When does a man lose his prime?

[RedPassion95]

If its 30's for women, then when for men?

[sunflower00]

This prime stuff is so fucking embarrassing and anyone who buys into it and genuinely believes it’s a thing is so depressing and spends way too much time on the internet. People who believe the only valuable thing about a woman is youth and fertility, and the only valuable thing about a man is money must be so lonely and chronically online. I see a guy in these comments like ‘well a woman’s value is her fertility and once that declines she’s worthless’…like wtf? People are not there to be used for their youth and money and become worthless after that? What about growing old together, enjoying spending time with someone, having a best friend for life? There’s so much to look forward to at every stage of life, there’s so much worth and benefit no matter someone’s age and it is possible to find love or happiness at any age also. What is actually up with this incel af belief?


My boyfriend and I are incredibly happy and I can’t wait to grow old with him. He makes less money than I do and I don’t even make much, do I care? No! He doesn’t want kids nor do I, he’s not only in it because the only thing I bring to the table is fertility! That is not a real relationship that’s like psychopath behaviour or what someone with no emotions would do. We enjoy each others company, like to try new things together, we like to eat new foods, travel, sit on the couch and watch tv, laugh together, sit in silence together and genuinely love each other. There is no expiry date on that!

[VanillaSalt]

Prime isn’t about being worthless or not it’s about being the most desirable piece of meat on the shelf. The best part of the bull. Individuals have their own primes but the people seeking them see their primes differently. To you your prime might be a point you were most capable and comfortable but to a man your prime might be when you were the most beautiful.

[sunflower00]

@VanillaSalt and that’s bullshit, people aren’t pieces of meat and you aren’t in a shop picking and choosing objects or slabs of meat at all it’s so dehumanising and cringe af as well! So happy I’m with a man who doesn’t see me like that

[VanillaSalt]

@sunflower00 Do you really think your husband saw you the same as some other woman when he asked you out? He wouldn’t have asked you out if you were just some other woman unless he wanted to get laid anyway lol.

Dehumanizing? Your the one putting down my views because you think their not worthy of your consideration. Who’s dehumanizing who? It’s perfectly acceptable for women to look for the best partner they can find but god help us if men have a preference right?

Go ask your husband if he saw you like other women when he asked you out. See if he didn’t value you more than them.

Only a fool looks at the world and thinks their way is best and if it’s not the way it’s done then the worlds wrong. You may not like it but before your husband ever asked you out he assessed if you were worth pursuing. Your value was tested next to what he wanted and what he had to choose from.

[sunflower00]

@VanillaSalt I’m not married, I’m in a relationship. You’re entitled to your opinion but it’s a horrible way to think and I genuinely feel sorry for people who think that way. He didn’t look at my qualities and think ‘she’s at peak fertility, that is the most important thing and she’s in her prime’. Relationships are about genuinely enjoying each others company and wanting to love and grow together, not a tactical transaction with no emotion (in my opinion). Disagreeing with you isn’t dehumanising, and neither is my point of view. Viewing human beings as objects and comparing them to meat on a shelf is dehumanising

[VanillaSalt]

@sunflower00 does your boyfriend enjoy upper beautiful body? Do you think he would prefer you to stay young forever or stay old together if he has to choose? What does it take for you women to understand your looks matter? It don’t t matter if it is the end all be all because the fact is men are attracted to beauty! Yeah sure after we’re attracted there’s more important things but without the initial attraction we’ll never see anything else… I can’t understand how hard that concept is to grasp.

I wish that weren’t the case but the fact is people want the fucking best they think they can get. You’re dumb if you think the first thing men notice about you is your personality. I’m sure they never looked at your ass or tits or even your smile before they noticed your humor… it’s time to wake up child and stop living in a fairy tale…

[VanillaSalt]

Ugh idc anymore. Your just ignorant. I can’t teach you if your unwilling to listen and comprehend from another perspective. Your a woman telling men how women think and we should think like you because we’re wrong… there’s nothing to gain from discussing this with you anymore.

[Lalarousse]

I’m seriously … tired of this prime shit.

you know what? You wanna be happy? Stop listening to those crappy videos on YouTube on how men see women and vice versa.

Life is Simple. Humans makes it complicated.
You’re a nice person, you’re responsable, honest, you take care of yourself and you’re good looking? No matter what’s your age or sex, you will find someone. GUARANTY.

If you’re a man, and think you can attract many women with money, You’re right ! But remember one thing, those women won’t stay with you after you lose everything and they won’t genuinely love you. Unless you want to live the single life, that’s fine.

so this prime shit, people need to flush it in the fucking toilet.

be happy ! Live a full life ! Live YOUR life and stop looking at what’s desirable and what’s not. Stop listening to those stupid YouTube videos and shit about primes and all that. That won’t make you happy because you’re living on a standard to what other people are expecting you to do or to be.

life is too damn short !

[drummerdude25]

I was ready to disagree with this post but I ended up agreeing 😅🤣

It’s important for people to know and acknowledge certain truths in life, yes, but there comes a time where people don’t need to be told these things anymore, just live and enjoy life and be your best self, be good to people and don’t worry about all the little nuances, seize opportunities and just let it happen the way it’s supposed to.

[sunflower00]

Yes!!!

[fonduegirl]

You hit the marks

[CoolCatMar1]

I. AGREE. WITH. YOUUU

[VanillaSalt]

I agree with all of this post but… it don’t change the fact men want beauty and children. It’s what most men value and the older you get the less of both women tend to have… you didn’t answer ops question.

[Lalarousse]

@VanillaSalt and women don’t want beauty and children? You think women don’t like handsome men or would’ve preferred to be with someone younger and more handsome? It goes both ways.

However, you can find someone beautiful and young… have babies with them but there is no chemistry. You guys don’t love each other. So what’s going to happen? Divorce, separation. Most of people marry young… and 50% of them will… divorce. That’s the reality.

Also, Arriving at a certain age, beauty and children don’t matter anymore or that much. You want peace of mind , respect, a great chemistry. You focus on those mostly. And then, if the person is also attractive, why not.

Not everybody thinks like you.

[VanillaSalt]

@Lalarousse silly girl. You only start dating someone because your attracted to them. Maybe you only saw them and thing they look hot maybe you’ve known them a while and you admire their personality but it’s attraction that drives dating choices.

Marriage is different. Marriage isn’t dating. Marriage comes after you’ve found someone your attracted to and dated to see if they have the foundation to marry.

You don’t even know how this shit works and your talking down to me? Though your not alone stupid people don’t understand this that’s why 50% of marriages end in divorce.

[Lalarousse]

@VanillaSalt

you are generalizing. True. Women fertility decline at a certain age. So if you’re a man who WANTS a family, you’re not going to start a serious relationship with a 40 years old woman.
But. You can be a young or older man who doesn’t want kids, because you already have kids or you don’t want kids, period. You can also be open to adopt children. So age don’t really and always matter. As long at the person is attractive in and out.

Finally, some people don’t care about the the outside beauty. Especially arriving at a certain age. They value other things. Yes physical attraction is important, but it’s not important for everybody.

And finaly to answer that question ( if we generalize ) . If we talk about sexual prime, men start losing it in their mid 40s ( yes they can still make babies, but their sperm count decrease and another question they need to ask themselves, do they have the energy to take care of kids and babies ? ). So a woman who wants a baby and still has eggs, will most likely go with someone that still has the energy to take care of a child with her. Most of men in their 40s don’t always have that energy. That’s why most of Men had kids before hitting 40. So as long as you have the energy and patience, all good.

For women. They start losing it in their late 30s because that’s biology.

talking down on you? Please. What did I say exactly to make you feel that way?

Everybody has their opinion.

[VanillaSalt]

@Lalarousse your giving hope to poor and weak men and ugly women… we’re talking about “prime” here which is the best… the best look good and are healthy. You can argue health includes ability to have kids.

And yes as you get older you have to accept you can’t have everything you want which is why more people are happier as they marry later. Counterpoint. Imagine the years they could have had if they didn’t take 40 years to learn this lesson?

You see most of the tip top men with younger women… look at Leonardo DiCaprio. It’s not ability energy it’s perceived status. The same isn’t true for women. Men and women want different things. YOU’RE generalizing. Not that this discussions possible without generalizing we’re talking about the entire human races dating habits with 2 points of reference…

I read “not everybody thinks like you” in a negative tone as a way of insulting how I think. That’s how people tend to use that phrase so it’s out of habit by now.

One thing I do want to point out… If “you’re a nice person, your responsible, honest, you take care of yourself, and your good looking” you will find someone. So if you have everything then your good right? That’s kind of a duh. You need priorities on what to focus if you want to be “successful” earlier in life. Like you said 40 yes old without energy for kids and all… I don’t wanna lose 40 years I could have spent building a family. It’s better to know main focuses of you want a family and build front here tailored to your ONE partner. I don’t like how easy you make it sound. It’s damn difficult.

[Anonymous]

You are incorrectly presupposing that such a direct equivalent exists.

It is a just a nonsense actually to suggest that there would be and demonstrates a profound lack of understanding of the subject.

The reason that a womans dating value can be broadly generalised in terms of age is because the value is based on youth and fertility etc but as a mans value is based on wealth and status etc there is no such relationship with age aside from the idea that a man might have accumulated some wealth over time.

ALL women have youth in their youth, obviously, but a mans wealth and status could be high or low at any age and never necessarily changes.

So please, pull your fucking head out of your ass and recognise that you are not and NEVER HAVE BEEN holding the short end of the stick.

[VanillaSalt]

Women don’t lose their prime in their 30s… it’s downhill from upper 20s. As much as women don’t wanna hear it beauty and fertility are driving factors for mens choice in partners. Slowly over time women become less pretty and less fertile and that’s a fact of life. They bring men less and less value over time.


What do women value? Men can give seed until the end. Men get better in their job and more mature as they age. Sure they may get older and lose the muscles so that’s downhill but the older more mature greys are just as desirable for what women are actually attracted to. I don't know what that is in words but it’s not having kids or beauty and that makes it harder for women.

[BlueScorpio]

40 to 60s and up. I see a lot sickly people at work okay, as men get older their health and life expectancy declines rapidly. A lot of strokes, heart attacks, high blood pressure, diabetes, transplants etc. That's not to say women don't experience these things as well cause they do, it's just very high among male patients. I see a lot wives in in the rooms with their sickly husband's daily so if your man please, please take care of yourself while still in your younger years...

[AmeerX]

How do you expect us to take care of ourselves?
We have families.
When we say we want a certain girl, the parent just tell us to shut up and listen to them. When the sisters do the same, the parents say, oh you poor thing, we will kidnap that boy if it that's what it takes.
When I want something, I have to earn it. The same can't be said about girls.
When you get a disease as a man, the employer will not give you a leave and if a woman gets a headache, she is off the hook.
And when you have children, men don't get leave from work, but I heard they are allowing women to get leave from work.

I said I like a white girl and everyone around looked at me as if I am a criminal and betrayed human race. While a cousin married a white guy and everyone is happy about it. So, how do you expect that men are going to be alright?

[AmeerX]

@Deed112ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ0 yes, we do take care of ourselves. I don't how you think but for men, it's the road less traveled. Our friendships with men are different. We don't talk about our problems that much and we surely don't get same level of treatment. You might say women are oppressed but how many? Is it all oppression if a girl so much as sneezes and her parents will come consoling her?
Look in real life and even in fantasy Princes have to work and we aren't even that. You can laugh if you like now @Deed1120

[AmeerX]

I am not a bitch and my body also keeps a heart too. I am not fat or uneducated either and I don't drink or smoke cigarettes or do drugs or go to clubs if you want to find my flaws

[AmeerX]

@Deed112ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ0 I was being sarcastic 🙄...

[AmeerX]

@Deed112ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ0 🤣 sorry I got carried away

[BlueScorpio]

@AmeerX honey, it's not heart. All you gotta do is just go to the doctor and get a physical at least once or twice throughput the year to make sure you're alright or least when you're feeling sick. You can still do these things even when you have a job or family, I still go to the doctor and get check ups or when I need medication. To many Men neglect themselves and don't see the importance of going to a doctor and getting doctor appointments. Then when they get sickly later on life, they expect their wife and kids to take on all the stress and care for them. Do your part as husband and father and make sure you are healthy so when of if you do get sick, it won't be a lot to handle for your family. Before my dad passed he use to get checks ups all the time, kept up with blood pressure, asthma etc. Everything.

[AmeerX]

Bluescorpio, thanks I appreciate it.
I hope people are really like you. I haven't settled yet but I do hope whenever I do I find a person as appreciative as you.

You are assuming all wives are going to be like you. Most wives can be pretty toxic and complaining and they don't care if there man lives or dies. Yes, kids look up to mother's mostly so that's that

[ManHater]

@Deed112ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ0real men take care of their families and put their lives on the line to put them first!

[RedPassion95]

@ManHater my dad sure didn't! 🤔

[BlueScorpio]

@ManHater unfortunately that's mot always the case, like some moms. My father was there for me but I have cousins in my family who's father weren't there for them and refuse to be part of their lives. My husband's dad is the exact same way, once he got remarried he completely dropped him and stop coming around. As if his son was suppose to disappear after a divorce.

[OfDeath]

So no more weekend binge drinking sessions?

[ManOnFire]

Lol. Is this supposed to be a counter to all the guys who talk about women losing their prime? Yeah that annoys me too.

[Chazmatazz269]

Depends on what exactly you’re asking. Sexual prime or sexual marketplace prime?
Last time i was reading on the topic, late teens to early twenties was typical sexual prime for boys and men. Sexual marketplace value though, men don’t necessarily get one of those. Contrary to a lot of nonsense perpetuated on sites like this, men are still valued almost exclusively for our willingness and ability to provide, protect and support. Boys and men who can’t or won’t do those things will never have a prime value. Kids these days refer to them as “incels”. That said, the value of a man who can and will do those things will rise almost indefinitely with age and income potential. Their prime is lost when that potential finally declines or ceases entirely.

[VanillaSalt]

I see two issues with what you said. One, the meaning of incel. Two, the value of men and boys that choose not to interact. Incel is for the ones that fail to attract women despite trying. Their angry and bitter at women for it usually which is why the term incel is an insult. Boys and men refer to the men that defend women from EVERYTHING without holding women accountable for their actions and words as white knights not incels.

MGTOW isn’t seen as a good thing but exists for a reason. Like you said men are exclusively seen as wallets and protection. When it comes to society and law women are always the priority especially family law. I can see plenty of reason for things like MGTOW to both exist and a necessity for it. Men and women only have value to the opposite sex in very specific ways until the two are involved and then usually both men and women value their partner for what they bring to their lives. The real conversation on marketplace value is before that while men and women decide arbitrary value to each other.

[Chazmatazz269]

I disagree. A boy or a man who chooses to not engage with females because he understands how the game is rigged will experience all of the same thoughts and feelings as the ones who actively risk rejection for whatever reason. In that way, there is no difference and therefore no issue with what i wrote. It’s not incumbent upon me to express every conceivable meaning of the words i choose, least of all vaguely understood colloquialisms, in order to preserve your peace of mind.
I recommend you take some time to evaluate the irony in your lecture about the meaning of slang terms while still not comprehending the difference between ‘there’, ‘their’ and ‘they’re’. Glass houses and all.
I also qualified “exclusively”, whereas you did not. Don’t project your absolutism on me. I literally said nothing about MGTOW. What’s the point of dragging your baggage to my doorstep?
Feel free to avoid my posts until your reading, comprehension and grammar improve meaningfully AND you learn that i don’t owe you your preference of answer unless i’m responding to YOUR question.

[CubsterShura]

Oh honey women ENTER their prime in their 30's. So many women feel confident and beautiful and successful at this age than their 20's.

Different people can feel like they are in their prime in different times, but I'd say for most guys mid-20's to mid-30's is that stage of life where I feel like I can confidently tell how he would be for the rest of his life.

[Vegasrunner]

@CubsterShura Lol, its not a feeling question, prime referrs to when you have the most value to the other gender female prime is about 18-24 some can push the clock back to their 30's but most men value youth and beauty so when they did a study men of all ages selected women around 18-24 as the most valuable.

[CubsterShura]

@Vegasrunner that is only if you think your value lies in what the opposite gender finds superficially appealing.

[Vegasrunner]

@CubsterShura People make this mistake all the time. That's what value is by definition. If it wasn't then we wouldn't have price tags on products. You may consider your value high however it's the market that determines your actual value. If your goal is to one day attract a partner, they will be the one to determine your value. (Please don't share that you will also determine your partners value)

[RedPassion95]

@Vegasrunner it isn't real you pig. It's made up by men like you to shit on women.

[Vegasrunner]

@RedPassion95 Lol, you believe value is made up why is that?

[RedPassion95]

@Vegasrunner because I see many young hot girls witn young hot guys. Not old farts

[Vegasrunner]

@Redpassion What does that have to do w/ women losing value as the age?

[CubsterShura]

@Vegasrunner I'm not a product for sale on the market

[Vegasrunner]

@CubsterShura W/ regards to the dating market you are. Assuming your looking for a make partner your value decreases every day just like any other product. Men value youth and beauty so your value is at your highest when you're 18-24. As you age your value decreases and the next crop of 20 somethings take your place.

[CubsterShura]

@Vegasrunner dating isn't a market. Not everyone likes the same thing. Find people who are your type, if they are harder to come across in the general population look into groups and niches where it is easier to connect with such people, and talk to them. That's it.

[DoctorSex]

@Vegasrunner
When she started calling you a pig, you won the argument sir. Know when to walk away lol

[fonduegirl]

Agreed fully

[Vegasrunner]

@CubsterShura Lol, You're literally describing a marketplace. Are you just looking to validate my point?

[Vegasrunner]

@DoctorSex Lol, believe it or not I'm not interested in "arguing" I'm simply looking to hear other POV"s and understand why people hold them. Name-calling dosent bother me at all and as you pointed out is more of a reflection of the individual than me. What I've learned from this site is why a lot of women behave like this and it has been a useful tool for me in my personal life.

[DoctorSex]

@Vegasrunner interesting.. what lessons have you taken away? I'm curious..

[Vegasrunner]

@DoctorSex Great question! In no particular order
1. When women don't like something they default to these three reactions.
A. Exceptions - Not all women men
B. Equality - Women Men do same thing
C. Emotion - Who hurt you
2. There's a ton of questions about older men dating younger women but few to none vice versa which tells me that younger men don't seek out older women.
3. Women's knee jerk reaction is to argue when a man shares anything they don't like. In the previous comment, while trying to argue that dating isn't like a market place the author literally uses an anology of a market place.
4. Women don't really understand relationships - This is what led me to this site to begin w/. Most women mistake guys wanting to bang them as relationships, so their info and opinons come from that POV.
5. If you are a top 20% man it's never been a better time - in my opinion the top 20% of men get 90% of women. Myself and my circle of friends fall in that top 20%. The 90% of women typically treat the other 80% of men like shit, and focus on the top 20% giving the power to the top 20% women have never figured out that the top 20% of men treat them they same way they treat the other 80% of men so they just keep repeating the same cycle.
There's more but this is what jumps out at me.

[DoctorSex]

@Vegasrunner very interesting! Thanks for sharing. I've recently come back from Africa. Sanity is out there brother. This isn't the norm for the female mindset. I'm planning to get married in the next 2 years over there with the intent to settle for good and fly to the west for business.
Relearning some key languages as we speak. I've detached myself mentally and spiritually from the west. There's so much you can explain, but when the other side doesn't want a conversation in good faith, you go where you're desired.

Kind regards,

[Vegasrunner]

@DoctorSex I have a different POV, but I can understand yours and I respect the fact that you're taking action. Women have always had these traits in my opinion, the only difference is that because of social media and platforms like these the traits have been highlighted exponentially. I also believe most men struggle with excepting that women hold these flaws, becasue people geninuley want to belive that they see the good in people. Your statement about women not wanting to converse in good faith is an interesting one, could you eloborate?

[VanillaSalt]

Your 21… you don’t even know yet.

[RedPassion95]

@Vegasrunner we are sick of western men's bull shit to control us. You're upset and mad when women finally grow a brain and speak up. You rather marry other women like Asians or Africans because they SUMBIT to men and act like maids/slaves.

[Vegasrunner]

@RedPassion95 Think you mixed up the comments I didn't say anything about marrying anyone that was @Doctorsex that was moving to Africa. I ❤️ Western woman and woman in general and seems like they love me so I'm not relocating anywhere. Besides I live where I've always wanted to live in West Las Vegas less than 10 minutes from the strip. Also the last thing I want to do is control anybody, it's a challenge everyday to just control myself. I appreciate your response but it doesn't seem to have any relevance to my statements.

[melanieeeB]

There is no such thing as losing your prime smh Only individual people who let themselves go smh!
I have a work colleague and she with 64 is still a fucking hot woman but I also know family members who look like homeless with 31 smh

[AmeerX]

She is beautiful but she is not going to be able to have children ((. Women need to be able to have children. Not all but most people choose younger woman to form families for this very reason even if they are not looking beautiful at all

[melanieeeB]

Not everyone wants kids and prioritizes that smh

[AmeerX]

You are right about that. But we are talking about a woman's prime. Even I know a few women in there 60s who are beautiful and I wouldn't mind dating but that's an exception

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Time beats everyone we all lose our prime

[AmeerX]

@PainusNdeeAnus true

[RedPassion95]

Why does every fucking man go on about kids as if you'd take care of them LMAO

[PainusNdeeAnus]

More men take care of kids than women a single mother is more likely to put her kids off on grandma or their dad

[melanieeeB]

@PainusNdeeAnus sorry but I guess you're living in a different reality lol

[RedPassion95]

@PainusNdeeAnus lmao 🤣 sure

[Anonymous]

It depends what perspective. Men value physical beauty much more than women do and most women value maturity and success more than men do. Thus as a man gets older he has more time to acquire those things that women find attractive, and if he looks after himself his prime can last a good long time way into his 60's. I'm not saying women don't care about physical beauty though. I'm talking about priorities. Of course, the man that has both will do better.

[Spiritofn]

Physical prime for me was 22. But prime is subjective if that’s the right word. Cause if average Joe hits the lottery tomorrow at 35 who’s gonna be superstar right…. But let’s say a 20 year old jock hits the lottery, he may not or anybody else may not ever even be able to answer that question cause his whole life might feel like his prime if done correctly.

[Kingofkings1992]

There’s no such thing as “prime years”. Stfu seriously. Why is everyone always trying to put people in boxes, and give someone a time frame on when they can be attractive, find a partner, get a good job etc. A person of any age group can be attractive, and no two people are on the same time. Stop comparing yourself to others, and just live your life.

[sunflower00]

100% agree

[RedPassion95]

Because men pull this shit on women 24/7.

[Kingofkings1992]

I know they do. It wasn’t directed at you personally, just that way of thinking

[Daniela1982]

When ever he doesn't pay his Amazon Prime account.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Daniela1982 You're a hoot! 😆

[Anonymous]

It’s same as women
Men take pride they are better still at 50..60.. etc but sadly this happens to rich oldies !
I bet you if both men and women do colonoscopy at 50 they will have colon polyps ~ sounds like a joke but I mean that’s a sign they are both in the sane boat by now

[Opinion Owner]

Same *

[Anonymous]

According to the biggest study ever done on the subject, women peak at 18 and men peak at 50.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.html

[victoriaxoxo]

Most men are no longer attractive after 30 but if a woman is financially dependant she will be ok with 40ish

[RedPassion95]

Hell.. they look like shit after 25.

[victoriaxoxo]

As soon as the hair start going, that's pretty much it. Of course men want to think they're hot until 80 but all women know the truth.

[ManHater]

yeah wait till you get old and see what you said back then lol Old ugly hag.

[RedPassion95]

@ManHater jump off a cliff

[sassy_receptor]

Literally. After 25 men definitely start declining, Nobody wants balding and “dad bod”😂

[Opinion Owner]

@sassy_receptor You say that, and yet the behavior of the vast majority of women says otherwise.

[RedPassion95]

Only if they have money lol 💰 🤑

[sassy_receptor]

The vast majority of women marry and date within 1-3 years of their own age. Get your head out of your ass.

[Opinion Owner]

Of course, that's one of the biggest reasons women find older men more desirable. That's why females online search for older guys.

You need to understand the difference between physical attractiveness and desirability. Women are valued for their physical beauty, men are valued for their utility. That's nature, and it's why women find older men so desirable, and men find younger women so desirable.

[Opinion Owner]

@sassy_receptor And yet the vast majority of women show more interest in men much older than they are.

[sassy_receptor]

Yeah older by a year or two. Multiple statistics say this and you’re choosing to be in denial lol.

[sassy_receptor]

They literally don’t and countless statistics show that. You’re a retard.

[Opinion Owner]

@sassy_receptor Studies show older men are the most desirable to women, and younger women are most desirable to men. That's just a fact. Sorry it that hurts your butt.

[Opinion Owner]

@sassy_receptor “The average woman’s desirability drops from the time she is 18 until she is 60,” the researchers wrote. “For men, desirability peaks around 50 and then declines.”

[sassy_receptor]

Everyone let’s laugh at this person who continues to be in denial though the average age gap for a couple in the WORLD is 2.7 years as of August 2022. Don’t be like this guy. Learn how to research and find credible sources.

[sassy_receptor]

LMAOOO THAT STUDY IS BASED ON ONLINE DATING

[sassy_receptor]

YOU REALLY LINKED A STUDY BASED ON ONLINE DATING? YOU TRULY ARE A RETARD.

[Opinion Owner]

@sassy_receptor The age gap reflects what women are able to get, not what they want. The study I linked shows what women actually want. I know that's a difficult concept for someone like you to wrap your head around.

[sassy_receptor]

And not only is the study you linked based on online dating but it’s only in one location which is New York. You’re fucking stupid. That’s not a worldwide real world study😂😂😂

[sassy_receptor]

Whew people pay attention in school kids. It’s vital.

[RedPassion95]

@sassy_receptor this fucking guy gets no p-ssy from any aged woman lol

[Opinion Owner]

@sassy_receptor Right, New York doesn't exist and no one online dates these days. LMAO

[sassy_receptor]

@RedPassion95 exactly. He’s holding onto this dream that when he gets older women will want him. Nobody wants him now and they won’t want him then.

[Opinion Owner]

I'm married, so...

[sassy_receptor]

ONLINE DATING APPS HAVE 2.3x MORE MEN THAN WOMEN AND LESS THAN 40% OF WOMEN HAVE USED ONLINE DATING IN THEIR LIFE. Touch fucking grass.

[sassy_receptor]

This is definitely the dumbest thread i’ve interacted with on this site.

[Opinion Owner]

@RedPassion95 Look, I get it. You're almost 30 and single and worried you're facing the wall, and that makes you bitter and scared. I feel for you. Best of luck with that.

[Opinion Owner]

Bye now.

[RedPassion95]

I still get hot young guys. I'm just trolling you fuckers here proving prime age is a BS concept men made up to make women feel like shit.

[RedPassion95]

@sassy_receptor I hardly see old men with hot young girls LMAO!!! More like the opposite

[sassy_receptor]

Nah they came up with it to give each other false hope of one day being desirable because they’re weirdos nobody wants

[RedPassion95]

@sassy_receptor true true

[DoctorSex]

Im 32 and have a continuous stream of 22-25 year olds trying to get my attention.

You're right sir. Some of the stuff I read on this website like ladies, I just don't recognise in my day to day life.

Kind regards,
DoctorSex

[victoriaxoxo]

You do understand that's because the average 30 year old woman preferred a 30 year old man, 40 year old woman preferred 40 year old man and 50 preferred 50. And then most men found 20-25 year old women most attractive regardless of their own age. Not because 18 year old women want 50 year old grandpa's you retard.

[victoriaxoxo]

thesocietypages.org/.../

Both genders desirability falls after 30 but for women that's earlier, peak being at 22 and for men at 24.. men are also more open to dating people of various ages, milfs etc. Although most men between 18-30 prefer someone who is 21. Still much more flexibility in terms of age. Women strictly prefer a guy who is -2 or +4 their age and hardly ever a bigger gap. There is a point where a females desirability goes down but men's to women's desirability stays close with maybe 10% difference.

Basically, yes it seems most men find women who are in their early 20s most attractive but women find men their age most attractive. Also even though men find younger women attractive they don't inbox these women anywhere as much as women their age partly because 1. Low chance of success 2. Likely personality incompatibility due to age gap. There is some research that points that women actually do find younger guys attractive but the male's undeveloped personality traits make the guy undateable in the woman's eyes.

Please stop pursuing younger women, it's creepy as fuck. Like I know there shouldn't be an age limit on love but if I see another grandaddy pursue me, I will literally throw up on him.

[victoriaxoxo]

@DoctorSex that's because you look 25

[victoriaxoxo]

Also it seems men basically have a very strong teen kink and an even stronger milf kink. www.google.com/.../amp

This is backed up by porn consumption with as many men consuming teen porn and milf porn. It seems like being a woman who is 25-35 is the worst because you're not longer a teen but not yet a milf rofl. And yh so a woman who is 50/55 is still likely to get replies at combined 40% on dating apps from men of any age and for a man this age that is only 20% chance for a woman of any age. Whilst women have a slight daddy kink (where chances of a 20-25 year old woman replying to a 55 year old man are at 14-19%), this is nothing compared to men's mummy kink where there's a 65% chance of a 25 year old guy replying to a 50/55 year old woman.

[victoriaxoxo]

To put it into context;

A 22 year old woman might get a 1000 tinder likes per day and a 22 year old man might get a 100. By age 25, she is getting 800 per day and he is getting 150. By age age 45 she is getting 200 and he is getting 50. Yes her drop off is sharper at 20% of what she used to get at 22. But his drop off whilst less sharp (30% of what what he used to get at his prime at 25), is still resulting in less overall desirability with only 50 likes and still 200 for the woman his age.

[Guffrus]

@victoriaxoxo You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

[victoriaxoxo]

@Guffrus which part?

[Opinion Owner]

@victoriaxoxo All of it. At your age, you don't get it yet. But you will.

www.smh.com.au/.../...ing-game-20120421-1xdn0.html

[victoriaxoxo]

It's true that men die off in their 50/60s and there are a lot more single 50/60 year old women left but that's not to say that a 20 year old would want a 50/60 year old? How does that make any sense?

[victoriaxoxo]

I am also much more equipped to say what a 20-something year old woman likes and believe me it's not 60 year olds..

There is actually a whole lot more evidence that points at 20 something year old guys liking milfs. This is backed up my mother's experience with her receiving a continuous flow of under 30 year old suitors after she turned 40. Lucky for her my father is already 10 years her junior, or maybe lucky for him!

[RedPassion95]

@victoriaxoxo the incel ugly men trying to argue with you lol

[DoctorSex]

@victoriaxoxo stop it. You'll make me blush

[DoctorSex]

@victoriaxoxo I have to agree with a lot of what you have to say, not just because of the compliment you gave me lol
However I believe women in their 20s would be far better suited to a man in his 30s.

From a maturity standpoint, a man has to get so many aspects of his life right from work- to interpersonal relationships. He has to be both strong, willing to kill if harm came to his family, yet soft like Romeo.
He has to have ambition and passion, be knowledge and have a healthy self image, yet also be a sacrificial lamb, willing to throw all that ambition out the window.. for you... His newly met Queen.
There's so much a man has to figure out cognitively that he just can't have figured out by 25. Even worse off if he was raised in a single mother household.

Kind regards,
DoctorSex

[victoriaxoxo]

@DoctorSex and to add to that most men don't look mature in body either until they are 25ish, a guy who is 21 can look quite prepubescent but most 21 year old women look the same as they will at 25.

[Subarugirl]

The moment he starts comparing women to inanimate object, refers to women as females and has role models like Andrew Tate l.

[Adaeva]

It depends on a lot of factors. If he is a pro baseball or NBA player, by age 30, he is past him prime. If he is a coach, by age 30, he is just entering his prime.

[TenderFantasy]

40's.

But some women (especiallly when young and want babies) they don't care how old the man is so long as he has sperm to provide her.

[Haha456]

Men are most in late 20s to early 30s. After 35, he starts to age slowly. By 40, he's officially hit the wall

[Looksnicholas]

Love this. Deserves top answer. I for one at 28, feel like I'm slowly slowly on the beginnings towards losing my prime. I know definitely by 29-30. If not by 29 which is only months away. Lol.

[Haha456]

@Looksnicholas

not all men age the same way. some 30 yr old guys look worse than 36 yr old guys.

[Looksnicholas]

Will that be me probably haha, the latter, but ah well, I'm enjoying my 20s and I don't mind if it's all 'old man vibes' from 29 or from 30s. Ah well. I'll just enjoy slowing down at 30+ onwards and upwards hurrah

[Haha456]

@Looksnicholas

29-30 is barely old man vibes. people won't see you as "old " until you hit your 40s

[Looksnicholas]

Lol oh but I feel it in my bones and aches already. I'm quite a weak light frame lol always have been, if I was dating, I'm not actively dating, I'd always prefer petite slim women around 5feet tall or less, but light like me. Small frame or light frame. A person can dream hahaha. But nah, I'm just feeling it from just, I guess the years of being very active and throwing myself around on gym equipment or playgrounds from my upbringing, the joint pain is slowly slowly catching up. Really. At 28 and a half, when i squat, I do feel after even a minute, already exhausted and to get back up, feels sore and an effort, haha. Not painful, but sore. lol. At my age. Lol. It's unheard of, lol? ^⁠_⁠^ But I'm fine with it. I love always saying I'm an old man in a young man's body I am at 28, but a weak 28 hahahah.

[Looksnicholas]

I'll be celebrating the old man vibes next year and onwards, celebrate 🥂🎉

[Haha456]

@Looksnicholas

maybe you dont sleep enough? too much stress? do you have illnesses>?

[Looksnicholas]

I've had hives this year for the first time ever, lol. Im taking medication, could last over a year my doc reckoned plus the specialist.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

At 40 and above its no longer prime years.

Health starts to erode, erection dysfunction affects 1/3 of men and energy and testosterone levels begin to drop more rapidly.

[fonduegirl]

When they get beer bellies, have white beard and get buzzcut... That means he's accepted his old guy role, and not the one that's called daddy

[Looksnicholas]

Please can I say, I wish there had been a poll, politely, included.

I will say, as I am 28, I will say 29 or 30.

[4ngelic]

scientifically a guy is in his prime up to about 37-38 but really starts to go downhill when he hits his fifties

[invalid1]

According to what I know, we continue to be these annoying fuckers for the rest of our lives LOL Kidding aside, I don't know and I don't have an idea.

[Stevefiveo]

I'm 51 and still doing it every night. Not like my 30's when I could cum three times and hump all day and night. But still going strong. Although having four children also gets in the way of that too. Lol

[victoriaxoxo]

Ewww

[Swollerbear]

Maybe 40s. The older I get, the more women make themselves available to me.

[LegendaryDater]

60 is top. Men at this age can still score women in their 20's and 30's.

[RedPassion95]

Not really. I see young ones with partners their age. Only rich guys get the young onez.

[LegendaryDater]

Nobody said young ones don't get partners their age. Why even bring that up? 60 is prime like I said.

[BlueScorpio]

It is not common to see 20 year Olds with men old enough to be their dad. I look at couples all the time and most young girls are with men close to their age range...

[RedPassion95]

@BlueScorpio shhh.. let him be in his fantasy world

[BlueScorpio]

Seriously, I don't know where this delusion came from. They really think 19 to 20 year Olds are surrounding grandpa's at the nursing home for a date. It's crazy. It's the ego and living through celebrity men too much.

[AmeerX]

@BlueScorpio actually the guy is partly right. Girls go after men twice there age if he has at least some money to flaunt around. You two are thinking from a working women's perspective but he is talking from a non working girls perspective

[Apple1996]

@AmeerX most women in general are not going after grandpa's. The average age gap between a couple is 2-3 years. I don't work since I'm a stay at home mom and my husband is slightly younger then me. Literally disproving what you said. Same with all the other sahm that I know are older then their partners

[Apple1996]

@BlueScorpio I never understood this either like look outside. Most couples are roughly the same age

[AmeerX]

@Apple1996 I don't mind it but take a guess. I am not American or coming from purely US background. In my country If I marry a girl older than me my parents will disown us probably. That's what actually has happened a lot. People choose to remain unmarried then to marry an older girl. I myself have no problem but in fact do like someone who is 2-3 years older than my own age.

Most couples are now near each other's age but you have to be kidding me if you just give your own example. 2-3 girls I asked out said they want an older stable men in university days 🙄.
I guess I am talking about a different world altogether

[Apple1996]

@AmeerX it does depend where you from and everything but still 60 like this guy is saying is ridiculously old. Most women that kids are not gonna go after a guy that's gonna die before the kids are adults

[_piotr]

Relationship-wise men do not have any inherent value like women do.

[RedPassion95]

LOL they do

[_Troian_]

Unlike women, men gets more valuable as we age up.

[victoriaxoxo]

According to men XD

[RedPassion95]

Oh. You. Barf

[HippieVeganJewslim]

28. 28 is a perfect number. It’s the sum of its proper factors. 28=14+7+4+2+1

[es20490446e]

It all depends on your lifestyle, specially of what you eat.

[Googlemyahoo]

Depends on their wealth. If an 80 year old billionaire wanted it you’d be all over him

[Jerre]

I’m in my very early 50’s and I am sure I can keep up with younger guy out there.

[RedPassion95]

You have money lol... otherwise... nope

[mT2359]

Just before when a man truly realises that he is mortal.

[Anonymous]

30 to 35. For women its 17 to 22. I say 22 because after 22 you can tell she's getting older. You dont start seeing age on men until after 35.

[RedPassion95]

I look the same as 18. Such bull shit lol

[Opinion Owner]

There are slight differences. The skin in particular looks older. Like a leather couch thats been sat on hundreds of times. Its subtle and its possible only men can see the differences. Like how I can't see the differences between a 20 year old and 30 year old Asian girl, but Asian men can.

[RedPassion95]

What the fuck are you smoking.

[DizzyDesii]

When he starts balding, I lose interest

[sassy_receptor]

In my opinion, late 20s

[abc3643]

When he becomes a vegetarian, so prime rib is out.

[exitseven]

It all started to go downhill at 40.

[UniquelyBasic]

Maybe after 45 or so. Closer to 50 and up.

[victoriaxoxo]

Sorry but it's more like 30 but depends on the guy. I think once the hair starts to go then that's the curtain fall.

[UniquelyBasic]

@victoriaxoxo Based

[2b4sakn]

@victoriaxoxo so men who take antibaldness drugs and keep their hair indefinitely? When prime end?

[victoriaxoxo]

@2b4sakn look, most women want a guy who is close to their age so will largely depend. Most studies and my personal opinion point at that men's prime is at around 24/25 thesocietypages.org/.../

Of course we both probably know men and women who look 22/23 at 35. It depends how you look after yourself. Granted I am yet to see a woman or man who looks in their prime past 40.

[2b4sakn]

@victoriaxoxo are you srs lol? For women, it does seem harder but nicole kidman comes to mind. Brad pitt in Troy was 40. People need to realize that a lot aging is not just genetic but also environmental. Poor working class people who work full time jobs + OT will age faster than wealthy people or those with less stressfull jobs.

[Jamie05rhs]

Whenever he starts letting himself go, I guess?

[fonduegirl]

I said the same!

[Jamie05rhs]

@anon1903 😃👍 🤓

[Anonymous]

Probably 50 I would say.

[Anonymous]

That is up to the man.

[Iron_Man]

70s but as far as sports probably 50s

[FlyingDutchman670]

70's? LOL you're hilarious
No self-knowledge really

[Iron_Man]

@FlyingDutchman670 I’ve got a heater on my ass. Well that’s really nice.

[FlyingDutchman670]

a heater on your ass? what's this gay shit?

[FlyingDutchman670]

GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[FlyingDutchman670]

GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[BJP21]

You only lose it when you stop trying.

[clampfan101]

I imagine the same for both.

[Anonymous]

When he starts balding so mid twenties.

[RedPassion95]

Hehehe

[AmeerX]

Baldness is a familial Y chromosome trait. From father to son. Never from mother to son

[AmeerX]

@Deed112ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ0 now you are funny 😂

[2b4sakn]

Well there are drugs that men take that can prevent this. Its why so many male celebrities are keeping their nanes into their late 50s. Look at Brad Pitt and then look at his brother/father.

[2b4sakn]

@AmeerX uh no. There is more than one gene that contributesand some of them are on the X chromosome. Mother's father has always been closest relative to compare what balding awaits you

[bean2k21]

Classic case of penis envy.

[Opinion Owner]

@bean2k21 It's true, men doesn't age like fine wine neither does women.

[Opinion Owner]

@AmeerX It's still unattractive with a balding man. Once he loses his hair his prime is over.

[AmeerX]

No, I see a lot of men lose the hairs but they are still liked. And most guys get hair transplant nowadays.

[Opinion Owner]

@AmeerX Well, hair transplant isn't natural so therefore unattractive to me. I want a naturally sexy man.
Oh really? Name one. Personally as a woman balding men are unattractive.

[RedPassion95]

@AmeerX dude stfu

[2b4sakn]

Lol you wouldn't even be able to tell. Look at Elon Musk. If it wasn't for that paypal picture no one would even know.

[Opinion Owner]

@2b4sakn Tell yourself whatever you want if it makes you feel better, but balding men are unattractive.

[2b4sakn]

Dont care have hair. Hope you dont have a bald son. Karma is a bitch.

[2b4sakn]

@Deed112wymㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ

[Opinion Owner]

@2b4sakn Well, I don't care if my son is bald or not because in my eyes my son will be beautiful no matter what. In a mother's eyes their children will always be beautiful. And just because balding is unattractive doesn't mean I wouldn't marry someone because he's balding. I mean eventually all men will bald, that's just how it is. It's not as attractive as a man with hair, but it's not like "OH MY GOSH HE IS SO UGLY". It's a part of the male nature.

[2b4sakn]

Not all men bald but it sounds like youve already realized you will have to be realistic and settle since most do. Good for you and I hope your future son dodges the balding genes.

[OddBeMe]

85. Going by the Picasso scale.

[bamesjond0069]

When he gives up.

[cloud9vortex1234]

When he lets himself go.

[captain_voidwalker]

About 65 to 70 or whoever we retire.

[Anonymous]

as soon as a man blames feminism or women.

[dustybiker]

👎🏻….

[Apple1996]

In their 30s

[TCredo]

i disagree lol :)

[Apple1996]

@TCredo haha some men lose their peaks later then others

[TCredo]

@Apple1996 lol thank you and I 100% agree. I like to think I'm still peaking in my mid-50's. It's funny as I know many friends from when I was growing up and some have seemed well past their prime for years... the pace at which someone ages (physically or mentally) does vary greatly :)

[ChillaxingLove]

It varies

[Mangospacho]

Late 20s

[CT_CD]

27..

[Anonymous]

42..

[Anonymous]

Till he is rich...