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Well 50 to 60% of men in my age group are married so I assume of those men are good guys. I don't know I haven't made an effort yet really to actively date. I took the plunge to go to a 50+ meetup group thinking it was a singles group only to find out halfway through dinner that it was only an interest group open to singles and married. In my age group most meetups are dominated by women. Probably because more of us are alive and maybe some men have just dropped off the dating scene. The ratios of men to women gets worse over time 1 man to 4 but one woman told the ratio isn't that bad because a lot of women give up on dating too.A lady at the bank I go to just told me to wait until the men start divorcing. I told her that sounded a bit predatory wishing for someone's marriage to implode. I think it is all about broadening ones dating pool. Loosening up a bit on what a man should "possess". Not the big stuff but the minor stuff. Widen the ages one will date if over the age of 30. 10 years younger 10 years older. Don't just date within one's race. Even if you have to date within one's faith like you are jewish or muslim there are many people within those two religions who come from different races all over the world. Be open to a man who might be the exact opposite of who you thought you might date (within reason) That's my idea. I'll see how that works in the real world.
"Good" guys? I'm sure there's a good amount of them out their, it just depends if I / they find them attractive. I define good as nice/charming so in that sence no! They're not all "taken" BUT for me to date them I would have to find the decently attractive looks wise 1st thennn I'd see if they're "good" guys.
I'm a good guy. Definitely a man!
There’s tons of great guys out there.I suspect the majority of them are unattractive to women.I think society has taught men to be beta. As a result women are not attracted to good men anymore. Good men become beta because to follow what society tells you to do makes you beta and makes you unattractive to women.I define beta and alpha as this:Alpha: displays behaviors which attracts women.Beta: displays behaviors that repels women.Society teaches men to be beta.Society shames men for being alpha.Ultimately alpha and beta are meaningless. The real reality is women are attracted to men who express themselves fully and are comfortable in their own skin and value themselves above anyone else.This is why most men are beta now. They are riddled with social anxiety and fear of women. They are no comfortable around women nor with their own selves. Though these men are good men they don’t know how to be attractive to women while also staying within the social protocol of being a beta. You do this by becoming comfortable with yourself and around women. Relaxed easy and cool around girls. Once you can be like that women can see the good in you. If you act scared and full of anxiety they will never see you.
Oh if all guys do so, how could I differentiate ones who are very experienced with girls from ones who are actually not? I think I have learned to notice that so far. It would be good if you act what you are. Why can't a man be alpha and beta at the same time?
i dont drink, smoke, or party ever. but most of the girl are exact opposite all i do is work, and go home. i hate going places. so you dont have to worry where i have beeni dont waste money on stuff, save up $1200 every month for the last 5 years since i start working. i have like a 3 good friend and thats all i need, mostly talk on nett but do sometime hangout like once every week or 2 week. so you dont have to worry i dont have time for you.i have social anxiety, i dont talk very much, so most people find me boring and thats it.young women dont want men that have boring stable life, all they want is to party and travel and shit. could say than between them and i, have a completely opposite mind setdont even get me start on women who are superficial, all they do is dating douchbag just becuase he look attractive, and than bitching that all men are the same and where are all the good guy gone, while Chad and his gang jizzing on your face when they start to hit the wall, thats when they'll start look back, start to lower their bar. just to have someone take care of them finacialy. all guy know this and yes, Good guys are tired and have walked away
At any given time, there are. But whether a woman views them as the right guy may be a different story.
Nope they are not all taken.
naw we are just taken for granted
I second that
@SAVAGEDANK big facts
i agree with you @Pinay_ako there are many good lookin guys still out there in the world
No. I'm a good guy, but it seems like the majority of people aren't worthy. I refuse to settle for someone that is immoral or that brings next to nothing to a relationship by comparison to me. It is doubtful to even find someone that meets my standards, which shouldn't be too hard, but people are so messed up that it seems like very few could ever meet the standards and also be a worthy good girl.My standards for a potential SO. Wow, this got really long. ↗
I think it's fake as a stament but it's true as a tendency.There are many chances good guys who got good girls remain coupled which obviously decreases the number of good guys single.But, still remains many good men single after it.1. May be they got a bad girl who started a toxic relation and must leave.2. May be he had things to do and couldn't invest the time to get a girlfriend3. May be a nice guy transforms into a good guy and become more attractive.So, although I see that it's more difficult, I would like to compare that level of difficulty with the normal level of difficulty of an average guy to get a girlfriend at anytime.
I personally think if women would just lower their superficial standards just a tiny bit and give the lesser good-looking ones some wiggle-room there are plenty out there still. But then there's the obvious question; what's considered a good guy? You looking for a family-man?A cool, respectful and confident guy to party and hang out with?Or simply someone with some good conversational skills and a selfless heart? None of the suggestions above is necessarily a good-looking or overly confident guy.
Hehe I see my mistake there.. 🙈
No plenty still waiting, but almost a quarter suffer from depression, commir suicide n are just desperate to meet girls, all coz of fucking stupid social expectations that are sexist n demeaning n toxic. Give some of them a chance girls. Go nab em. 🙂😎😎😎😎😘
Until they reach your age, most females do not want good men.They want POS bad boys, because that is what excites them.Young men who have old fashioned honourable intentions, as well as good prospects, are rejected and told that they are ‘boring’, or ‘too nice’.Such men understandably become bitter, resentful and angry.It is not being rejected per se that upsets them, it is the low quality nature of the men who most young women prefer instead of them.Add being left broken hearted after the end of what relationships might happen.That toxic soup is from where the suicide and depression come.Later, when they are about your age, a significant number give up and walk away.They will not approach you. They will probably avoid talking to you, if they can.If a female sees a good quality man on the high side of 30, she is probably going to have to make the approach, because most likely he will not.
@cth96190 the same with woman. my mom was good to my father when I was growing up. she was very kind and compassionate. and my dad left her for an evil slut. he personally told me left my mom because she was supposedly too kind and generous. so it happens to both.
Well said. Go get us, ladies 😀 some of us will have our arms open for you ☺
"Good" is very subjective.Are virgin guys "good"? There are plenty here in G@G.Or are promiscuous guys good? Probably much more here.Or are Asian guys good? They could be on the shorter side but they know how to love.So you see, preferences depends on who you are. Guy who are available, plenty. Do you want them?
I'm handsome, intelligent, successful, very social. I also refuse to date any girl over 22, who is fat, or who has fucked more than 4 guys. She also better be conservative and traditional. So 99% of women are undateable and not worth my time as far as I'm concerned.
Well if girls wonder where guys like me are who are also looking for long term relationships and marriage I'm looking for my equal in terms of overall attractiveness and thats the kind of girl on my level.
There's no way of knowing what guy is good by looking at him, that can only be done by getting to know the guy better.That's what makes this question anyone's guess.I like to think there's plenty of good guys out there, the problem I have right now is being in the right place at the right time to meet a good guy.It's not that my career won't allow it to happen it doesn't make it easy that's for sure, I believe if I want something bad enough I'll do what it takes to get it.
I know a lot of us decent guys have given up. All we can find is women who are all about money, or they get whatever it is they want then they walk away. Or they feign being interested, then don't bother texting back, rather than being nice enough to just plain out say they aren't interested. Dating has become such a circus, maybe now we see why homosexuality is on the rise. Get tired of the opposite genders' crap? Look elsewhere. :) It's a new world, I guess.
I'm sure that good guys are out there. Somewhere. BUT. I bet my life they are hurt and still in love with their exes or they simply want to settle for the second best thing. And when his current girl, find out, he will be categorised in the "jerk" section. Paradox.
You don't find many good guys in bars or tinder, if that's the implied question. Change your area of attack, cause most guys I know go to bars purely to hook up. So yeah, plenty of good guys, but most don't go to bars.(Example: Try the mall or shopping places. There you have a really good chance. Unconventional, but I've met great people this way. Asking for directions is a classic opener, so give it a try!)
There are plenty of good men out there. They are with good women. High value women attract high value men.Be a high value woman.
Best advice I've heard all day and perhaps all year ^ Well said.
Excellent point! Take notes, ladies 😘
You sure emphasized your value according to yourself. Men dont chase a woman of his own value so to speak. It's the other way around where a woman claims her value to be in his league. So in your explanation , what are you accually considering a high value is for a woman?
Men qualify themselves to a woman first, then she reciprocates.
I disagree with that statement. It's the other way around. I dont qualify myself with anyone , although a woman will try and qualify herself to me for my attention towards her. I see what your doing with your vocabulary.
Statistics show that men prefer to pursue a woman more than they want to be pursued by her. Being pursued is feminine. Pursuing is masculine.
Chemistry is what magnatize's two together. Pursuit is just an intention to conquer with an agenda.
That’s an entirely different phenomenon.
You said yourself that you’d straight up reject any woman who approaches. Of course. Because she’d be taking on the masculine role and putting you in the feminine role. Men chase. Women choose.
Yes I did say that , although for other manifested reasons other than this implication. With my wife certain sustainability and status, I have to be a very picky chooser.
You’re 58. You’re not married?
I'm very married. And I've never been single since I was 18 . That's another reason.
So why are you on here talking about other women approaching you?
Because it happens quite often.
I’m assuming you’re rich lol
You might be on to something.
Women do like that dough tho.
True... although my wife now is very conservative and displays a very good steward of finances. I'm accualy alittle impressed.
No such thing as a conservative woman anymore. She’s waiting for you to kick the bucket.
My apologies. The last statement was a bit insensitive. I’m sure your lady cares for you.
She earns her own monetary.
All the good guys will be taken if your criteria for what make up a good guy is so narrow and unrealistic that such a guy does not exist.Therefore, the perception of the definition of a good guy is subjective. The level of a woman's standards is is inversely proportional to the prevalence of "good men".
I think the only taken they are is advantage of. All the "good guys" I came across are really messed up because a girl did then wrong at one point in time. A guy I currently know is in his 30s and was used so much he's simply settled for never having a family or something to really be proud of. he's such a polite guy too, its honestly sad.
No, they aren't all taken. However, I did ruin them for you. You see, I caught their eye (one at a time), went out on a date with each one (one at a time) and then seduced them (one at a time) at the end of the date. They each came back for more, yet I rejected them all. They totally want me again, and nobody else will satisfy them. Sure, you might get one of them to date you, or even marry you, but just know it is me that they still lust for, and you will never quite get their 100% attention.
New Caney pipe rollers talk like that.
LOL too funny
Glad you chuckled. Some people have no sense of humor.
Nope and I'm not even speaking for myself. I have a couple of guy friends that are single and I know they're good guys because I hang out with them often enough. And at the same time I know a few guys that's been divorced and has been single for a long time.
4 times in my life I've met girls that made me want to really try to build something special and so I approached them like a proper gentleman, I tried to get to know them and not rush into anything. None of them wanted me and I ended up alone, heartbroken, and confused.4 times I've pursued girls who were wonderful people, but I couldn't build the life I wanted with them, I approached them with shallow Intentions, flirted with them shamelessly, and had a physical relationship with them. All 4 of them confessed a desire to build a life with me. That has been the entirety of my experiences with women.Gentlemanly approach=100% failure, heartbreak, and loneliness.Flirty shallow jerk approach=100% success, happiness, and desired for relationship. What kind of person should I be? I'm so tired of trying to be the good guy just to be left alone, confused, and in pain.
Interesting. Thank you for sharing. But would it be because of your age?
How would my age change things?
If you think all good guys are taken, get your eyes fixed or better yet drop the high standards BS, specifically you own perfect fantasy dream man, It'll take you a life time to find the 100% comparable no errors mate, I get asked myself you seem like a good guy why don't you have a girlfriend? I just say I don't know, maybe the girls are the ones have the higher standards than guys
Nope, I’m still here and available. Just haven’t had any takers recently. I’m not a mind reader, you gotta step up.I’ll give everyone a try, but I do know what I’m looking for. So, if she believes she’s up for the challenge, give me a try.😁
While I am not 100% sure of the premise that all good men are taken after a certain age - Logic dictates that not every relationship lasts so therefore there will be periods when some of the "Good Guys" will be available again post a certain age.
I choose this one because not all guys are good same. Same with women some of their personalities can be the same that don't mean they want the samething. LoL which like us guys are simaler like the woman like they don't what we want sometimes and we don't know what they want. Like when it comes to money and marriage happy wife happy life do you believe that shit I wanna be happy but figure it out what you really want life besides the pettyness drama and attention.
Nope, we still out here, were still taken for granted... and most of us are still single. I have 9 other friends who are all in the same boat too... we are honestly just so tired of putting our hearts out there only to have them stepped on that we stop trying :/ such is life
Mostly B. A is HIGHLY subjective from the way many are speaking, and I doubt most of them are taken. But people like them and me are indeed hiding like good women are hiding and tired.
In my opinion a good woman has a good heart. she is kind and compassionate to everyone. whether they be rich or poor. she tries her best to be faithful in the relationship. she isn't stuck up or self centered. and she forgives and shows mercy. those woman are the ones who deserve good men. my mom was good to my father when I was growing up but he admitted to me that he wanted another woman. i would never cheat on my future partner and I would want one the same
Yes, but you have to understand that regardless of if that's a good woman or not. At the end of the day we mostly do not want to be involved in situation that goes against our upbringing and morals. For me since a lot of men especially do not want to wait until marriage to have sex anymore, why am I going to jeopardize myself because that's the way how the world wants? And then I'm told I am never going to be a good wife, mother or girlfriend because of that? I'm just asking just sick and tired of this modern dating crap and I just rather not participate in it.
Im actually waiting until marriage to have sex.
Good. Just make sure you don't get yourself involved with a person that's going to give you a lot of hell.
That's the thing though. im not even sure I wanna date. tons upon tons of men I've met tell me the same thing. don't get married all woman are evil, they control you , they only care about themselves
@jameswoodell201 You do what is best for you. While you shouldn't pay attention to everybody is evil nonsense, its best not to be naive about your prospects either. As long as you have good intentions you should be okay. I believe in only dating amongst friends you already know. Not strangers. Because if you date a stranger, you have to try to get to know this person from the ground up, and they are not entitled to tell you anything, but you are entitled to the truth. And if they refuse to open up about it, walk away. You owe them nothing.
Define "taken." With exception of one gal on this site, I'm not so much "taken" as unavailable. Not really with anyone, just have a lot to sort out before giving another girl a chance. The last five years, I've felt like a cat in a dryer.
Here's how it works: Good guys get snapped up FAST if the good guys are actually looking. Now, if you're one of those whiny little shits who likes to think he's a "good guy" but no woman actually is interested, you're not a good guy, you're the stereotype "nice guy".
I’m one of the good guys. I’ve somewhat gotten out of the dating game to a degree. I’m open to it, but not just to date anyone.
I know a lot of good guys who won't even look at, let alone talk to a woman anymore. Women love to pat themselves on the back for having impossibly high standards, but when a man has high standards, women are the first ones to attack him for it.
good guys don't want bullshit, games, lies, agendas, or whatever females have given us. so we don't really know what a "good girl" is. i'd rather enjoy life on my own and play a game i can win.
I mean, I'm gonna say the typical "I'd like to consider myself a good guy" comment and I wasn't taken a year ago. There are tons of good people in general out there. The trouble for most people is finding someone not only "good", but someone that has chemistry with them... similar interests, views, sense of humor, etc.
To say "all" is a vast exaggeration. The good ones need to find a good girl for them. Not all of them have. Just because a guy is good doesn't mean he found someone worthy of him.
I believe there are some good guys left. But you or anyone for that matter need to act fast. Good guys are “the lames” of today from societies standard. And to be shunned from “normal life” is a hard thing to do. Some of them get helplessly depressed and, some adapts to the “pimp/player” persona. From that stand point I say don’t wait for the lake to be a pond. “Get fishing”
Nope were just sitting here not caring because there's too many fake women out there who like to mess with our feelings. And what's the best way to not have your feelings messed with well don't give women the opportunity.
people have at their morals truth be told everyone is ro blame. Parents, teachers, culture, society, etc. Also I hate to say this. It the environment matters too. You lick yo men or women at a bar it's like what do you expect?
There is a tendency among women, statistically born out, for women to go after the irresponsible, fun bad boy type, when they are younger. Later when they want to settle down with a more responsible guy, when they are finally willing have a serious, long term relationship with a guy, they find that these guys are already in relationships.
Not all but you won’t find the good ones in bars and clubs. You have to go way deeper which is why so many women don’t even bother. We are so conditioned to instant gratification.
Your right. .
There are good guys that go to bars occasionally as well. You can find good people wherever you are.
Yeah... but that’s definitely not the first place I look.
@Ayer93 oh yeha ! I’d still be careful.
Hmmmm...If "good" = "conservative" then true, not in bars and pubs. Visit churches instead.But if '"good" = "experienced, great in bed", then actually bars and clubs are their playground.
Going to churches doesn't make you a good person. Drinking doesn't make you a bad person. Everyone has their stress relievers and it's completely okay to drink once in a while. Just because you go to a bar doesn't make you a fuckboy that's great in bed and great with the ladies. Bars do tend to attract a less intelligent crowd, however that doesn't mean good guys and girls aren't occasionally curious to try it out or feel something drawing them back to it, whether it's lonliness, hope tagging along for a friend's sake or event (like a birthday) or some other aspect. Wherever you go, you'd be lucky to find someone with similar interests, views, sense of humor, etc. So always keep your eyes peeled. That's all I'm saying.
@Ayer93 of course. There are may cases that "good guys" are seen in more "questional" places and likewise, many "bad guys", even real criminals visit the church.But just saying in general, birds of the same feathers flock together.
Look, all I’m saying is that if I’m looking for someone who is looking for more than sex, treat me right, or have a great conversation with, the club won’t be the first thing that pops into my head to look. I understand that you can find good people everywhere but they are typically less frequent at the bars.
Women know when they get a good guy and try to hold onto him. So while there may be good guys out there at your age there aren't that many because women want a good guy as a life partner.
Yes. I think that most single women today have no choice but :
Yes and I'll release them all once my demands have been met!
Nope All the good guys are not taken , they've got sick of the dating scene BS and decided its not worth the effort especially after the #METOO #BELIVEHER fiascos, where now men have a virtually permanent bully’s-eye on them even when they have done no wrong.
There are guys who are simply not attractive enough or took the red pill.
Don't think so... there are a lot of good guys out there who are not considered attractive, so they're single🤷♀️
I look and have beautiful women, I am just ordinary. But I have always found a good decent beautiful woman. But I can win them over easily. I would like to think I am a good man. Never cheated on my wife or girlfriends. I provide because I can for most of our living expenses. When I am short my wife gives me her money. Men be honest with your wife, mine is 36 20 34. She is still all I want, women look after yourself, look good when he comes home from work, greet him like he is your husband. Fulfill his basic needs love attention and lots of sex.
SO WHY DO GOOD GIRLS LIKE BAD GUYS? I HAD THIS QUESTION FOR A REAL LONG TIME! Good guys exist within the 7 billion of us. What a shocker
No I disagree with that statement I know plenty of disloyal men in relationships same goes for women too. .Though thankfully I have found myself a top man, though I had to go on a fair few dates to find him. It was definitely worth the wait!
There’s still some good ones. You just have to take your time finding him. I know it’s like trying to find a needle in a hay stack. You’ll know it when & if you find him. Don’t rush into anything either.
There are so many good guys out there 😭😭😭. You just have to give shy guys a chance.
There are good guys out there but many of them are heart broken from women ghosting them, leading them on and cheating on them. And I scared them all because I was pursuing them and being by their side. When they weren’t ready and needed healing. Don’t rush anything, be patient with their time and go with the flow.
Girls don't ever take a guys time into consideration. Like for instance leading him on making him think she's going to go on a second date with him by continuing to respond to texts, then ignoring his request for a second date.
Wasn’t the problem exactly that good guys are never chosen?
Because my dear, I happen to be one of the good guys and iv been good enough to fill 4 prams and there for, are 4 beings in my life that will tell you there's at least 1 out there? Cum find me? I'm not hiding, I'm right here infront of you x
Handsome, intelligent and charming - those men are already in relationships
Not all of us are. It takes a wonderful girl to get one.
How does what a man looks like make him good? Isn’t good a personality trait? Same as intelligent. Has nothing to do with being a good man or not.
@Kaazsz "a good man" doesn't specify what is he good at. I interpret good as a good relationship material. And a guy obviously isn't a relationship material when he isn't hot enough for me to get turned on by his sight in order to have sex
I think of a good man as something very different.
No, a lot of those young men will not be in relationships.I was all those things when I was in your age range and I was a borderline incel/TFL.Girls wanted the sociopathic bad boys, because for them scumbags and knuckle draggers were ‘exciting’.Most of the ‘good men’ I knew were in a similar situation: could almost not get a date.After enough years of being Friend Zoned and/or being told that they are “too nice”, or that “there will be someone for you”, a significant number of those men give up and walk away.
@cth96190 I don't know and have never even heard about a single man who really is handsome and can't get any girls. Men just don't know who is handsome and who isn't from my experience
Physical appearance isn't enough for guys. Unless they look like Thor of course.
You sound fat, maybe lose the extra slab anf you'll notice me. Will come for you
@Fuentes you sound triggered. Maybe get over the fact that not only men want hotties, women are no different
I am single and handsome. Girls have been chasing me my whole life.But I had a horrible childhood. I have social anxiety like you wouldn’t believe.Girls approach me. Girls ask me for my number. Fat girls are constantly approaching me lol. When I go to bars and clubs, girls start conversations with me. Girls approach me. LDespite all this, I’m absolutely terrible with women. Lately I’ve been doing a lot better. Basically, I learned women want players so now I’m kinda sorta acting like one.I’m just trying to be myself. But women want an aggressive guy who grabs you and takes you home. I don’t feel comfortable doing that. I’ve done it. And it works. But I still can’t feel like it’s right. Tobasically act like a rapist. Even though I never would force a girl to do anything, and they come along very willingly if I do this.Something deep down inside me tells me I’m a sick rapist man. A horny mindless animal that rapes women. And I don’t want women to think that of me. But to get girls you have to basically act like this. Of course it’s always consensual but I hate that I have to act so aggressively. Otherwise girls don’t want you. Even though they’re coming up to me, they are hoping I’m that kind of guy. Cuz I’m good looking and y’all and have a nice. Body. They ant me to dominate them and I don’t want to have to be like that. But the girls I like are all like this.
Your dislikes say otherwise
@Fuentes Lol like I give a fuck about them. And they are only admitting what I said. Men are pissed off that women can want physicall attractiveness from a man and wouldn't fuck an ugly guy with that great personality of his
I know but your not a attractive women, so im telling you that you don't need to worry about that
@Fuentes You don't know shit about me. What's my name, how do I look, where do I live. I may be a fat guy or I may be a tall slim woman. Or I may be a 12 year old child. I would really think before assuming stuff about strangers you don't know. It reveals stupidity
By how triggered you've become tells me you're just not attractive and also by your comment that they're no attractive men around just shows your own excuse for again being unattractive, i don't need to put two & two together to see that
Good guys -and good girls for that matter - ARE out there - - - just have to be patient and search them out.
I think the better question is,Why do good girls like bad guys? I've had this question for a really long time. I've been a bad boy and it's plain to see. So why do good girls fall in love with me?
Hell no! I'm still available! Besides, girls have no clue HOW to spot the good ones!!
Nope, but there are just good guys that are ugly, so they don't get any girls... 😢
No, not by a long stretch. I've worked with a lot of single guys who have good jobs, aren't bad looking, but aren't in a relationship.
no most likely u or the girl dated a good guy already and brokeup with them over a petty reason or for there ex
Of course not. But in order to land one the woman needs to develop your value, bring something of high value to the relationship. Most have never even pondered it, simply assuming if they show up with their golden vagina they're , well, golden. ;)
Define "good guy" do you mean a man that can give a women what she wants (female definition of good guy) or do you mean an actuall morally upright guy?
I don't understand this logic that the good ones are taken. All the good ones were single before they were taken. Of course they all aren't. For as long as men exist, there will be single ones.
I keep getting told I'm a good guy and I get dumped for an asshole.. ☹️
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