Who is more afraid of commitment in modern dating? Men or Women?

[coachTanthony]

Men are more afraid

Women are more afraid

See poll ( Coach I am not afraid let's roll )

[misogynistic_pig]

It is believed that most modern women are afraid of dating commitment.

Many women today prefer to maintain their independence and freedom instead of seeking a serious and committed relationship.

On the other hand, men are less and less interested in marriage and serious relationships due to the risks and possible financial loss in the event of a divorce.

Men feel increasingly alienated and disconnected from women due to the widening gender gap in society.

In short, most modern women are afraid of dating commitment and prefer to maintain their independence.

In addition, men are also becoming less interested in marriage and serious relationships due to the risks and possible financial loss in the event of a divorce.

[coachTanthony]

In short get off of Chat GPT... my god

[NostalgiaSenpi]

I'm not afraid of commitment. But I was apprehensive about two different women. One reminded me way too much of my mom and I thought ahead to the possibility of having children and didn't want another generation to go through what I went through, at least with her. Do I feel bad about that one, no.

The second one, I've always been cautious of people I meet online, sure I could've taken up the offer as in hindsight, it seems as though she was genuine, but I've been of the mindset that you don't know truly whom is on the other end and can't develop a relationship without meeting in person. The walls can come down and the person isn't at all what they said they were.

[TenderFantasy]

I don't think it's a gender issue but more on life experience issue. Some people, if they've been burned before, they're less likely to try again but like I said, it really depends on the person! Once bitten and twice shy are some people's motto, others it's never, never give up!

But I think if you're talking general, probably men. At least from what I have observed. They tend to be the perfectionist and tend to be the picker of the two genders! Just my take.

[FreyaRed]

No one will promise anything because we will live eternally. This is our media conditioning. If you don't believe me, tell me a title of a movie or TV series with functional and happy family where both people cooperate for mutual well being, grow old and die without regret.

[Guy13]

I do not know where these commitment phobes come from except off social media. IRL, I never get that so I can only assume that commitment phobes are afraid to go outside and meet people. afraid of

[Avicenna]

Both, honestly. Especially if they're using dating apps.

[Adam1978]

Men should be, they are getting the worst deal ever. Women has never been as big liability as today, bringing barely anything beyond sex to the deal. While men are expected to do all the traditional things and half of her task and then she still won't be happy.

[Pegases]

We have so much more to lose when it comes to divorce, and 80% of divorces are initiated by women here in the west. So it's definitely men that are more afraid. Further, that coupled with how easy it is to get laid these days, and how common it is for women to view doing nice things for their man as a form of slavery, there's no incentive for a man to give up his freedom. So I'd say of the men that are afraid of marriage, at least half of them are simply just not interested anymore.

[Anonymous]

I know most women will probably say men. But I think it's because most women are ONLY looking at it from the woman's point of view (as most women do). As I've told you before coach men have to worry about choosing the wrong woman as much as women worry about choosing the wrong man. And HONORABLE guy does NOT abandon his responsibilities. So that's why I'll urge any guy to take his time to vet her. Make sure he knows who she is before taking that leap.

[blissinanarchy1]

Men. We lose a lot. Plus if you’re a man with standards it’s pretty hard nowadays.

I’m a politically moderate left,

but socially conservative. So I don’t go out with girls who do OnlyFans or think being friends with people they fucked before is okay. There aren’t too many likeminded people.

[Anonymous]

I think men are more afraid because they feel like women will just financially use them up with no love (talking particularly from what I saw from america). In a normal country both are equally scarred as dating requers both parties to be vulnerable

[najekim]

I'd say both in their own ways.

Her: He might just want to score and disappear.

Him: She may be a metoo fanatic waiting to ruin my life.

Solution: Roll the dice!

[DizzyDesii]

In modern times i honestly see more men willing to commit but less wanting to marry. And i see more women wanting to marry even if they dont intend to stay faithful/committed

[Filthy_Immigrant]

What kind of question is this?


Men obviously. We are the ones that got to put in all the work in a relationship while risking to lose it all

[coachTanthony]

You're talking about marriage my guy. Not everyone gets married. You can still have a committed relationship without it and won't lose shit if you break it off.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

Nope relationships are just as one sided and non beneficial to us as marriage. The only difference is that you don’t lose it all in a relationship.

I can write a book on why. In a relationship the only benefit you as a man have is sex nowadays while the women has access to your expending, can use you for favors such as fixing her car, standing up for her when she’s in trouble and the list goes on

[coachTanthony]

No a woman might use you if you're stupid but most men don't mind taking care of a woman they love. Real men show women they love them by fixing their car and you see it as some kind of being taken advantage of. You sound beta dude.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

Last time I checked the losers who use the term “alpha, beta, etc” are the real beta who got the blue pill so far stuck up their asses that they can’t realize how much women exploit them just because they believe in that “love” horseshit.

Till then I’m not surprised I mean you are a self proclaimed coach for a reason and last time I checked you dating coaches and PUAs are nothing but simps in super saiyan mode

[coachTanthony]

You tell em lol

[Still-alive]

Its often been said in some circles that women are the gate keepers of sex while men are the gatekeepers of serious relationships. Not sure how true that is but might partially explain it

[Berethor]

Men, because 70% of divorces are filed by women, and women usually marry richer men.

[anon1903]

It'll always be men.

They'd lose a lot due to seperation. Kids, assets, regular sex, they'd have to hire a real maid etc etc.

[Moose304]

I don't think it is as much of a fear as it is to some the juice is just not worth the squeeze. This is not gender specific either.

[Nikki1989]

Most men don't know the meaning of the word.

[Guardian45]

Funny! My experience is the reverse.

[EzioAuditore027]

Hmm, women hahahahahahaha

[AnusNdaPainus]

Men are afraid we have more to lose if it doesn’t workout

[Guardian45]

I disagree

[coachTanthony]

What do you lose if the committed relationship doesn't work out?

[AnusNdaPainus]

His family
His money
His purpose

[coachTanthony]

So you break up with her and she takes your money? LOL

[GassyGasser]

As a guy I'm more cautious of getting used. Even if relationships are transaction of whatever to me the idea feels gross. Same reason I don't like disclosing income.

I provide because I want to not because I have to.

[Keishio]

Men for sure, we've so much more to lose

[msc545]

Many women are actually financially better off after a divorce because they get most of the assets and property, and child support.

[Guardian45]

I'm not sure what is basis of facts, but I disagree

[coachTanthony]

What do you lose if the committed relationship doesn't work out?

[Keishio]

Well if you're committed and it's resulted in marriage then you're more likely to lose your home, kids and a portion of your wage for a good few years

[msc545]

@Guardian45 you disagree with what exactly?

[coachTanthony]

The question wasn't meant to be about marriage just committing to someone. Let's face it most guys on GAG ain't getting married but they can still commit to someone.

[msc545]

In some cases of extended living together, "palimony" laws apply, with men as usual coming up on the losing end.

[coachTanthony]

@msc545 Well just don't live in these states lol Colorado, DC, Iowa, Kansas, Montana, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas and Utah.

[msc545]

It doesn't need to be black letter law - Judges (the biggest simps of all) can do it at their discretion - and they do.

[coachTanthony]

@msc545 Yeah not buying it. That would be all over the news if that were the case.

[Keishio]

Does commitment in a relationship to you not mean leading to marriage? Why would you be committed to a woman if you didn't intend to marry her?

[msc545]

yeah, you don't live in California - I do.

[coachTanthony]

Not everyone want's to get married especially if the two have already been married before and simply don't want to go through it again. So no it does not necessarily mean it should lead to marriage.

[Keishio]

Fair point. I was looking at this through the lens of someone my age or younger. If we're looking at this from an older age then I'd still say men because possibly they've be stung before

[coachTanthony]

@Keishio I think the answer is men as well. Just didn't want to get marriage involved on this one.

[Keishio]

What's your reasoning? Wondering if we come at this from different angles

[msc545]

I don't think marriage is avoidable when discussing this topic.

[coachTanthony]

@Keishio Most men on GAG say there are no benefits for men when it comes to marriage but jump to the conclusion that all committed relationships are somehow 100% linked to marriage. Men can still get involved with women... they don't have to get married... but most just tend to not get involved at all because "marriage" is bad so let's not have any meaningful relations at all with women. It's nonsense to me at least.

[coachTanthony]

@msc545 Many men are binary on this. Marriage is bad for men so lets not get into a meaningful relationship at all. Women are evil blah blah blah

[Keishio]

The only reason I'd disagree is because I've never pursued a woman for a relationship if I didn't want it to go somewhere, marriage wouldn't be at the forefront of my mind but I wouldn't put effort into someone if I didn't want a relationship to grow in that direction

[coachTanthony]

@Keishio That is great for you but just realize that just because two people don't see it the way you do doesn't mean it's not "going anywhere." They just define their goals differently.

[Keishio]

How do you view it?

[coachTanthony]

@Keishio I view it to have many applications. I see it your way which is great and I also see it where two people don't want to maybe get married again or aren't interested in the govt getting into their lives. I do believe two people can have a great relationship without marriage being the goal.

[Keishio]

Yeah I can see that too from an older couple who've already walked that path. I think in that scenario the loss in the commitment isn't a great deal to either apart from the loss of the partner since there isn't that marriage contract

[msc545]

@You are forgetting all the other things women can and will do to men outside of marriage, like false accusations that are automatically believed only when women make them.

[Keishio]

@msc545 that can be cherry picked. Granted more often men get the short end but I wanted to avoid that for a more likely scenario

[msc545]

Almost anything can be Cherry Picked but in this case it isn't necessary to do so in order to make the point. Women have weaponized the legal system and as a result of that are far more dangerous than they ever used to be.

[Anonymous]

Men are definitely more afraid of commitment than women. Took me about a year to get my guy to commit.

[genericname85]

obviously men. cause women ahve nothing to lose.