I don’t care if a woman becomes successful, my only issue is in the western world they have encouraged and accepted toxic feminism. If women and girls want to throw terms, adverbs or whatever out by defining guys (asshole, cheapskate, loser, small dick, short, POS, simp, incel, etc.). Yeah to women who read this and think it’s perfectly fine then don’t whine if you hear (bitch, ho, lazy, manipulative, harlot, home wrecker, bimbo, slut, etc.) in return. It’s hard for men to trust women especially in western countries. Because girls today assume guys still think like it’s the 1940s. That men don’t cook, men don’t clean, etc. Men have enhanced their skills inside and outside the home. But men aren’t going to risk their life, career, status for a woman who has some sick twisted agenda implanted in her mind since she was 8 (ex: bad father), 15 (a crush who broke her heart), 27 (bad divorce). Women are hypocrites — yea I said it. Women will get mad and say guys and men shouldn’t label all females the same, meanwhile because of that 1 bad dude in her life she will have this hell has no fury like a woman scorned. I’m careful who I talk to now. This is not to devalue women, if women want to be successful with a business or pursuing an academic career then go for it. The problem is in the west they want women to break barriers, be independent, make her own money, that’s fine. But to be fine with bad behaviour? Nope that’s where I draw the line in the sand. I am not tolerating bad behaviour. One day, many of these women will be on their death bed, childless, fatherless, no husband, just her wealth that she chased in this world to show off to others and departs this world through death. To women out there, don’t believe in the ideology of feminism. It’s okay to pursue your goals but be a good, noble person as well. This video below explains the separation guys/men have towards females…
https://www.youtube.com/embed/PA1abdfnYqA
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I think it's women's own hypergamy that hurts them the most. Always expecting a better educated, making more money than themselves, and even judging what type of job the man holds really limits the options for a lot of highly successful women. That idea of just holding out until you find a man that has it all drops a lot of them in the post-wall single-for-life category... and the wall is undefeated.
My wife of 14 years isn't single, but she made the trade of my looks and intelligence minus any money at all. It's a relationship where me not meeting some shopping list of standards was given a pass. Mr. Perfect everything is rare, and if Mr. Perfect exists... yes, he will fuck... but, why would he settle for Ms. Average at Best when basically EVERY WOMAN is an option for him? <--That's what ultra-hypergamous chicks fail to understand.
I could keep going with stuff like what's wrong with a plumber when he makes more than the dude that works at the bank and works less? Like when did even the type of job become some standard? ... and there is just lots of stuff like that. That fucking hypergamy is the problem for the vast majority of successful and perpetually single or only having 'situationships' for life types of chicks.
Who said that? It also depends on what the woman wants. The women I’ve seen who are childless, single etc. and successful it’s because they want to be the powerhouse of the relationship, they refuse to compromise with a man and are very controlling. This isn’t just successful women, either.
Successful women can 110% have a partner if they maintain their femininity. I think that’s important. And it wouldn’t be harder, in fact it’d probably be easier since you have access to a wider range of men.
So many men sharing their commentary on what a successful woman would be able to get, yet, they are not successful men themselves, so how would they possibly know?
I know a lot of rich women that have difficulty keeping guys cause the poor guys use the rich girls for money and the rich guys have anger issues and unrealistic expectations because they have an endless flow of girls pursuing them, and do not have a big incentive to work on their personalities to get girls.
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Yeah for sure. Everyone should be so they can survive. Successful is comfortable independence.
It would be nice if all women were in a way where they weren’t negatively emotionally involved.
Nothing narcissistic. Nothing emotionally bizarre or impulsive. I’d hope they’d be more logical than some men and that they’d be caring at times for whoever they work with.
I suppose this will happen and can be done, with time. I’m for it.
Now look. All women are different and so are men. There is shit people in this world. If someone isn’t into you. Move on… Find who does like you.
There is some good successful women who are conservative. But you have bad ones too…. If someone doesn’t want to get married or have kids by choice. I don’t care. That’s her choice.
But I don’t have respect for someone whose just a sexistIt's okay for a woman to become very successful. And whether she decides to get married, have children, etc. is a personal decision. Let's not denigrate a woman because she lives the life she wants to lead.
GOOD?
What is good? What is bad? Define the terms.
Good for a happy, healthy marriage and family and kids?
Studies have shown that the more successful she is the more success she wants in a man so the pool of men she'd date gets smaller and smaller and smaller. So, the concept of not being dependent on a man, so she'd have her own money in case a man left her has the unintended consequence of her now being "too good" for a ton of men.
Women of older generations who were in love and content with an honest, responsible, hard working man who'd make 50,000-65,000 now are too good for him and will only date a man making 120,000.
Even though her own career makes her totally independent and his money SHOULD BE irrelevant, instead she now has to have a man making as much or more than her even though the money is irrelevant to her NEEDING it.
How busy is she and how much time is she away from her kids and husband? If she is now working 50-70 hours a week and traveling all the time. That harms the marriage and the family bond with the kids.
For a woman who is 100% single and doesn't want any type of long term relationship and her career success is how she gets happiness and feels content and fulfilled then spending all her time and energy being succesful is a good thing.
You'd think there wouldn't be any side effects to women having successful positions just like men having such positions.
But there is, and the mainstream media really seems to love dodging it.https://nypost.com/2019/09/25/women-are-struggling-to-find-men-who-make-as-much-money-as-they-do/(so much for that wage gap).
The thing that they are trying to avoid is the fact that men never cared about the status their potential partners had, women do. Once these rich women realize this and lower their standards, all of their dating issues would be solved. I'm not asking for them to go after lazy slobs but they apparently can't even be bothered to look the average man's way.
A female lawyer managed to marry a blue collar worker and it became a news story for crying out loud, and she seems ok with it. Even the article author judged her along with her colleagues by saying that she said "goodbye to the prospect of a glittery Manhattan lifestyle" as if she doesn't have one of the highest paying jobs in existence.
https://nypost.com/2016/06/01/the-solution-to-nycs-man-drought-date-down/
It sounds to me that lowering their standards isn't going to kill these women but it might take a little while to get them to admit to it.
The danger you are describing is real and I know women who fell right into that trap. If a successful woman insists on getting a man who is even more successful than herself then the air is getting thinner and you will have a couple that is very busy and has no time for other things such as family life.
However, I still disagree that it must necessarily turn out that way. It's up to the woman. If she is clever she gets a man who is different from her. He may be an artist or he may have a simple job in which he does nothing special. If he is good-looking it will not hurt. Most of all, if she wants kids she should get a man who likes kids and will look after them when she quickly returns to her important job.
It's easier if she can be happy without kids, but not everybody truly can. I for one could not. For most women it would be a significant sacrifice to forego children in favor of a career. It does not have to turn out that way.Successful women are actually the winners. Because the more money a woman has, the less likely she needs a man. Poor women marry because they NEED to. They can't survive on their own. When a woman want a man but DONT NEED one, she can afford to be picky and have higher standards
I don't care. I will not be generalizing this. But yes, many high ranking people seem to have the God factor. The feeling of controlling.
Which does not work in many cases.
Another point is whether they are able to digest the success or not. Many are able to, and many are not as well. The sad thing here is, those who are able to digest the success get drowned by the bad reputations if those who cannot.
Doctor women/girls are awesome, it seems. They rarely try to avoid the natural obligations that have been or down in both men and women by the nature. At least that is my expereince.
It's really bad for women. Because the few men left they would find suitable to date just go with young bimbos. I mean that's what I do. I can't stand career women. It's nasty gross huge turn off. I literally only care about youth... can't be successful when you're young. Beauty... don't have time for the gym and eating more healthy meals if you're working all day. Pleasant... can't be pleasant when you're stressed and overworked... lastly available. A girl who has nothing going on and can fit in my schedule is much better than one busy working all the time.
So generally men aren't into that. Broke men love successful women but successful women hate broke men.
Hey I was successful and had an amazing man next to me.
In the future though, unless I fall for someone, I’ll just date younger guys, and have a child with some man who can ensure my child will have great genes.
Otherwise I don’t care much, I already had the love of my life, why can’t I take advantage of young hotties the way older men can do? I totally can and I totally will, if I don’t fall for someone close to my age.
Not really true by itself, if she can break one biological barrier she can try to break another. Ie first she sacrifice family for career, then she needs to sacrifice a good partner for a play thing that live of her, and she can get a family just not the one she wanted naturally. Who wins?, the company she worked for and it's share holders. So that is why it's promoted.
Given even highly successful women are just as intent to date up then it necessarily means the dating pool is smaller and that the men she could target likely have better options. On the sex object to success object spectrum men are likely go sex object as the women go success object.
A woman's wealth and success honestly mean very little to me personally.
Well if you follow the data it shows that women being really successful while good in some ways usually doesn't do women any favors and ends up hurting them in the long run.
I disagree with that.
Mainly because we have gift of free will. And we all make our choices. Being partner less doesn't make you "bitter", that's your amatonormative assumption.
And secondly, success is important for survival. Period. If you're threatened by that... Invent a time machine and go back to the good old days. Conservative times, ah.It is great if a woman is successful. Her status with men, I don’t really care to consider. Men preferences are a huge issue anyways that’s full of unrealistic sexist views, why should smart women care about that. Those types of men are better off getting with self hating women like republicans
You assume a successful woman can't date less successful men? Just because she is hardwired to select only more successful men? Do you really think a successful woman is successful because she is retarded?
Sure why not? If you've recently heard that guys tend to steer away from successful women from some guy, or YouTube video, that answer isn't quite right.
They steer away from this who come home and don't turn off the masculine traits that are generally necessary for women to move up the career ladder. It's hard for many to revert back to o the feminine roll many men desireI don't see why it can't be good to be very successful at your career and dreams.
Women that are doctors, teachers, lawyers, politicians etc are married and doing fine.
The problem only comes if a person in this case a woman neglects her family, children and husband otherwise its fine.
Despite what you said in another comment "It messes her dating life and her ability to life a functional life as a woman and procreate which her natural evolutionary path" It's her choice if she wanna take that path and if she's happy with it, good for her. It's only gonna hurt her if she wanted a functional life as a woman and procreate which her natural evolutionary path after all.
Its compulsory for a woman to be successful. She dont need a men to tell her where to or where to not go, what to do and what not to do. He will choose a man that obeys her and will be obliged to respect her. He will not abuse her and will not supress her. She will not be oblige to listen each and every nonsense came out of his mouth like a poor woman do.
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