Men: Do you think women have unrealistic expectations when it comes to dating and relationships?

[aquamarine321]

Yes women have unrealistic expectations

No women don’t have unrealistic expectations

[MCheetah]

Obviously. And of course women would think wanting a man over six feet tall with the body of Batman, a 160 IQ, and earning seven figures before he's 30 is "attainable and realistic." I'm exaggerating of course, but only barely. I've met and been rejected by women like this, and more guys have met even more of them. Here's what I said in another post from last month:

"The thing is, [these women are] not even the lowest of the low. These are typical 18 to 25 year old women. The point isn't whether I would date them or not; of course I wouldn't. The point is, this isn't exactly "rare" like some men like to believe. The only difference between these women and others is, these ones are the honest ones.

I'm sure you've also seen that OKCupid study that said that women think 93% of men are unattractive looking. Are they all just "the lowest of the low," too? And it's not like this is confirmation bias or I go looking for this sh*t, either. You don't have to go "looking for it" when it's right in front of your face, and everywhere. You don't have men from all walks of life saying the same thing; they can't all be "incels" like these same women like to claim.

And it's not just the "Stacys" who are like this, either. Hypergamy is very real. Even 4/10 women who are unattractive and have bad attitudes still expect 10/10 men. The "Princess Syndrome." And I mean, when they have an endless sea of simps bathing them with affection, why wouldn't they have inflated egos and massive entitlement? You can't even blame these women for being arrogant and entitled.

I've never been the "hookup type" and I hate hookup culture. I'm just less than six feet and not a 10/10 Michael B. Jordan or Henry Cavill type, so I know what it's like. Dating apps [are] a lightning rod for depression for men. And it's a confidence booster for women. Only thing is, real life isn't that much better. All these women on these apps aren't just bots or AI programs. They're real women. The internet just allows you to see a more honest side of them."

[Slartybartfast]

There are more women in the world under 100 pounds than men over six foot tall. So if a women can expect , even demand guys that are over six foot, then it is LESS unrealistic of men to only date women who weight less than 100 pounds.

Considering the reaction (most dating sites would litteraly kick a man off if he put , "only women under 100 pounds " ) he would get!!

And to think, this is often just one of a giant list of unrealistic expectations many women have publicly stated online.

[Anonymous]

It’s not a question really but a thought, no? How can “woman have unrealistic expectations” when no two woman are alike? Every woman on here would list different wants and needs she is currently looking for, a list which also changes, just like with men’s own interests.

[VanillaSalt]

But it’s all superficial bullshit. Why in the hell does your man have to have a fucking six pack? 10 to 20 years it’s going to be going anyway. Why does he have to have a kick ass car? He’ll be getting rid of it when he gets a kid anyway to help pay for bills. At 25 he don’t need to be traveling the world!

It ain’t enough to make okay money and treat her with respect and love her anymore. This is why I said fuck women. Their not worth giving a second thought to.

Funny thing is I don’t mind the best of the best hot intelligent women having hot intelligent men but now every woman’s a fucking 10. Half of y’all are pastry heavy on the outside and Voldemort meet grease fire in the inside and still expect the best. Men and women like this go together like puppies and fire ants.

[Opinion Owner]

@VanillaSalt Why do you look at the outcome instead of the journey? You’re describing personal festering hate rather than any healthy and realistic perspective. I suggest simplifying. We humans tend to over-think.

[VanillaSalt]

And I suggest jumping into a decision without considering the chances of success and failure and what’s to gain and lose is a fools errand.

[Opinion Owner]

@VanillaSalt Oh I agree with that too. If it reaches the point you have so much hate though.. kinda have to rethink. Not nitpicking. Just wondering if you see how much you project with your words.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

I think both women and men have unrealistic expectations when it comes to dating and relationships

[aquamarine321]

The question is about women not men, but okay 👍🏾

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

But why call out just one gender for it and not the other? 🤷

[Georgepithyou]

Classic "whataboutism"

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@Georgepithyou damn straight... Why should it be okay for men to have unrealistic expectations yet call out women for theirs🤷 at least I can admit it's both genders that do this... Anything else seems like a one-sided gender attack... People, not just women should let go of these unrealistic expectations of they really want to be successful in dating and finding a partner

[aquamarine321]

@brainbeforebeauty because men aren’t fussy like women are, we don’t need a lot from a woman to be happy, just a few simple stuff and behaviors

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

I'm a woman and I'm the same way! There you go lumping all women the same🤦🤷

[Browneye57]

Uh gee, ya think?
From the time these girls could talk, they were told how pretty and special they are, how much more deserving than and more entitled than, any boy. That they are a little princess and that one day a prince charming is going to swoop in and sweep them off their feet. Even disney got into this bullshit shtick.
So we have this entire generation (or two) raised by the crappy parents MY generation raised, that produced special entitled little snowflakes, and girlie-men. And both hate the other gender - so badly that half of them want to be the other cuz they hate themselves.
It's sick. and yes, they're delusional, and unreasonable. And they think they're entitled to happiness, success, respect, all the good things in life, by just being, cuz that's what they were told all their life. The truth is, they deserve NOTHING, they get what they get for the effort and work they put in, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

[RawIronhide]

Sometimes some do. Also sometimes they just expect you to have lots of money or already be successful before dating them. It's like I'm working on it, I'm only 24 doesn't mean I'm a looser or I'm not trying... nothing was ever handed to me so give me a break would ya.

[NathanDavis]

in my experience no... all my girlfriends had me for who and what I am...

they never asked me to fly, to jump over buildings nor create matter out of thin air

[ChubbyKing]

Depends on what you mean by unrealistic. I wouldn't say so in terms of them wanting things that are hard for most to attain like say they'll only date millionaires, but I will say a lot of them have expectations that they themselves don't live up to, like always wanting fancy dates, to be pampered, to be spoiled on their birthday, anniversary and holidays. Women have issues when it comes to reciprocity.

[MzAsh]

Many women have unrealistic expectations in terms of status and success but way too low standards when it comes to how a man thinks or behaves.

[Sohard]

Naw man, if you think that way you're just a whiner and were spoiled as a child to not be able to meet a females expectation. But then again some females just love to be treated the way they get treated by ass holes right. So you gotta find the happy medium..

[exitseven]

I voted yes but it really depends on the individuals. Some girls are ridiculous with expectations. They want to move into a big house and spend the day with the girls.
Most are more reasonable.

[slatyb]

Some do, some don’t. Some expect too little and end up in abusive relationships. Some demand too much and stay single.

[Twalli]

Some women do. Especially the obese women who expect a model type guy 6+ feet tall to like them because of their personality and they don't need to lose weight to become more attractive to that guy.

[Alyssa11]

Yes I have stupid unrealistic expectations, but so many women get what they want and beyond so why can't I?

[DWornock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6ONHDmDD8s&t=304s

[Bluemax]

Are you sure you don't mean "desires?"

People often use those words interchangeably, but they aren't interchangeable at all.

[es20490446e]

Most probable answer:
It is you who shall lower their expectations, by warming them up and seducing them.

[Georgepithyou]

Yes women have very unrealistic standards, they have nothing to offer yet have a laundry list of requirements for men.

[Anonymous]

I am not a guy but women have realistic expectations

[AdithyaR]

I've seen both men and women have unrealistic expectations. It's not a gender thing.

[Smegskull]

Yea... So what though? Men won't be providing the tax buffer much longer so it's not like women will have a choice going forward.

[Anonymous]

What would be considered as an “unrealistic expectation” exactly?

[PinkLady21]

I think I’m this day and age both men and women have unrealistic expectations from relationships unfortunately.

[VanillaSalt]

I can’t remember who said it but they said a man just wants someone somewhat good looking that cleans, is willing to touch their Willy, and make them a sandwich. This is fairly accurate.

[PinkLady21]

Haha if only that was the case. In my experiences men have wanted a second mother to run his life for him and do pretty much everything but wipe his arse! I’m partially responsible as I do too much when I’m with someone, so they start to expect more and more but a little independent thought and kindness in return is all I’d want.

[Anonymous]

For the old way of doing things; yes. But that's going out the window in favor of female initiated polygyny. I've heard a lot of different kinds of women talk about this.