Fist it’s a double standard, Have you ever heard a man being described as a ‘hottie-digger’? No. Seemingly, it’s acceptable for men to value women for their looks. Men want beautiful women – or as beautiful as they can get. Yet, when women value men for their financial soundness, we’re described as gold-diggers. I think that is completely unfair. What’s good for the goose should be good for the gander, and if men are allowed to value something as shallow as the size of our butts, then we should be allowed to value something as shallow as the size of their bank accounts.
We have a word for men who value women for only their looks. We call them shallow. And no one wants a shallow guy.
A relationship is more than money and looks. If you're a shallow man then you are valuing a woman for only her looks, which means that without her appearance she is nothing to you, which is extremely disrespectful to a person. Same way dear, you don't love men, you just love their money and God forbid if anything bad ever happens and they get broke you won't be there to provide them support that they need, you will simply leave them. And that is unfair to men.
We all deserve a partner that sticks with us for the rest of our lives. I'm gonna sleep with my man under one roof for the rest of my life and it can't be someone that I know will leave me when I don't look as pretty anymore or his personal preference change. Plus, my future kids deserve a better father, and so do they deserve a mother who can be better than just a gold digger. Kids deserve being raised in a healthy dynamic family, and not a fragile structure that can break from something like unemployment or weight gain.
Does it mean that one can't value things like good looks and wealth? Of course not, we all value then and desire them, but there problem arises when it's a priority over some more important things in life. One who doesn't understand the importance of things other than looks and money aren't qualified for a relationship. Looks and money are very temporary, you can lose them in a split second.
But hey, you never even been in a relationship, you have been dating ATM booths by the name of relationship that doesn't count to me, so I guess no use of telling you all this. 🤷
As a woman it’s just as degrading to know men only like you for you looks and really could care less about the type of woman you are. I’m a pretty shitty woman I won’t sit up here and lie but I’ve seen men stick to me like some glue and I know it’s because I’m I guess pretty and now that I’m older I know I have a pretty big butt. I feel like I would have more to offer than my looks and body but guys typically don’t actually care they’ll stick around regardless of how you treat them or what you say. Men are shallow for the most part I rarely meet guys who actually get to know me on a personal level and who aren’t just kissing my ass trying to impress me all day and following me around like a lost puppy 🐶. You know what it’s sad asfk and dehumanizing it’s shallow asfk too if I choose to go after a man for his wallet and looks SO what it’s just as shallow as someone not even knowing me but still sticking to me for my looks nothing more. Fuck that I rather use men like that than love them I treat good men who get to know me fr good only period the rest you nothing but a man with some money 💰
You are so wrong. Valuing a man for financial success is not the same thing as a gold digger.
Ok I'm very well off. And i think of girls in 3 categories when i date them:
1. Independent. Wants to have her own money and would never let me provide much of anything for her. This is not fun. I worked hard to be where I am and i want to share it with you. I also want to be acknowledged and respected for my success. I dont date these girls.
2. Gold digger. This girl feels entitled to money. Its not that she's attracted to me for my success but she literally just sees me as a wallet and that she deserves it. Undateable again.
3. Ideal girl. She is attracted to successful men and does not date bums because she is worth more than that. But she respects me for being successful and does not feel or act entitled but she is instead appreciative. She doesn't reqiure i spend money on her. Simply having the money is good. Im stable. But she's down to earth and knows i am not a wallet. A walk in the park or a simple low key dinner is all she ever expects because she knows IT IS NOT HER MONEY. She also intends to compliment me by providing equal value but in other ways, typically she's someone who reciprocates value by being a excellent home maker and mom because that is very valuable to a man. Unlike a gold digger who thinks just sex or her company is value which it is not.
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Sorry but when you marry someone then the both of you become one. If her pussy is yours, your money belong to her as well. Especially if she take care of The kids and do the housework
And this is exactly what im talking about. Thats the attitude i find disgusting that would make me want to keep you as far from my money as possible. The girl who doesn't act entitled makes men want to pay for her. The girl who acts entitled makes men not want to pay for her. Its that simple.
That's also in marriage there is more access I agree but still she isn't the one in primary control of the money, just like she may make more decisions about the children or the house. But when dating, do you have sex on the first date? Why should you be entitled to money on the first date then? Even one tiny demand about money at any point and I would drop the girl asap. My current girlfriend offers to pay and split things all the time, of which I never allow her. She says we can stay in or go to a modest place to eat but then im just so impressed by that request I will want to take her someplace fancy. Its my money to do with as I please and she respects that.
There is a difference between your two examples. No one expects anyone to want to be in a relationship with someone they find unnatractive. Men valuing women for being attractive isn’t bad, same goes for women valuing men for being attractive. And valuing a partner for financial stability isn’t the same as being a gold digger. A good digger doesn’t value their partners financial stability. They want their partners money. And traditionally the only reason a gold digger is involved with a man is for his money. That’s what makes it bad. They’re not valuing the man for what they are, they’re valuing them by what they have. And don’t give me that crap about men not being attacked for only valuing a woman’s appearance, that literally happens all the time. Yes there are men who only value women for their looks, but that’s not seen as a good thing. And it shouldn’t be seen as a good thing for women to only value men for their money. Why can’t we all just agree that we should value each other as people.
I can tell you from experience a lot of guys who think they don't like a larger posterior are probably guys who have just never been with a girl with a large posterior.
@Cocacolaaddict She probably dates the same kind of guys so she sees some consistency in how they act and then overgeneralizes and assumes that all men are like the ones she dates. Very common mistake made by both sexes.
@Shuri I asked you if you believes that "ALL men prefer big butts?" You never responded to that question. It is reasonable to assume that if you don't respond to the question, then you don't disagree.
Okay, some guys like big butts and some don't. So what? Some guys are shallow and some aren't; some women are shallow and some aren't. So therefore it''s okay for girls to be shallow? Is that the best reason to support women being gold diggers?
That's actually not reasonable lol. What the fuck school did you go to that led you to think that?
And I did respond. I said 'a lot of guys'. Using 2nd grade reading comprehension schools, you should know 'a lot' and 'all' are not the same, therefore, I disagree.
I don't really care if people are shallow so long as the other person doesn't mind them being shallow. I care if they're using someone. There's a difference between using someone and entering in a mutual agreement. Some women don't mind being a side piece. Some guys don't mind paying for arm candy and pussy. I say do you boo. Life is short. Do what makes you happy as long as you aren't hurting someone else.
@Cocacolaaddict You didn't understand my text if you think 'all' and 'a lot' are the same thing.
@Shuri oh so your a grammer Nazi are you? Lol the grammer police has arrived I'll spell how m8 because I could really care less if my spelling is A perfect
@Cocacolaaddict Well, Grammar Nazi's correct all your errors. I just pointed out that you made (and continue to make) a lot of them. That doesn't make me a Grammar Nazi. It makes me an educated person.
Putting them up for adoption doesn't guarantee they won't attend your school. The name, please?
@Shuri exactly because you seem to think that spelling makes you smart your just overcompensating and it really shows if your logic of a smart person is someone who is perfect at everything then by your logic Albert Einstein was an idiot because he didn't even maintain proper hygiene because all of his intellect went into the other side of his brain meaning not being good at everything dosent make you stupid just like having everything right doesn't make you smart which is evident here
@Shuri Who'd want to fuck a talentless fat arsed Kardashian who's only "talent is having an ugly fat arse. (Along with my previous responces on similar topics).
What's wrong with pretending to care about someone and sobbing your pussy on a cock in exchange for someone to pay for the fact that you don't want to have a real job and contribute to society?
Also, you say this as though women don't value men for their appearance. We do. But their appearance is an attraction - wanting money for your light bill is monetary.
I agree! Women want security and men want to sow their seed! That’s natural! However falling in love is what matters and whilst money can be attractive the relationship won’t last and you’re hear just once! So I choose love! What is a shame is when a girl is in love with a multi millionaire yet no one believes them! Swings and roundabouts
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Take Miranda Kerr for example lol. She married a billionaire and everyone is labeling her as a shallow gold digger, while she’s a vs model. They can love each other dearly, but peoples claim that she would never look at him if he wasn’t rich, so she is a mean gold digger , while it’s also the same with him, because I SINCERELY doubt he would marry her if she wasn’t a supermodel
The same way you can acuse her of marrying him for money you can acuse him of marrying her for her looks. Chances are even if they love each other him being rich and her being beautiful helped for sure. To say that one is less shalow than the other is just assumption.
Thisismyopinion finally a really good guy who’s fair. It remind me of the quote of Marilyn Monroe : don’t you know that a man being rich is like a girl being pretty? You might not marry a girl JUST because she is pretty, but my goodness doesn’t it help?
I still don't think either think is a very good idea. You know the avergae guy, that doesn't have that much money can still be a victim of a gold digger. The responses you are getting from guys reflect that. They imagine themselves marrying a girl and then losing everything.
Usually rich men go for younger glamorous looking goldiggers. She's using him for financial gain, and he's using her as a trophy on his arm and for her body. So they're both using each other . I don't know what the issue is about people hating goldiggers. He's just as bad as her really.
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Everything you said is completely true. Dating for both looks and money is shallow. However, one is seen as acceptable where the other is not. Makes no sense right? Welcome to the world where whatever a man does is seen as acceptable yet what women do is shamed and condemned and all hell breaks loose. What a double standard.
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Yep. It's like women do not deserve to do better only men do. Double Standards are real. Women have to be ride or die otherwise they are gold diggers. That is bullshit. Say no to broke asses and always upgrade when the opportunity presents itself. Men want the prettiest women they can get with no apologies. Are they beauty diggers? Ride or die is foolishness bcz when roles are reversed men don't ride or die. They upgrade. You will support him through his poverty then when he makes it he will leave you for a better woman. A gold digger he could not afford when you were ride or dying with him. Don't be deceived there's No respect for ride or die unless you are his mother.
I have literally never heard of a term called “beauty diggers.” However, physical beauty has been out in existence long before money. That speaks for itself. Honestly, at this point I think women should just do whatever the fuck they want because we will always be judged no matter what we do. Good or bad. So let’s move on and live our lives however we want to without giving 0 fucks of what other people think. The whole world is shallow and people work to further themselves in life so why should we hold back?
Women also have sex eith guys they like only for their looks just less often, the problem is that a golddigger in my eyes is just a robber. If you date someone without them knowing you only do it for money, your disgusting. If you have a sugar daddy then ofc go ahead.
First both a men with a much younger and pretty wife and a women with a much older rich husband will be judge I can tell you that.
Second issue here is that she can divource him and take his money with her. She can just marry and then wave goodbye richer than ever together with all the stuff he gave her until then. What does he get after that? Can he do anything similar? It's a far more risky situation for us to be with a gold digger then for a women to be with a sugar daddy.
"always upgrade when the opportunity presents itself"? So no matter how much you love the guy, if another with more money comes and wants you screw the guy you love I am going for the other now? Wow. Men don't leave their wifes just because a more pretty women came along.
I don’t ask to upgrade when you’re in a relationship but when we are single. And we know more cases of men leaving their wives and kids for younger prettier women than women leaving their family for richer men.
I disagree with desiring someone only to please some selfish motivation, be it sexual or financial.
Men however - have a habit of WANTING TO GIVE US SHIT.
It's like they automatically have to brag about their job (or hide it if they dont feel it's good enough,) get the bill, buy you gifts, pay your bills, fix your stuff... or outright give you money.
Dude dropped 1200.00 at me during vacation, because he wanted to "see me happy."
No.
He was completely flexing on the other men interested in me, to prove he was the better provider.
I gave it back of course lol - I am waaaaay to proud to be bought.
And I'm sure 1200.00 is kinda cheap for a human 🤣🤣🤣
No, it's degenerative and just a pathetic excuse to manipulate others. I don't like gold diggers because they exploit a man only for his pay check and maybe she might like the guy, but that woman in the relationship would only be there for the money really in the end if she's a gold digger, not him.
You're practically just arguing here "He finds me attractive so that means I can only use him for his money!" It's a bullshit excuse to just use someone for your personal gain. Even if the guy is an asshole and shallow you're no worse than him and even worse because he's at least honest about himself being one. Also, not all wealthy men are shallow or assholes, so you could just be using someone that loves you and is a decent person.
Valueing money on some level in a relationship is okay as having an income due to a job usually shows you're not lazy and you're willing to work. That's attractive, but to have your relationship only based on money is just selfish and superficial.
Here’s the thing. If it’s fair for you to drop a guy because you find another guy who makes more money then it’s fair for us to dump you because we find a woman who stays in better shape than you, right? See you’re saying that your value is literally in your azzz & his value is in his bank account. When I deal with a woman who thinks like this I keep what I just said in mind. With a woman who values more then I will value more in her.
If you want to be a digger you better never get lazy. Eventually you’ll be old and competing with women leas than half your age. That ain’t easy. Only a few women can pull it off.
The reason men aren’t called gold diggers is because it’s rare and/or deeply shameful for a man to live off of a woman. But women brag about fleecing men and celebrated the movie Pretty Women which was about a hooker getting paid lots of cash.
I find many girls described as hottie as stuck up ladies who can't appreciate people who can't benefit them. While not all hotties are bitchy and not all hotties are gold diggers, I find myself hard to find hotties who knows how to respect themselves while maintaining wide social circle with various types of friends and relations as well as positive attitude.
I had never wanted beautiful women more than I want understanding women with good head on their brains and generous heart.
I work my whole life to build a solid foundation to stand on. One girl comes along and starts leaching off my kingdom. I divorce said girl and she takes HALF of everything I've ever worked for.
A girl goes to the gym a few times a week and stays healthy. She makes herself look nice. What do I have to gain from her other than she's pretty?
The double standard is girls get to live a life of luxury for doing nothing and complain about how hard they worked to get there. Unless you're working a 9-5 making 50%+ of the household income, I don't wanna hear it. Girls who do nothing and get everything have no reason to point fingers about who abuses a double standard.
I'm honestly having a hard time agreeing. Money isn't that important for me. I don't know maybe because seeing my parents still together and working together when we were homeless seeing their love grow stronger by working together to own a home while we had food and staying in hotels made me realise that if you truly love someone money isn't that important. So many people told my dad how lucky he is. People has told my mom ( especially from family and even his ) to leave my dad because they blame him for what happened but my mom still stayed by his side. So for a girl to be with someone just because of his money seems wrong to me. But yes some Men will date women because of how our body is shaped and how we look but it doesn't mean we have drop down to their level.
I always thought the idea of someone considering financial value in a person as much more shallow than someone considering aesthetic value in a person. Obviously there's importance in considering financial stability for a relationship, however it's such a terrible thing to use as a lone judgement on a person.
Now obviously, I don't feel either are a good way to judge whether you're interested in a long term relationship with a person. However, I would definitely have to say that considering physical attraction is most certainly less "shallow" than considering someone's worldly possessions. In one, there's at least interest for the person, while the other is just interest in their stuff and it wouldn't have mattered if the person was actually there or not as long as the possessions remained.
Physical attraction is just an initial interest, and unless the stars align, you will not see a successful and fulfilling long term relationship without other important aspects in said person.
I don't think anything is wrong with these relationships as long as they're consensual and both understand what's going on. I will say though, in these relationships you also can't be upset by the dark side of them.
Such as the woman (or Male gold diggers) being treated like an object because, no offense, but if someone spends a shit ton of money on you. Unless they specifically asked for certain things, they most likely want you to shut up and be their possession to do with as they please. After all, they're paying for that type of power.
So sometimes that means a 10k necklace costs you anal at 3am because they're horny and can't go to sleep. That means you have to get them food and take care of them like your master almost. Or sugar daddy or whatever the hell they are to you because thsts what they're paying you for. As long as you understand you'll be sacrificing parts of your time and self for money. As well as how people view you, I think it's fine.
Both genders have Gold Diggers but for men they are called Gigolos and because of a Richard Gere movie in the 80s Gigolos are considered a sexy thing. As always double standard, rich dude is high fived for getting hot Gold Digger where rich woman is ostracized for getting a Hot Gigolo aka Male Gold Digger. Both sides go into it knowing the deal so if they don't mind others shouldn't care but society likes to shame women or everything!!!
For all the guys saying she is generalizing all guys, how many guys on this site do this in every question, opinion, post? Many of the guys and gals on here and in life generalize based on what they see and usually the people they choose to date and unless you wake-up look in the mirror fix yourself you are still going to be a loser in the Romance Dept because you have a Broken Mate Picker!!!
What's so wrong with pimping hos? There's nothing wrong with renting them out by the hour to other men and smacking the shit out of them when they don't have your money right? Women want money and men want money. There's no problem using them for money, women want it too... Bitch better have my money!
Awwww yes. It is the feminist movement, or what it has become. Shaming women for doing what is natural: finding a wealthy/productive man that can provide both for her, and her children.
It is no longer acceptable to have that view, and women that do it, and gold diggers. Simple as that. Bullshit. The feminist movement today attacks all sexes, degrading the necessary gender roles that have been in place for eons in all western civilizations, and it's worked out damn well all that time.
And now look at us. The average individual is getting lazier, and less productive as social movement progress.
Well, the thing is about deception. When you go on sites that specifically match you with sugar daddies and so on, both people understand what kind of arrangement we are talking about. When a guy wants a girl only for her looks it is easily seen as well but gold diggers are pretenders and liars, they manipulate and use other people and then leave them with nothing.
Remember, men pursue mates driven by beauty and fertility; women pursue mates driven by social-economic.
Based on this hypothesis, a very young exceedingly beautiful woman has many options to choose the mate with the highest social-economic status.
This is why it's stereotypical to see a super hot young women on the arm of an older very rich man. He's pursing is ability to aquire youth beauty and fertility, while she's pursuing her ability to achieve greater social-economic status. This kind of arrangement is frequently common.
So okay tell me how it's fulfilling to sleep under one roof with a person for the rest of your life knowing that the person is going to dump you the moment you're no more as rich or as attractive.
No most women date guys find attractive who are good looking this is why many engineer are incel even through they have money they are still ugly most women themselves have money.
men wants beauty women but they don't want to spend anything for them after marriage. they want something like before marriage. the pretty girl always pretty everytime they met. so the men expect the women be like in old time. always pretty. in fact she depend on him financially after marriage. without money after marriage, she can't be pretty. because no money, we can't buy pretty clothes and we can't buy makeup and skin care products. guys thinks pretty women are like an angel. stay pretty till they die. they didn't realize their girlfriend are pretty Because the girls' parents. guys are idiot.
You are assuming that she is one of those graduated students that can't find a job. But let's say that she doesn't buy makeup or nice dresses. So what? She can still find a goog guy. We are attracted to more than plastic beauty you knw?
Both men and women can get bored in a relationship. People just suck! I like to see my fiancee with makeup, but I couldn't care less if she was it one all the time or not. To me even right after she wakes up she is the most beautiful girl alive.
No she is not. I live with her I see when she puts it on. I know she leaves the house always with some base, but after shower if we stay inside just chilling she doesn't wear any. Still gorgeous to me.
It's called getting a job to keep yourself looking good, you shouldn't be looking for gifts, he should get you stuff on holidays and sometimes in between, inanimate objects can't cuddle you at night, make up doesn't always make you look good either
First don't label every guy you meet as a bad guy. If you find him interesting get to know him. If he is a good guy then JACKPOT! If he is bad dump him!
@ThisIsMyOpinion last time, I found this guy since a few years ago. we have been friends for years. and last year he made Instagram account. and he flirts every girls there. he said they are only new friends.. so how can I label every guys are good guy? after a few years, I finally know the real him. and other guys just kept asking me sexts and nudes.
@Cocacolaaddict before I called them trash. they already did bad things to me. so why i can't call them trash? they looked at me as sexual object, why I can't call them trash?
Opinion owner when you look at a potential partner you look to see if he's stable right? Got a job can provide for you? Your literally doing exact same thing as what those men are doing to you except your calling them trash money is just the female equivalent of looks to a guy
@Cocacolaaddict Because the ones that hurted her called themselves decent human beings. Again she is just hurt, give her a break. I have been talking to her for a while now and I can tell she is not a men hater.
@ThisIsMyOpinion well she sounds like one oh iv had many covos with feminists/man haters I know how they think of men but I think your right her demeaner does seem a little different I will say that much
@ThisIsMyOpinion no no I understand I would probably do the same in your shoes but when you call people trash people are bound to lash out if I said women are trash or nice girls are trash it would rightfully spark their ire I'm a christian man and I consider myself decent I wouldn't call myself good because I have plenty of bad which manifests especially when somebody sparks my ire but I try my best to be decent and she's basically saying I'm trash because of some people that hurt her that isn't me
The main problem here is that she can take his money with her after she ends the relationship, but he can't take her body with him after that. That is why this is a problem, because she can just marry the guy, strip him of what he has right after and that was that end of story. The guy has no way to prevent this nor can he do anything similar.
Another reason is, she is using him for money and he is using her for sex. So one in giving something that just involves a pleasure moment and the other is giving what took him years, sweat and blood to get.
Finally what if the guy is good looking and has money? She has both things while he only has her looks. He is giving much more than she does.
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I view a gold-digger as someone who uses another person for their money. Like, they dont actually love them and are only in it for the cash. So I view gold-diggers as being bad, there’s nothing sexist about it. If a guy was doing the same thing, it would be bad as well. “Hottie-diggers” aren’t a thing. If you find someone attractive, then you are attracted to them. Gold-diggers aren’t attracted to them, they are attracted to the money. Simply valuing money is different from using someone just to get your hands on their money.
Woman are shallow for looks aswell, not saying that all of yous do but there is a good amount of yous. And i think its stupid as fuck to go into a relationship just because the guy can buy you nice things, your not in love with the guy you in love with the money, at least the guy who goes for looks loves something that comes to you naturally, and not something you dont get until you hit a job that requires you to work 60+ hours a week. Both types are shallow as fuck and i would hate to be in a relationship because of my wealth and not for my looks/ personality.
Nothing is bad about it. I dont u understand the men that keep them around just pay the whore and let her go. If you want family date rich woman or woman on your level. But usyay the only thing gold digger has to offer pussy24/7 when I want it and hot body.
I couldn't keep a chick around me like that here take this cash and be my slut for few hours. But if that's the case I rather fuck a porn star .
Gold digger and sugar baby enabling men are just lonely dudes who can't really fuck and want some friends not even female companionship just friends
This is a controversial subject. There is even salty girls here complaining about the double standard. I don't have nothing against the girl that do this. I have against the men that go for them. I think they are stupid has hell.
Would you get salty if a man wanted you for your money? Or if he wanted to just fuck you because he was horny? Or if he wanted to get over his ex? Would this make you salty?
And also, it's very different for a man to want a woman for her body than a woman to want a man for his looks.
A woman can get her own money by getting a job etc, a man can't create pussy out of nowhere.
If this post makes a guys 'salty' they have all the right in the world.
@ThisGuyDucks men consistently try and reach way out of their league. They could get an average girl. Just like women could get a man with a median-income
@ThisGuyDucks do not confuse me with asker. I openly said I do not condone gold digging, or pursuing a girl just for her looks. Average looking/ugly looking women do NOT have men running after them, lol
Of guys average looking women attract turn out to be ugly, and when he match her look he always turn out to be broke because he don’t stand a chance with women on his league. That’s usually for that that when a good looking man date an average looking woman peoples get as surprised as is they saw an alien
Are you saying a good looking guy can't get a girl his league unless he isn't broke? That is not true. If it was then every girl in the world would just be thirsty for money and nothing more.
Emily2375 are u The typical ( I’m not like the other girls) type? Stop bashing your own gender to look special. I doubt you would reject a rich man lol
@asker let women have different opinions without you trying to shut them down. You're a cash hungry prostitute doesn't mean every other woman is. Some woman want actual relationships with men.
@Rangers Oh dear. You again, the guy who thinks telling the cops about a death threat is snitching. (Good) Women have compassion, intelligence, their own financial benefits to bring to the table, the ability to have children.
Their compassion is shown very well through their absence of remorse for doing nothing but deceiving and using men for money. Their intelligence... I don't think I need to even go there. Financial benefits? You mean the stuff they don't share but the guys have to? Children are super draining in every way.
I disagree profoundly. The terms explain everything wrong with being a gold-digger rather than being a hottie-digger. A gold-digger is a person dating someone they don't have feelings for but they date them for their money while hottie-diggers have actual feelings for the person they're dating but search for a person that looks better because that's what gets them going.
The hottie-digger is as common with both and female's tends to lie about it to not get caught.
Gold diggers are usually not honest about what they are doing, puts up drama if someone mention it or confront it. they doesn't stand for what they are doing, shows signals that they have internal conflicts what they are doing is a bad thing. There's the problem! Also that it's the same as luxurity prostitution, give sex to get things.
Couldn't care less about if both parties are okay with it and are cristal clear about it. People have their thing's they like.
First of all, shallow relationships are actually not relationships, they are agreements. A gold digger relationship is an agreement between a rich guy/girl and a hot guy/girl where one provides money and other provides sex! You need to understand that money and sex aren't the end of the world. Most female sugar babies are emotionally unsatisfied like all the time. Plus, an agreement can be terminated at will. If I am a sugar daddy and you're a sugar baby and I found someone hotter, I'll leave you. That's not a relationship, that's an agreement.
If you are cultural and respect your virginity and wait till marriage before sex then you'll see the true meaning of relationships. Tho mordern day dating is a sex agreement between two friends who agree to lie each other and sat that they love each so yeah! You're correct.
Except even marriage was historically based in traditions of paying for the bride or groom and trying to find wealthy partners. It has nothing to do with virginity.
Are you dumb? Marriage was based in traditions of raising a family and keeping the generation alive in the best way! And study has proven that as the number of sex partners increase, the chances of getting divorce also increase.
A gold digger is no better than a ho. Gold digging is a form of objectification and dishonesty; if you hate a person's guts, his money will not suddenly make him likeable. It can be said to be a type of social irresponsibility, in that you are seeking wealth to which you are not entitled and which is not really yours since you did not legitimately work for it. Since gold diggers' marriages often end with divorces that prove very expensive for the other individual, gold digging is a form of stealing. Gold diggers usually have nothing of value to offer to the other person, since real love doesn't exist there anyway.
If my wife were to die, I would eventually find a nice HOT 21-year-old, who I could lust after and provide me as much sex as I wanted. My needs are simple, I earned the money my only real love has died, now I must go find some women with children 30 kg oversize and live with that. NO NO NO I have had a vasectomy, men always end up paying for sex, even worse when you are married. So I will pay for what I want, not what you lot of fat old women think, it is MY money and I can spend it any way I like. That's why you don't like it you lot want to tell me who I can fuck LOL LOL LOL
I don't think anything good ever comes from being with someone for shallow reasons, be it money or looks. I also don't agree with the statement that it's okay for men to pursue women for looks but not for women to pursue men for money, I think both get an equal amount of criticism for being with someone for either of those reasons.
They are lousy when it comes to loyalty, as soon as old man Lester looses him bank, she wanders off denies ever liking him in the first place. They are essentially con-artists who live as a parasite leeching of other people. Overall it involves lying, manipulating, disloyalty and self-indulgence which are all the traits of someone I despise, especially disloyalty.
If a woman is 100% honest and up-front about it, I have no problem with gold-diggers. It's the evil bitches who pretend they want "love" but only manage to see rich men as being capable of giving "love", that I hate.
Of course, once they've turned into old hags (say about age 35--the shelf life of a gold-digger is VERY short), they don't get to whine. They had better have locked something up by then.
Note that a gold-digger turns into an old hag at a MUCH younger age than do many other types of women. The sweeter her soul, the longer her shelf life. I've met women in their 70s who were still lovely (and some were still even a bit hot). Every one of them had the sweetest nature and demeanor.
@wolfcat87, the men must be already on life support machines or those women must be world-class cum-guzzlers. The former is sad. The second is excellent.
I agree that there should not be a double standard here but I'm not sure there is one. I think that when an older man marries a trophy wife, he is looked down upon as much as she is. Both are seen as conducting a kind of shallow transaction. Maybe that's not the case, but it certainly is in the circles I'm familiar with.
And now be honest with yourself, turn it around, if you could be together with a man who you don't love you are just attracted to and there is an other man who is 3 times hotter and you are super attracted to him. You see, if you are together with someone because you like her and you are attracted to her, that's not the same as you are together with someone that you are not attracted to and you are with him only because of money. In fact I don't see too much difference between a gold diger and a prostitute, they both do it for money... Oh wait the prostitute does not lie about why she is doing it.
Hottie-digger is not a term because gold can be digged and hotties can not. That doesn't mean men aren't judged for being shallow which is definitely the case. Also: Beauty is part of the person. If you like someone's looks you at least like that part of them. Money is not about the person. If you're only after money you literally don't care about the guy at all, he could be 90 years old, he could be gay, he could be a she. It means you don't value anything about the guy himself. And that is definitely an absolute no-go in a relationship.
It's not a great comparison because men aren't money. Women are their looks. Either way though, just be honest about you wanting them for their money and I think it's totally fine. When you lie about really liking them for them, then I think that's where it's unethical.
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Women are their look? So I guess it’s fair to reject a woman because she isn’t pretty enough, without being shallow right? But why is it bad to reject a man because he isn’t rich enough? It’s even more unfair toward women because beauty is something she doesn’t truly control, unlike success
The word shallow is dumb to me. We all like shallow things. Liking dick or a vagina is considered shallow. I don't agree with people saying attraction shouldn't matter. Yes it's okay to reject a man or women for their looks along with any other issue you have with them.
I'm not saying it's bad to reject a man if he isn't rich. If you need a 6 foot tall man with good looks and money, that's fine for you. If you only want a guy for him money, that's okay but I consider that using him so I think it's important to not lie about why you like him.
It's important to be open about why you like a partner in general. If a guy only like her ass, I think she would want to know that as well. Usually when that happens, the guys uses her for sex and will be in a friends with benefits type situation. If both parties are happy with that, great. Just don't lie.
A girl acting like she wants him but only likes his money is wrong because he may want a real loving partner.
Also if wealth was easy to obtain, you wouldn't be using men for it. You'd get wealthy yourself. Looks can be heavily improved by having a fit body, yet 70% of Americans are overweight.
What? I think the opposite is true. Dudes get shit for going after a chick just for her looks. I think it's more acceptable for women to be with a guy for his money. I don't hear as much backlash on that. I don't know why other broads think this. Maybe because they're more focused on the female aspect. Try looking from all angles. Both get a good amount of shit.
It's not a social thing, it's a mating thing/instinct based on fitness to provide and fitness to breed, and THAT is what bled into social norms. This is how humans always behave. Girls like the guy with the nice car when few other guys even have cars, right? same thing.
The majority didn't have nice cars during the great depression and women were still marrying men. It's a generational Marxist feminist hypergamy thing.
@ThisAndThat While I don't 100% agree with all points in your first statement, mostly because Cars were only one of endless examples I could have used. In that era (depression) any man who worked at a bank and could afford to live alone was a fine catch for prospecting young women! But, alas, I must concede your second statement rings especially true today. it's sad, in some ways, how the voices of the very few can sound so annoyingly loud in everyone's ears without mercy.
I mean if both parties are fine with it I feel like nothing. Something I could see in the future is people not feeling as valued because it's all based on finance. Me personally I would have no issue giving companionship in exchange for nice things. It has the potential to give a bad name for the majority because of the minority.
I think most men have no problem with women who are OPEN about their gold digger ways.
What frightens men is the possibility of meeting a "nice girl" who HIDES her gold digging intentions, and rinses him clean once they're married.
I have no doubt that some men are happy to date physically attractive gold diggers, in that case the exchange is reciprocal (her looks for his resources). But most men just want to avoid the gold diggers who pretend not to be gold diggers in the beginning.
In all honesty I think the term golddigger is just another phrase for hoe with high standards... Men do not always like women for their physical attraction but for their internal attraction there is simply no point having a physically attractive lady if she can't speak to you respectfully
Yes it is. A woman stays with a man for his money, leave him when he gets broke. A man stays with his woman just for her looks, and as she gets older or suffers an illness or whatever that's causing her to not be as attractive anymore, and you leave her. Same shallow attitude and no one with that attitude deserves a relationship.
what's bad with being a gold digger is that maybe the guy wants a relationship, maybe he's in love with her I don't know and but she just wants his money, so you know, it will break his heart. If she's a gold digger, once she finds someone with more money she'll leave him, and that shit is not okay>.< it's just a fucking hoe
You a pick me ass female lol girl talk about men who use woman for their looks about body what’s it she loves him? What about when woman get old and their old fucking husband cheats for a younger woman and now uses that cash for and starts fucking with the same goldiggers he said he hated smh
Emmalouise03 you’re mad cuz you’re a pick me and I love how you’re a woman but you can only talk about woman and not men and when they hurt woman fucking pick me ass b lol ew girls like you sound desperate 😂
@Roxilicious sorry, I've seen enough stuff in my country and sometimes on this site that has convinced me that equality between men and women is not what feminists want.
Also what's wrong with being a pick me girl nobody's perfect it dosent make them any less and it sure as shit dosent show your desperate it shows your humble and not stuck up which is attractive
Cocoacolaaddict let me get this straight you want me to feel sorry for men getting used but than not talk about woman getting hurt? Pretend it’s less important than when a man gets hurts? Nope sorry I’m not defending men on this one I see a lot of you defending liking woman for her looks and say that shits not shallow when it really is. Men aren’t any better for liking woman for their looks you guys are just as shallow and f’d up period
And well dchris that’s not my problem I’m my own person and go by exactly what the definition means try and argue about what kind of feminism I am and watch how dumb you end up looking I 100% hate when people try and argue with me over choosing to be a feminist and than trying to tell me who I am and what I believe passed on that you don’t 💁🏽♀️
And you’re gonna look dumb once you actually ask about my actual viewpoint on topics 💁🏽♀️ I’m very feminist try me nothing about me is man hating but I definitely see this as some bs bs this is not right
Yes it does men always want to use does two wrongs make a right after they do something shitty and don’t want woman acting the same because suddenly we are gonna be mean and bad woman nope save it this is what guys deserve for treating woman like rag dolls you can just use if it’s pretty to you and throw away to you find the prettier rag doll tf lol but let woman be with men for their money right
I go for normal guys who make me laugh and treat me good 💁🏽♀️ oh and since I can, I go for attractive men only and no big guys or guys with pimples and no shorter than 5,9
Well I’m not gonna date a guys who’s homeless or on drugs or has no life plans even if I have my own already I just would feel like he doesn’t take care of his life and that would mean he wouldn’t even be able to be a good boyfriend since his priorities aren’t straight to start but I would date a guy with any old job or living situation as long as he’s doing something
@Roxilicious well there you have it your still using him in some small way it may not be huge but you are still using him to provide for you may still genuinely like him and love him but your still using him for his money because you wouldn't date somebody you have nothing to gain from its the same with guys and looks a lot of guys look for someone who looks decent don't have to be beautiful or anything but he's still using her looks slightly which would be indicating towards sex so women use men for provision and men use women also for sex but it dosent mean they don't also genuinely like each other
And there’s nothing to gain from that other than knowing you’re with someone who actually cares about their situation and cares about people around them it shows they have a good character
@Roxilicious you also said you wouldn't date a man who hasn't got his shit together I. e nothing to gain you said you want a man who at least has a job so they can at least provide for you that's still using their money because if you went you would reject their money all together and just provide for yourself
But it is women are attracted to strength which is security knowing their safe and provision so they are fed and looked after and men go for looks because it intrigues their drive for sex sex resulting in children
I didn’t not say I want a man to have a job so he can at least provide for me stop making that up lol I literally said it’s because I want to know they have goals and plans just like me 💁🏽♀️
And wrong that’s not how society works today woman don’t wait for a husband to come take care of them especially not here in America 🤦🏽♀️ that’s how the past was today we all working and doing what we have to and yes men still choosing To date like before and just wanting to go for good looking woman makes you guys the shallow fucked up ones tf at least goldiggers with woman aren’t all of us but with men that’s mainly all of you
@Roxilicious I never said you didn't say that in fact I said you did I added the provision thing because its common sense you want a man to have goals like you so you know your not dating somebody you feel is beneath you hence why the no drugs thing you want somebody you feel is your equal and worth your time not somebody you feel is going nowhere
Choosing a woman who looks decent is the same as choosing a man with a stable job its biology its just the male and female equivalent looks to attract men to make baby's and provision to provide for the woman and child ad well as maintaining a reliable partner
@Roxilicious no not in the slighest there are many great non beautiful women just like there are many great homeless guys without jobs but neither gender chooses them because they want somebody they deem better they want quality or rather they want someone who can fulfill their needs but neither of them are beneath anybody because they were people like them once nobody is just born homeless or with the issues they face they have just fallen on hard times
And what about ugly woman? At least the broke homeless guy still has a shot but ugly woman are literally just thrown away and never loved like trash for the rest of their lives
You know why I would never do some dumb shit like that again though? He clearly was someone who didn’t even care about himself in the first place and not once throughout that whole time did he show signs he wanted to get better 🤦🏽♀️
@Roxilicious well if you are telling the truth then that's news to me and probably a one off and didn't you say earlier you wouldn't date a homeless guy?
That’s the way most people who choose that lifestyle are and I’m here in the real ass gutter so I know how people end up on those streets drugs for the most part or sometimes foster kids and the mentally ill when they loose everyone they love
What you think? Of course girls are dating broke men that happens all the time woman run on our emotions a lot of woman date men regardless of how they are because woman are loving like that it’s not often woman go for money and that’s the truth
@Roxilicious iv never ever met or heard of a woman who didn't want a stable man with a job stability equates to money in modern society and I won't lie to you I don't see much lovingness coming from women these days all I see is women putting men down
@Roxilicious I had to look up what 'a pick me' means, and wow, I was talking about gold diggers. I wasn't talking about anything else, u judge me because of an opinion I have on something that has nothing to do with feminism. You don't even know about my opinions? I got tons of them, I'm defending women too, but you feminists don't understand what equality means. Why should we ONLY talk about women's perspective? Why not men's perspective as well? If we don't do that, then BITCH ITS NOT EQUALITY.
It ALWAYS happens what do you mean lol there’s always broke ass families and couples walking in the streets together and yes those are real life woman making bad fucking decisions in the name of love 🙄 and men tbh don’t deserve good treatment for the most part
Of course it dosent like I said there are great unnatractive women and great homeless jobless men it dosent make them less it just means they won't get chosen
I’m not a man hater but I can still see the bullshit that men do 💁🏽♀️ it is bullshit that all of you think the exact same says and it’s socially acceptable but woman are not allowed that because if we all thought the same like goldiggers men would never allow that shit to happen let’s be real everything woman can be is all due to how men react to it period
Not always some women abuse their husbands my dads wife when he came home from a hard days work he just wanted to relax when she has been at home chilling all day he asked her to make him a cup of tea and she told him to make it himself she also hit him over the head with frying pans so no not all women treat their husbands right and yes I agree with you both genders are shallow but it dosent make it OK to be shallow ourselves if we want to build a better world we must first become better ourselves
And woman get abused more often either ways actually look at the domestic violence charts the sad part about it is most woman will experience domestic violence at some point and I don’t agree with domestic violence against men at all but I’m js that’s a lot more likely to happen to woman and yes we’ll talk to men about it because it’s still you guys who are more likely to be shallow I don’t see not one woman on here agreeing to date men for money and actually trying to defend that but I can see plenty if not all men on here defending loving woman for their looks
@Roxilicious You're such an angry feminist, just chill wtf;-; lol I'm not super submissive, but I'm not a feminist either, I'm just in the middle. But you're just angry, and I shouldn't have to delete my opinion because you wouldn't shut up:3
@Roxilicious yes that's true its more likely because its easier when your a lot stronger but its really a gender thing studies show that women molest little boys more than men do it just goes to show when you have more power its easier to to bad things its not a gender problem its just the individuals who chose to behave badly
what does submissive and feminist have to do with eachother what exactly do you think feminist all do in relationships Emma? 🤦🏽♀️ you do realize you sound fucking stupid right lol and than girl move on with yourself tf lol I’m not gonna stop replying I’m still talking to him 💁🏽♀️
And Coca-Cola that doesn’t make it right and it’s actually really sad if you think about it and I don’t know about that maybe true because I know my cousin when we were young got molested by his aunt and he told me I still am keeping it a secret though he never said anything and I still see her I swear sometimes I wish I could kill her I can’t stand knowing what I know
@Roxilicious you sound stupid judging me without knowing me, and talking about something else than what my fucking opinion is about with some random guy on the internet for hours.
@Roxilicious how about you get your slutty ass out of my comment section bitch? if you support gold diggers then you're a SLUT. And if you NEED to keep talking with this guy, then why tf don't u message him? u are both such drama queens not being able to STFU. I'm not fuckin responding more, and I won't delete my fucking opinion, I'll just block u instead ugh
Well statistics only report what's reported we don't know about the unreported incidences a lot of men are ashamed to report because of the pressure on society and for fear they will be called weak and ridiculed
Because it's stupid. No relationship is guaranteed to last so when/if he leaves you're shit outta of luck and can't do shit for yourself. Also a lot of gold diggers don't even love the guy, they're basically just leading the guy on and depending on how old he is hoping he'll die soon so they get his money. If you ask me that's a lot worse than guys having a preference for big butts or boobs, at least they aren't leading on someone who they aren't even attracted to.
"Hottie-digger", and gold-digger wouldn't be the same thing. A hottie would naturally attract a man, gold-diggers have one thing in mind only, and that is money, they couldn't care less about the person. And what's wrong with it? It's pathetic and immoral.
So you would be fine with spending the rest of your life with an old unattractive old fat guy who is rich? If yes, and all you look for in a man is money then go for it. You can also get a job for that.
If you want a romantic relationship with love involved, then gio for someone you like, otherwise there are plenty of desperate men that will happily waste their money in you.
Meh I just clicked something. But I only think it's bad if the rich person is being used without the person knowing that he or she is being used. If the gold digger takes advantage of a person who isn't aware he or she is being used... then I think it's bad.
Its cause it sounds like gold diggers only like the money the men have instead of the person himself. A nice ass is great but its still about who its attached to that makes it sexy. Doesn't have to be that big either. But I hope women still find rich men attractive for their personality too
I think it's fine to be a gold digger as long as the guy knows that you only want his money. Prostitution is legal in my country and I don't see why it shouldn't be.
For most, I don't object to it. In my opinion, most people (men primarily, but in equality times, we must not generalise) who are either stupid/willing/desperate enough, to in some way pay for the company of someone, well, they know what they are getting into, so what's wrong there. The person who does the "digging", well... one might suggest, that it is simply a line of work for people that don't go well with normal work culture, or who is just plain lazy, but still wants to live well.
This 'post' touches on a subject, but only seems to be trying to justify using others for money, with a flimsy excuse that the counterpart uses for looks... as if women don't also use for looks.
Look I know the stereotypes...
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Nothing. It's nothing for me but I don't judge the women who gold dig. There is obviously a market for them, rich men who doesn't mind throwing their money at a hot chick so she'll be with them. She's not using the man as i'm pretty sure he's usually aware that she's a golddigger and is fine with that.
it's not a double standard. men that are into bimbos are equally frowned upon as the bimbos themselves. men want beautiful women, women want beautiful men. that's how we choose the partner to procreate, however there are also other factors and being intentionally blind to those won't create a sustainable relationship. that's what is so bad about it.
But both genders like to have attractive partners, that doesn't mean we should use guys for their money. I mean everybody wants to date somebody that they find sexy or attractive, sooo why would that make it right for woman to use men for money?
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