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+1 yNow this is absolutely true of some boys. But it's certainly not true of most boys (even in high school).
I have no doubt that you have very good reason for feeling the way you do. Guys seeming to be shallow is something you have experienced (maybe multiple times) and something you've no doubt observed.
Again... there ARE for sure, shallow guys like you describe. They also tend to be fairly loud about it.
I think though, that there are several things sort of working together to give you the impression that MOST guys are shallow in the way you describe. That's simply not the case. (again, I understand that I am in a completely different age-bracket. I am conscious of that in saying everything I'm saying.)
The first thing is: The shallow guys are the guys who are LOUD about their views. They are the guys you're going to hear/see/overhear talking about women. The guys who aren't shallow... simply aren't loudly talking about "what they want/like in women" during the natural course of things. If there's a group of guys TALKING about 'sexy girls'... that is going to be a group of shallow guys.
So a part of it, is that the shallow guys are the "visible" guys. They are the guys who's views get broadcast to the world. If you're looking at it from the outside, it's easy enough to give more weight to this small group of shallow guys... just because their views are loud, and you hear it ALL the time. You don't hear the guys who aren't shallow because they just don't generally spend time loudly broadcasting their views.
The second, and related factor is: There is actually pressure on guys to 'fit-in' to that stupid "a guy is SUPPOSED to be shallow, and try to bang sexy chicks" mentality. If a guy isn't totally secure in himself (a fair number of boys your age... I think you'll agree) then there is actually a whole lot of pressure to PRETEND that you're actually more shallow than he is.
A guy feels pressure to join in when a group of guys are bro-ing out and talking about the appearance of various girls (in a decidedly shallow way). I know that you know that already. But trust me... you really DON"T. as a woman, you can't.
Let me tell you. Guys... are pretty funny when it comes to how they relate to each other. There is a lot of pretense, a lot of subtext, and a whole lot of "hiding your softer side" involved in nearly ANY relationship between two or more guys. That applies to a group of friends, as well as a group of guys who happen to be in the same place at the same time but don't know each other.
Here's the thing. Guys will always SEEM to fit into the stereotype of 'how guys are' (in a bad way) more than they actually do fit that stereotype.
I've had some close female friends over the years. Especially when I was younger. It was a weird window into this phenomenon. I would find out through my female friends, that some dude--who I KNEW and was buddies with--actually DID have a softer side. That this dude WAS actually somebody with some internal substance. That this dude wasn't the 'shallow' guy that I had always assumed him to be.
Again, these are dudes that I was friends with. But as a guy... we just didn't show each other any of that part of ourselves. But guys can/do feel able to drop their mask with individual girls, in a way they just can't with guys. I cannot tell you how many times this happened. Eventually, I stopped being surprised. I figured out that most guys really aren't as... shallow and idiotic as they seem (even to me).
The most clear example was when a very good friend of mine began dating the neighborhood drug dealer. I had known this dude for years. He was not a particularly nice dude. But... underneath his (legitimately... and often proven) tough exterior... this guy was as loving, caring and deep as anyone else. He ended up being a great boyfriend to her actually.01 Reply- +1 y
My point is... that if you GET TO KNOW almost any guy... aside from the obvious douch bags... You will find that he, in fact is not shallow.
I know you don't believe me. I know you think I can't possibly know what I'm talking about seeing as I graduated high-school before you were born. But I really do know what I'm talking about here.
I wrote all this, because you remind me of those young guys who think that all women are shallow. That all women only want an 'alpha-male' (🤦‍♂️) with a six-pack and a square jawline.
Those young guys are fundamentally wrong about women. You are equally fundamentally wrong about men.
Guys absolutely do care about personality. In fact... they would take the girl with personality and 'ok' looks; over the hot girl lacking personality. That's really true for like 85% of guys (yes... even in high school). If you don't believe me...
My advice, honestly, is to make friends with some guys. Seriously, there must be some guys who seem alright enough to maybe consider befriending. If you get any guy comfortable enough to open up to you and have a 'real' talk... you should ask him. You'll find that guys (nearly ANY guy) are not nearly as shallow as they seem.
Guys generally, are hiding their true nature. Until you scratch the surface. 🙂
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+1 yBecause personality doesn't matter if we don't have attraction to go along with it. Personality is only 1/4 of what humans need to make a relationship work. We also need attraction, compatibility and some other need based attribute that I can't really define with 1 word. Because men are visual, we're not even going to give the fat girl a chance. No point. The world is full of thin attractive girls with good personalities.
Don't be discouraged. There is someone out there for everyone. He/she may not be the ideal image by Instagram standards, but attraction is different for everyone. If you're not able to attract the quality of guy you want you may need to make some personal changes.00 Reply
I think this goes for women too. I guess it's high or unreasonable standards. They want someone super hot while they often aren't above average.
But hey, to each their own10 Reply
They're visual creatures. They love what's pleasing to the eyes above personality as that's what they see first.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yYounger guys this is often the case as they aren't really looking for relationships. It's all about their hormones. As guys get older, it tends to change a bit. But it seems that way on the surface, because looks are what we notice first (we're visual, something I don't think women can relate to not being the same way), but that doesn't mean personality doesn't matter, it very much does (it may not be talked about). For me it's always been 50/50. I'm going to see if I'm attracted to you physically first, then I'll look at your personality.
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Opinion Owner+1 yBut women are too, just look on this site for example and all the questions and women who will ONLY date a guy that's 6' or taller! That's pretty shallow to me.
+1 yBoys to eventually mature and realise that personality starts to beat simply looks.
they get burnt a few times with good looking but toxic girls.
Actually chat to girls that are normal and suddenly realise these girls are interesting.
of course some boys don’t grow up and constantly chase good looking girls out of their league.10 Reply- 480 opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yYour age tells volumes about why you're making this question.
Boys your age are generally quite shallow indeed, not that girls are particularly deep either.
The point is that at that age most boys just want to get their noodle wet. The idea of renouncing a massive pool of potential beauties for the sake of one only is off the table.
Try again in 2 or 3 years. Provided they matured enough in the meantime.00 Reply 461 opinions shared on Dating topic. Lmfaooo woman are the same exact way if not a arguably worse then guys. Men are visual so that natural for us to want what pleases are eys most. What's woman's excuse for being shallow. It's especially incriminating when woman do virtually nothing in dating and have majority of the advantage in dating and in choosing there male partners who are 9 times out of 10 out of there league.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yBecause they are boys.
Personality isn't everything and looks are not everything but personality carries looks better than looks can carry personality.
But remember your rage about shallow boys when you are judging men based on their wealth and status ;)00 Reply- 2.2K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yYou're taking to the wrong guys. There are many guys that care mostly about personality. Hell I couldn't care less if a girl was sexy if she had a shitty personality. I absolutely have to be attracted to her personality.
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+1 yBecause sex is a prerequisite for most men to lead into relationships. I also include fit, feminine, able to cook, support, and give me a sense of peace i can't find anywhere else.
00 Reply I'm not. I don't care about sexynes. I pretty much only care about the personality :D
I mean, physical attraction still needs to be there though, but I mostly look at the personality.00 ReplyThere are two types of girls 1. For serious relationship
2. Just for sex
First group's personality is more important. But in 2nd group - it is all about sex.
I sort them by their attitude and smartness. It does not mean the girls in 1st group aren't hot. They are pretty, smart and with good personality00 Reply14.5K opinions shared on Dating topic. For the same reason that women lover liars but shun guys that would actually be decent to them. It's called "attraction" and unfortunately we're ( men and women) drawn to what we find attractive not what would be best for us.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 ythat's not true at all. guys go after looks first because nobody is look at her brains. they chase after the woman's looks then after if the woman has no substance upstairs brains wise he gets disinterested and leaves. i've dealt with several ding bats clueless air heads in my day and it's a massive turn off
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I think the only explanation is they don’t have one themselves. They’re just a skin bag or a melted turtle
00 Reply because sex appeal matters
keep in mind, sexy girls can also have good personalities10 ReplyBecause you have to learn life lessons before you realize how important personality is.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yBecause we are VISUALLY stimulated.
Your question would be like us asking you why are girls so shallow and obsessed with what men can provide for them over actual love. Since women generally love based on what men provide.00 Reply6.5K opinions shared on Dating topic. Because they are full of hormones and culture promotes that sort of behavior.
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+1 yProbably most boys are but personality is important in a relationship.
00 Reply3.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. assuming that you have personality and not just three holes to get fucked.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yBecause they are dumb. Men care about personality. Don't worry you will be valued for your personality as you get older.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yYou said it but I tell you I love a girl who I love for her personality. Do you think I will be able to marry her?
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yThey care about personality more than looks though, so... nope.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 ySame reason women are obsessed with a man's wallet and how successful he is.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yWe care about personality. It's doesn't matter if you have a sexy body, if you're an abusive bitch.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yWe care but our little head does all the thinking sometimes
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+1 yGeneralizing is unbecoming little one.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yIt's called BEING A MAN
Get over it Dorothy10 Reply- 6.3K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yThey're BOYZ honey. How much under 18?
00 Reply 665 opinions shared on Dating topic. Penis does the picking
00 Reply444 opinions shared on Dating topic. Shallow? Or just plain uninterested?
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+1 yi guess u have met wrong one's
00 Reply451 opinions shared on Dating topic. Many like both
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+1 yIt goes both ways
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