Was Ricky Bobby right when he said "you gotta win to get love?

[KrakenAttackin]

YES, you gotta win to get love.

NO

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I should have specified that this question was mainly directed at men.

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As a Drill Instructor said to us at OCS, "second place is the first one in the graveyard".

[Rosexøxø]

Well at the very least,

have a winning attitude about self and life- can mean positive outlooks or vision, to create positive environments for others, or at the very least: an environment for self, that can be hospitable to others.

Because not everyone has 'full-winning periods' in life. Athletes' history, marketing business' stocks, and movie box office results to name a few, prove this.

Life fluctuates. SOMETIMES winning comes in intervals; perfection is

*usually* not a destination, but a journey.

Only mature people would realize this, in relationships,

and I think that starts with family. Realize they're not perfect, adjust expectations realistically, and love people wherever they stand.

If we're winning ourselves, we can love anybody.

Ricky Bobby just happened to say a line of words that would make some very unfortunate people to believe that, only because it seemed to be fitting in their *misfortunate* situation at a time.

[Rosexøxø]

I think that line is important out of my whole response: If We're winning ourselves, we can love anybody.

This only means if a woman isn't winning in life she will only be drawn to a man who is winning, or has a winner's mentality/ approach. So those who aren't full-time winners in the men demographic: don't feel bad- a lot of men have felt similar, and can relate to you, and furthermore that a woman's choice in a mate can only reflect her lack of wealth/ and need.

It just means we're all human, and many many many of us are not total Billionaires. lol

Win for yourself- man or woman- and you can love anybody. Others who feel like they're winning will be able to focus and give us love. Then there are the rare gems, who aren't winning, but offer love without hesitation. Lucky are we to have souls like them.

[meetkitty123]

Win? Win what?🤔 I want some lovin' ❤️💋what do I have to win? To get some sugar? 😉

[KrakenAttackin]

@meetkitty123. You are a winner darlin'

[meetkitty123]

Thank you 💋

[mr4435669]

At ur age u will not win.

[Iron_Man]

He can win in sports look at Bernard Hopkins winning the championship of the world in boxing 🥊 in his 50s Look at George Forman winning the world heavyweight championship at the age of 45. That’s winning. And if he’s not good at sports he can win at life the question asker

[MCheetah]

@meetkitty123
It applies to men only.

[KrakenAttackin]

@MCheetah True, I should have clarified that.

[KrakenAttackin]

@mr4435669 The definition of winning changes as you get older, but still, women do not tolerate losers.

[meetkitty123]

Well men lets define loser.
Abuser
Drug user
Alcoholic
No car
Doesn't work (not because of a legitimate disability or veteran/military)
Smoocher
Gambler
Wealthy but cheap penny pincher
Hateful
Racist
Player
Womanizer
Animaler hater
Annoyed by children
Never gives to any charity
can't co manage household chores
can't co mange household bills (exception to these two would be if there's a legitimate disability)
can't co tend to children or co parent
Am not sure why relationships go astray but a lot of the guys I've spoken to here have good qualities and sadly broken hearts. The way I see it sometimes there aren't good or bad people but just bad fits. A couple can be a good people individually and a bad fit together... Just not meant for each others. We just have to not give up and not beat up on each others because we broken up so many times before. Its better to break up sooner than to stay in a bad relationship because we are afraid people will judge us for our "body counts" or whatever other nonsense. Its important to keep trying to find that good fit that very well could be out there waiting for us.

[meetkitty123]

@mcheetah
@KrakenAttackin
Lol I seriously doubt men when deadbeat wives dont cook don't clean dont dont bathe dont work dont comb their hair wearing raggedy dirty ts and sweat pants all day

[meetkitty123]

*want
Typo

[mr4435669]

Women have sex with loser men as long as they are attractive. Women only demand that the man be a winner when they want a beta male provider for marriage. Alpha fucks, beta pays.

[meetkitty123]

@mr4435669 why do you care about women who are so low who would sleep with such men? Those are not the types of women men marry anyways

[mr4435669]

All men marry such women, such women have free sex with sexually attractive men in their youth, this has been going on since high school, for example, men with lower grades have more sex and have sex much earlier than men with better qualifications, then when those women want to have children, they look for a beta provider (the "winner") who is dumb enough to ignore or accept her dubious past and marry her, all women have a promiscuous past, they just know hide it.

[meetkitty123]

@mr4435669 oh well nothing to worry about then loser men keep loser women then

[meetkitty123]

The only thing that could make a peron a loser is being toxic physically or mentally not pulling your own weight being selfish self centered and not being co partner.

[meetkitty123]

And one person may not mesh well with someone but mesh perfectly with another.
Example a woman with excellent business skills but a bad cook may not blend well with a man who expects a woman to have dinner on the table every night however she may be a perfect match for an elite gourmet chef who can't balance a check book even if his life depended on it. He probably find her lack of cooking skills adorable and enjoy spoiling her.

[MCheetah]

@mr4435669
It's actually "Alpha f*cks, Beta bucks." But yeah, you're right. Women from 16 to 29 only want the 6'1+ Chad with abs. When they turn 30-35, then they're willing to settle for the 5'10" 140 pound prematurely balding wimp who makes "just enough" as an accountant for them to marry for 5-10 years before bleeding him dry.

Love is long dead and it's mostly women who killed it.

[OpenClose]

I feel like that's the counter-message to the whole message of the movie. Gotta win to get love. First or last. You either come in first or you don't matter. He held that belief the whole time because he dad said it, but he discovers it was just some drunken rant.

Been ages since I've seen the movie though.

[MCheetah]

His dad was right, though.

[msc545]

Women don't like losers.

[KrakenAttackin]

@msc545. I would take it a step further and say women will not tolerate a loser.

[msc545]

Yes, absolutely. More nuanced and accurate than my description, thanks!

[Rangers]

With how trashy, unloyal and morally bankrupt people are today, that's absolutely the case with 99% of people.

But on the off chance that you're one of the 1% of good people and on the triple unicorn like event that you somehow find another 1%er, you've hit the jackpot in a big way

[Anonymous]

For men, yes. Women often wait at the finish line waiting for the winners of the race. Only the men who are born with really good genetics, don't have to prove themselves via accumulation of wealth/status to find "love".

It's even supported by marriage data that extends over 50 years.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Women don't run the race with you... they wait at the finish line and try to seduce the winners.

[Guy13]

Yep 👍, winners get Laid and Losers get laid out.

[Anonymous]

Sort of. You can be a complete loser and if she don't see you that way then you're still in. Conversely you can win more then DJ Khaled and if considers you a loser then you're still a loser.

So to answer it's less reality and more what her perception is.

[Macaron02]

Everyone has different opinions, and love is one of them some like winners, but some strive for their own path, to find the one, winner or not. Because love isn't something you can control, it just happens.

[Anonymous]

Every once in a while I hear his voice in my head "if you ain't first, yur' last" and just laugh historically like an insane person

[Opinion Owner]

hysterically**
I can't spell

[Filthy_Immigrant]

if you are a man then yes cause no woman wants to "love" a loser

[Likes2drive]

Yeah probably, I also like was his dad said, you’re either first or you’re last

[MCheetah]

Pretty much, yeah. From women, at least. Maybe if you have a good family, you don't have to.

[mr4435669]

Only men who are not attractive need to make merits, bone, win, to get love, attractive men have free sex with club harlers.

[Fuentes]

Yes u do of you don't win you don't get shit.

[VIVANT]

Love is the win ❤️🥰

[KrakenAttackin]

@VIVANT. Great, if not overly optimistic, answer.

[Allyfax]

Fuck no , thats fake love bro you get shallow chicks and real woman learn to know the difference, the devil is in the details

[Jay3344]

I’ve seen people lose and receive love through sympathy many times. Love doesn’t care about petty things like winning or losing.

[KrakenAttackin]

@jay3344. Bruh, women get dryer than the Sahara when a guy "loses" (i. e. loses his job, doesn't get the big raise, can't provide on a level she thinks she deserves).

[Jay3344]

Bruh, love isn’t just sexual

[KrakenAttackin]

@jay3344. If you lose your job, become disabled or seriously I'll, you will watch her "love" evaporate like a cup of water in the dessert. Women love men for what they can do/provide, not just for who we are. The moment you cease to do/provide, she will walk.

[Jay3344]

And a parents love does that? A brothers or sisters? A friends? I mean bruh I think your reasoning lacks scope

[KrakenAttackin]

@jay3344. This is a list about romantic relationships, I thought that was readily apparent.

[Jay3344]

😂 lol

[AngryCarl]

Actually most women prefer a lovable loser to a successful jerk. Men have to win for their own ego but it has nothing to do with love.

[KrakenAttackin]

@angrycarl. You are kidding, right?

[AngryCarl]

I'm going to trust the girls on this one.

[RolandCuthbert]

Help me Tom Cruise!!!

[RolandCuthbert]

Oh, by the way, I don't agree. Women will fall for a confident loser over a unsure winner.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Oh my God, that’s Dr. Rick Marshal!

[OddBeMe]

Well…yeah he is.

[Joker_]

I think so

[Subarugirl]

If you have to win to get love than it isn't love

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl. Than why do so many wives leave their husbands when the husband loses his job? Answer:. He is no longer a "winner".

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin why do so many men abandon their wives when she is diagnosed with cancer?

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl. Other way around princess.

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin
That is blatantly false...
www.reuters.com/.../us-partners-health-idUSTRE5AB0C520091112

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin in fact men are six times more likely to abandon their wife if she is diagnosed with cancer than women are.
awarenessact.com/.../

[Subarugirl]

Here is the study...
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26315504/

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl. Bullshit. I do not believe it. I bet if we dig the study was funded by "NOW".

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin was it? Or is it just a hard pill for you to swallow?

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl. You know basic female nature.

[Subarugirl]

So was it sponsored by The Who? Or are you just mad because reality sucks?

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl. You can't escape divorce statistics and who files for divorce 80% (90% if college educated) of the time: women.

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin at least they aren’t the ones abandoning their sick spouses…

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl Just not true and you know it. Women bounce like a bad check when their husband becomes sick, disabled, loses his job, or simply begins to suffer normal deterioration. Why? You women have such enlarged egos that you always think you can "do better". You just wait for the wall Princess. When you bounce on your husband you will see just how hard it is to get another man who really gives a shit about you.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl. As a female living life on easy mode, this is true.

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin Actually it is true... and all you have to do is rub two brain cells together and look into it, but you would rather burry your head in the sand than confront any evidence that contradicts your own preconceived notions.

My husband was broke and didn't even have a job when we got married, so you can think what you like and project your own failed marriage onto everyone else but just because you are unable to maintain a relationship doesn't mean that is the case for everyone else.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Subarugirl. Yes, yes, we all know you are super woman. Also you were pregnant and you saw potential in your husband and his family. Additionally, you have doubts about your marriage and I will bet you file for divorce within five years.

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin I'm not superwoman, I'm just competent, and worked my ass off to support my family. I don't have doubts about my marriage, I've never been more sure about anything. You know trying to drag others down isn't going to make you feel better right?