Guys, would you feel good if dating norms were reversed? Why or why not?

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[blueonblack22]

Here are two stereotypical drawbacks/advantages depending if you are (at least semi attractive) man or woman:

If you are man:

Disadvantages: you have to stick your neck out if want something to happen. There is only a 1 in maybe 10000 chance your equivalent will ever approach. 1 in 100000 chance if a girl who is out of your league approaches you. It is also risky to know if that woman has genuine intentions in those rare scenarios.

You will get approached by women who are lesser attractive from time to time. But goods will never come to you if you don’t try. Whether you like it or not it’s on you to make a move. It’s also a much higher bar for you to “be someone” and be prominent and make money.

Advantages: you are less likely to be sexually harassed and/or stalked. I have had both happen in my life but they are rare. I did have one really bad incident when a few years ago though.

If you are woman:

Disadvantages: you got to deal with often annoyance by being eyed up from men or worse in some scenarios. You are more likely to deal with sexual harassment. You also got to deal with backstabbing jealousy from other women. If you are smart, rich it makes little impact on your date-ability for most men.

Advantages: you can get sex literally anytime you want and your true equivalent will approach you. You don’t have to worry about rejection or looking “like a creep” the same way guys do. You rarely have to deal with friéndzone bs. Also you have much less pressure to make money, be prominent and act “confident” to get what you want. You don’t have to have a supermodel body either but you have to be at baseline shape. If you are single it’s voluntary.

Considering the above women have an advantage. Hands down.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Yes... I miss being chased by women. The days of grabbing a beer and just posting up on the wall with my beer and getting picked up by women died when I moved back to America. This place is absolute rubbish for men...

- Here, you probably need to hit the weights at least as much as me.

Me

- Probably should learn game, or this stupid PUA stuff. Basically, learn to be a used car salesman except you're selling your used beat-up penis to women. Learn to speak that amorous sweet nothings of bullshit to make a woman's heart flutter.

- Then on top of that, work your ass off at some shit job that makes some boomer rich, just so you'll look like a sweet sweet target for stealing money from.

... and then I guess your American SMV will go up just enough that you'll get a fat chick.

I'm married, so I don't give a fuck anymore and the only reason I hit the weights is that I want to be one of those big swole 80-year-old dudes that outlives his wife and bangs a few more 18-year-olds before I die. Everyone's gotta have goals right?

[DizzyDesii]

I’ve asked out guys before. Paid for guys on dates before. Initiated sexual stuff first before. So will it really be that different aside from more of us women approaching them? I’m just not the type to propose to a dude tho

[Billlewis]

@DizzyDesii That's so exciting...

[DizzyDesii]

@Billlewis lol not your type of exciting. It was still very PG-13 🤣

[Billlewis]

I can be very happy with just a plain vanilla type of arrangement. All I want is for her to keep me sexually frustrated and hopefully date a real man once in a while, but only if she's very attracted to him.

[DizzyDesii]

@Billlewis smdh

[Likes2drive]

You’re definitely not the norm, most women won’t do that but it would be refreshing if they did

[EmmaMary]

What exactly do you consider to be "normal dating" rules/regulations?

[EmmaMary]

Thank you for the MHO.

[razelove]

No, I wouldn't want to be passive in selecting partners. Also it simply wouldn't work, our society and values reflect our sexuality. Women would need a ridiculously short gestation, and men would need to get off once every 3 months or something ridiculous for that paradigm to be reversed.

Dating represents a scarcity because of unlimited desire, and the limited resource of time.

[SolitarySolace]

I’d be cool with a month where women have to find out what it’s like to approach a man instead of the man having to do all the work he already has to do all the work anyway. I doubt women would though. I mean, shit, they don’t even start conversations on dating apps 😂 yet they claim to want relationships.

[Kabluie]

I was asked out before, next thing we dated for a year. It wasn't on my mind, was someone I hung out in the college dorms during their freshman year, so we were almost 4 years apart then. I got more turned on over time about how infatuated they were since that moment we met.

[Likes2drive]

I think it would be quite interesting if they did, in fact my relationship’s always worked out and lasted a long time when I knew they really liked me, I will feel bad rejecting the ones I’m not attracted to but they seem to do that all the time to guys

[Anonymous]

That would be kind of fun. Getting to call women creepy for all thier creepy forward behavior. But I'm such a nice guy I'm not sure I'd be able to be as artful with the rejection as women. Dishonesty and deception just kind of comes natural to a woman. They lie so much i think they really believe the lie when they are telling you it.

[NamerOfStars]

Briefly. I think a better question is "How long would you feel good if dating norms were reversed?". The grass always looks greener on the other side, after all.

[ohboyherewegoagain]

No. I am a goddamn man. I’ll do the asking. The dating norms are fine.


The heart of the matter is that men assume more ego risk in getting rejected because they often have to initiate actions to interact with women. The problem is too many weak men and too many male hating female’s in the the modern society. That’s OK. It makes a real man a diamond in the rough to a deserving lady.

[Pohjolan]

So basically we could the same things as now plus have a higer chance of a gal making the move on us?

Its not like there would be anything to lose.

[slatyb]

What dating norms? There are dating norms? I just thought it was something two people did, and they made their own norms. No one else gets a vote.

[strateguy632]

if she paid i would feel something is wrong

[Luopio27]

If the roles were reversed, all it would take for guys to be sex magnets is to hit the gym, get a 6 pack stomach, muscular arms and legs.


Its not the body only that counts with women.

[Molly1997]

My boyfriend said if I propose to him he’ll say no 😭 😂

[Unknown29]

I don’t blame him.

[EricSummer]

Why is that? Does he want to be the one who proposes? Or does he want someone else some time later?

[Molly1997]

@EricSummer he wants to be the one to propose he is traditional like that

[Unit1]

i prefer equalizing how dating works rather than reversing it. No more doing nothing when a person likes someone.

[anon1903]

I've asked people out. Rejections are quite bitter.

[CuriousMufuxka]

Like if women asked men out? Nah. I always liked the chase, well after I first got a yes anyway.

[Shy_Steve]

I think I would, It would be great.

Girls wouldn't be able to cope with the loneliness if Gender roles were swapped.

[shades777]

there's only 2 things I feel comfortable letting a woman get on her knees for, tieing my shoes and you can guess what the other is

[justabuddy]

I've been asked out before, it didn't bother me. She paid for one date I paid for the second. You' re spending time with someone you like, that's all that mattered.

[RingOfFire]

Maybe I would feel good if I was gay. But I'm not. So no, I wouldn't feel good.

[LiamJHayden]

Nope. I like to ask and have no problem with being rejected.