In dating, do you think there are more guys catching on to the games that girls play or more girls catching on to the games that guys play?

[Jammaa]

I'm sure there are plenty of you who don't play any games but there are definitely games being played to win over the other party.

I'm basically asking if there are more girls understanding about the games that guys play or the other way around?

Girls are seeing through the games more

Guys are seeing through the games more

Honestly I think they're both getting played equally

A total of 49 votes were cast: 14 girls and 35 guys. See detailed results

[MMelanieM]

Not wanting to toot my horn here, but only going to mention it as we are on the topic. So I'm told by most people in my country that I'm beautiful looking. I on the other hand don't give it too much importance. And I'm very shy, so I get tensed when I get any attention. But all my life I get head turns, guys approaching in their various ways. I haven't found a guy in my much younger days who have seemed sincere enough and I have always found them going behind many other girls and the ones that are open to hooking up early get the guy. I have had guys appearing to be sincere and then I can literally read their mind with the way their eyes wonder and a smile that comes onto their faces, almost like they think they are going to get lucky with me for a hook up. I have seen professional sweet talkers at university, who seem amazing and yet a different girl by their hand every week. And it goes on... I'm yet to meet a very sincere man, who sincerely is seeking for great compatibility. I'm sorry I've just been meeting too many guys who just want to play around, like they have a buffet around them. At work, some men remove their wedding bands and have a different relationship at work. It disturbs me to see where the world is going on and monogamy isn't a thing these days.

[MMelanieM]

I also personally feel - Please stop playing & just be true to you, the other person and the situation. I'm not a player/gamer (don't know the right word here)... but just don't string and all the other works. at least if you know the girl is the genuine sort and your not on the same page, just leave her alone please! & Vice versa

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Men will fake entire personalities to date a girl because they’re so lonely.


Women will do the same because they hate being alone more than being in a shitty relationship.


Every person just needs to learn to be happy alone before trying to get someone to romantically love them

[blueonblack22]

Well relationships and marriage used to be very important for a woman’s livelihood and survival a century and more ago. Women supposedly understood men better than vice versa because they had to.

But now given virtually everything a man can offer a woman is “optional” in the western modern world. So fewer women we putting in the mental effort into figuring out what men want and/or are up to. Many of them only care about gratifying their immediate impulses.

Men are forced to “try harder”. They are definitely thinking harder about female behavior. But it’s a riddle they can’t solve because the right answer is always changing. Some are finding success (congrats to you guys who got someone decent) and others are just getting too jaded and quitting. Male bachelor rates are at record highs.

It used to be A. But now I lean to B and C is likely accurate.

[MMelanieM]

Is it a fact that Bachelors are high? Which age group though?

Reading your 1st paragraph says a lot - Because that was the case for many, women have seen their mom's, aunt's, grand mothers, be submissive and supress themselves, the men used their power to abuse, over control their lives and see many negative treatments towards the women. Their son's watching that, think that's the norm. The daughters watching this might think its the morn for most parts of their life. The underlying thing here is that the home makers were not respected and because of that I have seen many boy's & men believe that that's how you treat a woman. As a woman of today's times, I'll speak for myself, I seek respect from a man & as men are physically stronger than a woman, I'd wish my man to use that strength carefully on me and not use it for abuse. There should be mutual respect and care towards one and other.

As for your 2nd paragraph - what aspects do you feel that you have to try harder?

[blueonblack22]

@MMelanieM “ Because that was the case for many, women have seen their mom's, aunt's, grand mothers, be submissive and supress themselves, the men used their power to abuse, over control their lives and see many negative treatments towards the women.”

So do you think this really was “the norm” back then? Do you really believe there were more abusive back then vs. men who respected and loved their wives? Do you really believe the majority of women were in abusive marriages and/or unhappy?

[blueonblack22]

@mmelaniem https://youtu.be/Tmo8geBTARk?si=llwphhLPzbB4zg28

[ManOnFire]

Definitely guys catching on to the games more, because most men were not taught about the slimy stuff women can do when they were young, they had to find it out through trial and error. Parents and society have done a disservice to our young men by falsely teaching them that women are only good and all have good intentions and just want a romantic partner with sex inside of a relationship. A lot of guys found out through experience how untrue that is.

Girls tend to think guys are playing games more than they really are because they overthink everything, yet underthink the guys who really are slimy. And because girls know the things they do i. e. playing games, breadcrumbing, trying to manipulate, etc., so they think guys must be doing the same things too even when they're not.

[msc545]

I think men are beginning to be aware of the manipulative tricks that women employ against them. These are not games. They are manipulative, evil and ugly methods of controlling men's behavior and taking control of their wealth. They are also a way of punishing men using a weaponized legal system against them. As a result, more and more men are refusing to get married, refusing to have children and refusing to interact with women. Many men have given updating all together because doing so. It's just seems futile and actually dangerous.

[MMelanieM]

What are some of these manipulative things women use? I'm curious because I don't manipulate and it baffles me to see women around me do that and it sickens me. But I see also manipulate through control.

[Billlewis]

Women will always have a tremendous advantage over the guys who pursue them, in the hopes of having sex with them, and this advantage is not entirely because of the biological differences between the two sexes. It's also because they're often less obvious in their intentions, as well, in my opinion.

[Jamie05rhs]

I think that most guys have no clue about the games that girls are playing.

I also think that half of the girls are getting played and don't know it, while the other half THINK they're getting played when the guy is completely innocent and therefore they sabotage what could have been a really beautiful relationship.

[DizzyDesii]

Hmm good question. A guy who is not interested in hookups will catch on quickly. For a lot of us girls, we dont catch on until after sometime because a lot of guys are good at pretending to be what we want

[Jamie05rhs]

@DizzyDesii I'm not interested in hookups, and yet I'm not catching on. Lol

[DarkWinterNights]

Maybe I’m just in a bubble, but I see a lot more guys lately with zero tolerance for BS. I see just as many women asking the same questions in their TikToks and Instagram Reels that I did 5 years ago.

[ProbablyClueless]

More men are catching onto the games that women play because honestly, men's "games" just aren't that clever. Most men aren't socially savvy enough to play the kinds of games women think men play. Interestingly, most women aren't socially savvy enough to play those games either.

[handsomelad70]

Likely the latter. Most men have trouble hiding their double dealings because our lust often trips us up, while women, because of the double standard about their randiness opposed to us lads', are better at hiding their illicit activity

[Vegasrunner]

Great question. I would say guys catching on to the games girls play. Mostly because guys are pretty straightforward and everyone knows what they want, while girls typically have to play games. I think w/ all the platforms that allow woman to express themselves about dating, most guys are starting to put two and two together.

[BonzoInBitburg]

I think everyone is on to each others games and imagining even more games

[Talea]

It's definitely the guys catching on to us.

We women have always played games, and I must admit that we have been known to be quite manipulative, and a lot of guys are seeing through it now.

[JacobJordan]

Guys absolutely are which is why it is becoming more and more common to see women complaining that they can't find a man

[Anonymous]

More guys for sure. Because now you have a bunch of feminist that are brand new springing up everyday saying they swear off men. However, men don’t really give a rats ass.. a lot of men are waking up and learning their worth and having boundaries. Now if men would stop being weak and paying for porn and only fans we can truly become great again.

[DextroShade]

More guys are getting red-pilled thanks to guys like Kevin Samuels, Andrew Tate, and Myron Gaines. This means fewer and fewer guys will simp.

[SolitarySolace]

More guys catching on to the games women play. Because a lot of guys aren’t playing the game anymore. They know it’s not worth it.

[WhitneySnow]

I think it’s pretty much equal. You can’t generalize by gender that way.

[Anonymous]

Guys are catching on to the games that girls play, hence they are not dating women or totally ignoring them in bar/clubs on their nights out with their mates/ bros.

[YevBor]

Girls play guys to have attention and feel desirable, guys plays girls to have sex and feel more powerful. Simple as that.

[tremendousfern]

The only winning move is not to play.

[NathanDavis]

I don't know about games...

[laly520]

playing such games is for kids or pre teens

[Slim57]

I think guys see it easier