When will you understand that women can have have trouble getting dates too?

[Anonymous]

I'm a female, and every guy hates me. They seem to do everything they can to avoid me, and trashy couples constantly mock me for being single.
Seriously, males treat me like shit. I got one date and he made up a bullshit excuse to not actually want to date me, and up to this point, he's still the only date I've gotten.

I'm not even treated like I'm a person, more like a disgusting dog's chew toy that someone left laying around. And yet, these mfers still have the nerve to claim I only want goddamn Chad. I do my best to avoid Chad because those things treat me the worst. I'm outwardly rude to tall or conventionally attractive guys because I don't want them assuming I have a crush on them.
I don't want fucking Chad. Yet you still won't believe me because you need an excuse to throw tantrums. My highest standard is I don't want to date a guy outside of my age range, or my physical range, which is about 17-21 and 2 hours away max, and if that makes them a "Chad" then you have really weird ideas.

[William7489]

I’m sure that guys do understand, but the dating experience for men is so awful that you just can’t expect to get a great deal of sympathy. I’m truly sorry for how bad it is for you. And I do mean that. However for men, the dating experience is fear-based These days. It’s all about money for the most part, and a lot of women are very different. I know men can be very bad but when men get shot down or cheated on or left for somebody with more money it is a soul destroying experience. And remember, eight out of every 10 marriages are ended by females. It’s getting harder and harder for men to be appealing to women before marriage and even during marriage. Guys live in an age where everything is in flux. People still expect us to act like a gentleman but we’re still told that we are part of a misogynistic problem. It’s a tricky path to walk. So what I’m saying is yes we do understand that it’s bad for everybody. But the deck does seem stacked against men in the long run. I wish you the best of luck in the future.

[FilmGuy93]

A lot of guys just don't understand that women are attracted to a feeling you give them, not necessarily a set list of traits. Most men also don't realize just how much women detest the idea of being intimate with someone that doesn't give them that special feeling.

The idea that quantity has a quality all it's own simply doesn't apply to women's attraction because women's attraction is intellectual/emotional/sensory. Women can shorten their wishlists, but when it comes down to what they actually need a man to do for them, they literally lack the ability to lower their standards because it's a neurochemical reaction.

It doesn't matter to a woman if you're 95% of what she's looking for because if you don't have whatever that last 5% is, you just aren't going to rev her engine and she can't do anything about that. No amount of quantity can overcome her need to find a feeling she gets from talking with you, the way your voice entices her ears, the way your scent hits her nose, the way your skin and lips taste, or how safe she feels wrapped in your arms.

[MCheetah]

They can't and don't. They're just entitled/demanding/spoiled and ask for too much. End of story.

"My highest standard is I don't want to date a guy outside of my age range, or my physical range."
You try to prove you're not picky; still end up being picky. And this is just what you admitted to wanting; a 21 year old Chad with a perfect body (aka "in my physical range" aka "a 9 or 9.5 in looks.")

Yeah, you get zero f*cks from me. No sympathy. No condolences. Lots of other simps will White Knight or you though, hoping it'll lead to sex for them. But you know that.

This is female nature; literally starving to death and still demanding caviar and wagyu steak.

[Asker]

Physical range means distance, dumbass. I don't want to date a guy who's across the entire country. Mostly because I won't be able to see them. Are you trying to be stupid?

[MCheetah]

If you were a man, you'd literally be called an incel for even one of the things you said, let alone every single thing you've said on this entire post.

Sorry I mistook looks for distance (though you should've just said "distance" instead), but my point still stands: You're being picky and want all these things, including a very narrow age range of only a few years, and probably other things you wouldn't bother to admit such as looks and height, and then getting mad at people on the internet for it.

You're an 18 year old girl living in the technological age of simps and extremely weak, pathetic, thirsty men. It is literally impossible for you to not be able to find a boyfriend, let alone dozens of them, unless you're A) actually a tranny (which it sounds like it, based on your masculine and rude attitude), B) extremely ugly, like a two out of ten, which again at your age is doubtful, or C) have a horrendously awful personality.

I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume your rudeness is due to age and frustration, but regardless, men potentially better looking than you, have to go through worse every day, AND get labeled "incels, misogynists, sexists," etc., for even wanting love, let alone being horny. You have an endless sea of men out there that you're rejecting for being older than 22, too far away, and likely, too short and too unattractive looking as well.

Because again, it should be near impossible for you to not get someone as an 18-19 year old girl in today's day and age, aside from actually being a biological male or in the 1% of most-ugly in looks in personality. And even ugly women and feminists can still get simp men nowadays. Logically, there's only other explanation: it's you and your entitlement.

[Asker]

I know I'd be called an incel. That's part of why I wish they'd just stop acting like I don't have the same problems as them. I don't reject guys for being "ugly" and short, height really doesn't matter as much as you think it does. I shouldn't be dating older guys, and my parents don't want me too.

If they're from the internet they're like 10 times more likely to be a 50 year old serial killer, which I know I have suck high standards for not wanting. And if it's a long distance relationship, that's more like a pen pal than a boyfriend, and I won't be worth any effort to see. They will most likely break up with me before they even get the chance. All internet guys look for is nudes, that's what the "simps" you see want, which is not dating. I want to be touched, that's one of the most important things. Having some 30 year old send dick pics is nothing like that. It won't work, it just won't. I can just look up porn at that point.

[MCheetah]

Why not just go online, find someone to talk to, and tell him you won't meet up in person until X number of weeks have passed. You being a young woman, are acting like it's impossible to find someone when most women complain about too many ugly/short guys talking to them.

I bet you're likely not even black, overweight, or ugly. There's probably nothing physically wrong with you that any guy would reject you over, and you're likely being melodramatic. If your angry attitude doesn't scare anyone away, you could probably get 100 men messaging you in one day. So don't make any excuses about them all being "potential serial killers" or "too old for me at the age of 22" either.

[Asker]

Well they are too old and potential serial killers. Plus, they won't meet up with me is the main issue. The distance is too much for them, they just want to send dick pics, which, like I said, isn't a relationship.

[MCheetah]

Sounds like you're making excuses and assuming you know what people will do before you've even done anything. Can you predict the future? Can you read minds? You won't know until you do it. It just sounds like you've painted this imaginary picture in your mind to validate yourself as being right, and are too afraid to prove yourself wrong, so you do nothing and keep making excuses for it. Which I certainly know the fear of.

But you need to decide what's more important: Your delusions of being "undateable" as an 18-19 year old woman who's probably not obese, Ghetto, or manly, or finding your Simp in Cardboard Armor willing to be your perfect male slave, cause even guys like that exist out there for women, making "desperate women" non-existent. If you wallow in misery and keep making excuses, you literally only have yourself to blame. ... And I'll be proven right.

... But I already know I am. There's no such thing as an undateable biological healthy woman.

[Asker]

I can assure I will not be worth the trip. I seriously just want an appropriately aged guy I can touch, like a normal girl would have. Also, as for the mentions of "manly" and "healthy", I'm pretty damn sure I have pcos, so yes, I am manly, and I am unhealthy. You yourself called me masculine and assumed me to be transgender. I'm definitely manly.

[chicosuave]

This is awesome bro. Thanks for making my day 😂

[Avicenna]

OK, are you able to make friends with guys? Platonic friends. I'm not suggesting you friend a guy looking to eventually date him but spending time around guys will help you figure out how to relate to them better and make it easier for you to get dates.

[Asker]

I really hate the idea of being just friends with another guy. It's really stupid. I made friends with one male when I was a kid, and he still sees me as child me, so he's nice to me. But I really hate the dissonance between the common believe that leaving two opposite sex teenagers alone will lead to sexual activity, and the fact that that's not how it happens for me.

What I'm saying is, I don't like the idea of male friends because it means I'm not attractive enough to be anything else ever. It feels shitty.

[chicosuave]

You saying that already gives me the sense that your expectations are too high. There's a lot of good men out there but you choose the ones who treat you like shit cuz they don't need you and they have options. You're attracted to that I can tell. so don't generalize all men because I'm very sure the ones you reject are the nice dudes with good intentions.

[Asker]

I hate douchebags, I'm especially rude to them. They make me want to throw up. It's possible the so called nice guys are hiding somewhere, so I haven't had the chance to meet them, but they sure aren't coming out to help if that's so. Also, girls treat me pretty shitty too. And why would I specifically want to talk to bitches? Honestly, aside from me being female and you assuming they're all the same, I don't see where you got the idea that I only want to talk to assholes. I want to talk to any close aged male who somehow likes me or I think I maybe have a chance with, but that doesn't really happen.

[chicosuave]

Haha but your actions say something else. Your dating the douchebags. That's what you respond to

[Asker]

I'm not dating any douchebags, or looking for them, they wouldn't date me anyway because they're dating the bitches. If the one guy I went on a date with was a douchebag, he wouldn't lie about why he doesn't want to date me, he'd just say I'm unattractive or just straight up not say anything at all. My actions don't say something else either, because I told you I'm extra rude to douchebags.

But, if you're more comfortable with your bs beliefs, I won't keep trying to convince you otherwise, since apparently you have perfect x-ray vision into who I am because I'm not a person, just a female you don't like.

[Berethor]

A man is like a key, a woman is like a lock, women are the gatekeepers of sex, so it usually easy for women to find sex, so you likely very unattractive and/or you have very high expectations from men.

[coverboyoutlawbrady]

Well, assuming you're a hot white chick, have you considered us Bradys? (handsome black guys?) I'm guessing no. If you're... not hot, well, we lads (even at my age,69) are visual, so you may have to work on improving your appearance.

[Asker]

I can't. I already lost plenty of weight, I can't get plastic surgery, I wear the best possible clothes my parents can reasonably afford, I can't get plastic surgery because I'm a highschooler and my parents aren't going to pay for that, I shower everyday, I brush my hair, makeup makes me look worse if it's anything more than mascara and concealer, and I take the extra steps in both skincare and hair care that my can afford. I'm doing everything I can with the limited number of resources I have. A huge problem is my face is really long, which can't be fixed by makeup, and I have acne that won't go away. Not to mention, I can't get my hair to just stay down no matter how much product I put in.

[Anonymous]

Stop whining, do something about it. Life does not care, it’s cruel to many people. There’s people who are worse off than you are.

[Asker]

I literally can't, I'm just a highschooler. I lost weight if you're gonna suggest that, and I'm on the lower end of a healthy bmi. People have no idea what it's like to be ACTUALLY different, and repulsive. To have never been able to develop normally or be good enough for even a friend. I can't find anyone who's actually in a situation like mine. I know I have it better than some, and it doesn't help, no matter how mad that makes random 30 year old men.

[Opinion Owner]

People do know what it’s like to be different. They may not be different in the way you are but different in many other ways. Kids born w deformities, lost limbs, severe acne. While you may not fully understand what others go through they have challenges too. I lost two friends in 2006 in the Middle East. I guarantee they’d give anything to be alive if they could regardless of whatever problems they had. Not everyone is going to like you. I didn’t have much luck finding someone either. As for friends honestly I don’t have much friends, maybe one of that. You only need one good friend in life. I guarantee you all the people in high school even if you talked to a lot of them now you won’t be talking to them when you’re much older. There’s plenty of time. I know you may not think so because at your age your mind is still that of a young person, but as you get older you learn a lot of the bs you were concerned about as a teenager doesn’t even matter anymore. Hang in there. You’ll be fine. I used to whine some when I was younger, but than realized life is going to go on w or w out me regardless of whether I’m ready or not.

[Truthatanycost]

No one said there wasn't any exceptions to the rule...

[Asker]

People definitely said that. Clearly, you don't spend enough time on forums where everyone hates women

[Truthatanycost]

There are exceptions to everything in life and any time people make a comment, they are never talking about everyone.

[Asker]

Yep, but they don't believe me when I tell them because I'm female. Trust me, I've talked to them

[Anonymous]

Aw girl you're made for Brad Pitt & Ronaldo type celebratiies...✌️

[Asker]

What does that mean?

[AndrésC64]

If every guy hates you that sounds like a you problem.

[Anonymous]

well there's your problem you're an asshole and after reading this i would avoid you too

[Opinion Owner]

you're judging people you don't even know judging complete strangers

[Asker]

Being nice to conventionally attractive guys has only hurt me. If I'm not even a person to them, why should I be nice? It makes them uncomfortable when I'm nice too. Besides, they can handle it.

Also, I'm almost always right when I make assumptions, though maybe that's just confirmation bias.

[Opinion Owner]

wow you're an asshole

[Opinion Owner]

and no you're not always right you don't know what another person's been through or their hard journey in life. you are a judgmental jerk

[Asker]

I seriously doubt a conventionally attractive male, one who constantly gets positive attention from women who are 10 billion times more attractive, is gonna be actually hurt by me glaring at him or avoiding him. Especially when me being nice or casually looking at him grosses him out.

Besides, who are you to speak on judging others you don't know when you're judging me? You have no idea how hard life has been for me, and how almost every man I've been nice to has treated me like raw sewage. You yourself are making assumptions about me.

[Opinion Owner]

actually i do know because i'm not ugly by any means and women like you treat guys like me like complete shit for no reason at all.

[Asker]

Assuming you are actually a conventionally attractive male, you'd avoid me just for looking at you. You don't want ugly chicks trying to date you, so instead you make them feel like shit. You could just act like a normal human being, but you blatantly try to make it known that I'm not attractive.

[Opinion Owner]

wow you really are a jerk. i don't intentionally try to make anyone feel like shit unless they do it to me first even then i try holding off as long as possible. but if she keeps coming at me and attacking me then yeah i wil defend myself and call her out on her shit

[Opinion Owner]

you got a lot to learn about treating people right and having manners. you come off as a jerk and an asshole. you got a lot of maturing to do before you can meet someone who can treat you right and before that happens you got to learn to treat people better then you have been

[Asker]

I was nice to people for a long time, and all they did was hurt me. They hate me being nice, so why should I be nice? That makes no sense.

Besides, you'll let a girl know she's ugly to you before she even tries anything when you could just mind your own business and reject her if she, y'know, ACTUALLY TRIES to ask you out. But no, she's just so horribly disgusting, you have to get rid of her before she even gets near you.

[Opinion Owner]

you really got a lot to learn. physical looks appearance is part of nature's natural selection process. every animal in the entire animal kingdom does it. it's part of the mating process how partners are selected. there are some women guys will find attractive but other guys won't part of their genetics and what they deem as beautiful may not be so with other guys. women do it too. same type of thinking they just don't admit it of course

[Asker]

So, shitting on people for not being attractive to you is fair? Making sure people feel awful for being unattractive is ok? Okay, but I'm a big bully

[Asker]

I seriously do not see any logical reason to be nice to someone who's disgusted by me being nice. Being rude is basically how to treat them right, since they hate me being nice.

[Opinion Owner]

wow you really are an asshole. i never once said it was ok to treat people like shit. look i'm done with this conversation for your sake i hope you grow up and mature and treat people better

[Asker]

You have no idea what my situation really is. But, of course, that's the perspective of someone who's conventionally attractive. Don't assume for even a second that you know what it's like for me. There's still no reason to be nice if someone literally does not want you to be nice to them.

[Opinion Owner]

you think i haven't had people shit on me of course i have practically every damn day of my life. looks don't neccessarily mean people will treat you nice or treat you good. i still get shitted on and treated like crap.

[Asker]

You're still extremely lucky. You have options. You are who you were supposed to be. You have no idea what it's like to truly be wrong in societies eyes. So your friends make jokes about you, I'm nothing but a joke. Nobody will even go near me. You seriously have no idea what it's like. Every single person treats me like shit, and if I'm nice, they just try to get rid of me. They don't want someone like me in their life. They see me as a worthless, hideous, annoying grub. They'd sooner let me die then be nice to me.

[Opinion Owner]

wow you are way off.. i don't have options and yeah i have people treat me like shit. people walk into me and some won't even apologize after walking into me they just give me a dirty look and walk away

[Asker]

Sure, some people, that's gonna happen. How about try all people? Because that's my position, nobody likes me. No matter what I do, they all hate me.

[Opinion Owner]

I AM DONE WITH THIS DAMN CONVERSATION

[Asker]

Okay, you just kept talking so I figured you changed your mind

[Anonymous]

Yeah but only ugly women who are fat fuck.

For being brutally honest

[Opinion Owner]

* sorry for being brutally honest

[Asker]

I'm thin, but I have a long face. Then again, so does Kim Kardashian

[Opinion Owner]

I really don't how you look. So I can't say for sure

[Asker]

Whatever, you don't need to insult me anyway. Why would I assume I'm even slightly attractive if men treat me like shit?

[Opinion Owner]

I wasn't

[Asker]

That was an obvious indirect insult, even if not intended. I know I'm probably ugly, you don't have to tell me

[Shamalien]

Post a pic here and men will be interested

[Asker]

Older men at a long distance. And even if them being too old didn't bother me, I probably wouldn't be worth the trip

[Shamalien]

Great attitude you have there…looks like you don’t wanna be happy