Will women be seeking Alpha or Beta males in 2024?

[coachTanthony]

Welcome to the first Alpha Beta male question of 2024 LOL

Alpha

Beta

Any male that will pay their bills

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

A man that knows/shows his strength/masculinity by the strength of his character , actions, words… not a man that will label himself an alpha or beta or will allow anyone else to label him as such… there’s good and bad men, good and bad women, good and bad people period… instead of these bogus man made labels 🙄(there simplified it for you 😁)

[KrakenAttackin]

**Yawn**

[sawno]

I mean they can label me all I want but I still go my own path rather than playing silly alpha male competition games.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@KrakenAttackin back at yah 😝

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@sawno there yah go 👍

[CalmUntilAbused]

@Brainsbeforebeauty

And the funny thing is... what You described as the kind of man You're attracted to is basically the definition of an Alpha male... though regarding "words", the right description of an Alpha male in this aspect would be "a man of few words". Alpha males take what they want without asking for permission, they don't need to ask questions about female behavior because they understand it instinctively, and they set rules for themselves, so they are unlikely to ask a lot of questions anyway, so You will not encounter them on GaG.

Also, I love Your attitude towards the world, splitting it into good and evil.

[Z1pTD]

^^^^^

[KrakenAttackin]

@Brainsbeforebeauty. We should talk about the legions of men who are just checking out entirely. Many women try to guilt these men by calling them "incels" or some other derogatory term. But the reality is a large percentage of the younger male population is just plain done.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@KrakenAttackin really? I see men calling men incel, simp, etc, etc more than I see women doing it… on here anyways… I don’t hear those bogus terms in daily life at all… maybe because the people I talk to/a, we talk about REAL life, REAL issues, not this made up bogus crap people be slinging on here 🙄 and again, I don’t see fits checking out… most the young guys at my job are either married or in a relationship… same for the young men I’m related to either by blood or by marriage… 🤷‍♀️

[mandyfire98]

Neither. I'll be staying away from anyone who uses these terms at all. Or anyone who takes any sort of pretend colorful pills.

[Sparkie460]

I take an imaginary yellow silly pill. I guess you're staying away from me?

[mandyfire98]

I'm not even sure what the yellow pill is lol. I'm only educated on the red pill, blue pill and black pills.

[Sparkie460]

Open your right hand. Do you see it

[mandyfire98]

Haha. I'll take that skin pill tho

[Sparkie460]

You opened your hand? Silly.
What are the red and black pills for? I've never heard about them

[mandyfire98]

You don't want to know lol.

[Sparkie460]

That bad huh

[dynamicyandere]

@Sparkie460 Let’s just say that ‘red pill’ content online teaches men to distrust all women. And ‘black pill’ content takes that to a whole other extreme. They’re misogynistic ideologies, that have spread online like an ugly cancer. Meaningful relationships can’t be built upon the distrust of all women.

[mandyfire98]

Pretty much. It's basically blaming women for all problems and making us out to be all terrible and corrupt and evil. It's basically summed up as

"I can't get no pussy so all women are evil."

[Sparkie460]

Women are not the problem. Honestly, guys are the problem. They just try to get into women's pants, and when they get what they want, they leave them and move on to the next victim.
What happened to just forming a true relationship?

[Billlewis]

Actually, I think it's more like, 'I can't get any pussy, therefore, all women are superior to me, and I'd better work harder!'

[Sparkie460]

@Billlewis just keep choking your chicken and leave the women for me

[Billlewis]

@Sparkie460 Yes, Sir, thank you for reminding me of just how utterly pathetic I truly am.

[mandyfire98]

Hahaha

[jennifer_bloom]

I don’t view alpha males as guys with big muscles and large friendship networks. I view alpha males as the guy that is humble and hard working and modest and generous. I’ve met alpha males that weighed less than 110 pounds cause they had high I. Q.‘s. I’ve met alpha males that were under 5 feet tall cause they worked as doctors who were kind to their patients. I’ve met alpha males that stuttered when they talked cause they were protective towards vulnerable people. A guy with big muscles and a boastful attitude is less important than a pot roast pig to me. Alpha male means virtuous male, at least to me.

[CalmUntilAbused]

Now... What You're talking about might be "quality men", but not "Alpha males". Alpha males are quite strictly defined using a pretty primitive analogy to animal hierarchies. Alpha males are basically never humble, and they are only as hardworking as necessary. They take what they want without asking for permission and set the rules for themselves. While a man that could be considered a "positive Alpha" might be generous and somewhat humble/modest, these are estimated to be ridiculously rare. What You are describing are non-spineless Beta males (that's formally an oxymoron, but what I mean is that the men You describe fulfill all the requirements for Beta males except being spineless). I'm not saying this Alpha male/Beta male distinction is perfect and unbiased, but it's somewhat practical and who You are talking about are definitely not Alpha males.

[dynamicyandere]

Where’s the sigma option?…


I kid. 🤣


Alpha, beta, sigma, or not, women just want to be with guys that have their sh*t together.

(Or are at least working hard towards that.)

[coachTanthony]

sigma lol

[dynamicyandere]

Anyone who labels themselves an Alpha rarely ever is.

And most people who want to call themselves Sigma just do so to feel better about themselves for not coming off as an Alpha.

But from every video I’ve seen so far explaining this Sigma phenomenon, a Sigma just sounds like an introverted Alpha.

And these videos that pedestalize Sigmas often portray Alphas as loud, aggressive, emotionally volatile, etc. Basically, a bully.

But, a real Alpha is supposed to be a leader that commands respect and loyalty.

What they portray as “Alpha” is actually “Beta” and what they portray as “Sigma” is actually “Alpha”.

But I say, just do away with all these labels, since at the end of the day, it’s all about varying degrees of respect.

Someone who slaps the Alpha/Sigma label on themselves aren’t automatically going to command respect.

People command respect through their character and their actions, not empty words, labels, or titles.

Thanks for listening to my short TED Talk. 🙂

[coachTanthony]

LOL thanks for the TED

[KrakenAttackin]

You are kidding yourself. Plenty of men have their shit together but women are busy chasing the top 4% of men.

[dynamicyandere]

@KrakenAttackin I'd argue that what I said still applies.

It's a spectrum, right?

The top 4% of men are simply the men who have their sh*t together the MOST.

One end of the spectrum for having one's sh*t together could be having a job, a car, and a place of their own.

The other end of the spectrum for having one's sh*t together could be someone who has almost fully actualized their true potential --- becoming a top 1% expert in their field of choice, being in the best shape of their life, being surrounded by friends and family that love them, and accomplishing all their goals and dreams, etc.

At the end of the day, what one considers having one's sh*t together is subjective.

But, what I'm sure we can both agree on is women are definitely not going after men who DON'T have their sh*t together. (e. g. Men who are out of shape, broke, emotionally immature, and undisciplined.)

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@KrakenAttackin “yawn” aren’t you tired of spreading the same misinformation/falsehoods… So all women in the world are busy chasing just the top 4%…🤣 come on you have to admit how ridiculous that statement is 🤣

[KrakenAttackin]

@Brainsbeforebeauty This is data provided by dating apps.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@KrakenAttackin 🤣 dating apps 🤣 yeah cuz that’s reliable data 😂😂 aren’t you old enough to know better by now… I go by the couples I SEE in real life, and I can tell you I see plenty of women with men that would hardly be considered the top 4%by people like you, but to them they probably are THEIR top 4%…but hey, go on quitting dating app data 🤦🏼‍♀️🤣

[KrakenAttackin]

@Brainsbeforebeauty The dating apps released a study that was eye opening. Collectively women consider 80% of men to be "unattractive", which is statistically impossible. 86% of female "right swipes" go to the top 4% of men.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@KrakenAttackin that’s dating apps… You act like every woman uses dating apps 🤦🏼‍♀️…

[sawno]

If we are going to do the whole label definition thing to me an Alpha is a leader by authority, he is challenged and will defend his position and considers himself a head of the pack. Meanwhile a Sigma will not care for the whole label stuff, do his own thing and people naturally follow him for it finding the alpha somewhat ridiculous by comparison.

[Anonymous]

This whole alpha/beta/sigma crap is a getting really dated now. I admit I once bought into it years ago. Would only call girls when I felt like it. Rarely said sorry even though I should. Did lots of macho stuff like mma (which I still like). Always felt like I would win if I was the loudest in group and spoke my mind. If I felt like making a move on a girl I would just do it (consensually of course). Didn’t waste too much time talking to her and getting to know her.

But then everything is convoluted and fucked up now given we went through #metoo, lockdowns and modern feminist insanity that guys don’t know what if up is down or left is right. Some twisted women truly believe “regret is rape” now.

Many guys are just giving up now. Statistically 63% of young men under 30 are now reportedly single.

Now 63% are men under 30 just “beta” males or alphas who decided go take a break? Is that what really happened? Or maybe it’s a lot more complicated than labels.

I’ve outgrown that labeling shit and maybe other people should too. So sick of the fake bravado. I am independent and do what I like. I keep myself in shape and do lots of hobbies. Why should I give a shit about “proving” myself to people and particularly women I am an “alpha” male. In fact any man (or woman) who calls themself that and/or tries to go around bullying other people by calling them “betas” is just a deeply insecure jackass. Ironically a true beta.

I used to be friends with a girl who tried to promote a so called “alpha female” clothing line. She was so “alpha” she often ghosted guys for fickle and ridiculous reasons. She once stood a guy up just because he called her “babe” twice in a text message (he didn’t do anything else wrong). She was so “alpha” she didn’t want to give him a heads up she couldn’t make it. Later she then ghosted me and then tried to reconnect 2 years later.

I told her what a fake pos she is and to go pound sand. This time I blocked and ghosted her but not until after speaking my mind. Who’s the “alpha” in that scenario? At least I spoke my mind and stuck to my decision

Anyway are a lot more complicated than wolves. Even that study was later disproven.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/YTyQgwVvYyc

[AngryCarl]

I'm going to binge watch Adam Ruins Everything now. I'm just saying.

[Opinion Owner]

@AngryCarl He’s entertaining yet sticks to the facts.

[CalmUntilAbused]

It always have been, currently is and will be Alpha males who are being instinctively sought by women. However, in some cases, women are actually intelligent and go for the best mix of Alpha and Beta traits in a man, so that the man in question is not a spineless doormat and can stand his ground if needed, but values the family and society in general enough not to leave it. Bad news is, if You want to find such a woman in the Western world... You are really unlikely to succeed.

To say more about that perfect mix... If You're actually familiar with the Red Pill approach, you might have heard about "shit tests" and "comfort tests". The shit tests are to assess a man's capability to stand their ground and defend themselves (and their family - or that's what is implied, at the very least), while comfort tests basically assess whether a man is civil or a sadictic brute. Women seek men who can pass both types of tests, and neither an absolute Alpha nor an absolute Beta can achieve this. It's just that most men, especially these days, pass the comfort tests without even trying and there are few who are capable of passing the shit tests, that's why the latter are so well-known and hated. It's just like with those people hating on Maths just because they don't understand it and cannot pass a Maths test. And yet, both the humanities tests and the Maths tests are perfectly natural and they are perfectly fine, unless You've got one or more of each per day (though I guess the most sane setup in case od comfort tests and shit tests is about one of each per about every three months, and only taking place until You pass a few of them consecutively with flying colors).

[Siri137]

All of this alpha/beta nonsense is silly. It isn't based in reality.

[coachTanthony]

Its as real as society makes it.

[Siri137]

Well, "society" has rejected this concept due to the fact that it doesn't reflect the reality most of us are in tune with.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@siri137

I'd say this classification is "correct by default". It originates from a primitive analogy to animal hierarchies and where there are no man-made hierarchies present, this basic classification applies. Whenever some man-made hierarchy is valid, this classification can be made more detailed and developed based on what's valued in the hierarchy in question. Thus, the Alpha/Beta classification is by no means silly, just not directly valid in all cases.

[WhyohWhy69]

Oops chose wrong. I think using words like Aloha and Beta make you sound like a loser. Just being honest. I’d also be really careful assuming women are just using men. It will poison and good relationship you have.

[coachTanthony]

Aloha to you lol

[WhyohWhy69]

Hehe Alpha. My bad…

[DarkLegacy]

Says the loser who can barely spell a word of English

[WhyohWhy69]

@DarkLegacy yeah I know how to spell it. I also know what kind of person you are. You cry about someone hitting an O instead of the P right by it. You think that discredits anything I say. Maybe that’s part of your problem.

[WhyohWhy69]

@DarkLegacy it didn’t end well for men like you in the states. Good luck to you and how history will remember people like you.

[DarkLegacy]

@WhyohWhy69 I do not live in the states, i live in the UK

[WhyohWhy69]

@DarkLegacy no shyt. Read what I said. Shame to you and all your poison.

[NathanDavis]

they never were...

it's only idiots online looking up Andrew Tate... or whoever did this shit after/before him...

[1ash-Silver]

Either a man is good or he is bad. The only weak men are the men that are bad. All good men are strong , it's a challenge to remain good in your heart in a world as cruel as this one. Some of the greatest men have lost their humanity after incurring a devastating loss , for example : losing a loved one. The whole male archetype teaching gives bad men the platform to receive the same respect and love as good men. Just because it praises the qualities that a man may possess doesn't mean its good. Remember bad men can have a lot of good qualities , the devil takes care of his children. I know many bad men that can be called Alphas so this is useless.

The manosphere doesn't serve good men, it instead fills their heads with nonsense so that women will not find good men attractive and then bad men capitalize by acting like "Alpha" and "Sigma" so look if you sell this to women and they believe it , well, was it really worth it?

[gayesblog]

In 2024, seeking "Alpha" or "Beta" males is becoming really outdated. Increasingly, women prioritize personal compatibility, shared values, emotional intelligence, and mutual respect over traditional stereotypes of masculinity. Now, the focus is more on individual connection than fitting into specific categories....

[DarkLegacy]

Certainly not true here in the UK. The Alpha and Beta thing is a modern concept and one of the many bad legacies of feminism and copying modern fashion statements

[Minxxie]

We are seeking men who are too mature for this bs.

My boyfriend is not an alpha or a beta... he's a good person who works hard but can still be playful, he's masculine but he can still be vulnerable, people cannot just be reduced down to stupid categories like that.

[Lionman95]

I say women will go with the guys that are prepared to pay the bills and the guy that doesn´t make them feel like they date a baby. Women nowadays still prefer guys that can take the lead but no jerks and want to be alpha/"high value guys" that just talk and later ghost them after sex. I don´t buy in the alpha/beta game because to me those categories are stereotypes and artificial.

[WhyohWhy69]

Who said women expect you to pay for everything? I’m a pretty hard worker.

[Lionman95]

I'm not saying that women expect guys for them but I'd rather day that women don't want a guy that isn't able to care for himself.

[Billlewis]

@WhyohWhy69 Who said guys shouldn't pay for everything, every day, every time, even if you're on a date with another guy?

[Lionman95]

There self respect. It's a choice aa guy has there's no law that makes him. If I was on a date with a woman and she told me another guy is paying for this I would have no respect for that dude since he seems like a doormat to be used.

[WhyohWhy69]

@Billlewis I really think it depends. Just saying- my man treats me all the time. Sometimes, I take him out. He gets grumpy though if I try and take him out too much though. Kindness with kindness. Alpha/Beta losers are very unkind to good women. They like to steal important things from others just because a woman said no. That’s not even taking into account all the violent crimes they commit. Awful people.

[Billlewis]

@WhyohWhy69 Yes, ma'am. I consider myself a beta male and a 'good' incel -- in other words, I probably could have sex with a reasonably attractive female if I really wanted to, but in my case, not getting any 'you-know-what' just makes me so delightfully sweet, so I tell women when I meet them, that to get the most out of the relationship, she should just keep me horny and frustrated all the time ❤️

[WhyohWhy69]

Yeah? Then don’t date if you don’t expect to be generous. It takes generosity on both ends to make a relationship last. Why are you assuming women are cheating? Another guy is paying for her dates? 🙄

[HawkPerception]

Most women in Western society are materialistic gold diggers and would only be with a guy that pays their bills, but if they both the alpha and beta pay and the girl had to choose alpha or beta it's always gonna be alpha.

[Tiptoetamm]

Personally I'm more attracted to alpha men but that's just me

[Tiptoetamm]

Probably because I'm dominate by nature and I need someone to put me in my place lol

[LiamJHayden]

Beats me. I'm just going to keep on cruising solo, only picking up hitchhikers when the mood hits me.

[PBandJ_Nerd]

I don't know, I'm a woman and I couldn't tell you.

[ChicoFromThe305]

Something I've learned from being on this site for longer than I should have, I learned that anyone that mentions these terms usually have a very toxic and useless view of society, twisted would be the best way to put it 😂

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

🤣🤣 so very true lol

[ChicoFromThe305]

Lol.

[RedInnocent68]

Alpha, always. But it’s also relative. She might see a beta as alpha to her if she’s gamna or whatever.

[systemsareyo]

Lol it may be the time to shine for the Beta kalew, lol especially if I wish there was another global recession 2024, I wish. 😋😁

[systemsareyo]

autocorrect : Males, not Kalew, what's kalew? Lol stupid autocorrect

[PeachyPie93]

Any guy that has emotional intelligence, has decent looks and is working hard. I don't get what is with these loser labels that this gen keeps throwing out.

[sawno]

Why wouldn't they just seek someone they are compatible with? Its not like every girl has the same personality either.