If I make $112k a year, can I manage to find a woman without a romantic past?

[Inthecraphole]

I am considering taking a second software engineering s job, and I will make a total of $112k a year. I am turning 27 and never had a real girlfriend or relationship before. I am wanting to be a woman's very first love. If I make that much, would I be willing to achieve that?

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[AmandaYVR]

Wanting to be a woman's very first love sounds insecure, like you are trying to hedge your bets that she will be happy and stay with you because she has nothing to compare you to. That's not really the time we live in or how love works. People date a lot before marrying and there's always a risk.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

Why not? Since when is innocence not the best?

[Inthecraphole]

The thing is, I can no longer say me and a woman met when we were both kids, whether that be college kids or younger. I am older. Combine that with her having a romantic history, especially during her youth, it doesn't feel right.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

It isn't a 'romantic history' thing. The trouble is if she is unable to go past her previous experiences - either if she cherishes some (which is offensive to you) - or if she has been traumatised by aholes and gets insecure whole projecting their personalities onto yours (that gets annoying and is also offensive/insulting - and damaged women do it _all the time_)
You also have to find someone not in love with their daddy, and not banged by him or her uncle etc (those things do happen no matter how much people prefer to hide them)

[AmandaYVR]

You are both looking at experiences as only negative. Experiences also teach people, make them grow, iron out the kinks in who they are going to become.

I think you both are treating women like dogs at the pound, with unknown and sordid histories. You need to think of them as people who gain wisdom with age.

You're both sounding overly fixated on purity, romanticism, insecure, idealistic, and wanting someone untarnished by life.

You're going to be compared. Doesn't matter whether it's with past people, or future people. There are people everywhere, and you can't stop their paths from crossing. People marry (or stay in relationships with) the ones who are the best of those they have met. There are many people who, marrying their first and only love, wonder, 'What else is out there? I feel like I might have missed out on those dating years, having fun meeting lots of people.' Those people can't be totally content with this unanswered question in their mind. So you replace one problem with another, potentially.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

I never compared - until I was given to continued 'features comparison" by the female (shoppers for the best deal).
My idea - and practice - of a relationship - is untarnished.
Before you pass judgements, be aware that a) you may be hearing a specific point of view and not a personal sensibility, b) that you'd be right to say I idealise - but not on any of the other counts.
I am happy to confirm the thing that are right about me - faults included (i. e. I am regularly late for most things) - the rest is, as is typically the case, the trauma of the person speaking being projected. Thus, the search for someone who didn't venture out beyond their ability to heal - and who won't be projecting their crashes and bruises at me.

[AmandaYVR]

@ThatNoUVAtYourEyes You're entitled to any of your opinions. But many (most?) people view older people with no prior history of relationships as someone who's damaged or leftovers. I fought against this very idea, on here, because the reasons are potentially complex and varied. But I'm just saying, many people see it that way. And they will avoid that person.
Perhaps it's the exact inverse of the person looking for the "untarnished" record.

[Drzen]

Listen to this women she's telling the truth here despite the insecure part which is not true. She's telling the truth but not whole truth , yes girls hook up and date so much before marriage they do it with the bad boys later they ride the cock carousel it means dick after dick have you heard about the slut phase? According to Girls they say its building a character , according to facts it's building a slut. Never mix between facts and what people say.
in my opinion you're good and kind man and with today's market place and the quality out there you may be a good catch for an experienced chameleon so take care. Good luck

[AmandaYVR]

@drzen Most girls fall in between zero history and “cock carousel.” Those are likely outliers/not the norm.

[Inthecraphole]

You don't think I can find at least one decently attractive woman that has never had her first love?

[Drzen]

You really can't say most. Girls at 20s wants to experience many things the CC and the phase.

Dating market is dead and dangerous for naive guys they may end up suicide that happened for some men they did suicide the chameleon took everything from him unfortunately he couldn't handle that. These days dating market is seriously dangerous

Girls out there teaching toxic text strategy at TikTok she gets 3 million likes that give us an idea what's waiting us out there

[AmandaYVR]

Extreme examples.
Use common sense.
Problem #1: Taking life advice from people on Tik Tok. Filling your mind with crap will make you see the worst. Garbage in, garbage out.

[Drzen]

Watch your words. That's what happening today I'm telling truth while you're talking garbage and garbage.

I did explained everything without saying something bad. I won't let you talk to me in such a way you should show respect and talk to people with respect this is not your home table to say whatever you want to say to people so watch your words.

3 million likes for toxic strategy video that's show what's out there that's a fact.

Watch out for the boundaries.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

I agree those are the outliers - and only discussed as a matter of 'what is the right thing to strive for' - not the actual 'most people live that way'. Most people don't.
The cock carousel - one in 10 or in 50 girls will do that and you can be certain not the brainy nor tge brainiest one.
If you compare to guys, there probably is 20% to twice as much cheap scum amongst them (and the rare genuine gentlemen/really good blokes)

[Anonymous]

You are more likely to find ones with a past as they worship money. My girlfriend and I are virgin and both poor, we are going into fields that will earn much, but our relationship is not contingent on money, but faith in Jesus. Money surely can't buy you love.
1 Timothy 6
10, For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. By craving it, some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows. 11, But you, O man of God, flee from these things and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, perseverance, and gentleness.

[iBeowulf]

Sure they'll lie to you for free. Unless you like religion zealots, then it's easy to do.

[Inthecraphole]

I like religious girls. Christian of course!

[Inthecraphole]

If she were to lie to me, there would be extremely serious consequences.

[iBeowulf]

No, no... there wouldn't be serious consequences. 90% of Christians have fornicated and women file 80-90% of divorces and get custody and alimony in 90% of cases.

[Anonymous]

You're an idiot dude. Take it from a guy who makes well over 100k. Money does not buy you awareness. If you don't know how to develop meaning relationships now then you won't know even with a zillion dollars. And that is the issue not your income. You can find those girls, trust me. I found one by accident.

[Inthecraphole]

So you think I can be a girl's very first love then?

[Anonymous]

It's not about money brotha. You should save your resources be careful you're treasure for chameleon women out there. You don't have much experience be wise and learn from other mistakes. Your attention Worth cash and women need attention as oxygen. take a look on MGTOW

[DarkWinterNights]

Wide open to be taken advantage of.

[Opinion Owner]

@DarkWinterNights good catch for chameleons out there I hope he learn in easy way. With his mindset that's easy catch for chameleons

[bamesjond0069]

Its not about money. Its about your ability to unapologetically find hit on and woo 18 year old girls. Sadly thats the fact of it.

in my opinion finding them is the hardest part.

[Browneye57]

My god, your game absolutely sucks. No, surely not this way.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

You are still an arrogant small headed prick, eh grandpa?

[Browneye57]

@ThatNoUVAtYourEyes - Yep. Either shut up and learn something, or GTFO. We'r all good either way.
It's not my job to pat you on the head or the butt and tell you everything's okay. Life is hard, you're gonna get pummelled, so either listen up or get out. You and your fucking bragging. LOSER.

[DarkWinterNights]

You have some shit opinions but you make me laugh.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

I'd dignify you... but dignity isn't to be wasted

[Browneye57]

@ThatNoUVAtYourEyes - Don't be a fucking moron.

[Browneye57]

@DarkWinterNights - Way smarter than the rest of these dimwits here. You kids think you know something, you just don't. Fucking clueless.
Just look at this moron's question. He thinks he's rich and women want him. What a pathetic loser.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

What's your trouble, pops? You're good looking, still agile/full of elan - why are you here?

[Anonymous]

guy i told you before if you keep looking for women without a past you're not going to find anyone. what part of that don't you understand

[Inthecraphole]

There has to be some way

[Opinion Owner]

no there isn't

[Anonymous]

Women today are universally whores by yesteryears standards, lower your expectations and find one that is at least decent-ish.

[Drzen]

Good , men are awaking. With some blue cunt pilled you're insecure. SMH

[AngelMegumin]

At 20 ? Don't even start deluding urself.

[Inthecraphole]

I can date girls as young as 18, maybe even 17 almost 18. I met this girl without a romantic past or even a male friend before she met me, although I wasn't her type.

[AngelMegumin]

First love happens at 14-15. So, don't. Choose a person, that will care for you, has enough experience and will c u through.

[AngelMegumin]

In addition, when a person is over 18 and still has no romantic experience, that's a potential red flag tbh.

[Inthecraphole]

Well maybe if a woman is smart enough and knows there is a guy out there like me who wants something serious, can provide, and is decently attractive, maybe she will reconsider giving her heart out to some other guy in her youth.

[Inthecraphole]

I met a girl just like that, but she was homeschooled her entire life in a strictly devout Catholic family in rural Illinois.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

The fact you are depressed does not mean the globe is all shite

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

Rural type areas sound like a good bet for innocence. Probably the bible belt too.

[Flower7]

Gold diggers don't tend to be virgins.

[Redstang88]

Money has nothing to do with it

[Inthecraphole]

Why do you say that?

[Redstang88]

Not a relevant factor

[Inthecraphole]

You don't think I can find a decently attractive girl 18 or older that has never had her first love or a boyfriend before she meets me?

[Redstang88]

Not likely

[Inthecraphole]

I find it hard to believe I cannot find at least one girl that is decently attractive and never had a first love. She can be shy. She doesn't have to be a supermodel or anything like that.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

Money is a _very_ relevant factor for a man to be able to finance living with someone young and inexperienced.

[Redstang88]

Odds are extremely slim, certainly for anyone anywhere near age appropriate. People have crushes, people date, that’s how life works. If I remember correctly you’re no exception.
And looking for someone based on a checklist rather than who they are as a person will end badly every time

[Redstang88]

@ThatNoUVAtYourEyes It eventually comes into play, but it’s not really a factor for 2 people hitting it off. I’ve had relationships start when I was a broke unemployed student, and now making a 6 figures I’m far too tired and stressed out to have any chance of starting something meaningful

[Anonymous]

Are you good looking?

[Opinion Owner]

18 is too young for you

[Opinion Owner]

Your dating range should be from 22 to 27

[Inthecraphole]

Tell me how I can find a women 22 to 27 that has never had her first love or a romantic past.

[Opinion Owner]

Try going for conservative girls

[Avicenna]

Almost certainly not

[Inthecraphole]

Why not?

[Anonymous]

you're weird! money doesn't equal virginity!

[Inthecraphole]

Money aside, you think I can find a young woman like that?

[Opinion Owner]

im a 23 year old virgin, never even French kissed before or had a boyfriend and I have my own money and I don't care if the guy I'm dating is broke or not

[Inthecraphole]

I really bad want a girl like you. I found one recently but I wasn't her type. She never even had a male friend before me! I so bad want me and a woman to be each other's first loves.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

I... beg to differ.

[Inthecraphole]

@ThatNoUVAtYourEyes why?

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

Good for you. I doubt it but in case it true - good for you

[Opinion Owner]

@ThatNoUVAtYourEyes I'm not lying. want a picture of my hymen? lmao

[Inthecraphole]

In all honesty, I would love to see you naked. But it isn't proper for me to ask you for any nude images. I want to be respectful. Do you think maybe we both can talk sometime?

[Inthecraphole]

I really wanna get to know you!

[77edith]

"want a picture of my hymen? lmao " She is a keeper! lmao

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

What a very good q!

[Jouth]

Maybe if you buy one

[Inthecraphole]

Women aren't products to purchase. Although, I am hoping my wealth can open up opportunities.

[Jouth]

You need to be good at talking to women, or just talking to people in general. Charisma. It just takes practice and a bit of optimism. Without that, money won't get you anywhere. You might find a gold digger type of dynamic, but that's not what you want.

[Anonymous]

Possibly, it is hard

[Inthecraphole]

Even if I manage to get in decent shape and make good money? I am short in height though at 5'6".

[Opinion Owner]

The kind of girl who is still a virgin probs doesn’t much care about finding the hottest guy in my opinion probs more looking for romance and commitment

[Inthecraphole]

That is what I an wanting is something serious, romance and commitment