Are all the good guys taken?

[coachTanthony]

Are all the good guys taken?

Plenty of good guys out there

Good guys are tired and have walked away

All the really good guys are taken by the smart women

all the above

other

[Anonymous]

Well 50 to 60% of men in my age group are married so I assume of those men are good guys.

I don't know I haven't made an effort yet really to actively date. I took the plunge to go to a 50+ meetup group thinking it was a singles group only to find out halfway through dinner that it was only an interest group open to singles and married.

In my age group most meetups are dominated by women. Probably because more of us are alive and maybe some men have just dropped off the dating scene. The ratios of men to women gets worse over time 1 man to 4 but one woman told the ratio isn't that bad because a lot of women give up on dating too.

A lady at the bank I go to just told me to wait until the men start divorcing. I told her that sounded a bit predatory wishing for someone's marriage to implode. I think it is all about broadening ones dating pool. Loosening up a bit on what a man should "possess". Not the big stuff but the minor stuff. Widen the ages one will date if over the age of 30. 10 years younger 10 years older. Don't just date within one's race. Even if you have to date within one's faith like you are jewish or muslim there are many people within those two religions who come from different races all over the world. Be open to a man who might be the exact opposite of who you thought you might date (within reason) That's my idea. I'll see how that works in the real world.

[Daisy007]

"Good" guys? I'm sure there's a good amount of them out their, it just depends if I / they find them attractive. I define good as nice/charming so in that sence no! They're not all "taken" BUT for me to date them I would have to find the decently attractive looks wise 1st thennn I'd see if they're "good" guys.

[ask4any]

I'm a good guy. Definitely a man!

[Kaazsz]

There’s tons of great guys out there.

I suspect the majority of them are unattractive to women.

I think society has taught men to be beta. As a result women are not attracted to good men anymore. Good men become beta because to follow what society tells you to do makes you beta and makes you unattractive to women.

I define beta and alpha as this:

Alpha: displays behaviors which attracts women.

Beta: displays behaviors that repels women.

Society teaches men to be beta.
Society shames men for being alpha.

Ultimately alpha and beta are meaningless. The real reality is women are attracted to men who express themselves fully and are comfortable in their own skin and value themselves above anyone else.

This is why most men are beta now. They are riddled with social anxiety and fear of women. They are no comfortable around women nor with their own selves. Though these men are good men they don’t know how to be attractive to women while also staying within the social protocol of being a beta. You do this by becoming comfortable with yourself and around women. Relaxed easy and cool around girls. Once you can be like that women can see the good in you. If you act scared and full of anxiety they will never see you.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

Oh if all guys do so, how could I differentiate ones who are very experienced with girls from ones who are actually not? I think I have learned to notice that so far. It would be good if you act what you are. Why can't a man be alpha and beta at the same time?

[Kimochi]

i dont drink, smoke, or party ever. but most of the girl are exact opposite
all i do is work, and go home. i hate going places. so you dont have to worry where i have been
i dont waste money on stuff, save up $1200 every month for the last 5 years since i start working.
i have like a 3 good friend and thats all i need, mostly talk on nett but do sometime hangout like once every week or 2 week. so you dont have to worry i dont have time for you.
i have social anxiety, i dont talk very much, so most people find me boring and thats it.

young women dont want men that have boring stable life, all they want is to party and travel and shit. could say than between them and i, have a completely opposite mind set

dont even get me start on women who are superficial, all they do is dating douchbag just becuase he look attractive, and than bitching that all men are the same and where are all the good guy gone, while Chad and his gang jizzing on your face

when they start to hit the wall, thats when they'll start look back, start to lower their bar. just to have someone take care of them finacialy.

all guy know this and yes, Good guys are tired and have walked away

[Logorithim]

At any given time, there are. But whether a woman views them as the right guy may be a different story.

[btbc92]

Mostly B. A is HIGHLY subjective from the way many are speaking, and I doubt most of them are taken. But people like them and me are indeed hiding like good women are hiding and tired.

[jameswoodell201]

In my opinion a good woman has a good heart. she is kind and compassionate to everyone. whether they be rich or poor. she tries her best to be faithful in the relationship. she isn't stuck up or self centered. and she forgives and shows mercy. those woman are the ones who deserve good men. my mom was good to my father when I was growing up but he admitted to me that he wanted another woman. i would never cheat on my future partner and I would want one the same

[btbc92]

Yes, but you have to understand that regardless of if that's a good woman or not. At the end of the day we mostly do not want to be involved in situation that goes against our upbringing and morals. For me since a lot of men especially do not want to wait until marriage to have sex anymore, why am I going to jeopardize myself because that's the way how the world wants? And then I'm told I am never going to be a good wife, mother or girlfriend because of that? I'm just asking just sick and tired of this modern dating crap and I just rather not participate in it.

[jameswoodell201]

Im actually waiting until marriage to have sex.

[btbc92]

Good. Just make sure you don't get yourself involved with a person that's going to give you a lot of hell.

[jameswoodell201]

That's the thing though. im not even sure I wanna date. tons upon tons of men I've met tell me the same thing. don't get married all woman are evil, they control you , they only care about themselves

[btbc92]

@jameswoodell201 You do what is best for you. While you shouldn't pay attention to everybody is evil nonsense, its best not to be naive about your prospects either. As long as you have good intentions you should be okay. I believe in only dating amongst friends you already know. Not strangers. Because if you date a stranger, you have to try to get to know this person from the ground up, and they are not entitled to tell you anything, but you are entitled to the truth. And if they refuse to open up about it, walk away. You owe them nothing.

[Apple1996]

I don't think they are taken, I think they are hiding

[poneglyphs]

True I'm in my house sleeping

[Pinay_ako]

Nope they are not all taken.

[SAVAGEDANK]

naw we are just taken for granted

[loveseeker9824]

I second that

[damaster]

@SAVAGEDANK big facts

[CallmehRachel]

i agree with you @Pinay_ako there are many good lookin guys still out there in the world

[MzAsh]

For the same reason the good women are taken.

[Secret6620]

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[Desconhecida]

No. Not at all.

[devilman666]

Oh, dont start this bullshit. I actually hate this discussion so much because it's full of misinformation and bullshit. "Am I asking too much to find an attractive, independent, solvent guy my age?" (Solvent means wealthy and able to pay off her debt, because apparently it's still a mans job to take care of women #sexism #DownWithGenderNorms).
by the way, men die younger and faster on average than women, so ofcourse by the time you are in your mid 40s there will be a lot less men your age, and the ones who didn't commit suicide or die in a workplace accident will likely already be married. I say that since most women making this argument are in their 40s or older, you are far too young to be making such a toxic and offensive argument. By asking "where have all the good men gone" you are labelling all single men as being 'bad' or 'not worth your time'.

"A man who has aged well, has a good outlook on life, a joie de vivre about him and who has seemingly done well for himself is very attractive to his peers. However, for the most part he is drawn to younger, sexier, more vibrant models." Because he should be forced to date the women in his age group.

"Men my age are all up for a pipe and slippers life, and I’m not" I want to live life the way I did in my 20s, I dont care if the man is exhausted from 35 years of working in a mine, he needs to want to go out and dance if he wants to be a good man!

"even as gender scripts fade, women have come to expect equality in the workplace but old-fashioned chivalry in their romantic lives. Men, in turn, are growing resentful of the mixed messages."

"She points to pick-up artists who promise a return to "primal masculinity" in the midst of "dating disarray," as well as other men who have given up altogether, on blogs such as Eternal Bachelor."

"A lot of men, particularly college-educated men, want to be more involved as fathers. Feminism has been successful in asking and getting men to see being a dad as a really important part of their lives. Still, [the job market]is really competitive, and at a certain point for married couples, somebody's going to have to step back and it's usually going to be the woman. A growing number of men are willing to [take parental leave] The big, unanswered question is whether women will really be truly happy with that, or whether they'll find it deeply, unconsciously disturbing that they're earning more than their husbands. We don't know that yet."

To highlight this, I have a question for you, where have ALL the good women gone? Women used to wait till marriage for sex, they used to be loyal, compassionate, and loving, now they're ALL greedy and self centered. Plus, once I actually marry one she'll just let herself go, or cheat on me, because I'll have to work long hours to support the family while she will probably work part time, at least thats what statistics tell me. (Its kinda insulting, right?)

[kim45456]

Do you wait till marriage too?

[devilman666]

@Kim45456 No, and I dont expect that of women, if you can't tell that was sarcasm designed to show how sexist this "where have the good men gone?" Bullshit is. It is holding men to gender norms where they have to be strong, masculine, and wealthy. I merely turned the tables and asked the same question women ask of men.

Here's the answer: Times are changing, and the definition of what a good man is needs to change as well. Women need to stop thinking that their man needs to make more money than them, women need to stop expecting men to protect them. Times have changed to allow women more and more freedom, yet expectations on men remain largely the same, many men have largely given up on dating because of this, because most women expect chivalry and to be spoiled ans protected. Women are equal to men under the current laws, and they need to stop holding men to expectations higher than what they hold themselves.
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www.bolde.com/include-perfect-man-list-leave/
www.zoosk.com/.../

[devilman666]

#DownWithGenderNorms!

[Secret6620]

Triggered 😆

[devilman666]

@secret6620 I am indeed offended. It is ignorant to say there are no single good men, just as it is ignorsnt to say there are no single good women.

[Secret6620]

You shouldn't come to posts that trigger you. Please don't take your problems out on me for no reason. 😞

[justtechh]

well damn.. Im not taken... even my ex's would consider me a good guy. each one had it's reasons for ending. I was a stepping stone for several. but I've been single 5 years now. went through a really bad breakup, and several other things all at the same time. extremely traumatic time in my life that broke me in many ways. so I stayed single to not drag anyone through my issues from that. only recently have I felt comfortable with the idea of being able to see people again, without feelings guilty or comparing them to her, or feeling like I'm doing something wrong. I was emotionally unavailable for a few years.

I guess it depends on your definition of what a good guy is. maybe part of the problem is that you're subconsciously interested in what isn't available, they aren't trying to impress anyone. they are themselves. usually. instead of trying cheesy pickup lines and trying to impress. or you see how they treat their SO and you want that, but obviously you wouldn't see how a single guy treats his SO if he doesn't have one.. there could be a lot of reasons why you feel this way...

[Secret6620]

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[Arielbubble]

No plenty still waiting, but almost a quarter suffer from depression, commir suicide n are just desperate to meet girls, all coz of fucking stupid social expectations that are sexist n demeaning n toxic. Give some of them a chance girls. Go nab em. 🙂😎😎😎😎😘

[cth96190]

Until they reach your age, most females do not want good men.
They want POS bad boys, because that is what excites them.
Young men who have old fashioned honourable intentions, as well as good prospects, are rejected and told that they are ‘boring’, or ‘too nice’.
Such men understandably become bitter, resentful and angry.
It is not being rejected per se that upsets them, it is the low quality nature of the men who most young women prefer instead of them.
Add being left broken hearted after the end of what relationships might happen.
That toxic soup is from where the suicide and depression come.
Later, when they are about your age, a significant number give up and walk away.
They will not approach you. They will probably avoid talking to you, if they can.
If a female sees a good quality man on the high side of 30, she is probably going to have to make the approach, because most likely he will not.

[jameswoodell201]

@cth96190 the same with woman. my mom was good to my father when I was growing up. she was very kind and compassionate. and my dad left her for an evil slut. he personally told me left my mom because she was supposedly too kind and generous. so it happens to both.

[Unit1]

Well said. Go get us, ladies 😀 some of us will have our arms open for you ☺

[CaptainOverthink]

I personally think if women would just lower their superficial standards just a tiny bit and give the lesser good-looking ones some wiggle-room there are plenty out there still.

But then there's the obvious question; what's considered a good guy?
You looking for a family-man?
A cool, respectful and confident guy to party and hang out with?
Or simply someone with some good conversational skills and a selfless heart?
None of the suggestions above is necessarily a good-looking or overly confident guy.

[CaptainOverthink]

Hehe I see my mistake there.. 🙈

[AlienParasite]

As long as I know there are good guys who are single, other different thing is if you have any interest in them or if they have interest in you. But you personally not having any interest in them doesn't make them bad, and them not having interest in you neither would make them bad.

[Secret6620]

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[Maraneva]

Lol nope they're not taken most of the times. It's basic psychological preference towards initial attraction over inner character that makes people choose someone they're attracted to rather than someone who's good in heart.
By the time the lesson is learnt the hard way, the mind just shuts down and comes to a conclusion that all people are bad and untrustworthy. A branch of that conclusion sparks off the thought that since everyone is gonna be a douchebag, then 'logically' the world should be devoid of good people who are still single.
It's all down to the perspective of the individual under consideration 🤷

[bamesjond0069]

I'm handsome, intelligent, successful, very social. I also refuse to date any girl over 22, who is fat, or who has fucked more than 4 guys. She also better be conservative and traditional. So 99% of women are undateable and not worth my time as far as I'm concerned.

[coachTanthony]

LOL okay!

[bamesjond0069]

Well if girls wonder where guys like me are who are also looking for long term relationships and marriage I'm looking for my equal in terms of overall attractiveness and thats the kind of girl on my level.

[Soft4u]

There's no way of knowing what guy is good by looking at him, that can only be done by getting to know the guy better.
That's what makes this question anyone's guess.
I like to think there's plenty of good guys out there, the problem I have right now is being in the right place at the right time to meet a good guy.
It's not that my career won't allow it to happen it doesn't make it easy that's for sure, I believe if I want something bad enough I'll do what it takes to get it.

[MzAsh]

There are plenty of good men out there. They are with good women. High value women attract high value men.

Be a high value woman.

[Ayer93]

Best advice I've heard all day and perhaps all year ^ Well said.

[MzAsh]

Thank ya

[Unit1]

Excellent point! Take notes, ladies 😘

[Djaay]

You sure emphasized your value according to yourself. Men dont chase a woman of his own value so to speak. It's the other way around where a woman claims her value to be in his league.
So in your explanation , what are you accually considering a high value is for a woman?

[MzAsh]

Men qualify themselves to a woman first, then she reciprocates.

[Djaay]

I disagree with that statement. It's the other way around. I dont qualify myself with anyone , although a woman will try and qualify herself to me for my attention towards her.
I see what your doing with your vocabulary.

[MzAsh]

Statistics show that men prefer to pursue a woman more than they want to be pursued by her. Being pursued is feminine. Pursuing is masculine.

[Djaay]

Chemistry is what magnatize's two together. Pursuit is just an intention to conquer with an agenda.

[MzAsh]

That’s an entirely different phenomenon.

[Djaay]

Not nessesarly...

[MzAsh]

You said yourself that you’d straight up reject any woman who approaches. Of course. Because she’d be taking on the masculine role and putting you in the feminine role. Men chase. Women choose.

[Djaay]

Yes I did say that , although for other manifested reasons other than this implication. With my wife certain sustainability and status, I have to be a very picky chooser.

[Djaay]

Life*

[MzAsh]

You’re 58. You’re not married?

[Djaay]

I'm very married. And I've never been single since I was 18 . That's another reason.

[MzAsh]

So why are you on here talking about other women approaching you?

[Djaay]

Because it happens quite often.

[MzAsh]

I’m assuming you’re rich lol

[Djaay]

You might be on to something.

[MzAsh]

Women do like that dough tho.

[Djaay]

True... although my wife now is very conservative and displays a very good steward of finances. I'm accualy alittle impressed.

[MzAsh]

No such thing as a conservative woman anymore. She’s waiting for you to kick the bucket.

[MzAsh]

My apologies. The last statement was a bit insensitive. I’m sure your lady cares for you.

[Djaay]

She earns her own monetary.

[MzAsh]

That’s good.

[ronaldo75]

Because good men these days are getting snatched up QUICK by the GOOD WOMEN. Women who play to many games and engage in too much emotional bullshit in their 20s and into their late 20s and early 30s reach an age where all the good men got snagged by the good girls. At 28, 29, 30 and older less and less GOOD MEN are single. They all got married in their 20s OR now they can sniff out the damaged women a lot better so they're waiting for the right one. As many women age they're going to find the men who are left behind for them are losers, creeps, baby daddies, divorced guys etc...

[Secret6620]

Well said 💕

[AynonOMouse]

No. I'm a good guy, but it seems like the majority of people aren't worthy. I refuse to settle for someone that is immoral or that brings next to nothing to a relationship by comparison to me. It is doubtful to even find someone that meets my standards, which shouldn't be too hard, but people are so messed up that it seems like very few could ever meet the standards and also be a worthy good girl.
My standards for a potential SO. Wow, this got really long. ↗

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[lernulo]

I think it's fake as a stament but it's true as a tendency.
There are many chances good guys who got good girls remain coupled which obviously decreases the number of good guys single.
But, still remains many good men single after it.
1. May be they got a bad girl who started a toxic relation and must leave.
2. May be he had things to do and couldn't invest the time to get a girlfriend
3. May be a nice guy transforms into a good guy and become more attractive.

So, although I see that it's more difficult, I would like to compare that level of difficulty with the normal level of difficulty of an average guy to get a girlfriend at anytime.

[EyeAmNiceGirl]

No, they aren't all taken. However, I did ruin them for you. You see, I caught their eye (one at a time), went out on a date with each one (one at a time) and then seduced them (one at a time) at the end of the date. They each came back for more, yet I rejected them all. They totally want me again, and nobody else will satisfy them. Sure, you might get one of them to date you, or even marry you, but just know it is me that they still lust for, and you will never quite get their 100% attention.

[Cleerlakesnake]

New Caney pipe rollers talk like that.

[coachTanthony]

LOL too funny

[EyeAmNiceGirl]

Glad you chuckled. Some people have no sense of humor.