At first I felt refreshed seeing a female ask this question. Then I read further and became dissapointed. You need to understand that most women do this because they view men as things, and not as people. They just wanna leech off of men, and use their money, so that they can do nothing and live well. This is why there's so many female insta models/influencers, onlyfans users, cam girls etc. They do this partly because feminism allows them, partly due to social media, and partly due to many men being "simps". I am also against this, as you can see, but apparently for completely different reasons.
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You realize the old ass rich men that pay for sugar babies are the bad ones? they aren’t victims, studies show men that pay for that crap are more likely to be porn addicts. They literally just want someone they can control.
Sure there are some men who are used but it’s not nearly as much as how men on average will try to lie about wanting a deeper relationship with a women just cause they want to sleep with her.
The truth is many men think like this and a lot don’t even realize it but they’re so brainwashed to the point they think it’s normal. Some even praise this behavior
Because of the bipolar unspoken culture war between "traditional morals" and "secular hedonistic lifestyle choice". Normies are caught in the middle and dont want to admit it, so they go with stupid popular trends
I think it’s not the way to live. But everyone has their own way they like to live. Or a certain lifestyle they want to achieve. So can’t blame anyone for their hustle. Just don’t push it on to the kids!!!
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Yeah, nah, I'm convinced you don't understand the motives of some girls being gold diggers. it is as simple as being in a relationship for money and giving sex. if you still don't understand it, then nobody can help you. also i don't see gold diggers being promoted. Girls are offended by just hearing these 2 words together.
Just one more reason I hate Tiktok and think it should be banned, I know the dating sites will still exist, but it's the targeting I hate. Tiktok is the most dangerous platform around at the moment.
ON dating apps, easily 1/3 of the matches I get are girls looking for sugar. I just block them now. When I slide the age preference up you can see plenty of Old Sugar Mammas looking for sugar boys too.
Everyone exchanges something to get what they want. Why go out with a bumbling 20 year old who will mooch off you? When you can date a successful older man that can do something for you? And I do mot mean just money here... mentorship, life coaching, etc.
There is nothing wrong with it so long as you ate open, honest and ethical about it.
I don’t use tick tock so I don’t see it. I know it’s an app for mostly young girls. Prime place for them to be taken advantage of. I think it’s up to the parents to monitor their daughters phone habits
Well because a lot of people are lazy and don’t feel as if they need to work for a living or it’s something that they can easily do to utilize their bodies. Also there’s a other side of it catering to a sexual fantasy or kink
meh, you could say the same for any type of "traditional" dating too.
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I agree with you it is annoying I'm sick of being used for money and being left for rich men. It's like these women never heard of a job and expect to steal money they did not earn and used those gifts to move on to the next man to pay them. And many men see past tinder and onlyfans as dealbreakers so some those women who wasted young years end alone it's so sad
Those girls don’t have good morals. We reap what we sew. It’s like what the hell, I can’t make a productive life with out a man so I might as well use what Mother Nature gave me.
It’s gross, really really gross.
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Where's it being promoted? It's "wrong" on so many levels, but if BOTH parties agree and completely willing, then to each their own.
@joeee124647 Well same can be said for the other person as well. They know what they're doing definitely. And I view it more as the other person is taking advantage of them for financial gain, vs perversion. But I agree, not right either way. But if they are both willing and know what they're doing, then it's only "wrong" if someone's getting hurt. If they don't think it's wrong, then it really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. It's not them in the situation.
There's also a lot of cases where sex isn't involved even. Sometimes the person is just lonely and wants company, and is willing to pay for it. Then the other person is taking advantage of THEM in my opinion. Pure selfishness.
I want to find out where you see these people who are just lonely and want company? When you’re lonely and want company you don’t go find a sugar baby, you go and find a friend
And I don’t understand why you’re acting like it’s the sugar babies who own the sites. It’s other men that own these sites which promote sugar babies getting money for sexual favors with old men who might even be cheating on their wife.
There's websites out there for that. Usually sex is involved, but not always. Or that's the impression I get anyway. I've never been a part of it so maybe not?
The world's oldest profession is prostitution. Plus it's just a QUICK way to make a lot of money. Lots of people need to resort to quick ways to make lots of money
No scenario is O. K. that promotes assault or use of force, financially or physically.
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"A lot of girls are sexually assaulted or r*ped on the job"
On the job? I'm not sure you know what a sugar baby is.
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You’re proving my point. Exactly why being a sugar baby is a harmful job that’s dehumanizing is because there are many men that think there’s nothing immoral about viewing women as objects. There are men like you that think if you pay a certain amount of money you are free to do whatever you want to a woman.
This behavior is especially pervasive in our society. News flash, men aren’t owed sex because womens bodies aren’t commodities that can be bought and sold.
If you don’t believe me you can read the many stories of ex sugar babies who have been sexually assaulted and raped:
Gotta love how naïve little girls like you try to make the women in a sugar baby/sugar daddy relationship out to be victims and men perpetrators. You are clueless.
Look carefully at the photo you posted. Are you really this dumb?
I never brought up gender once because men and women can be sugar babies. It’s mostly old men and young women though and you realize that
Answer this one question, do you seriously think a relationship between a significantly younger girl who is financially dependent on the money received from her sugar daddy and a significantly older wealthier sugar daddy could ever be mutually beneficial? The answer is no because that kind of relationship is what perfectly sets up a power imbalance that leaves the girl in a position to be abused.
Apparently caring about women is seen as being dumb and clueless now a days because men can’t fathom the idea that sex work is messed up and exploitative meaning the men that buy sex are disgusting since they actively contribute to the brutality women in these industries face daily
Of course it's mutually beneficial and that's why women CHOOSE to do it. The women use the men for their money and status and the men use the women for their sexuality. It's a mutually agreed upon and mutually beneficial relationship. Your childishly gynocentric view of it is comical. Grow the fuck up.
No point of arguing with them about this. Men are backwards. It’s the fact that these men are old enough to be these girls dads they know better. Yet in the comments they blame the women.
@backdoorman Exactly! It's a mutually agreed upon arrangement from which both parties benefit, which is why they both CHOOSE to enter into it. That's not to say it's not possible for either party to take advantage of the other, but there is nothing inherent in the relationship that would harm either person.
The victim mentality of some people is just crazy.
But regardless, your claim that sugar baby / sugar daddy relationships are an indication that old men are abusing young women is not supported by the age gap argument anyway. There is nothing inherently abusive about those relationships. Both partners CHOOSE to enter into them for the purpose of getting their own needs met. That's all in the world it is. No one forces anyone to choose them. They do it of their own accord.
If you understood anything about math you would know that the mean is meaningless as an indication of frequency. Here is some study material to help you with your math challenges
And by the way, yes you ARE the one who brought gender into the discussion by accusing "men like me" of thinking there’s nothing immoral about viewing women as objects. Your words.
Women who CHOOSE to participate in these relationships are the ones who are selling their sex. No one is forcing them to do that. It is no more immoral for men to buy sex than it is for women to sell it. And women are no more "victims" in that arrangement than men are. Get a clue.
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At first I felt refreshed seeing a female ask this question. Then I read further and became dissapointed. You need to understand that most women do this because they view men as things, and not as people. They just wanna leech off of men, and use their money, so that they can do nothing and live well. This is why there's so many female insta models/influencers, onlyfans users, cam girls etc. They do this partly because feminism allows them, partly due to social media, and partly due to many men being "simps". I am also against this, as you can see, but apparently for completely different reasons.
You realize the old ass rich men that pay for sugar babies are the bad ones? they aren’t victims, studies show men that pay for that crap are more likely to be porn addicts. They literally just want someone they can control.
Sure there are some men who are used but it’s not nearly as much as how men on average will try to lie about wanting a deeper relationship with a women just cause they want to sleep with her.
The truth is many men think like this and a lot don’t even realize it but they’re so brainwashed to the point they think it’s normal. Some even praise this behavior
It’s not a good way‼️ Don’t do it ‼️
That being said, I keep finding myself at the same Brick and Mahogany designed 🍸 🍸🍸🍸 bar. 🤔
Obviously, I enjoy basic elements and a quality Design🤪
Because of the bipolar unspoken culture war between "traditional morals" and "secular hedonistic lifestyle choice". Normies are caught in the middle and dont want to admit it, so they go with stupid popular trends
I think it’s not the way to live. But everyone has their own way they like to live. Or a certain lifestyle they want to achieve. So can’t blame anyone for their hustle. Just don’t push it on to the kids!!!
Yeah, nah, I'm convinced you don't understand the motives of some girls being gold diggers.
it is as simple as being in a relationship for money and giving sex.
if you still don't understand it, then nobody can help you.
also i don't see gold diggers being promoted. Girls are offended by just hearing these 2 words together.
But being a sugar baby is a choice. There is nothing wrong with that
Oh, yeah...❤️❤️❤️❤️
Just one more reason I hate Tiktok and think it should be banned, I know the dating sites will still exist, but it's the targeting I hate. Tiktok is the most dangerous platform around at the moment.
ON dating apps, easily 1/3 of the matches I get are girls looking for sugar. I just block them now. When I slide the age preference up you can see plenty of Old Sugar Mammas looking for sugar boys too.
Everyone exchanges something to get what they want. Why go out with a bumbling 20 year old who will mooch off you? When you can date a successful older man that can do something for you? And I do mot mean just money here... mentorship, life coaching, etc.
There is nothing wrong with it so long as you ate open, honest and ethical about it.
I don’t use tick tock so I don’t see it. I know it’s an app for mostly young girls. Prime place for them to be taken advantage of. I think it’s up to the parents to monitor their daughters phone habits
Parents can’t monitor their kids forever.
Well because a lot of people are lazy and don’t feel as if they need to work for a living or it’s something that they can easily do to utilize their bodies. Also there’s a other side of it catering to a sexual fantasy or kink
meh, you could say the same for any type of "traditional" dating too.
I agree with you it is annoying I'm sick of being used for money and being left for rich men. It's like these women never heard of a job and expect to steal money they did not earn and used those gifts to move on to the next man to pay them. And many men see past tinder and onlyfans as dealbreakers so some those women who wasted young years end alone it's so sad
Those girls don’t have good morals. We reap what we sew. It’s like what the hell, I can’t make a productive life with out a man so I might as well use what Mother Nature gave me.
It’s gross, really really gross.
Where's it being promoted? It's "wrong" on so many levels, but if BOTH parties agree and completely willing, then to each their own.
Both parties can agree but still one has lived way longer and understands more so there for they know they’re being perverted but anyways
@joeee124647 Well same can be said for the other person as well. They know what they're doing definitely. And I view it more as the other person is taking advantage of them for financial gain, vs perversion. But I agree, not right either way. But if they are both willing and know what they're doing, then it's only "wrong" if someone's getting hurt. If they don't think it's wrong, then it really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. It's not them in the situation.
There's also a lot of cases where sex isn't involved even. Sometimes the person is just lonely and wants company, and is willing to pay for it. Then the other person is taking advantage of THEM in my opinion. Pure selfishness.
I want to find out where you see these people who are just lonely and want company? When you’re lonely and want company you don’t go find a sugar baby, you go and find a friend
And I don’t understand why you’re acting like it’s the sugar babies who own the sites. It’s other men that own these sites which promote sugar babies getting money for sexual favors with old men who might even be cheating on their wife.
There's websites out there for that. Usually sex is involved, but not always. Or that's the impression I get anyway. I've never been a part of it so maybe not?
It goes both ways, there's sugar mama's also
The world's oldest profession is prostitution. Plus it's just a QUICK way to make a lot of money. Lots of people need to resort to quick ways to make lots of money
No scenario is O. K. that promotes assault or use of force, financially or physically.
"A lot of girls are sexually assaulted or r*ped on the job"
On the job? I'm not sure you know what a sugar baby is.
You’re proving my point. Exactly why being a sugar baby is a harmful job that’s dehumanizing is because there are many men that think there’s nothing immoral about viewing women as objects. There are men like you that think if you pay a certain amount of money you are free to do whatever you want to a woman.
This behavior is especially pervasive in our society. News flash, men aren’t owed sex because womens bodies aren’t commodities that can be bought and sold.
If you don’t believe me you can read the many stories of ex sugar babies who have been sexually assaulted and raped:
endsexualexploitation.org/.../
crimereads.com/the-dark-side-of-sugar-dating/
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...pay-sex-doesnt-pay.html
www.ajc.com/.../?outputType=amp
www.carlsonattorneys.com/.../amp
nypost.com/.../
www.odt.co.nz/.../sugar-dating-warning-woman-says-she-was-raped-sugar-daddy
Gotta love how naïve little girls like you try to make the women in a sugar baby/sugar daddy relationship out to be victims and men perpetrators. You are clueless.
Look carefully at the photo you posted. Are you really this dumb?
I never brought up gender once because men and women can be sugar babies. It’s mostly old men and young women though and you realize that
Answer this one question, do you seriously think a relationship between a significantly younger girl who is financially dependent on the money received from her sugar daddy and a significantly older wealthier sugar daddy could ever be mutually beneficial? The answer is no because that kind of relationship is what perfectly sets up a power imbalance that leaves the girl in a position to be abused.
Apparently caring about women is seen as being dumb and clueless now a days because men can’t fathom the idea that sex work is messed up and exploitative meaning the men that buy sex are disgusting since they actively contribute to the brutality women in these industries face daily
Of course it's mutually beneficial and that's why women CHOOSE to do it. The women use the men for their money and status and the men use the women for their sexuality. It's a mutually agreed upon and mutually beneficial relationship. Your childishly gynocentric view of it is comical. Grow the fuck up.
No point of arguing with them about this. Men are backwards. It’s the fact that these men are old enough to be these girls dads they know better. Yet in the comments they blame the women.
@backdoorman Exactly! It's a mutually agreed upon arrangement from which both parties benefit, which is why they both CHOOSE to enter into it. That's not to say it's not possible for either party to take advantage of the other, but there is nothing inherent in the relationship that would harm either person.
The victim mentality of some people is just crazy.
@joeee124647 No, unlike you and QA, I'm not blaming anyone here.
And large age differences are common in dating and marriage, too. Do you see those as a case of a man victimizing a women too? Come on now.
How do you people find a way to blame men for literally everything? It's incredibly disingenuous.
Lol, large age differences are NOT common in dating or marriage.
I don't know who told you that but they’re lying. in marriages the mean gap is only 2.2 years, with the most common gap being one year.
Actually, statistics show that nearly 1 in 10 marriages have an age gap of at least 10 years, with many having a much large gap.
en.wikipedia.org/.../Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships
But regardless, your claim that sugar baby / sugar daddy relationships are an indication that old men are abusing young women is not supported by the age gap argument anyway. There is nothing inherently abusive about those relationships. Both partners CHOOSE to enter into them for the purpose of getting their own needs met. That's all in the world it is. No one forces anyone to choose them. They do it of their own accord.
If you understood anything about math you would know that the mean is meaningless as an indication of frequency. Here is some study material to help you with your math challenges
www.cuemath.com/.../
And by the way, yes you ARE the one who brought gender into the discussion by accusing "men like me" of thinking there’s nothing immoral about viewing women as objects. Your words.
Women who CHOOSE to participate in these relationships are the ones who are selling their sex. No one is forcing them to do that. It is no more immoral for men to buy sex than it is for women to sell it. And women are no more "victims" in that arrangement than men are. Get a clue.
You are slut shaming women right now, blame feminism
@fauentes I wouldn’t be to worried about it probably some loser made this post anyways like why the hell There’s a pic of a 13 year girl on here?
Why do have a picture of a 14
Year old girl that’s disturbing
I don’t know if she’s 14 ?
Honey you look older than her you not that much older that's what the term sugar Bay comes from