Is it any effective?
Also do suggest a book which is relevant for today's dating scene.
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I don't know the book so can't answer specifically about that book.
I'll say that most of those types of books are not really aimed at the average guy. They are aimed at pickups and active daters. Whereas the average guy just wants a girl.
Most of those books act like "success" with women means the more women you get the more "successful" you are. Some answers to this question are doing the same thing. If that's your goal, then it probably really is success.
But for most guys, who just want a girl, then why take advice from a guy who can't or won't hang onto a girl? Getting one girl, and sticking with her, is more of a success than getting lots of girls. Getting lots of women is a failure if your goal is to just get a girl you like. Hanging onto a girl, and living with her, and marrying her, and most importantly staying with her, says a lot. It means you are doing something right.
Most of those books work for guys who only need a little shove and a little confidence. They won't work for guys who need advice the most. Because the ones who need help the most won't be able to do what most dating advice says. It's completely worthless for them.
The only way to really judge a book is to read it and see what it does for you. If it helps you get what you want, then it's a good book. But it's entirely individual.
Here at GaG used to actually be a good site for the average guy or girl. But it's gotten away from that. Instead of a place where guys and girls can listen to normal average guys and girls and find out what's going through their head, it's turned into Girls VS Guys instead of Girls Ask Guys.
The site still has something to offer if people can filter all the BS and actually listen to what normal girls and guys have to say. Nobody is going to figure it out by viewing the other as the enemy. They aren't going to figure it out by thinking the other is lying. They won't figure it out by thinking the other doesn't know their own mind and doesn't really know what they want.
This site is the BEST place I know of to learn. But you have to filter the BS and actually listen.
Ok.
I agree with you about the condition of the site.
So if not this book then what?
What will lead me to a girl with good intentions and a serious relationship.
I seriously agree with whatever you said. Honestly, since I was 17, I always thought of one partner for life.
But now, when I am seeing the modern culture, I was mentally disturbed for how much bad it is.
I understand that staying with a girl is what is right.
But then after going through the current scene where girls have partners before meeting the one and as of now I have zero partners make me scared.
I can't really recommend any books because I don't read any of them. I just know that in general those kind of books and other sources are not good for the average person. You can try them though. Maybe you will get something out of it.
What you need to do is to get out there and spend time around women. You don't need to think in terms of getting a girlfriend or having sex. Just spend time with women so you get comfortable around them, and can easily talk to them. The more time you do that, the better off you will be. The virus hurts, because you really need to be around women in person. Although don't pass a chance to talk to them online either. In person is what you really want though.
Men and women are 90% alike. The other 10% is important, and that's what gives all the problems. You can talk to women just like you talk to men. Talk to the 90% and get comfortable with it. That makes dealing with the 10% a lot easier. Talking to the 90% takes them off the pedestal that a lot of guys put women on. When you put them on a pedestal and think too much about the 10%, that gets in your way. That's what makes it difficult. So just spend time around women, and take it from there. One step at a time.
I know you want a girl. But get comfortable around women in general. So when someone comes along, it will be easier for you do get with her.
Although I am not looking to date, I've noticed that being on my purpose attracts women a lot. Obviously you will need to discover your purpose first, and that can take time. It gets to the point that your purpose is more important than any woman, and you naturally have zero outcome dependency. Something else that happens when you're on your purpose is you are excited too.
Recently I was talking to a girl and she asked me about my weekend. I was so excited about what I'd been doing and all she was concerned about was whether she excited me as much... pretty funny really.
You will also notice women making sexual remarks because they are not afraid you will be desperate and thirsty too...
Getting a degree and a good paying job is not necessarily your purpose. I'm talking about what you were born to do, or what you were placed on the earth for. You're reason for existing. Early 20 something that get laid every day is likely to be more effort and if that's taking away from pursuing your life purpose, it's a waste of time.
It could be artistic, but it could be anything. For example, you might discover that your purpose was to invent something that changes the whole world, or help heal others, or nature. Or maybe help people that can't see. It will vary.
That depends on your definition of fun and vibrant.
Reading a book is probably not the way to go. Even If it were possible how much better? Do you think you could become a better boxer or baseball player. The only way to get better at it is to get out there and do it. Watch real interactions and learn from someone who is good at it in person. Your going to find out real quick it has to do with confidence how you carry yourself paying attention to how they respond. You have to be able to make them laugh and feel comfortable around you
Just have too not force anything. The main thing you have to do is get out of your head long enough to pay attention to women in general. Obviously don't stare but if your out and about look at people going through the whole ritual and pay attention to body language. That was an area that now that I'm older I realize I missed out on a lot of clues. A lot of it is logical common sense things but we let our brains and insecurities talk our selves out of situations. Women like confident playful but respectful guys That pay attention. Unless your abnormally good looking you probably won't get far without some of those qualities even then not far. The fact that you are trying to figure it out shows that you at least care enough. You don't have to be a comedian just witty. When she is laughing her brain is producing those feel good endorphins wich is only going to help your cause. Either way there is someone out there for you just do the best you can not to mess up those interactions by trying some of the things I hear are in some of these books.
First of all I am extremely sorry for my late reply.. I got offtracked.
Now I understand what you are saying and I know that I shouldn't force anything neither should I be needy.
But my concern is what if that time doesn't come for me?
All the people my age are having fun with men and women except me.
I don't want to end up lonely and miserable in my late 20s.
It will happen. You are probably missing opportunities. You should have girls that are friends. I had this guy that I hired and he was similar. Extremely intelligent and we would always talk about this. Great guy and the only thing I saw was a couple tweaks with what he wore. His glasses did not suit his age he had an incredible vocabulary and would use words that were dated but a little over kill for casual conversation. Things like that are cool but better to show off as a hidden skill. I had to explain to him that some people might avoid conversations with him rather than acknowledge they did not understand him. Anyways new modern glasses nothing crazy just age appropriate. As well as a more up to date wardrobe and he met himself a nurse practitioner and they have two kids now. It doesn't take much
Haha... what a lucky guy he is!šš»š
Well yes... I have been missing opportunities for the past 3 years now.
I am an Asian and will be starting college within a week.
This is the time I'll be exposed to a lot of girls. I have never had female friends. Always neglected them and they found me stupid so I did not bother with them much.
Here the society is conservative still.
And yes, thanks for your words of affirmation.š
It truly feels better to know that there are people who think I can find love too.
Thanks a lot for your time.
I wish to meet you here again and gain more from your experience and wisdom.
Good day.š
Whatever you read, you need to make sure above ANYTHING else that what you're doing is PRACTICING with REAL women in the FIELD. Get a LOT of reps in. SUPER critical. Make it your goal to literally start conversations with and get blown out by 10 attractive women every day for the rest of the month.
Not so much rejection as just getting comfortable with speaking to anyone. Keep drilling until you're comfortable. At any rate, the main point I'm making is don't spend all your time reading and being theoretical about things. Get out there and practice.
Going to the gym will help you with the weight loss, no?
No prob. Good luck!
The gym is essential. It makes you look better, feel better, more disciplined, confident, masculine, resilient and you feel more attractive.
@Truthatanycost Agreed.
@Truthatanycost
Ohk.
I will have to join one then.š
Thanks for your time too.
I havenāt read his stuff because all the guys who are the real deal say that heās full of shit.
If you want to properly understand inter-sexual dynamics and then nature of male/female behaviour, relationships, attraction etc. read/watch Rollo Tomassi. He rambles a lot but heās spot on about most things.
When it comes to more practical advice there are a number of people Iād suggest, and which one will help you most depends on your personality type:
- 60 Years Of Challenge/Christ Andersen
- Aaron Sleazy (ignore his more recent stuff, but his book āMinimal Gameā is good)
- Alan Roger Curry - Mode One
- Steve Jabba
If you believe for a second that reading a book will improve your dating experience you are easily scammed. The only thing that will help you is to become tall and good-looking, or wealthy.
I hear ya.
The subtitle is promising.
True. Honesty makes for much more interesting conversation. Particularly given how many guys spend their time trying not to step on eggshells. You will have some women wide eyed from it, it can be pretty funny. But that comes from not having outcome dependence though.
@Truthatanycost
Oh yes.
He talks about not being needy.
And I have personally been struck with this "don't expect anything" mentality lately which is great tbh.
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