If women aren't taught how to invest in a man or I should men invest in women?

[chris_987]

There was a time when going up as a young woman you were taught how to take care of a home and cater to your man. And the man was taught that it's his duty to protect and provide for his family.

Nowadays, modern woman work and want to take on the same role as a man but they lack the skills to make a house of home. So isn't it if inevitable that we just have a hookup culture and marriages on the decline?

[HelpfulWoman]

The dynamic is dead. Being able to take care of a home is now, and should, be considered a basic skill for either gender. (This is generalised, those who consensually decide to conform to "traditional" roles are perfectly okay too). Marriages are also of little worth nowadays due to how they were created. There's just no reason to have them as they don't specifically enhance a relationship. Hookup culture has always been a thing, it's now more prominent, but it's still a minority just as it probably always will be.

[chris_987]

I don't think it should be dead, especially if you want the society to thrive for the next 100 years. Marriages is the only institution that actually keeps society functioning whether you guys wanted to admit it or not

[HelpfulWoman]

@chris_987
so what does marriage actually give? how does that keep society functioning?

[chris_987]

Well let's see a place where marriage isn't a thing like Japan where the birth rates are falling schools have to be shut down. There are more old people than there are young people. So the majority of the government handouts have to go to take care of the elderly. It isn't affecting you now, but eventually that will be most of the future of mankind if we decide to stop getting married and have kids.

[HelpfulWoman]

@chris_987
But marriage isn't a direct correspondence to that. Correlation doesn't mean Causation :)

[HelpfulWoman]

you also haven't actually given me a direct reason for marriage or how it contributes to society. A random example with only a "this will be the future" sort of preach isn't really a commanding argument.

[chris_987]

So you don't believe that marriage is the highest form of commitment?

I specifically went out of my way to show places that don't have higher marriage rates. So pay attention to what I'm doing and not what you want me to do.

[HelpfulWoman]

No, I don't. Because marriage doesn't offer any more "commitment" than a regular relationship to me. As I said, it doesn't enhance a relationship.
You also mentioned only japan and then went on a rant rather than relaying a argument. It's not me who needs to pay attention here if your points are something happening in general due to a also lower infant death rate, and not solely on marriage rates. You "specifically" left any argument out of your argument.

[HelpfulWoman]

and then the "oo silly woman listen to me" as a response to my response.

[chris_987]

Yeah that's where we disagree, I think a man who wants to marry you is the highest form of commitment. But if you don't believe that, that's fine

[Anonymous]

Traditional gender roles are still taught, but in this day and age the only institutions that continue to teach them are religious ones. More and more people are moving away from religion, whether it be Christianity, Muslim, Hindu, or many of the others that still practice these traditional roles. Even some Christian denominations will acknowledge the value of men providing and women staying at home, but not preach or enforce it. Marriage is a partnership, and we know that, for the sake of the family and its survival, sometimes women need to be in the workforce.

[chris_987]

I've never been to a church where they told women to stay home

[Opinion Owner]

There’s a few churches I’ve been to that didn’t directly teach it, but you could tell it was the general consensus. The church I attend right now is a homeschool church.

[_Maya_]

There was a time... yeah it was called the 1950s and that's where your mind seems to be stuck. The world changes dude. You either change with it or crawl into a hole and login into GaG to birch about it. Why in your mind is it that women should just stay stuck in the past? Why aren't we allowed to evolve our roles in the world? Also why can't men evolve to do some damn work around the house too? What's keeping you from it. Why can't a man and woman both work and come home and put in equal work into maintaining a home? What's your excuse for that? Don't give me that protection bullshit because I don't need it. I have a license to carry in my state.

[chris_987]

Lol It wasn't the 1950s it was pretty much all of human history up until now. And you think that changing it will all of a sudden means it's going to be better. That's an asinine statement

And plus I hear a lot of women complaining that they have to work for the rest of their lives. We're in the past they had a man to just take care of them. You seem smart. Tell me what's a better deal being stuck at a dead end job or just raising a family.

[_Maya_]

Why would my job be dead end? What makes you assume that?

And yeah it was like that but things change. Either accept it or not. It isn't going to stop us either way.

[HelpfulWoman]

I can full heartedly say raising a family is the worse deal XD raising a family is having a dead end job to be fair XD

[chris_987]

Most jobs are dead end jobs. You believe working at Starbucks or being a pencil Pusher for some corporation is a higher purpose than starting a family?

[_Maya_]

Who the fuck said I'm going to do either? See this is what happens when you make assumptions. I'm starting my masters degree in criminology. Hardly a dead end job.

[chris_987]

Most jobs are dead jobs. That literally has nothing to do with studying law.

You don't know the difference between a job and a career than why are you arguing with me?

[_Maya_]

You don't even know what a career in criminology is and you're lecturing me? It has zero to do with studying law. God... before you spew out words you might actually want to look up what sort of jobs you get from it. I have my undergraduate degree in psychology. My masters will be in criminology. My career will be as a forensic psychologist. So you are wrong on all accounts.

[chris_987]

To be fair, I don't really listen to women. You guys don't operate on logic so I just say the truth and move on with my life

[_Maya_]

And what do you do that is so important to this world as a career? If you are so truthful. Can't be much with the amount of time you're here. At least I can say I haven't started school yet.

"To be fair, I don't really listen to women."

So you're jyst ignorant? I'll wait for the reply of what you do that is so grand in this world. This ought to be good.

[chris_987]

No, I don't listen to women in general because they're not interested in a logical argument. Facts don't matter to you guys. You just want to be right and then block the person. So what's really the point of having a back and forth?

Emotional people just like children should not be argued with unless you like arguing with children but I don't. So that's why I don't argue with women.

[_Maya_]

What do you do for a living? Conveniently ignoring that aren't ya?

[_Maya_]

And you ONLY ask girls only questions and then say you don't care what girls have to say. Do you realize how pathetic that sounds?

[chris_987]

I'll put two into together if I ask only those questions that means. I'm talking to mostly girls on this website and it's been my experience that day. Actually don't want to have a logical argument. They want to just be right and block you afterwards so you're not disturbing my point.

And if you want to know what I do for a living, you can message me in the private section. But you won't because as I said before, as a girl your not here to learn anything Just got babble on about how wrong everybody else is

[_Maya_]

Lmaoooooo just tell me your profession! Why can't you just say it here? I'm an accountant. I'm a lawyer. i'm a... why does it have to ge private. All that tells me is you have a bs job and don't want everyone to know because that makes you a hypocrite. You think women should stay at home and wait for you to come home from your dead end job. 😆

Secondly you said you don't pay attention to what women say because blah blah blah. Yet you only ask girls questions. So you don't want to listen to us but only ask girls. That's the sign of someone with more than a few screws loose or a troll. Could be both too. Your mind might be as narrow as your...

I'm going to mute this and not answer your questions from now on. You might not care but you don't get a lot of opinions because people see you for who you are I suspect. Bye bye!

[chris_987]

Totally unaware that she proved my point but whatever

[HelpfulWoman]

It's interesting he thinks women are like children and that child like people should be making children? So you're actually just a bit of a pedo then😂 add that to the incel and shit.

[chris_987]

People who are young and think they know everything e. i most women. Or what children also believe. So I'm not wrong in saying that women are childlike and how they think.

You can call me a child too if I believe it that I know everything and block people who disagree

[LazerBean]

Go ahead and do that, that's what you want to and will do anyway.

[Jkgordon]

I’m not catering to nobody I’m not Edith bunker