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I’ve seen quite a few YouTube videos where women have been challenged to try being a man on Tinder to get numbers and dates. They always begin thinking that it will be a piece of cake because being women’s hey think they have a good idea of how to get and keep them interested, but then to their surprise they barely get any responses, and even when they do the conversation is boring and it fizzles out.21
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Absolutely true, women only get away with the shit they do because they are women.20
I would. I’d know to be in the gym daily. LIVE in the gym. I’d know to workout my forearms, biceps, and back to look as threatening as possible. I’d do anything in my power to make my voice as deep and as masculine as possible. I’d do anything in my power to have a chiseled jaw line. A square jaw line with masculine chin.
I’d do anything in my power to have hair were it needs to be. I’d do anything in my power to keep my eyebrows as thick and as threatening as possible.
You know how I know this. Because I had the most unbelievable crush on a guy with these traits. I BET most women knowing what they’re attracted to themselves. They’d know the game from the JUMP!
And you’re crying and whining.. goes out the window when you realize there are Lesbians. Your entire argument goes out the window. Literal females are getting P—SY as females. So yeah. There’s something wrong with you !! 🖕 All of those like you !!
It’s why we’re all competing for the top % of men. Because we’re not about to go fro you sorry f-kers.
It’s your job to take care of yourself and compete with the top % of males.
You’re like the insane feminists, but the male side. Insane MALE-ists is what you are. The manosphere redpill bs is like the insane feminists of the male side. YOU MAKE US CRINGE SO HARD 😬😬
You wanna sit on a sofa, chug Cheetos, watch XXX busting nuts on yourself.
And then your expect women to throw themselves at you?
Too bad SOO sad 🖕28
I’m actually surprised that more than half the female respondents voted True on this.
When it all comes to down to it most men aren’t looking for an excuse and an easy way out when we bring this up. It’s just when many of us out in the hard work, risks, etc to be above average we get at best mediocre résults for the opposite gender. The bar is just so god damn higher (and somethings are way out of our control).
I know for a fact that my own mother would of never gotten married and had kids if she was born a man with the same personality (she’s legitimately neurotic). She’s my mother and I love her. She brought me into this world.
However with that said she always gave me dating advice thinking that my dating life is the same ways as her’s was. It’s not even close. Not even remotely. She was born a beautiful woman. I have been told by lots of people I’m handsome but I know damn well and for a long time that is not enough for women.0
Being the man from my perspective would be much easier.
I’m a naturally extroverted outspoken person. I’d pick a girl who blows me away and I would chase her (and pull back when needed to keep the spark going), it’s really not that difficult. People that make it out to be difficult have no confidence and that’s something that can be worked on.
As a man looks aren’t as important as playing your cards right. Both men I’ve fallen in love with we’re not the most attractive men and I’m actually an attractive woman. They said the right things to me at the right time.
All a guy needs to be is healthy with good hygiene and an awesome personality. A career helps too. Have all these traits and girls will fall for you.8
They wouldn’t because women are scared to approach men or guys with this preconceived notion that all men are the same. It’s a shame women and girls today don’t care about marriage and think having kids are a waste of time. It’s pretty messed up that females value friendships with girls that can be a bad influence instead of a child who loves her mother being you (to the females out there). It’s like all women care about is bashing men, creating drama, starting an OnlyFans account and worrying about some dead end stressful ass job…yeahhh good luck with but when we all die, all your hard work at your job, your money, your status won’t mean anything, we go back to God. I know women are going to read this by giving me this to illustrate disliking my comment.0
I think women can handle it. But seeing how my dad suffers and try so hard for mom, I feel sorry. It may seem easy but it's so hard, he must get the woman what she wants (the tiny mistakes are concerned ungrateful) I'm not saying that all woman are like this. But men are the ones responsible and my opinion is that it's hard dealing with everything on their own (the woman helps but he helps more with everything she asks for)12
Anytime I tell one of my lady friends to make a simple move on a guy, she gives a million reasons why she’s scared, how it could go wrong, blames guys for not being open to such advances, etc. They bring up issues middle school boys fret about. . . and that’s just over simple stuff like hitting him up first or planning a date. Every girl is different, but the ones I’ve talked to are very comfortable being passive actors10
Probably true. From what I've seen, lots of women are horrible at trying to approach random guys. They just hover hoping he'll start the conversation. If they were in a man's body and brought that energy, they'd just creep out the woman they're trying to approach. They'd just fail right off lift off.0
I don't think I would have a problem. My brothers are good looking and they get girls chasing after them. If I change genders, I suspect I would be as handsome as my brothers and I probably won't have an issue with dating.2
most women aren't 6 feet tall, nor do they have 6 pack abs or earn 6 figures annually at their job but given there's no shortage of rudeness or promiscuity to go around, they would make better fuckboys than actual fuckboys.10
i would suck, women intimidate me. but for others it’s way easier for a guy 2 get in a relationship so they could make it1
I bet I would do better lol I ain't scared of talking to men, so I would be a natural talking to women and also I know what women want more... so yeah3
No women suck at approaching guys, and if they where men in their current mindset they wouldn't attract women. So they would be even worse off.10
Considering we are the ones expected to approach and we are the ones they get rejected the most, I guarantee most women would not be able to handle it.10
I don't know. Most attractive women won't give you the time of day bc they're constantly being hit on. But women have different standards for beauty. So :/ they might be better pulling chicks most men would overlook.4
Probably. I've only been told by a few women on the internet that they asked a guy out. Never head it from a guy that he was asked out, either.10
Well just sitting there and being average or slightly above is not likely to garner a lot of pursuers if you're a guy, so yes.0
Most women would commit suicide if they went a year in the life as a man and experienced how we get treated0
True, women get approached, men are dying to be with beautiful women. Women are never dying to be with a guy even if he’s beautiful. Not all but most think they’re too good for you20
I agree. Even a lot of hot girls, or girls who think they're hot, would struggle as a man.0
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Guys know the truth. To a woman, a man merely has to just walk up and initiate the contact and if he is worth anything, he will get the opportunity.
The reality is that many guys are simply invisible to women, and assume the guys that are actually qualified to ask her, is the only kind of guys she acknowledges.
And for that, many women date the same guys, and the rest of the guys simply do not exist, which by volume, are the lionshare of average, and less than average guys who just have not hit success, meet the height, and gym-looling standards, by women who have no success, are average, and many who are overweight.
Women assume men have it easier, where when most guys are subpar in the woman's blind eye, are startig from a bad place just trying to date.
Women on the other hand deal with a lot of risks and uncertainty. Women hate not feeling safe at all times, fear the unknown, and ring fence their dating to sure bets, that look like the best, when in reality they are barely the best, and average, to less than, like the rest of the population.
Can't disagree there man
There is a specific reason women are aware men have it easier in the dating world and I think that reason should be obvious to you oblivious men who have everything handed to you in the world; your ability to get sex by any means. Sure you have to work for it: Lie to women to get it. Manipulate. Pay for her dinner. Pretend to like her. Pretend to care. Rape. Etc.
And trust me, there is a huge issue with that fact. Also, socially, manipulating women into bed isn’t seen as abuse, rape, coercion, etc. Any person with common sense will see the gender who is more disadvantaged here. Yeah we may have the consensual right to have sex with whoever we want (minus double standards) but again, there is issue still there, issues men take advantage of then women are blamed for
You men are delusional believing women have it so easy. Please. Sure we can choose who we date and have sex with but it depends on the partner. Was that partner truthful in their approach? Now that’s what’s important
@hIopinionated_ Actually you made my point You're largest liability is safety. You have wonder if you're going to get graped, which how often does that really happen?
I have been on hundreds of dates in my youth, 20's and then late 40's after my divorce, and to date, I don't grape the woman.
Do you know what happens to a guy who gets accused of grape? He gets arrested and charged with little to no question, so to not blame the victim. He then has to proven his innocence, because he can be charged on hearsay.
There are guys who are going to. prison because of such allegations, and some were actually grapist. But there is also a good number who just offended the woman. Maybe she felt like she was treated badly, found out she hated his political leanings, or any other offense, and she laughs as he gets hauled away. In that regard, men have more to fear from even engaging with a woman he does not know, and have mutual friends to get her, before putting himself into a nasty legal situation.
And. it often goes like, they both had a couple of drinks. Clothes cake. off and the girl has regrets in the morning, and believes, as you so eloquently wrote, that she was manipulated, and when she shames the guy later on, he ignores her, essentially ghosts her, she calls the cops, and boom! It serves him right!
@hIopinionated_ A woman just need to beeautify herself, and show up to a date. Again, if guys are forcing themselves on their partner, there should be consequences. Unforutately unless she comes clean, or if his defense attorney is talented,. will the guy stand any chance. After that his life is ruined and he is not going to rotate back from prison to pick up where he left off. He will move to edge of town and stay to himself or will break simple laws just to get back in so he doesn't have to worry about making ends meet.
How many women after getting attacked stop their life? I know many are rightlifully traumatized if they were attacked. But even they can bounce back and lead a promising life.
So again, who has it easier?
The issue is more than just the possibility of rpe. Did you read my comment? There are other issues here: manipulation, pretending to care/like her to get sx, etc. And the chances of rpe is definitely high. Just because you don’t rpe women doesn’t mean other men do not. Have you ever manipulated a woman into bed though? Pretended to like her just to use her body? Be honest
I know exactly what happens to men when they are accused of rpe. The victim gets asked what she was wearing and she also has to undergo invasive and humiliating procedure that’s basically telling her what she experienced needs to be proven because people believe you are lying. There have been many rpe cases in this country and it’s always the same routine: the victim gets humiliated in court and the rpist spends a few months in jail or weeks on good behavior, the victim has to live with that fact, many off themselves, etc.
Of course no innocent man should go to prison. The accuser should actually go to prison for lying. But again, as I stated before; manipulation, coercion, etc should be counted as rpe as well but it isn’t.
Men have that to fear, women have so much more to fear from men including manipulation and being used. Of course women who accuse men of wrong doing and lie are wrong. I would never defend them
I personally believe if both parties were drunk, it isn’t rpe but if that woman was drunk and he wasn’t, that is in fact rpe. No sane person should be having sex with someone who isn’t able to give consent. It’s wrong and for both men and women
Wrong. Many rpe victim unalive themselves. I do empathize with the innocent men who did nothing wrong but again, the whole dating scene is easier for men. I already stated one major reason why and there are plenty more
@hIopinionated_ Anything to be a victim right? And before i go any further so you dont twist this things into im defending rapist bullshit let me be clear. Rapist are sick fucks and should be given the highest form of punishment there is. Now here's the thing problem with the manipulation thing. Older woman make decisions and choices but once they're dating and talking to men now it's manipulation. No accountability whatsoever for your actions. And a lot of women sleep and date shitty fully aware of what they're getting themselves into before hand but still do but oh they're victims who aren't thinking right and are being manipulated. We have to distinguish crime from privileges because both are not the same category
@Chthou95 You have it backwards. Women ARE victims to society. It isn’t a good thing but it’s a fact.
Also, what does decisions, dating, and talking to men have to do with manipulative men? A manipulative person is just a manipulative person. They lie and use people. A woman making decisions, dating or talking to a man who’s manipulating her isn’t her fault because she’s the victim. HE’S lying to her to get what he wants. You are making excuses for psychos and blaming the victim for making wrong decisions when the victim doesn’t even know she’s being used and or lied to. That man should take accountability and stop lying to people. How can a victim take accountability for something they didn’t even do? Or knew about? That doesn’t make any sense.
Now if a woman knew a guy was shitty and he’s telling her exactly what he wants and she stupidly believe she can change him or whatever, that’s her fault. My comment have absolutely nothing to do with pushover dumb women like that. I already stated it have to do with situations where men are manipulating, rping, and or lying to women to get what they want from them. You brought up situations that had nothing to with my comment at all
I talked about the manipulation and coercion of some guys But the gray area there is, did the date get hot and touchy feely, and stuff happen? This is not uncommon, and both people get engaged in the moment. Both wake up the next day with regrets. Did the guy trick the girl? Maybe, maybe not? Maybe they both should not have drank to keep it clean.
And that is the way dating should go, where the guy courts the woman for a long-time to show interest. Some women want to nab the guy as soon as possible, and if the guy has second thoughts, he will sometimes ghost her. It's not ethical, but some guys get scared of the woman. In her mind, he gamed her into bed just for fun.
It's pretty well known that people who have sex early in courting,. or even the first date will not be long-term successful. Is that his fault, or her fault? Did he game her to get access, or did he wake up one day and realize he is not that much into her?
I had a few girls ready to jump in the sack on the first date. Everyone of them wanted to date more, and to be honest, I was no longer attracted to them. I told them this, and they kept texting me. I ignored them, and one I had to block.
I also dated a girl that would disappear for work on the weekends. She had conferences they went to professional sessions where she led the event. She was free in the late evenings, and she would not call to check in. I would hear back from other on Monday evenings, and that happen about three times before I broke up with her. She kept trying to text and I ignored her. She accused me of not being honest and ghosting her. When in reality I set boundaries. I don't like it when my girlfriend forgets to call me over the weekend. So I let her go, and she felt like I was not be honest with her. I was like I gave you two more chances juat to call after she was done and fed, to check in, and she told common friends how bad I was and how I treated her.
I never gamed a women into bed. Most would elect soe where between date three and seven. I was looking for a girl who wouldn't cheat on me. I married one, and seven years later she cheated on me. I divorced her. And she initially told everyone how bad I was. Now she says good things, but that's because we are co-parenting kids together. We found a common friendship that worked. And what I am getting at here, in these situations, these girls and my ex only told their friends how bad I was. After the anger and resentment ended, I went back to being an okay guy.
Hence why I am touchy about what women tell their friends when it doesn't work out. Fortunately none accused me of forcing them to do something. But I do know guys that did get accused and did time. My net door neighbor's son is doing 9 years, because his wife got mad at him, so she took her coffee mug and bashed her face with it. Got some bruises, and she called the cops on him. He lost everything, because she also divorced him and got to take over their home.
And I with empathize with you. Most women have at least one horror story where she got attacked, or feared of not only being attacked and killed by her man, or guy she was seeing. No one has it easy.
Here is the difference. Most women may feel humiliated if they do get attacked. And that is horrible But no one will believe the man, regardless how innocent he is, or looks like. He is guilty until proven otherwise, even in the US of A.
Look, honestly the women you dealt with are just horrible women, selfish, in their own ways, and liars. That is not the case of any of my comments. I said clearly, women who are liars, bad, whatever deserve exactly what they get. Manipulation, rpe, liars, horrible people are all black and white situations, no gray area. All those women who painted you out to be the bad guy when isn’t it but ONLY if you were 100% upfront in your intent from the beginning not after. That determines who’s wrong or right. The other woman, you even gave her chances and she messed up. Why would I co sign women who are in the wrong? Just because I am a feminist doesn’t mean i support all women. If you’re wrong you’re wrong no matter your gender
Again, that is horrible. I do not condone or I sympathize with horrible women. Your next door neighbor’s wife is obviously a horrible person. But it’s a fact that 1 in every 3 women have been sexually harassed in a public place, 90% of rpe victims are women, every 68 seconds an American is sexually assaulted, rpe culture is real, men commit more crimes against women than the other way around, most women are sexually abused by family members of friends, etc. That’s the part that pisses me off not some disgusting woman who makes it hard for real victims
It’s much more than feeling humiliated. It’s knowing you’re at the mercy of man once again. Men believe men and men hold the power in society. Men believe men who they know aren’t innocent. Women would just be scared and advocate for his jail time but she cannot harm him as men can harm her. We’re the vulnerable ones here
@hIopinionated_ How are you and women victims? Women get raped and sexually assaulted. But men get robbed and murdered more than women and when it comes to police brutality, men are much likely to be assaulted by police than women are. And here's the thing i respect law enforcement and it needs to be a part of society but when police brutality does happen, men are more prone to this. Can an argument be made that both genders are oppressed in different ways? And you talk men in position of power but what you're doing is taking a small percentage of hyper successful men and then make the assumption that a lot of men are in this position. And while the people in these positions are men, the ones suffering the most at the bottom are men. Look at homeless peoplem majority of them make up men. So if men are the top, they're also the ones are bottom as well. There's not nearly as many female homeless out there. And manipulation is not gender based. Both genders can manipulate, society just pays attention more when its men manipulating women
Omg dude. Women are victims of society because systemic sexism have existed for centuries thanks to the making of sexist men. Those traditions are still practiced and conditioning society as we speak
Yes, men get robbed and murdered but by other men not women statistically and definitely not because they are men. The reason women experiences in this world is much harsher is because most things done to women is because we are women and are the physically weaker sex. Anything can be done to us. When men experience rpe, assault, murder, police brutality, etc it’s mostly at the hands of other men. Men are the problem here even for normal men who aren’t the problem at all.
And when it comes to being assaulted by the police, it depends on the race of the woman. Those types of things matters here. Sure, women are seen as delicate flowers who need to submit their man and men in general but not all women are viewed delicately. Delicate women who behave the way men want women to behave are treated delicately by men.
Police brutality is horrible all. I do not condone that nor will I ever
Yes, men and women are oppressed in different ways. But it isn’t women who are oppressing men. But it is men who are oppressing women on a high scale. What I said were not assumptions and it isn’t a small percentage.
Yes, again, homeless programs make up a majority of men but for reasons that you won’t write down. There’s the reason women begin advocating and fighting for this sort of thing. Homeless women getting trafficked, rped, murder, etc. During those times of building up homeless and family shelters, women had nothing. Men had control of everything and women had to help women just as women have to help women today because society doesn’t care about women or the homeless.
Men are the top regarding bodily autonomy, male privilege, the patriarchy, double standards, etc. But in reality men are victims to their own making as well. All that stuff men benefit from: double standards, male privilege, etc. in the end it’s harmful but it still benefits men when it comes to women. You all hold the power.
I never said only man can be manipulative. My comment was based on how manipulation from men affects women in relationships, sexually, anything to do with our bodies
@hIopinionated_ What advantages do men who are not in the top 20% have over women? What rights does the average Joe schmoe have over you? You do know that there are women in positions of power that voted to ban abortion right? And no duh there would be more men in homeless programs because there's more men that are homeless. I can name a ton of ways women have advantages over men if youd like. There's no such thing as male privilege. You've been lied to by feminism
Don’t you ever think? The advantages all men even the bottom have, the working poor, the average guy has the power to abuse, manipulate, and murder women. There are plenty of women in abusive relationships. Who’s benefiting? The man. There are plenty of women not getting an O during sx (most women actually). Who’s benefiting? The man. There are plenty of men who are taught they are able to have sex and it not tarnished their reputation. Which gender that benefits? Men. There are plenty of men who are impregnating women and women being forced to carry it or men lying that he will be there yet leave. Who is benefiting? Not the woman at all. There are too many examples I can note here, you just refuse to see reality for what it
And sure there are pushover women who are anti women’s rights. So what? Those psychos always existed. They literally advocate for women being housewives and not holding any power in society over men. Pretty damn sure those women are weak and hate their own gender. I don’t like those women so I have no idea why you mention those types as if I support them.
Yeah lol please tell me how women have advantages over men lol. Dying to hear it because there is no such thing as female privilege only male privilege. I bet almost every female privilege you name, I can point out how it really isn’t a privilege.
1. Women win most custody battles
2. Women serve shorter prison sentences for the same crimes
3. Women dont need to sign draft papers once they turn 18
4. A woman can hit and abuse a man in public and most people won't do anything about it
5. Women can say sexist stuff about men publicly and dont face any consequences
6. Women can falsely accused men of a crime and face no consequences for doing so
7. Women are defended and protected even when they're in the wrong
8. Women can sexually harass a man and face no consequences
9. In some areas men have no say in abortion yet if you kept it men are forced to be fathers or pay for child support
10. Men make up work related death/fatalities
11. Women get accepted into universities more than men do
12. Women will get a lot of opportunities men won't just for being a woman
These are some of them at the top of my head
@hIopinionated_ How would the bottom and the average men have any power if they're invisible to most women? The hyper successful men are the only men women notice and when those men disappoint or dont meet your expectations you generalize all men and you think that all men have that power. Most men today are unsuccessful and failures to society. If you're not doing your part as a man society views you as a loser. Hell male suicide rate is 5x times greater than womens. If there's an patriachy then a lot of men shouldn't be killing themselves and should be living the top 20% lifestyle. They should be living that quote "patriachy" life
1. women are mostly always the care givers and fathers don’t show up to want custody. There’s mostly no win as the cases mostly never make it to family court
2. That one depends on the race of the women
3. Ok that one is actually quite a privilege but no one should go to war anyways. Plus, the treatment women receive in the military (rape, abuse, etc), they aren’t safe from that as common sense men have testosterone (gives you natural aggression and strength), higher muscle mass. Hello? Why should women deal with any men who wants to murder her? She can’t win. At least other men have a chance to win. Women have no chance. Plus, male government officials came up with that rule.
4. No one should hit anyone but seriously? A woman can’t break a man’s jaw with one hit as a man can a woman. And most people don’t believe women should be able to hit men. It’s men who comes to women’s aid. Also, there are men who murdered and hit women in public and nothing was done about it. It would depend on the people that’s around
5. What sexist stuff?
6. To combat that, men can rape women and lie about it then face no consequences. Also the woman will be shamed in public and in the justice system
7. Again, testosterone, muscle mass, body mass? Why should people stand by and watch a man beat a woman senseless? Even if she’s wrong, there would be no fair fight. Any decent person should stop a fight especially if someone is losing
8. And men can sexually harass women and face no consequences. Again, let’s not pretend a woman can force a man to do what she wants unless he’s drunk or she has a gun to his head
9. I do not believe men should pay child support if he doesn’t want the child. I do believe he should sign over his parental rights. And A man should should never have a say in abortion
10. Not understanding the issue? Isn’t working there their choice?
11. Pretty sure that’s for an academic reason. Her hard work vs his. She obviously won
12. Like what? And that situation definitely happens in vice versa
No one is entitled to the other. Women don’t owe men attention and men don’t owe women attention. This is about sex and the fact that women can say “no” and doesn’t have to fight for a men.
Also. New studies done regarding women’s suicide, you should check it out
And men don’t notice how privileged they are because they can’t control women anymore. Women saying no feels like oppression for some reason even though women are the ones facing abuse, rape, anti bodily autonomy rights at a higher stat than men. I simply have no idea why men actually WANT to be oppressed
@hIopinionated_ a lot of those things aren't counter arguments. They're just you needing to be right and say that men hold all the power and oppress you. Even if someone shows you right dead smack everything that disproves your views, you'll still deny it. And you comment centuries later
@Chthou95 Those are counter arguments. Most of those things you mentioned where created by men because women were viewed as fragile, needing to be in a home, cleaning and having babies and now that women push against those thing, there are men like you pretending the world isn’t the way it is because of men. Blame men including yourself for co signing the patriarchy in 2023
@hIopinionated_ There is no patriachy. You've just been brainwashed by feminism. And its amazing how this topic went from women being unsuccessful as men to patriarchy
The fact that you’re delusional about the patriarchy is proof that having any intellectual conversation with someone like you it’s no point.
@hIopinionated_ Yup that's it