I know many people who are into physics, astrophysics and astronomy but they studied arts because they didn’t want to get formal qualifications in engineering or physics. They prefer reading science as a hobby.
I think you have to know someone personally to know how intelligent they are. I wanted to study something STEM related. My first choice was chemistry but I am an accomplished polyglot and I pick up languages very easily so my teacher encouraged me to go for an arts degree instead and pick up STEM in my own time.
I get where you’re coming from but it doesn’t always indicate intelligence. I would first ask their institution name because there is a difference between studying mechanical engineering at a top institute which requires high grades for entry onto the course and between studying the same degree at a university that admits pupils with three C’s.
But yes, if I find out someone’s bachelors is in physics then I instantly think they’re extremely intelligent as opposed to someone who’s degree is in sociology or something.
Yes, I prefer dating educated men. I'm an educated woman and I prefer my man to be educated as well. Educated men tend to make more money, making them less likely to live with their parents at near 30. They're also less likely to mooch off me and they're financially secure enough to help with adult responsibilities such as bills, food, and other life necessities. Having a high IQ also doesn't always indicate high intelligence. A person with a high IQ could still be an irrational thinker, emotionally turbulent, and behave in ways that can poison a relationship. In terms of intelligence, a person isn't required to have a certain IQ score for me to be interested in him, but he must be able to think rationally, accept reality rather than wishful thinking or conspiracy theory, excogitate solutions to most problems without getting overly emotional, and not make self-defeating decisions. A person doesn't have to show me an IQ score for me to sense that he's smart. His knowledge, actions, and decision making ability automatically shows me that.
A high IQ indicates that he will advance our civilization. A low IQ person cannot. Our society doesn’t praise the high IQ enough. Emotions are utterly worthless to me because they cloud your ability to think logically. Humans are the most optimal without their emotions.
A high IQ isn't required to advance a civilization, nor would a person with a high IQ always contribute. A person with an average IQ, which constitutes the majority of people, could also advance the society as well. High IQ doesn't mean anything if people with it are unable to or unwilling to apply their intelligence. Like I said, not everybody with a high IQ is a rational, logical thinker. Being irrational could result in a drastic fall of a civilization, regardless of your IQ score.
It’s a matter of capabilities. Nobel Peace Prize winners in innovated sciences are generally not average IQ people. The average IQ person cannot understand complex engineering concepts. It’s a different thing if they are unwilling to apply their intelligence, but most people cannot even begin to fathom a single concept of a STEM field.
You don't have to be a Nobel Peace Prize winner in sciences to advance civilization though. All a person is required to do is learn a trade or a skill, have the discipline, will, and determination to use it, and work. A person with an average IQ can do that and can even become more intelligent overtime. As long as you have a stable educational system, teachers willing to teach, students willing to learn, and people willing to work, civilization would advance naturally regardless. A person also doesn't require a high IQ to be successful in STEM. Just because one perceives something as "complicated" doesn't mean that only high IQ people can understand it. Some people just have different ways of thinking and can understand things better than others without necessarily having a higher IQ score.
High IQ people have a faster understanding of complex ideas. That’s the whole point of the IQ test. They can learn things faster and learn extremely complex subjects. Do you think people who study quantum physics are average and low IQ people? Learning a trade or skill isn’t enough. All you’re doing is building society, but you’re nothing without the people who come up with the ideas and engineer them. The high IQ run our society. Without them, we would be in the stone ages.
Not all people that can understand things quickly always have a high IQ and "complexity" is subjective as I mentioned previously. What can be considered "complex" to one could be considered "simple" to another, regardless of IQ score. People can definitely study quantum physics with an average or low IQ and people with high IQs can exist that could struggle to understand quantum physics. Just because someone might be slower to learn something doesn't mean they can't learn it. However, having a good teacher and the desire to learn could help anybody eventually understand the subject. If the goal is the advancement of civilization, then a high IQ isn't required. That can be done by simply mastering a trade or skill. Not everybody that comes up with ideas and engineer them has a high IQ. Ideas can develop as a group effort and/or out of necessity, and could be tested and improved through years of trial and error.
I honestly don't care about formal education at all. I work in the engineering field and have a masters. Some of the smartest and wealthiest people I know never obtained a bachelors. I believe the traditional education system is outdated and an egocentric echo-chambered haven for fake elitist that lack real world experience. Oh, you're a professor teaching me about the field I'm going to work in but never left academia? Solid lmao. Almost everything can be taught through youtube, google, and sources like Khan Academy. Formal education benefits a lot of people when it comes to applicable technical skills, but I'm more a self-learner. I like to go at my own pace. Just like you, intelligence takes a larger precedence in how I judge dating prospects.
I don’t care. I only care about common interests in that respect.
People, especially girls, way overvalue education. It’s not actually about the education as it is about the status that comes with it, and also the culture attached to it. People use “educated people think this” as justification for their political beliefs. But that in itself is stupid, so it doesn’t reflect well. It’s just that the people who get higher education go to institutions which hold a particular culture. That doesn’t make it the supreme ideology of the smart people, it just means smarter people can share a poisoned well.
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u Someone having a Ph. D. in clinical psychology tells you nothing about their IQ?
Psychology is an easy major. It only tells me that they might be slightly above average in intelligence. A ph. D in a STEM field on the other hand is far more difficult.
I am guessing that you are in a STEM field.
WAIS and WISC-R.
I’m not in a STEM field. I also don’t claim to have a high IQ. My purpose is to improve the lives of the high IQ so they can improve everyone else’s lives.
Most people who have a Ph. D. are very bright, regardless of their field. Maybe you haven't spent enough time around doctoral level people to understand that.
If a guy is educated great. But what I hate is the arrogance that comes with education. People gave forgotten how to be humble, they don't understand humility.
I remember when I was younger my grandfather always taught me this. We all learn from each other. We may currently be the most clever person but there is always someone more clever. Would we like someone to treat us like a fool for not matching their intelligence or to show us their way of thinking?
The world has changed and I honestly just don't get it.
It's scary...
Little hitlers everywhere.
I agree that arrogance should stay away from the conversation of IQ. However, the high IQ do provide us with the advancements of our civilization. I want them to be humble, but I understand if those high IQ people wish not to be. Society should be celebrating their advancements.
We can celebrate what they contribute to society but like anyone, they couldn't have done it on their own. What about their tutors, mentors, assistants, family, friends. Prior intellects in their subjects. No man before God. I'm not religious but I'm really starting to understand the principle behind having a higher being. Human ego is dangerous and when we think we are the s*it we lose self control. It's important to remain grounded. Look at Britney spears listen to Justin Bieber talk about the yes culture and what that did to them. We all serve a purpose. Its important for us all to Remember that
I mean those people are great, but they didn’t have the brains to do what the high IQ person did. All they did was help that person emotionally. They could never compete with his IQ level. Whether you believe that statement about who is true or not is up to your discretion. I chose to praise the high IQ for advancing our civilization as we know it.
My hubby is educated I am less educated but knowledgeable in his field. If I was back in the dating field I'd want someone educated to a certain extent. I say this because then there's less likely chance I'll hear off color words or slander i find distasteful. Less likely to be a bum. What I find more important is ability to get a damn job. Like if you can't go out there and be some likable SOB and score a job and keep it for over a year you're not even on my radar of potential. People who go from job to job to job annoy me.
Um I don't know doesn’t matter to me as long as they are smart , observant , or know basic highschool shi or smth like a normal education but I don’t rlly look all into that just the personality I look for the most . I guess ur more attracted to intelligence lmao.
That’s the point I’m trying to make. Being “smart” is a matter of genetic ability (and upbringing too). So how can someone determine that someone is smart? Other than the field of study that they’re in
I really don’t care about someone’s level of education. I’ve met valedictorians who were complete idiots, and people who were terrible in school but so intelligent beyond the classroom. I just want to be with someone who has a very deep, vulnerable, and well-rounded way of thinking.
Idiots in what sense? Valedictorians generally have high IQ levels. They can understand complex physics with a quick glance. They can engineer rocket ships and discover new suitable planets. How can they be idiots? I don’t see anything else as being smart. If you can’t even solve a basic integral, you cannot consider yourself intelligent.
In order to get the highest grades in school, you’d have to be highly intelligent. No ordinary average or low IQ person would be able to become valedictorian.
I said not JUST educated. I didn’t say that I didn’t want her to be educated. I’m saying that her IQ level is more important than her level of education. I would prefer that she uses her IQ level in things that will actually progress our society.
It definitely is not the same you are right. But yea I want a man who at least has taken SOME college even if he dropped out and found a profession that did not require a degree, bc for me it’s not about the social status it is about have relatable educational experiences and conversations, companionship
I would want a high IQ girlfriend. I couldn’t care less about your education level if you can’t do basic calculus.
Actually, IQ does not say much about intelligence either. Intelligence has lots of forms: general knowledge, specialist knowledge, verbal reasoning, non-verbal cognition, social intelligence, articulation, wisdom...
I thus agree that education isn't the same as being intelligent. It is only one facet of it. I do value intelligence in a long-term partner, but that can exist in many ways.
Oh okay. So you can say we have a different definition of what "educated" is, which is fine. Those IQ tests are flawed, but to each their own. I personally don't think you can be smart and well educated without college. And I would probably prefer if she had a college degree, because it shows she has ambitions. Though in the US, any bozo with ADD can get a college degree. I don't really care about her IQ as I don't think it tells you anything. I've seen those IQ tests, and it's mostly critical thinking and analysis questions, not general knowledge. General knowledge is what's important to me, but even THEN, NO ONE is knowledgeable in every subject. I've met professors with PhDs who were dumber than people who only graduated high school.
For the sake of answering this question I will say, "YES", but like I mentioned before, it all depends in your definition of "educated"
I mean I wouldn't date a dumb girl as I would lose my mind having to escort her through life explaining everything. I also hate people who can't make up their own mind and just follow the crowd because it's the popular thing to do. So I would only want a smart woman who cna make her own mind up about things.
It's nice, but not necessary. A smart (even if just "smarter than the average moronic human being") woman is a requirement for anyone I were to date, but their education isn't that important. A Bachelor's degree would be nice, but I pretty much wouldn't care.
I agree that having an education isn't the same as being smart.
Some people are over educated, but have no common sense.
They're really not typically problem solvers capable of thinking outside of the box and inventing ways to survive.
They only know what someone else wrote in a book.
They're not usually deep thinkers with original thoughts. They are basically programmed by the system and fed the information they need to have to become contributing members of society and the economy.
It certainly doesn't hurt. I don't especially care if she's formally educated, but if it helps her feel more like my equal (I'm in law school, so I would definitely understand why someone with only a high school education might feel uncomfortable), then I'm all for it.
It would be nice if he has a degree of some sorts. But honestly, i just need him to at least have a HS diploma. I know many men who dont have degrees but have trade school certificates and theyve become successful
Success in this sense is not the same level of success that the high IQ offer. They offer the greatest technological advancements.
Depends on what educated means. I’ve graduated from uni. But my man graduated only from high school. And he is way smarter than me in many ways. I wouldn’t want to date someone who isn’t smart. But education (as in degree) means nothing
I only date women who have a high IQ. That is the measurement of intelligence.
Riiiight, you can't just guess their iq
@msc545 she would provide me her proven IQ test results. If she is a major in a difficult STEM field, then I can concur that she has a high IQ.
Absolutely. My wife was a Mensa candidate but she turned them down due to some issue or other. I loved her brain first, then the rest fell into place. Did I mention she was a redhead? Yeah, and all that goes with that
I doesn't matter who you want but who you attract. Apart from appearance, what do you think attracts smart women?
If you're smart you can easily answer this question, because it's exactly the same that you find attractive in potential partners.
Indoctrination has replaced education for the most part. Decay of society and all that.
I'm educated and I've learnt that it's bullshit, I'd rather be with someone not so educated but has learnt some skills that help him progress in life.
The low IQ will not progress our society. They build it. The high IQ engineer the greatest and latest technology.
Surely I'd prefer someone smart but I'd have a priority for her personality and character cause all the brains isn't gonna help if she's horrible to be around.
Let's just say I want a woman, that is career oriented. "Education" happens to correlate with that often enough and therefore high wages.
Money is everything.
I would like a girl that has graduated high school but I don't care about if she has a college degree
I’m a well educated woman so absolutely. I want someone who understands and challenges me mentally. Dating someone you have to explain everything to gets really tiring after a while.
When I did a journalism degree 1976-80 and later an education degree 2013-2017 I found myself in lecture theatres, surrounded by educated idiots.
Yes, being with somebody educated is a huge preference of mine.
As long as they know common sense then it’s all good
Education and intelligence is a big plus for a woman. It makes her more interesting.
I like where you're going with this but i disagree. I like intelligent but i prefer more uneducated. The things most people learn in education these days... yikes.
Again with this sh*t?
With what?
I want them to have criteria, that they know how to make good decisions.
no for us men education is not that important nor is her career. for a woman it is though 🤷♂️
Well both. Believe me non educated people can be really vulgar
Some of the biggest dumbasses I've met are in the STEM field
That’s why the institution is important. And yes you’re right that you can’t know someone is intelligent without having a conversation. I have had SUCH dumb science and math teachers. One science teacher told a kid that a crow was a black bird... oh and she even added “I think.” 😂😆 Most of my most intelligent teachers taught philosophy or English and even history. I also had a very intelligent MFL teacher. Those teachers were well rounded and knowledgeable on everything from the sciences to economics and history and politics AND global culture.
Want? No in particular
If she is, great! If she's not, it's okay as long as she has ambition.
I study physics, and someone "less educated" would be bored with me.
Ok, do you plan to give her an IQ test, and if you do, which one?
The guy that asked this question is a troll and apparently won't answer questions. I conclude that he is rather stupid.
There are too many questions to respond to. I would probably have her ask to take the Stanford-Binet test or something. Primarily one that is approved by MENSA
The one that is approved by Mensa has very low reliability and validity just for your reference. In other words, you couldn't depend on the results being accurate.
It's definetely a huge advantage, but it's not always key to success.
Intelligent yes
Educated not so much
Education means liberals and I abhor liberals
my ideal partner doesn't need to be educated but I need them to be curious and willing to learn.
Educated people are much more attractive. For me I would never want an uneducated man.
I don't want nothing from them
Just there presence of mind
Are u the same guy that asked if women are all bi?
No...
Obviously. Who the hell wouldn't?
A fool.
Well educated and smart that's very attractive.
Hahahaha
So shallow yet so true
Great place to start..
I take educated over pretty 😍
I will strongly perfer it.
Id prefer intelligent even "street smart"
Who wouldn't?
Yes, please.
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