn’t offer to pay then that’s a bit off for me.
I’m not a stingy person and hate greedy people and love giving so maybe that’s why...

dandiecandie · Accepted Answer

Listen if guys ever want to go dutch then lets stay home and cook together if your ass is broke im not going to pay infront of everyone. Im a bombshell most likely the next guy watching whatever just happened will probably approach and be like honey come here let me take care of you. Let that guy pay his meal. The reason being going dutch is for friends not for a couple. Otherwise whats the difference. If you want to save money in general than you both cook at home. And spend time together. Thats it. Make a long story short.

ChgzDaniel · Accepted Answer

I thought the rule was if you don't like him split the bill. If you like him let him pay... tell him you 'll get the next one but don't unless you are breaking up or he insists. If he insists then break up with him anyway, it's a sign he will be stingy in the long run.
Another rule for good fun, always watch how he treats waiters because it shows what kind of person he really is.

witherwing · Answer

I wouldn't have it any other way.

beast25179 · Answer

I was brought up to believe in the gentleman pays it is nothing to do with being owed after it is just polite
A gentleman holds the door for a lady
A gentleman waits til he is asked
A gentleman never tells
A gentleman never raises his hands to a lady a gentleman is never late
All things I was brought up to believe in but I still argue with my oldest sister that equal rights for women and I still can't raise my hand to her watched a thing where the lady asked the man to pay when he complains she says well if I pay I don't have to suck your dick tonight

motownplayer2000 · Answer

First date, rule of thumb.. if you invite, you pay... doesn’t matter the gender... after that.. you can split if your going to be in a longer term commitment. But since more men are expected to ask a girl out, and women can’t seem to ever go after what they want.. that the reason why men always pay... traditionally as well, but mostly the first.. that’s why when you go on a first date.. don’t make it elaborate, take her somewhere affordable... if she flips out and complains about you not making an effort... she ain’t the one, bro!

pushingshoving · Answer

Although I like saving money, you just don't. Buy the lady her meal, for God's sake. This kind of mentality will emasculate men and contribute to equality between men and women, but let's be honest, women don't want equality. Cherish your double standards. Cherish stealing half your divorcee's money, automatically winning custody (if you're not a crack-addled whore), being able to get the opposite sex to sleep with you just by showing you're into them, having doors opened for you, dinners and drinks paid for, maternity leave, and other things. Let him pay

ckr1279 · Answer

It's good practice to go Dutch. I generally try to go Dutch, only times it hasn't happened that way is when he snatches the bill and tells me I'm not allowed to pay. And that's only happened a handful of times. I've had a guy tell me that if on the first date the girl wants to go Dutch it's a sign that there won't be additional dates. Everyone is different in it tho

DianaCrimson · Answer

I prefer to pay for my part. That way i know i owe him nothing, as when it comes to splitting that means 50/50 but what if I've ordered something more expensive than him. If i made the invitation i do prefer to pay for all as there are cases when man have said they dont feel comfortable going out right now as they dont have cash atm. but i know man dont like girls to pay for them, so i try to avoid this part so that i dont crush their self esteem.

truthbeknown · Answer

Meh, if she wanted. It feels cold and mechanical. It is also mathematically messy and potentially awkward to deal with tipping and splitting cash. I would rather one pays for dinner and other pays for the movie or whatever you are doing. I believe whoever does the asking should pay.

i3vestri · Answer

I prefer to pay. I don't like going Dutch but I will go along with it depending on who the other person is. If they have a strong independent personality then not splitting may be a bit insulting so I will bite my tongue after I try to convince them otherwise.

Moonchild714 · Answer

Going Dutch on the first Date is the best way to start out a relationship. I always insist we go Dutch. If he refuses then I get the next date. What's also great is he can't use the how much he spent to get in your pants.

Joeofalltrades · Answer

A guy should always pay especially on the first date. And if any woman has an issue with that from some bullshit social justice Warrior crap she can stay single and have absolutely nothing to do with a guy like me.

wolecollner · Answer

I personally think chivalry is dead to those that leave it that way. I will forever pay for my dates because it's the right thing to do. I don't think it's sexist, or outdated, I think it shows the ability to take full responsibility and care for someone which inthink would be a desirable trait that a woman would look for, someone who can take care of their family ultimately (not saying women can't work or anything like that).

Anonymous · Answer

Lmao some girls just feel entitled to using a guy's money.
I'm not broke, it's just that I wouldn't feel like we're genuinely attracted to each other if she wasn't willing to go Dutch pretty much every time.
In my opinion, girls that are unable to separate love and financial security are way too materialistic anyway

kiluad · Answer

If she expected me to pay there was never a second date. Who pays is irrelevant in my opinion. I've taken girls out and had them take me out.

I feel the men who like to pay get a sense of control out of it, and women who insist on a man paying are just entitled princesses.

But mostly like I said it never mattered to me unless it was expected. Then it was a deal breaker. Like most people treating other to something make me feel good.

yucychan · Answer

Nothing wrong with that. I'd would offer to pay most of the times. Its usually like he paid for the movies, and then I'd offered to pick up the tab later for our meals.

floursack · Answer

Whether for a friendly or a romantic outing, if I made the invite, I expect to pay, because I don't want someone's financial status to limit my interactions with them. If the other person offers to pick up or split the check, I accept graciously. I do not keep any sort of ledger about who paid how much or whether someone is ahead or behind- it's not a business venture; just let it go and have fun.

acooke-13 · Answer

I personally prefer that, I always offer to pay my half or split it. I actually don't like people paying stuff for me, makes me feel like I'm taking the mick!

puzzlez · Answer

I'm fine with it! If he wants to insist I won't insult him by refusing, but it seems fair. I usually like to take turns paying for dates with my boyfriend anyway. :)

TisforTori · Answer

I never accept a man I barely know paying for me. I don’t want to be tagged as a waste of money for not doing sexy stuff. I think they appreciate it too no confusion of obligation many believe in.

catalina132 · Answer

i think that who ever initiated the date should pay. if the guy asks the girl, the guy should pay. if the girl asks the guy, the girl should pay. i wouldn’t go dutch until the second date at least

outsidecurve · Answer

I always offer to pay but am impressed when a woman says we can split it. This shows me she's independent and makes her own money. I don't mind paying but not going to force her not to pay

Shoenron · Answer

From my point of you a girl willing to split on the first is rare and earns my respect. I'm still waiting for the day a girl offers to pay for me on the first date (or on any date actually).

Malita55 · Answer

I think it’s a good idea to, because you still don’t know if you want to continue dating each other

HOAAH · Answer

Yes, that's how it should be until you guys are serious

Maxemeister · Answer

In my humble opinion, whoever did the asking is asking the other person to tolerate them for an evening, see if they're truly worthy. So, the least the asker could do is pay for the first date. Almost all subsequent dates should be split

jessture · Answer

In the era of gender equality, splitting the tab only makes sense

Lavenderella · Answer

Absolutely fine with me. Is either we go dutch, or I treat him the next round. I will insist to go dutch actually.

shelbyr1721 · Answer

I personally think it’s a great idea for a first date

browneyes13 · Answer

I think whoever did the asking/invitation should pay.

19magic · Answer

I'd much prefer that tbh I can't stand the idea of owing someone

Sawyerblu · Answer

Sure, doesn’t really matter. It’s nice if they pay, but I don’t mind splitting the bill

nadinatali · Answer

It is either he paying or me, I am not fan of splitting.

TheOtherManOnTheSide · Answer

All for it. I think if you meet a friends with benefits for the first time, and she wants to get a room, it should be split too. Why do I need to pay the whole amount

shreejan · Answer

No dutching I would pay the bill. I am sure each and every girl would want to be independent... paying for their own item but still I would pay... I have money and it is too b spent...

rain_maker112 · Answer

I dont mind, but... who will proceed to ask for the second date?

Mexicoman101 · Answer

That's fine, but I'm not eating anything out of the oven.

Cosytoasty · Answer

Nah if invite I pay. Money is the last thing on my mind on a first date.

TrustyPeacemaker · Answer

I feel if the consensus was go Dutch then I feel it'd be fine but as a guy you can't say go Dutch after the bill is recieved. I've never had any experience with going on a date, but this is what I think

loveslongnails · Answer

I HATE it. If I ask a girl out, the tab is on me. Going dutch is bullshit, it just means a guy is cheap.

silverfox3000 · Answer

Maybe I am from the old school but if someone goes on a date with me I will pay for her and mine self.

Saray · Answer

I prefer paying at first , later would be alright. Its the chivalry way of doing things.

Aynsof · Answer

Everyone would be better served with this being the norm

Peopleschamp · Answer

I'm cool with going dutch. It makes the most sense to me. Maybe I'm just stubborn :/.

Anonymous · Answer

Doesn't matter to me. In fact, I prefer it because then you don't feel like you owe the guy anything, like another date.

JJ81212 · Answer

It's heaven to me, my last girlfriend did that on the very first and let me tell you, she got that repaid in tons!!!

Joultee · Answer

Im all for it but guys will still feel obligated to pay for dates. Itll take some time before its the norm

StripClubBonerBoy · Answer

I usually pay on a fist date but there is nothing wrong with going dutch. It depends on the couple and their feelings about it.

Anonymous · Answer

I prefer going dutch at the first date or not because boy's shouldn't always be the one's to pay the bills

Anonymous · Answer

I support this. I don’t like when people pay for me. I always try to pay.

ZeussLightningBolt · Answer

I think first date the man should pay, but after a while they should start going Dutch

Anonymous · Answer

There are some lowkey hookers up in this thread. My apologies that was offensive of me to say. Call girls...

hornyhammereatsfish · Answer

If you're both professionals that's fine. If you're not in the sex with multiple partners lifestyle, thats fine. If you genuinely didn't like him and wanted to make a point, that's also fine.

tobasaurus · Answer

Sounds good depending on whose date idea or wether or not it was my idea to go to the place. (If it's my idea and it's expensive, I'll pay. I would feel like a bum otherwise)

My-Shangri-La · Answer

Women want equality right? Okay well pay half of the bill, that is equality.

Demised · Answer

I dont mind at all but ill insist on payin but if she wants to split it then she's genuine. 😊

gunducci · Answer

I think why not. I mean, it should be discussed, and if both are fine with it, splendid.

CaptainADD · Answer

Nein, I would pay the bill if it is a date. Not that she can't but because it's my job!

MattMann416 · Answer

I usually always insist on paying. But that's just me lol

mooooomooooooo · Answer

It's not okay the male always should pay on the first date

BlueJack · Answer

Genius, now nobody can argue on who pays the bill. Only on who had the most expensive meal. XD

princess_amanda · Answer

Totally fine with me :)

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