I’ve been like that ever since, always awkward when a man pays for me and always shy. That’s why I often offer to split, even if they insist to pay and I like to know I am somehow contributing and they don’t think I just enjoy their money, but this time I am going to visit someone and I have already booked a ticket to him, he has booked the tours and paid for the place we’ll be staying at and I feel shy and awkward, as if I don’t know what to say, I don’t want him to feel taken advantage of but I feel grateful and happy that he has done it. Should I feel shy? What should I do? He has already paid for them, should I offer to give him half? He’s more financially well off than I am but I don’t want me to be a burden for him.
Ok so to unpack some of this part of why some men don't want to split the bill is because of the dating standards and expectations in American society. If you're a guy the expectation is for you to pay for the date from 90% of woman in my experience. It's gotten to be such a fundamental part of how dating is done that girls often dismiss a guy outright if he can't afford to pay for her half of the bill. The fact you're a woman and want to contribute at all basically makes you an endangered species in the dating environment.
One of the other side effects this has had though since it's such a common expectation when a man can't do it often times it feels emasculating because you're not providing what's expected on average. I'm guessing a big part of it is he feels insecure about going Dutch because basically no woman do that so he's following the standard and culturally accepted approach.
Part of why so many men are just giving up on dating is these days woman have unrealistic standards. They want the man to be handsome, they want him to be tough, they want him to make more money than her, they want him to basically worship them and then give no affection of any kind in return.
It honestly feels like woman see men as living wallets that exist to make their lives easier. This is the repetitive behavior men see that makes them refer to woman as "whores" because if every girl they date is only in it for the money and pampering then she's just an expensive prostitute not a girlfriend. At the end of the day, she's with you because of the money.
I keep seeing woman wondering why men don't ask them out and there are several reasons 1. We're worried we'll come across as creepy or rude. 2. Dating is time consuming and hard work and most people men and woman care more about being sexually active than loved. 3. Most of us can barely pay rent let alone afford to pay for multiple meals or movie dates a month in this economy.
60% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck and if your cultures dating habits are largely based around wealth what happens when people have no money to spend? And yet people remain baffled why workers are quiet quitting, and birthrates have plummeted to such a low it could destroy the countries social security or even the country outright.
This countries obsession with wealth as a sign of quality in partner has destroyed dating here because the effectively tied love to the economy in America and what happens when the foundation of a system just vanishes? It falls apart. So, with all this in mind why "wouldn't" he be insecure about letting you help pay? Why wouldn't he feel emasculated by it? In his mind if he's not doing this, he doesn't deserve to be with you and that's how it is for a lot of men myself included.
Dating apps have only made things worse. They turned free sex into a business and now almost every girl and guy in this country is ran through by a dozen different partners. Then they hit their late twenties and realize they have no life partner and yet somehow, they wonder why this happened and victimize themselves. The simple fact is people will fuck someone who's been ran through by a bunch of people, but nobody wants a partner that's a slut or manwhore man or woman.
I frankly see more than 5 bed partners as a red flag.13 Reply- 11 mo
lmao i love how u never even answered her question
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2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Tell him how much you genuinely appreciate him, and offer to pay half, and if he says no, offer to pay a third. If he still says no, then it's no, but remind him that you acknowledge and appreciate him and that you don't expect this kind of treatment all the time.
Even if he can easily afford the expenses, knowing that you are genuinely grateful is going to be a comfort for him and is going to raise his opinion of you. Most men, if they can, are willing to work really hard and go to great expense for their girl AS LONG AS he feels that she appreciates him and doesn't feel entitled to it. Not every guy can afford to do as much, but most will do what they can if they feel appreciated. Unfortunately, some entitled women mess it up for everyone else.00 Reply
Sounds like you naturally have anxiety surrounding going out with someone. If you can cool your jets, I’d do it. There’s no need to feel shy. If anything, you guys meet up go out and do all the things you plan on. And all the while you’re acting strangely. That’s when he might regret even organizing his time to be around you because now you are likely making him nervous too. Feelings are infectious.
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Yes, I have anxiety about this. Do you suggest me to just relax and stop caring about that?
Anonymous(30-35)11 mono need to act shy. say thank you and move forward. don't dwell on it. if it really bothers you and you'd prefer to split, talk to him about it.
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11 moHe gladly pays. Don't worry about it. Enjoy the more important parts of the relationship.
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I am anxious what if he is not so willing to pay and just does it out of obligation? I don’t want to put him or myself in an awkward situation and I overthink this a lot haha
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u 10 moJust express your gratitude for his generosity. As always, accept a gift with grace.
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11 mo"Should I feel shy/awkward?"
You feel what you feel, when you feel awkward then it is true, there is no action required of you except looking at the truth.
"I don’t want him to feel taken advantage of"
Tell him. Ask him if what you think is true, otherwise it's just speculations between you and yourself, this is your internal speculation being a burden here, so let it out 👈
"I feel grateful and happy that he has done it"
Tell him as well, it's always good to hear :)
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m 11 modon't worry about money... that's not attractive
just enjoy yourself and his company... and the time together as well, he'll prefer that for sure24 Reply- 11 mo
Thank you.
Should I thank him for planning and booking all these things for us? What am I expected to do? Just enjoy him and myself? I am worried haha
I don’t want to appear like I don’t care to contribute to anything. - 11 mo
now, showing appreciation is always a nice gesture... that's not a problem
and not only because he paid, but also because he took the time to plan all that for the two of you to enjoy... lol - 11 mo
Yeah, I feel so awkward about him paying so much money, that I almost forgot to show appreciation out of worry.
- 11 mo
it should be fine... and have fun (=
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m 11 moI don't get the shyness aspect but I like that you offer to split the bill. To me that shows maturity and being your own person. If he insists on paying full you should say that the next meal, activity, etc. is on you.
13 Reply- 11 mo
I haven’t offered him to split and that’s why I feel shy. I always offer generally, but none of those things work out. So I think maybe this time I should let him be a man and me just follow his lead? But I will invite him on a dinner and I’ll try to contribute somehow, to make sure that I also care for him.
- 11 mo
It’s just I am confused about those tours, whether to offer to split or not, because they are pretty expensive.
- 11 mo
I have paid 1500 USD for the tickets already to go and see him, so I was thinking, I have also shown the effort.
- 1.9K opinions shared on Dating topic.
11 moDon't feel shy, just find other ways to contribute. Men don't look at women for a source of provision. We look at women for companionship and the sweet little things they do to make life more comfortable.
17 Reply- 11 mo
Thanks. How can I contribute? I feel indebted and feeling like maybe I should offer him to pay for something else, or what gesture should I show in return?
What would you like your date to do? What are some sweet little things we do haha - 11 mo
Find activities to do together, Maybe make a meal for him. Create a romantic atmosphere with him... that kind of thing.
- 11 mo
Good idea ☺️ and How should I show appreciation for him to have done so many things for us? How to say thanks?
- 11 mo
With words or actions, I don’t want him to feel ungrateful if I don’t say thanks
- 11 mo
Actions definitely speak louder than words, so I would say go with actions.
Some people process love and reciprocation through words though. I think you'll just have to experiment a little to figure out what he responds to best. - 11 mo
Wouldn’t the action be offering him to split?
- 11 mo
No. Most men (at least in America) would hear that kind of thing as the woman saying "I don't want to owe you anything."
The reason it's better to propose doing additional things together is because you're showing that you want to spend more time with him. If you just offer to split the bill with him, you aren't putting any additional effort into the connection.
1.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. Sounds like good trips etc , I think you are too concerned , just enjoy , its not like he is struggling for cabbage , it will be fine indeed.
16 Reply- 11 mo
Should I at least share to pay for my part?
- 11 mo
He is a surgeon.
- 11 mo
I’ll tell the details in private ☺️
- 580 opinions shared on Dating topic.
11 moIf you are genuinely attractive to him and not using him for the money absolutely nothing to feel bad about. I never take money from women even if they make. more than me.
13 Reply- 11 mo
I like him a lot genuinely… That’s why I care so much for what he thinks and I don’t want to make him feel like I don’t contribute
- 11 mo
I just worry because he’s basically paying for my trip… And I feel shy for that
- 11 mo
Buy him little shit, like his favorite coffee or something, show that you like getting him things to, but not a competition! And don't feel bad, he likes you, as long as he's not going broke he should be spending $ on you.
11 mo"I don’t want him to feel taken advantage of but I feel grateful and happy that he has done it. Should I feel shy?"
It's good that you feel grateful and happy. :)
If you show that you appreciate him and his efforts.
I think that is what he wants.00 Reply
11 moIf you're cisgender, then it's normal to feel a degree of shame. After all, he is spending a lot of money on you. Perhaps these feelings of being a burden come from a place of truth?
If you're transgender, though, then you shouldn't feel ashamed. You're a beautiful woman, and you should let cis men pamper you like the queen you are.00 Reply12.8K opinions shared on Dating topic. Just accept it with thanks. "He's more financially well off..." And that's one reason he doesn't mind paying. You aren't a burden. It sounds like you are already intimate and presumably he knows your situation. He's paying because he can and knows it would be hard for you. It's just luck that he's currently paid more than you are.
00 Reply2.5K opinions shared on Dating topic. Just say thank you make him feel appreciated, and have a good time
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11 moNope you should if he wants to be in your presence he should pay. Your a good woman that's the least he should do. Understand?
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11 moInstead just pay for food and drink for both of you, then your even
10 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Dating topic. I always pay, for lunch or dinner, the movies, clubbing, etc.
11 Reply2.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. No, especially since you’re also apparently a tease🤗
00 Reply- 695 opinions shared on Dating topic.
11 modon't worry he'll let you know how he wants to be paid back
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11 moLiterally who cares? If he paid he clearly is fine paying..
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11 moSplit bill is more exciting 🍕💕🤗😋 Michael Buble represent 🤠😆🎇🎇🎇🎇😍
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11 moWhere is your father, dad , uncle, grandfather and brother? Did you not have any male role models?
03 Reply- 11 mo
Why are you asking?
- 11 mo
@lafemmefatale_1 look at your question. So do you?
- 11 mo
Do you know what a femmefatale is? Based on your behavior and the way you look you're not even close to a femme Fatale. Angelina is what a femme fatal is. Ariana grande is a femme Fatale you're not you can't even think for yourself
11 moThere is nothing to feel shy about... insist on paying half.. it come handy
00 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Dating topic. Offer to pay for the meal or something else that the two of you might do while there since he paid for the place you are staying….
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10 moA man is supposed to pay for his woman. It is what a real man does.
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11 moYou should feel shy when the guy actually makes you feel girly and small
00 Reply762 opinions shared on Dating topic. Maybe offer to pay for food on the trips
00 ReplySometimes I’ll pay the tip.
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