Where have all the real men gone?

[Exterminatore]

I have long been fed up with the throngs of gold digging, controlling, whores out there. Not all women are this way but most are and finding a good one is like finding a needle in a haystack. Why is this? It’s because we have no more real men. We do have lots of men who attempt to mimic what they think a man probably should be, but it’s not genuine. We have throngs of all these “nice” guys running around angry at women. These nice guys aren’t really nice. They’re weak. They don’t see it, but the women do. They just want the approval of whomever their dating and to get laid so bad they will tolerate anything. That’s why we have all these bitchy, self centered women. If men start asserting themselves and stop being wimps women will have no choice but to be single or lesbians. I don’t mean men should act like “a holes” I mean they need to have self respect. Decades of feminism has trained and indoctrinated men to be soft and sensitive with weak boundaries and no self esteem. They have been told women want sensitive “nice” guys. No they don’t. They want men who are leaders, who can say no, who don’t tolerate disrespect, who express strength through self control and self reliance. Who will not tolerate bad behavior just because they’re lonely, or want to get laid. They want men who control their own emotions. Where is “strong silent type”? Dead and gone and replaced with men trained to share their feelings and making their girlfriend into their therapist and secretly want to be mothered. I think there are good women out there but so many bad ones because weak men have trained and given them license to act like they do. I’m also not talking about the opinion women who have 3 kids by 3 different dads and want to tell men to man up and what a real man is like. So ladies who are like that save it. I’m not talking about the opinion of men who wear a mask and try to imitate a man but are really insecure wimps. You guys can save it too. I’m not talking about going MGTOW either.

[IsabellaIII]

You are going to find exactly what you want to find in life. If you see mostly "gold digging, controlling, whores" out there you will see that in every girl you meet regardless of how she really is. Then you will confirm it to you yourself. "Aha, she asked what my goals in life are. She wants to know if I plan to make good money!" If you want to be negative and hate women that's your choice. It's only hurting you.

[Exterminatore]

Are you implying I Iack the ability to be objective and project a certain attitude onto all women I meet?

That’s certainly not true of me.

[IsabellaIII]

It seems to with all the assumptions and generalizations you make about women in this post.

[Exterminatore]

Because most are like that these days.

[IsabellaIII]

That's just your viewpoint. One of billions in this world. I thank God there are more stable viewpoints out there.

[Exterminatore]

I’m sorry there are more viewpoints you view as “stable”. Did you read the entire thing?

[IsabellaIII]

Yes,

"That’s why we have all these bitchy, self centered women" I haven't seen many bitchy self-centered women in a long while but of course they exist here and they existed before feminism was even a thing actually.

You seem to talk for all women, you seem to know what we all want? I see those excuses as a means to treat women badly. When you say "I think there are good women out there but so many bad ones because weak men have trained and given them license to act like they do." You are saying that men have allowed women to behave a certain way but you, you are a leader, you will train us all accordingly. No thank you.

[Exterminatore]

I’m not talking for women and I don’t care what they want.

What I want is datable women who aren’t completely self absorbed and understand I’m not taking the submissive role in the relationship.

No. I’m saying women feminized men, and the feminized men in turn allow women to have a smart mouth like yours. They will date you and put up with an attitude I can already see in your statements just so they don’t have to be lonely or not get laid.

I can already hear echos of “no man is telling me what to do” in your statements.

Exactly what I will not date. I’d rather be dead than be in a relationship with that.

[Exterminatore]

And what I’m saying is if men just suck it up and leave these types of women be they will have no choice but to put some sugar in their bitchy domineering attitudes or learn to be single or with women instead.

[IsabellaIII]

My God, why would the thought even enter your head about dating me? It would never even enter mine.

"I’m saying women feminized men, and the feminized men in turn allow women to have a smart mouth like yours."

Thanks for the compliment, I enjoy expressing my opinions and what you demonstrate is exactly what you are talking about: You demonstrate weakness. You can not tolerate any view other than your own without getting personal and offensive. That is not the sign of a leader or an alpha!

I suggest you go get a dog and some beer to cry in.

[Exterminatore]

Awww you really hurt my feelings. And said I’m not an alpha as if I care about labels.

Right. I don’t like view points that are not only different than mine but 180 degrees different.

We can end this conversation now.

[IsabellaIII]

I wasn't trying to hurt your feelings, that wasn't my intention but it seems you hate women so of course you will it that way? See how that works? You created this conflict so now you can tell yourself I'm just another bitch. You would do better to face your personal demons/ personality flaws than project them on others and blame everyone else for your own problems with dating women.

[Exterminatore]

I hate shallow, gold digging whores. Not all women. I love women really.

Well look at what you said? Is there any reason I should view you as a gentle and submissive women who will treat me with respect? No.

I was being sarcastic. You didn’t hurt my feelings. You can call me any name or insult me in any way you like.. I wouldn’t care. I don’t need your approval I have my own and that’s all I require.

[IsabellaIII]

You don't love women. You want a submissive woman that doesn't speak her mind nor challenge you. Someone who never questions you so that it won't be painful to see how you're wrong. It takes a far greater strength in a man to admit when he's wrong, to see other viewpoints than to be a brute and dominate a woman so she has no voice or "smart mouth" as you put it. A dog is a perfect companion for you and you can train her to be exactly what you want.

[Exterminatore]

That’s right. I want a submissive woman. I don’t care if she speaks her mind. Life is challenging enough, I don’t need one who challenges me. I don’t need an ongoing daily battle for who is really in charge. When that happens you’ve outlasted your usefulness.

I have no issue admitting if I’m wrong or at fault, but the proper basis for what’s wrong and not needs to be the starting point. I have very definite conceptions of right and wrong and domineering women aren’t right nor are feminized men.

I don’t need a woman’s mouth for voicing opinions. We’re not equals. We’re not the same so we can’t be. The number 2 is not equal to the number 5 because they’re different. Also the number 2 should be happy being the number two and the number 5 ought to be happy being the number 5. No role reversal.

I’m not interested in training anyone. I want them to have the proper starting point of view. I can mould and lead from there.

What you describe is a house that’s a matriarchy. I won’t tolerate that.

[IsabellaIII]

No one said anything about matriarchy.

"I don’t need a woman’s mouth for voicing opinions. We’re not equals."

That's all I need to know about why you can't find anyone to date at 41. Go live in your hell you made for yourself.

[Maradiah]

You sound like you'd be a perfect candidate for Islam. You'd like it. The religion advocates oppressing women. So you'd fit right in. Move to a Muslim country, and maybe just maybe you will a lovely wife who will be submissive to all your BS.

[Exterminatore]

I’m a Christian. Christianity teaches wives are to submit to husbands.

[IsabellaIII]

You aren't a Christian in any sense of the word.

[Exterminatore]

If you don’t think the Bible teaches that you aren’t.

[IsabellaIII]

Do you also do bloody sacrifices of children to God?

[Exterminatore]

No only women with attitude problems.

[IsabellaIII]

No doubt. By the way, Jesus never said women should submit to their husbands. If you were a true Christian and took his words above all else, you'd know that.

[Exterminatore]

No you’re not a Christian and I’ll prove it.

1. “Every scripture inspired of God is also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction which is in righteousness.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭ASV‬‬

There you have it all scripture is inspired of God.

[Exterminatore]

2. “In like manner, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, even if any obey not the word, they may without the word be gained by the behavior of their wives;”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭3:1‬ ‭ASV‬‬

Thats Peter, the same Peter who was with Jesus.

[Exterminatore]

3. “He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:4‬ ‭ASV‬‬

That says anyone who doesn’t follow God, yet claims to be a Christian is a lair.

[IsabellaIII]

That's not Jesus. :)

[Exterminatore]

Please stop talking about subjects which you know nothing of.

[IsabellaIII]

To imply Peter was like Jesus is blasphemy

[Exterminatore]

Doesn’t matter. There is the trinity and all scripture is inspired of God and inspired the same scriptures that talk of Submission of wives to husbands.

Jesus didn’t teach differently.

[Exterminatore]

To imply he was teaching something Jesus would not have approved of is blasphemy.

[IsabellaIII]

Words have been twisted and the bible has been rewritten by the Romans. I only trust what Jesus stated and more importantly I live his teachings, unlike a brute like yourself.

[Exterminatore]

Oh I know you’d like to twist the words into what you’d like them to say. I know the concept of submission to a man horrifies and repulses you. I could see that from very early on.

However the Bible says what it does. You can tell Jesus why you didn’t believe what his word says on Judgement Day. I hope he will hear your case, but I know he won’t. You’re full of rebellion.

[Exterminatore]

My favorite scripture:

“It is better to dwell in the corner of the housetop, Than with a contentious woman in a wide house.”
‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭21:9‬ ‭ASV‬‬

[Exterminatore]

Proverbs was written in the Old Testament. Did the Romans twist the words of the Jews as well.

It’s interesting to not nearly every manuscript we have of the old and new testaments all match.

Did the Romans twist all those as well?

It doesn’t matter. You won’t hear me nor God. You follow some Jesus of your imagination.

Now go on in your rebellion, but stop talking of things you don’t know. You don’t know the Bible so don’t claim you do and give me wild conspiracy theories to justify your feelings.

Just simply do what you are going to anyway which is make your future husband serve you rather than you helping him. It’s what women were created for.

“And Jehovah God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a help meet for him.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:18‬ ‭ASV‬‬

[IsabellaIII]

Jesus never said anything like what you are saying. Christians like you, throughout history have used isolated esoteric bible snippets to horrifically murder and do all sorts of horrible things. I'll stick with Jesus, he wasn't a brute like you. I'm confident you are already in hell.

[Exterminatore]

Just remember. We’ll all be judged. You. Me. Everyone. Be sure you will enter heaven. Be very sure what you’re saying is accurate.

“And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne; and books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of the things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead that were in it; and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death, even the lake of fire. And if any was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:12-15‬ ‭ASV‬‬

[Exterminatore]

Oh no dear. I follow God’s word... you follow rebellion and make up or believe fables about why you don’t need to follow certain parts of the Bible.

I just showed you scripture says whoever doesn’t obey God’s commands and says he knows him is a liar.

You stick with your conspiracy theories if that’s what allows you conscience to be in rebellion against God and his mandates. We’ll all answer for our deeds. Just be very sure you can answer well for your deeds to the judge who will be Jesus on Judgement Day.

[IsabellaIII]

It's funny that people such as yourself think you can go around and treat anyone anyway you like but get off scot-free because you call yourself a "Christian". Unfortunately, you have demonstrated no christian-like behavior here, just demonstrated your degenerate nature for all to see.

[IsabellaIII]

@Maradiah He would be right into the wife beating part I'm sure. He thinks he's a Christian. Pretty hilarious.

[softrosie]

AMEN

[Shoenron]

They are between the nice guy and the fuck boy, ie two clichés that prevent people from thinking too much.
(Read that carefully)

[Exterminatore]

Can’t agree. The nice guys and fuck boys are really the same thing just manifested differently. They’re both insecure wimps. In the nice guy it’s obvious. In the fuck boys (I’m assuming you mean alpha males or what ever term) it’s the same wimpy insecurity underneath a mask of being a bad ass or it presents itself as an basically narcissism. Both are week and insecure. The fuck boys are just actors really. Probably read books or whatever about what women want and did that. The problem with that is it’s acting. It’s false. Because being a man, a real man who is kind, but not week, who is decent in terms of morals and character but not clueless and can be savage even need be, who does enjoy women but isn’t needy, that can’t be taught. It comes from within. Any attempt to behave that way but it not coming from within is merely acting, and most women will eventually see right through it.

[Shoenron]

Sorry that makes no sense, fuckboys are fuckboys because women can't see through it, that's the point. If women could see through it they'd just be wannabe fuckboys.
Nice guys and fuckboys are at both ends of the spectrum.
Women abuse nice guys weaknesses.
Fuckboys abuse women weaknesses.

[Exterminatore]

Yes, I understand your point and you are correct. I think we’re working off a different definition of what a fuckboy is. I’m thinking a fuckboy are guys who put on the fake macho type act. They manifest some of the dominance characteristics women are attracted to, but really are just insecure. It a defense mechanism. They act the part, but because it’s not genuine women tend to see through it because you can only go off a script for so long before situations arise that aren’t in the script. What you’re describing as a fuckboy is what I’d call a narcissist or possibly a sociopath. They are predatory. Both women and men have a hard time spotting them. TBC

[Exterminatore]

So I thought fuckboys were the stereotypical “bad boy”. Now narcissists and sociopaths are different. Some of them in fact are the “bad boy” type, but they’re different. They are 100% selfish, and completely lack empathy, but initially this is read by women as not being a wimp and being secure and confident. They are also very adept liars and typically are extremely charming at least initially. I think of them as a separate class all together and they are in both sexes. They interpersonally exploitative and play off the weaknesses and vulnerabilities of whomever their chosen target is. They do this often for some gain materially or sex and also because they enjoy mentally, emotionally and sometimes physically abusing their chosen target. They do this for the sense of power they get by tormenting their target. They often are excellent isolating their target and also play the role of being the “good guy” to the victims family and friends. TBC

[Exterminatore]

Often the victim is unaware they are being exploited and abused. Once they are often these predators have endured the target will look petty and crazy when they reach out for help or advice from someone. They play off every and anyones weaknesses and use a wide variety of tactics to wear their victims down. They almost always choose people with low self esteem, week boundaries, people pleasers, the lonely and desperate, and the unintelligent.

[Exterminatore]

*ensured not endured.

[Exterminatore]

Now the “bad boy” will often have some narcissistic traits as well, but often are not predatory. Unlike narcissists and sociopaths who are deliberate. The “bad boy” is just a turd. Yeah selfish, and manipulative. Yeah they act like they’re secure, but aren’t. They’re often braggarts but do so because they want approval. Kinda like the high school bully. They want attention good or bad. The narcissist and sociopath share some of that, but they tend read people well. They figure who the target is at the core. Then mirror that back at the target. Basically they become the dream guy of the victim by mirroring the victim themselves. So the victim falls in love with the traits of themselves the narcissist or sociopath mirrors back at them. I see them as a bit different. They’re pretty much completely devoid of a conscience. They’re Machiavellian.

[name_is_eric]

The French revolution was the beginning of the end.

[Exterminatore]

Interesting, please expound on that.

[Jean-Marie_Céline]

I do agree on some points, but I'd say every couple has it's own dynamics.

In my relationship, my girlfriend is the older one, the taller one and the one who takes charge most of the time, and I don't feel "feminized" at all.

I work two jobs and make good money for my age, I am involved in cultural initiatives and have accomplished a few things.

I don't think I'm that big example of masculinity, but I do consider myself a real man, and a decent one at that.

[Exterminatore]

Fair enough.

[Lance1965]

Good points. One of the reasons women get away with so much bullshit these days is men have allowed to happen and still allow it.

[Exterminatore]

Yep. We (not me but many) put up with them and they see it as license to be a turd of a human being and that we’ll tolerate it.

The indoctrination doesn’t help, but neither does being a weak willed sap once acknowledging the truth or learning some of it.

[Maradiah]

Lol, you sound salty. Which girl rejected you?

[Exterminatore]

Buddy it’s not about rejection it’s about being a man.

[Maradiah]

Lol. Yeah sure it is. You keep telling yourself that.

[Exterminatore]

Did you read all of what I said or come to you’re brilliant conclusion on your own?

It has nothing to do with rejection, nor have I been rejected and that’s souring my point of view.

It’s me whose doing the rejecting, not me that is being rejected as the basis for my opinion.

[Maradiah]

In essence you got tired of being whipped by women for 40 years of your ife. And have finally decided to grow a pair and become as you call it a "man".

[Exterminatore]

Yeah that’s it.

[Maradiah]

It took you 40 years to figure that out? :/

[Exterminatore]

I just agreed with you so you can stop now.

No. What it is I’m fed up of going out with some chick only to find she’s just a bitch.

I think these women are like this because men have let them become spoiled bitches.

So if you want to have a discussion., fine. Otherwise I’ll agree. I’ve been a giant puss for 40 years and you’re so much wiser and a better smart ass than me at 16 and that way we can just save the whole back and forth about a point I’m not making and things that didn’t happen and you can display your feathers and feel all proud and life will go on.

[Maradiah]

I apologise I am not trying to patronise you. But yes I agree with the points you made. I am still subservient towards women in a way as well.

[Exterminatore]

Apology accepted. Why are you subservient?

[Maradiah]

The main reason being beauty. And hormones,.

Your hormones really cloud your judgement.

[Exterminatore]

They can. That’s why you need to flush those hormones right out so you can think clearly.

[Maradiah]

So you think it is a myth that girls are more emotional than guys?

And it's all due to them being spoilt if they don't get their way.

[Exterminatore]

I think the reason emotionally more that’s guys for certain.

I think that’s do to no one putting it in check. I mean as a society.

[Maradiah]

I don't agree. I think women are amazing!!

[Exterminatore]

Fair enough.

[tartaarsaus]

There are plenty.