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Should you ask permission before having the first kiss with your new partner? (Page 2)
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For some ladies it's a turn off, but I'm really grateful if they ask first.
Don't get #MeToo ed. That's a good way to land yourself in court for sexual assault these days. Sorry but in 2020 you gotta be a little smarter about these things.
Before you kiss a girl for the first time, do you obtain verbal or written consent?
well i dont mess with women anymore but I'd strongly advise it.
1. If you get verbal consent and you don't record it, a girl can deny that she ever gave consent.
2. If you get verbal consent and you do record it, s he can claim that you had threatened her and the consent was given under duress.
3. If you get written consent, she can make the same claim.
4. The only way to protect yourself with written consent is to have two witnesses and a notary acknowledge that they were present when she consented and that there was no indication of duress or force used to obtain her consent.
Does that sound like a reasonable thing to do?
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When's the last time you heard of someone being prosecuted for kissing a girl without her consent?
I will give body language signals to suggest whether or not I want you to kiss me. Usually if I shift my body a little closer to you, look at your lips, put my hands near yours, etc., it means I want you to kiss me.
A guy shouldn't date at all in the US or the west. Every single thing that comes from guys pertaining dating can now be considered as a sexual assault, even looking at her funny or hurting her feelings. MGTOW and Monk is the only answer for guys.
One more guy who couldn't handle rejection and dropped out of the competition. Makes it easier for me.
Handle rejection? I've had girls come to my room, sit on my bed and lay at the foot of my bed trying to seduce me I turned them down. I've had them come to my place of business trying the same, I turned them down. I had one drive me from a club to her apartment she claimed at the club to keep her safe, but no she tried it too and I turned her down. She ended up sleeping with my cousin and they moved in together, because I wouldn't have anything to do with her. I've had them sit on my front door steps trying it, one literally allow her puppies to fall out of her bra trying it, and in ever single case I turned every one of them down. It ticked them off too, they would accuse me of being gay because I wouldn't give in and all of them were good looking. If you want to call that rejection, go right ahead, I call it not play a game that's rigged against men being a MGTOW Monk. You can have them all, they're all yours. But I would advise you to go read Isaiah 3 26:26 first. God and the Bible has never missed one.
It must be great to be you!
I understand how you feel well not entirely ofc because I'm not a guy. But I wouldn't say you couldn't handle rejection like that other guy said.
@OlderAndWiser well he seems to be doing fine so
@Froyologirl "A guy shouldn't date at all in the US or the west." Those are his words. I know the PC lines about everybody gets to make those decisions for themselves, etc., but. . . does that REALLY sound fine? No one in the western hemisphere should date?
No way, that would ruin the moment. You just have to go for it and if she turns her head and lets you kiss her cheek, then so be it.
If anyone asks permission to kiss me, I will mace them. If you wanna do it, just fucking do it. Don't be such a pansy.
And yet other women scream #metoo in these situations. Damned if you. Damned if you donāt.
@bluetoblack99 Exactly. WTF!
Wow. You're a dumbass. Guys dont listen to this psycho. She probably has some unresolved anger issues.
@Simplismilez thank you for calling her out but sheās not the only one who thinks this way.
Just realize the traps women set for men. You wonder why there are so many āangryā guys out there. This is why Iāll never get behind feminism. It has no uniformity.
@bluetoblack99 well any decent woman isn't going to threaten to mace someone for asking for consent. This one is definitely a psycho so i would steer clear.
I asked first on every single firs time i kissed someone...
I got kissed on my first date and then it was my last date.
Haha why?
See, here's the thing. For people who read body language well, it might not be necessary. But, if you genuinely can't tell, it's not a huge deal to be like: "Hey, is this okay?"
I know you would kiss me right off.
@888theGreat I definitely wouldn't do that.
I would tell you to quit licking my tonsils. lol
@888theGreat This exchange is severely unwanted and awkward. If you could just stop, that would be appreciated. I haven't given you any reason to suggest this is desired or appreciated.
Just like your post on my auction question
@888theGreat My post on your auction question was to point out racial inequality, not to sexually harass you or anyone else involved. So, if you could stop being so... weird and creepy, that'd be cool.
Bless.
lol wtf dude?
You normally know whether your kiss will be received and reciprocated or not, so if I feel the moment, I go for it.
Never ask, just go for it if the situation is perfect
The first is almost always magical, so asking would ruin the moment, IMHO.
No. Consent is non-verbal. Asking permission kills the mood.
That would be too awkward. I would go for it at the right moment
Iām sure she wouldnāt mind a kiss on the cheek if you were already hugging on something.
From my own experience, you'll know if a girl wants you to kiss her, IF you've paid any attention to her.
I think so. It doesn't have to be uncomfortable I just come out and say"I'd love to kiss you" this of course is probably after a few dates
Consent is mandatory!
Consent is usually implied from the circumstances and not explicit.
@OlderAndWiser thatās bad practice
Do you get written consent or do you do a voice recording when you get verbal consent?
@OlderAndWiser little black dress doesnāt mean yes
1. I never suggested that LBD means "take me, I'm yours."
2. You didn't answer my question. Do you get written consent or do you do a voice recording when you get verbal consent?
I asked her. Kissed her on her cheek Then proposed to her. She rejected me.
It was too fast and all wrong :-)
Had I shown more decisiveness, history might have been different :-)
I was told by multiple girlfriends that they didn't want me to ask. they just wanted me to do it.
Talk about mixed signals. Ladies please make up your minds
She'll probably accuse you of rape or sexual assault. Women have become legal liabilities that cannot be trusted.
I think your comments apply to an extremely small subset of of the female species.
Yeah i dont care. The law allows them to easily ruin our lives and they still shouldn't be trusted.
Sign a fukking contract. In blood for sex. LOL
With two witnesses and a notary!
Any guy worth his salt recognizes when she's ready for a kiss. I've never once asked permission. You get in close, they respond in kind, you kiss. It ain't very complicated. LOL
If you two aren't pawing all over each other, wanting to rip their close off and fuck them silly, it's just going nowhere fast anyway. WHERE IS THE PASSION?
Eh, it depends on how stiff she is.
If she's a lewd slut like me & we had good vibes, I'd go for it.
i asked my girl before first kiss, it kinda ruined the moment 😂 prefer don't ask just do it at the right time
Kissing, grabbing titty or rubbing her snatch... whatever. I go for it, and it's up to the girl to say "stop."
Uninvited and unauthorized exploration of the manhole can get you five years in prison on Florida.
If it's within reach, it's fair game.
Believe it or not. . . that is NOT the law on this subject.
Never had a complaint yet, gramps.
You can get in your car and drive home drunk and get away with it once, twice, maybe ninety-three times. That doesn't make it a safe thing to do and that doesn't mean you're never going to jail. . . punk.
I think this sort of thing happens naturally
Certainly should.
G. Ask by gestures/attitude. Lean in for a kiss on the cheek and linger...
I'm not a traditional dater, so I don't think I'd ever have a problem with that anyway.
If everything falls in place or is going smoothly i dont think there is any need to ask
Donāt ask just fo for it! just make sure you are reading her signs correctly. Iām sure you know when someoneās into you.
Lol we donāt know how to read signs sometimes as guys. It should be verbalized or made clear and too often women are very subtle in their signs.
BODY LANGUAGE
- Sheās making long eye contact.
- She smiles with her eyes.
- Sheās within an earshot or shoulder tap
- If youāre already getting to know each other, then you might see a girl naturally touch your hand, shoulder or chest.
- her feet face you.
-sheās still talking to you
I got all this information from a website. Itās not letting me post it but you can look up body language for more In depth information. Hope it helps.
Yes I know about body language. But also know some girls are shy and may only give one of these signs. Whereas if they are blunt or used words itās much clearer what they want.
@DavidFox it all depends on the woman. I understand that itās difficult especially during these times. I would Lean forward and get in her personal space subtly. And if she stays where she is without stepping back get closer to her so that you are looking in her eyes and say something like āIād like to kiss youā but if she steps back immediately as soon as you get near her personal space or turns around. abort. I repeat abort! Lol thatās how I would personally handle it. Not all women are the same. When it comes to my personal preference. I like when a man has confidence and takes initiative.
I highly doubt youāll get rejected. You are handsome. good luck!
Thank you. Coming from a beautiful woman such as yourself I appreciate the advice. Iām guessing you have had lots of guys wanting to kiss you.
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In this day and age guys need to be weary some false victim clam doesnāt falsely accuse him of some horrible sex crime for āunwanted advancementsā.
Unless it seems if the girl knows you two are dating.
@UncleJessieRabbit Even then, there are even married bitches who accuse their husband of rape.
I don't know how common those marriages are, but you're right in that they are in fact not not marriage or even social material at all.
Generally it's good to ask first.
I agree. It called being respectful and being a gentleman. šš¼
@Poppykate particularly when you get your Frenchie on them, not too south cause it's closer to Antwerp, nobody likes the Belgians. Thats just yuck.
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No men don't ask they do and the girl submits.
It would be a good idea, If you have a girlfriend.
You dont as a guy want gee to think that she your property. So ask first
She can kiss me first. I refuse to go first
I'd rather he just went for it
i always feel like that just ruins the mood
It the mood is right I jokingly ask
I personally think they should just go for it 😊