Being “Queer” in College

[Ellie-V]

For the peeps who may be apart of the lgbt+ and getting ready for the college experience. I think I’m qualified to talk about this since I am a pansexual woman, about to graduate in just a few months.

1. For the most part, no one cares

If you happen to still be in the closet and university is around the corner, do not fret. College is the time to be OUT of that gosh darned closet 😂 It won't even matter if there aren’t a ton of other young adults like you at your school of choice. Why? Because now you’re dealing with actual like-minded adults who are too busy trying to not be broke. Not a lot of people have the free time to be loud n proud bigots. Of course there will be those group of people who are totally against your preference, lifestyle, and/or identity. But I guarantee you 99% of them won’t have the balls to say it to your face. If you want to watch out for the rest of he 1%, you can. But it isn’t necessary.

Now if you just so happen to live in a conservative area or if your school of choice is in a conservative area then...oof. That 99% might drop significantly. But I encourage you to not be discouraged. Let your freak flag fly and do not be afraid to be yourself. You are an adult now. Do you, make your money, get your education and keep it pushing.

2. The bi curious George’s 😐

These people can either be extremely annoying or extremely fun. This depends on you. Are you a gay man or lesbian lady? Or even bisexual? Well congratulations, that easily makes you a target for all the busy bodies who can’t/won’t make up their mind.

Bi curious people in college usually aren’t serious about their “curiosity”. A lot of them just want to dib and dabble for the hell of it, and that’s fine. Just don’t make anyone make you feel like a science experiment. Yes, hookup culture does exist in most schools but at the end of the day every individual has feelings. And maybe your heart is not capable of feeling used, especially when it comes to the amusement of those who don’t take sexual identity seriously.

But like I said, they could be extremely fun as well. Maybe college will be your time to experiment yourself and bi curious people usually come with no strings attached. Most of them end up deciding they are straight anyway.

3. Your choice of voice

University life is sort of notorious for the ongoing protests the students involve themselves in.

I know there are some lgbt+ people who really don’t care about the politics or the “community” aspect that comes with the territory of not being straight. So if you have lgbt friends who want to march or go to pride or whatever kind of big event... you don’t have to join in on all the fuss.

I say this because one of my friends got really hot headed about me not going to last pride parade. Some will feel like if you aren’t full on SJW for Queers, then you’re not really gay/les/trans/non-binary, whatever. Just don’t let anyone pressure you into doing the most when it’s just not in your character. But maybe you do want to do the most and that is fine, but don’t go pressuring others as well.

4. For my trans folks...

Unfortunately, you probably won’t find many people such as yourselves specifically. And I know that for people like you, it can be a lot easier to express yourself when you’re not the only one “out”. Sometimes it really sucks to be a minority.

Yes, the media does normalize and promote the acceptance of minorities (no matter who it is). But don’t get it confused. You’re still a minority.

So you probably won’t get to connect with other tans people in college, but what you can do (if it matters to you that much) is try to find drag shows around/near your area. Yes, for the most part it’s filled with gays. But there are also trans people there. If if you cannot find that environment then I encourage you to either embrace the rest of the lgbt+ community or find an online group for trans folks.

I love you ❤️ and I don’t want you to feel lonely when you don’t have to. Because when you haven’t 100% transitioned, I know it can be really hard to find your crowd.

And not every trans person is going to have a lonely experience, so hopefully that won’t be you. However you should mentally prepare yourself for the negative reality you may face as you become a trans adult.

5. Semi-Serious relationships

Now this last one is for my females who swing on both sides...if you date a guy who KNOWS you are bi/pan, do not be surprised if he asks you for a threesome.

Why am I calling this a semi serious relationship?

Well, because not a lot of people in college want long term deals. But the many who try will still have sneaky ways to dib and dabble, you know 😏

6. Yes, the DEVILS TANGO!

Be safe. Be responsible with your own body. Get checked regularly and REQUIRE your partners to get checked as well. Look at them document👀

It better say “clean” or “negative” or any other word that means they ain’t got nothing nasty.

Everyone should be safe yes but we all know hat gay men in particular have the highest std rates...unfortunately.

Aside from all that, roofies and date rape and all that stuff is real so be extra careful at parties. And sometimes you being open and out of the closet can make you a target for the creeps in the world. Bring a water bottle, and drink with a foil cover and a straw to limit the possibility of someone spiking your water. If you wanna get lit, fine, but please pour your own drink!!!

That is all. I love you, lovelies 💕 Thanks for reading!

[A-man-22]

I'm not going to complain if LGBT just acts like the rest of us just has a different sexuality.

What really annoys me is that they think waving flags and going on big pride parades will make them seen as the norm by society.

Non LGBT people don't do this.
If you want LGBT to be considered normal like straight is don't act like you are special.

Pansexual is also I feel the tipping point for:
people who want to get on in society just have a different sexuality
To:
People who want to destroy a model that has worked for 2+ millenia just because they can't get over the fact you don't need to exactly fit in a category to be in a category.

Pansexual is not having a gender preference when it comes to dating.
Bisexuals don't mind dating either men or women.

In my opinion this makes them almost the same.

[FallOutBoy2001]

Pride is more for us than it is for anyone else. We have Pride as a way of showing each other that "hey, we're here, we've not had our spirits crushed, and you are not alone."

Pan vs Bi is really nuanced, but it's sort of up to the individual person. I think I might technically be pan - I don't care what's in your pants, you can be a girl with a dick or a guy with a pussy and I'll still be into you if there's a connection - but I prefer to classify myself as bi because I normally go for people who identify as male or female. Pan just sort of says that you go for people who might not identify as either (which is their own right)

[Ellie-V]

What @FallOutBoy2001 said.

The labels are more of a personal thing. It doesn’t matter if you agree or not, the label is for me. I know what and who I am. I know what I like.
But you are right. Pansexuality is not having a gender preference. That is EXACTLY the point. If you see Bi and Pan as the same, then good for you.

Straight people don’t need or want a pride for themselves. Straight people don’t have a history of being bullied and ostracized BECAUSE of their sexuality.
Pride is for the lgbt to celebrate ourselves and support one another. It’s not for you, unless you just want to be apart of it. Straight people go to pride as well.

[FallOutBoy2001]

Exactly. My parents reacted very poorly to me being trans. The fact that I had other LGBT people to lean on who knew what I was going through was very helpful, and it was very good to be able to see other people being out and proud. Straight and cis people don't really have to worry that much about parents abusing them because of who they are or who they like.

[Ellie-V]

@FallOutBoy2001 I do understand that. I had tried to come out to my Christian mother a few times when I was in middle and high school. But she threatened to kick me out every time. I didn’t have lgbt people to go to then, but I do now that I am out in college.
Trust me, once you leave and venture out on your own it gets so much better.

[A-man-22]

That's Christianity for you.
The super religious part of America is quite horrible personally.
Religion causes way too many problems.

Anyway, it just gets really grating that you constantly have to be reminded that LGBT exists.

I know it exists and I won't stop you being it. But you'd complain if straight month was a thing and straight marches were on TV every fortnight.

I don't agree with having too many categories for gender/sexuality.
Why? Because that's what names are for. You want an individual label that defines you, that's what your name is.
If you don't quite fit into a sexuality you don't need to create a new one, just explain how you feel to the people you date.

This is why I don't support pride but I do not mind LGBT.

I glad you can talk about this civilly, many LGBT members are way too quick to play the victim card. I may have different views to you but I respect the right to have a civil debate.

[FallOutBoy2001]

I'm glad you were also able to sit down and discuss it in a civil manner too

[John_Doesnt]

"a model that has worked for 2+ millenia" Wtf does that mean? Probably some Christian crap.

[FallOutBoy2001]

@John_Doesnt Eh, I'm Catholic, I'd like if religion didn't get dragged into this. I do agree, the model didn't really work (lots of cultures had 3+ genders)

[John_Doesnt]

@FallOutBoy2001 why 2+ millennia? The Earth has had life for billions of years.

[A-man-22]

I'm atheist so it's not some Christian bs.

I just don't see the use of overcomplicating things.

I don't see anything wrong with the binary system.

I feel people see it in a wrong light.

If you are male, you don't have to be super manly buff and macho.

'male' and 'female' are very loosely defined.

Of course most languages have neutral as well, I'm fine with this.

I just don't see the benefits of having 60+ categories to fit people into.

I thought you guys didn't want labels yet you made your own.

(Before you say, that sex not gender, gender studies changed the meaning of gender in the 20th century without running it through the rest of the scientific community so to me and the general population, sex and gender are very similar)

These dislikes are what I was on about with the civil debate thing

I'm far from a problem for LGBT. Yet disagree with them one bit and they hate on you.
It's a bit toxic that LGBT can't take criticism well.

[Kaneki05]

Agree with the pride thing be dumb. I take the piss out of it saying stright pride is a thing.

I say i don't support LGBT but i don't go ageist them ethier because at the end of the day i couldn't careless what your into longs if it don't hurt people or me.

But pride is support something that don't need to be in these day's and it's just annoying and causes more soical anixty for people. It's just Bs at the end of the day.

[FallOutBoy2001]

@Kaneki05 Support IS something we need. You have no idea how much some of our parents are against our lifestyles. My parents have tried to kick me out twice and made it incredibly clear they don't support me, and I know scores of other people who are in the same situation.

[A-man-22]

The older generation is definitely not as open to it.

I was raised just before LGBT really took off but i have never seen a problem with homosexuality or bisexuality.

In the coming years the older generation will , well get old etc etc. So these views will become less prevalent.

However it is a delicate tipping scale.

Support for LGBT shouldn't be over done as that can lead to heterosexuality either feeling left out.

It just gets depressing sometimes seeing the opposite side gain support when you weren't around when your side had lots of support.

[FallOutBoy2001]

I think Pride will die down in the coming decades. I hope by the time that I'm a parent that parents are much more accepting of their kids.

[Kaneki05]

@FallOutBoy2001 cannot wait for it to slow down.

Also who cares what your parents say, all that matters is other young people don't see you any differently for been different.

[Ellie-V]

@Kaneki05
Coming home everyday to threats and abuse from the ones who are supposed to love you unconditionally is not something you can just brush off.

[Kaneki05]

Meh i can and have so don't really get why others cannot. It's pretty easy.

[Ellie-V]

@Kaneki05 congratulations ☺️

[FallOutBoy2001]

@Kaneki05 It just sort of makes living at home really hard. I don't mind it, personally, but it's a lot of emotional abuse that seems to worm its way into my thinking, and I hate that shit, and I hate the lack of stability that means I don't know if i'm going to college or if I can even get my high school diploma.

[Kaneki05]

@FallOutBoy2001 yea but pride ain't gonna stop a parent hating. Pride is just pointless at the end of the day.

Just go to a bar and clebrate like how others do or just don't. No need to go on the streets like idiots.
Heck hold a festival if you want but not walk around in the middle of a city just been annoying.

Plus it's pretty easy to block parents our with stuff like that just go to your bedroom and problem solved. Plus you know no one else is bothered if your gay or trans or anything so you can just remember that and stay stong easy.

[FallOutBoy2001]

@Kaneki05
A) it's not to stop parents hating, it's for us to see "hey, there's others like us" and to help us connect and celebrate being who we are, in spite of parents

B) My parents will fucking break my door down and take it off the hinges. They FOLLOW me around the house. I don't know why they won't leave me alone but they won't.

[A-man-22]

Thanks for the mho!

[aa180]

Great advice for the LGBT+ community. I think most people these days are either accepting or simply indifferent towards people of your sexuality, and they'll probably become more accepting over time anyways. But great take :)

[Ellie-V]

That’s why my first point was that most people don’t care

[MlleCake]

It also helps to choose colleges that aren't restrictive about the private sexual conduct of consenting adult students. Very religious colleges tend to be the worst.

One can definitely make LGBT acceptance a necessary criteria for choosing. And you can research what the general culture is before applying.

Public universities tend to be more accepting, at least in the US.

[unKN1GHTed]

What happens if a white, male, straight, Trump-supporter went to a college in your area? How would he be accepted there?

[MlleCake]

@unKN1GHTed Um, probably just debated with, and left to his own most of the time. I mean, College kids LOVE to debate because they are learning so much that opens their eyes to new realities. But, it would be very rare to see a guy like that harassed, threatened and niggled constantly when he is just walking to class or buying something at the bookstore.

But LGBT people, women, and minorities have experiences where they just get fucked with nearly every time they emerge from their dorm.

To be honest here, I can't imagine that that white dude is going to experience that kind of harassment much. Maybe some. Maybe a lot if he shows up at a Pride rally. I'm not saying it never happens anywhere, but it is just so not comparable at all.

[unKN1GHTed]

Interesting, because many of my friends are constantly harrassed on social media and real life for being republican. I'm a supporter myself, but I care about my education too much. Also, my professors are always pushing us to be leftist.

On the other hand, I see many LGBT people who are openly gay, have many friends, are supported, and even praised for their sexuality, and get better scholarships.

I guess different people have different experiences.

[MlleCake]

@unKN1GHTed I mean, yeah, some Trump dudes who trumpet their Trumpiness everywhere and anywhere get a pretty harsh response. Yep. I see it.

There is a BIIIIIG difference though. I can go into it if you want but I am sure you won't be able to swallow it, so I shant push it on you.

And I do see places where LGBT people are having a great life, mostly free from direct unprovoked incursions. I almost never catch shit for being bisexual anymore. It has gotten waaaay better in some places.

But not ALL places. Not yet.

I shudder to imagine what would happen to an out LGBT person at Brigham Young or Bob Roberts though.

[Ellie-V]

A homosexual couple holding hands down street is more likely to catch flack than a heterosexual couple.
just my 2 cents...

[unKN1GHTed]

No, my friends are Trump supporters who talked about him on Facebook and have been harassed ever since. They didn't "parade" it around.

I get shivers down my back imagining a Trump-supporter trying to make friends in San Francisco.

[unKN1GHTed]

LGBT is mainstream now, let's face it. The left is also not very accepting of opposing views, and all opposing views get shut down immediately with shame-tactics.

[unKN1GHTed]

@Ellie-V

I see plenty of gay people holding hands and even making out in public. People ignored them. However, if someone wears a MAGA hat they will be ostracized.

[Ellie-V]

@unKN1GHTed
My point had nothing to do with trump.
And the reason why people who wear MAGA catch flack is because trump himself is a figure of racism and hate. Whether he really is racist and hateful is a different story. But every since he got nominated, more of the anti LGBT, anti black/jews have come out of the woodwork. So the trump name is very much associated with hate and violence.
I’m not justifying anything. I’m only explaining.

[MlleCake]

Ok, so here's the deal with the MAGA hat crowd. I'm going to have to go there so you get the distinction I am making.

Yes, there is more LGBT acceptance in the world now because millions and millions of people have figured out that it just doesn't hurt anything for people to be LGBT and they decided it was a waste of time persecuting them because of a religious belief that is getting less and less common, and also can't demonstrate how that belief should be universal for the whole society which is actually secular and can't make policy decisions based on something that is just a religious beliefs any way.

Whereas MAGA hat Trump supporters are actually, probably wrong or maybe straight up lying, about tons of the rhetoric they swallow, and many are also trying to present racism, sexism, anti-immigrant sentiment, and all kinds of regressive illogical prejudiced values seem like a legitimate point of view, even a Christian point of view, which it is clearly not, and bleedingly obvious to people who are astute and educated readers and critical thinkers. And they got an actual tyrant who spouts 100% poppycock, lies, bullshit, non-facts and garbage non stop into office with the obvious collusion of a foreign entity who means to use the alliance to enrich themselves and leave the US in disarray like a wadded up Cheeto bag after they have plundered all the Cheetos. Trump and that rhetoric that goes with him is actually lies and non-facts sprinkled with a few things that look true enough that it makes the whole package appear Tru to anyone who doesn't do their homework to figure out what reality is. It is NOT a defensible position. These are not just reasonable people who disagree with "us". These are actually delusional fascist mobs who will break the planet if the rest of us don't make them stop. And fascists deserve the beat down. Forever and always.

[Ellie-V]

Preach it 🤧💕👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[unKN1GHTed]

"wrong or maybe straight up lying, about tons of the rhetoric they swallow, and many are also trying to present racism, sexism, anti-immigrant sentiment, and all kinds of regressive illogical prejudiced values seem like a legitimate point of view, even a Christian point of view, which it is clearly not, and bleedingly obvious to people who are astute and educated readers and critical thinkers. And they got an actual tyrant who spouts 100% poppycock, lies, bullshit, non-facts and garbage non stop into office with the obvious collusion of a foreign entity who means to use the alliance to enrich themselves and leave the US in disarray like a wadded up Cheeto bag "

This what I mean. Debate and free speech is made impossible because leftists can't help but resort to saying "racist, mysogynist, hate speech". You're using the same shame-tactics as everyone else, acting like your opinion is right and they are wrong, in a very arrogant and demeaning way.

Trump is not racist, Trump is pro-LEGAL immigration, Trump is not sexist but can be seen as rude, and Trump is actually making our economy stronger and our country safer.

But of course, to you I'm nothing but a bigot. Because emotions are important than logic yeah? Better just to ignorantly shame people you disagree with.

[unKN1GHTed]

Hillary Clinton, however, has made many actual racist comments when she was younger. She used to be an open racist. But that doesn't matter does it? Because she's not Trump and Trump is so popular to hate.

So if someone disagrees with you, it's best to just ruin their lives. I'm sure that's how a functioning society is meant to be.

[MlleCake]

@unKN1GHTed So, yes, I get what you're saying, and I get why you think it. But here's the deal - no one is infringing on the freedom of speech on the right because you don't actually understand what freedom of speech means. And the reason you don't understand is because people didn't make sure you learned when you were younger so then when someone tells you that so-and-so is infringing on their free speech you don't know that unless they were somehow physically forced to shut up, they had freedom of speech. What they are trying to say is that if private citizens interrupt you, argue with you and disagree with you that is the same as making it so the words can't come out of your mouth. And they are trying to say that when people create a private club and tell you "you can go say that stuff anywhere else they will let you, but you can't say it here" is the same as making it so the words can't come out of your mouth.

No one owes you silence and a platform. You may really want that. I get it. And there are places where you can totally gather people who won't vociferously shout you down, and who will let you say exactly what you want to say, without barring you. You are totally welcome to go to one of them. They aren't even rare or hard to find, because now you can do it all over the internet - you don't even need a physical place where people can watch you utter your words live. It's so easy.

What they are actually trying to say is that they have the absolute right to make Liberals stop arguing back and make us invite you into every private place where you are not welcome to tell us a bunch of crap we don't agree with, especially because all of it is lies. Totally one hundred percent all the way lies. Because there is a very important thing you don't seem to grasp. We're totally cool with rational debate with people we disagree with but are reasonable, more-or-less honest, decent and intelligent people.

[unKN1GHTed]

Free speech means the ability to express your views without censorship or restraint from the government. I know this, I'm a law student.

The government may not be restraining or censoring what I say directly but the government IS allowing others to infringe other people's free speech, mostly Republicans, just like in the case of Alex Jones, many YouTubers, where they have to limit their own beliefs and opinions just to appease the platform that gives them access to speak freely. Porn isn't even as banned as much as Republicans are.

My free speech isn't legally gone, but it might as well be since I fear losing my friends, getting harassed on campus, and having my professors hate me because I don't support the leftist, globalist, agenda.

All because leftists are incapable of debate and would rather name-call than use logic.

[MlleCake]

But Trumism is not that. It is not even Republican. It is a fascist movement. And it is completely built on a dizzying constant stream of claims about stuff that literally never happened. Didn't happen at all. Once in a while they find out a truth that a Democrat did a wrong thing once too and they conflate that to mean all of us are hypocrites. (I'm not a Democrat by the way, but you don't get that Democrats aren't the only people on the left, or that many right wing people also see through his lies.) And they also throw in some true things that happened, but then they lie about what it means, so then it's really not truth anymore.

You are a victim of a very long term, calculated bamboozlement that had the seed planted way before you were even born.

So many of us were witness to so many things that were said to be facts but just weren't, and we have been trying to put it back the way it should be, for decades.

But, I appreciate that you maybe don't really understand all the ways that it is impossible for a ton of this to be true, probably because exhaustively fact checking everything is onerous and unpleasant and also really hard to do. And you have shit to do, you know, cook dinner, go to class, watch cat videos, and so on. So, you don't really have the time to do it even if you were so inclined. And that is all totally understandable and normal. But they were counting on that, and what they did was plaster every surface with their crap so there was just so much of it that no one could keep up.

But here's the deal. I am just too tired to keep trying to reason with people who have been brainwashed or are just spouting things they know to be lies to begin with. Sorry. It's just too much to ask, and also doesn't seem to work.

This is not normal. It is not like how it used to be. It is not just two reasonable sides who disagree. This is an actual platform of dangerous fascist nonsense. And fascist nonsense is not a a defensible point in any way.

[unKN1GHTed]

It's not "fascism" it's capitalism and nationalism. But if you think I'm brainwashed because I believe people need background checks then I suppose that's the extent of our "debate" and further proves
your intolerance of other's opinions.

I will no longer reply.

[MlleCake]

Good politics is people of many different backgrounds mostly agreeing to hear each other out and everyone working from an honest desire to make the world work. There are some people who enter with bad motives and aren't actually working toward what is best for the well-being of all things on the planet. They are often motivated by greed. But as long as the whole system is not overrun by these guys, and the people with the good intentions are the majority, then things do kind of work out ok. That is NOT what we're seeing here.

What is happened here is a conspiracy by a lot of people with bad motives was created and planted, and fed so it grew big and even kinda pretty looking if you didn't look too close. And then when they knew they had people buying enough of their nonsense, they dramatically increased the nonsense and then everything just got out of control and became sooooo far fetched. But it was too late. The believers had totally drunk the fascist kool-aid and you can't unring that bell. You just have to get those fascists off the planet as fast as you can. Even real Republicans are aware of this.

So, go debate with your shoe. You have no facts or reasonable points. You just don't. And I can't make that different for you. It's a waste of time to try to debate with people who are actually psychotic and desperately want you to agree with purple monkey baseball. What is purple monkey baseball? It's just three random words that the psychotic mind plucked out of the fog and they don't mean anything. They are just nonsense.

Go read better stuff from reliable news organizations. There are so many unreliable information sources out there that you really have to be able to tell the signs of the bullshit really quickly and go read something else and not bother with the nonsense.

You are not being told real things that actually happened. I can't fix that for you.

[ovixs90]

@unKN1GHTed :D You can check that on youtube. :DD

[unKN1GHTed]

@ovixs90 I have, I've also seen videos where college students don't mind the ISIS flag but hate the American flag.

But I'm too brainwashed and nonsensical to say anything, so I will keep my mouth shut, like always, just like the leftists want.

[unKN1GHTed]

@ovixs90 Because their ideology only survived by using purposeful ignorance, shame-tactics, and censorship. Debate with any leftist and they will demonstrate this

[Yoooooooooooou]

Why are you getting hate on this? It was a lovely take and you seem like a sweet person.

[Ellie-V]

Thank you, I appreciate that ☺️
I believe people hate this because they don’t like seeing LGBT related content.

[Yoooooooooooou]

Of course because people on GaG are edgy asf and they do not like lgbt but are all for sex and being shallow but hate loose people yet they're against religion.
Some confusing people on here lmao

[Ellie-V]

Exactly 👏🏾👏🏾

[MyMintFrappe]

Some girls sadly aren't even bi-curious. They know full well they are heterosexual but they "experiment" because they think it makes them appear hotter and adventurous to guys if it gets out that they've been with a girl before. It didn't happen to me but it happened to a good friend of mine. We saw the other girl at a party and no surprise she would bring up how she's been with a girl before when flirting with guys.

[ovixs90]

For me it would be a turn off

[ericclayton]

@ovixs90 Most young girls are very clueless and many assume all men want bisexual women, so some feign it. Truth is, they're mostly going to attract douchbags who want a threesome, rather than an actual boyfriend.

[ManOnFire]

I generally don't care about somebody being gay or lesbian. It's the bisexual females I have no respect for to be completely honest. They seem sleazier to me than anybody. We label men as the ones who will fuck anything, yet females are the ones fucking anything and we're calling it 'sexually flexible,' 'fluid,' or being more comfortable with their sexuality.

I find nothing attractive about a woman who can sleep with both men and women. Sorry.

[Ellie-V]

How is any of that relevant? This is advice for lgbt people who are entertaining college. Has zero to do with your personal distaste for bisexual women.

[ManOnFire]

You wrote about sexuality for college and mentioned bi folks in it. So I'm a straight male giving my opinion on the matter. You can just block me if you don't like it.

[Ellie-V]

I didn’t block you. And it doesn’t matter if I like what you say. Again, your personal distaste for bisexual women is irrelevant. This is advice for the lgbt.

[DanoMR98]

Good take, OP.

Don't bother with the reactionary chuds in the comments here. I'm not queer myself, but as an ally, I would tell you that those people don't matter.

[Lovelygirl420]

America is turning gay. I just want a nice man with a hard dick. No bi, no queer, no fluid shit.

[Ellie-V]

That’s great for you but what does that have to do with the take.

[Kaneki05]

Legit the 1st part saying for the most part no one cares.

Is exactly what i was gonna say, no one really cares in collage and it is the same in school tbh.

[juan101]

lol GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[Ellie-V]

And?

[winterfox10]

Why do you refer to yourself as Pansexual instead of Bisexual?

[Ellie-V]

Because bisexual is just a simplification. The term pansexual is more accurate for me personally.

[winterfox10]

Oh... have you found yourself sexually attracted to a non-conforming person?

[Ellie-V]

Yes, I have

[winterfox10]

Were they more male or female?

[Ellie-V]

Seriously 😐

[winterfox10]

Just curious... idk? I've never met a non-conforming person. At the end of the day, you're having sex with the person's hardware anyway, so it's not like a guy who identifies more as a woman is any less of a man.

[Ellie-V]

I haven’t had sex with a non conforming person. Not to say that I wouldn’t, but the opportunity has never presented itself.
How a person identifies and what parts they were born with are two different things (to me). So if a non conforming person were to side more on the feminine but has male parts, I wouldn’t consider them male at all. That’s just me though.

[winterfox10]

Hmm, fair enough.

[MlleCake]

I still call myself bisexual because that's what we called it in those days, but I have had relationships with gender fluid and gender non-conforming people so I am functionally pansexual.

[Ellie-V]

@MlleCake That’s just as valid. The labels are more of a personal thing, in my opinion.

[MlleCake]

Exactly. It's like six of one, half dozen of the other to me.

[TheGayenner]

If you are pansexual you don't qualify. All that means is you are just a weird pervert. Probably insane.

[Ellie-V]

Sorry you feel that way

[PsychoKiller]

So what are you in the end, homosexual, bisexual or something else? As far as I know "queer" was a derogatory term for homosexuals, but now it sounds like it's a separate thing

[Ellie-V]

This isn’t about my own sexuality. It’s just advice for other lgbt people

[FallOutBoy2001]

Queer is kind of something we reclaimed - other minorities have taken back some terms they find derogatory. Now we kind of use it as a catch-all for anyone who is LGBT

[Eleni91]

Yes luckily I live in Open Minded area of The Country and in the city.

[Effie91]

Nice Take also fined it when you find out who your real friends are.

[psychoticallyawkward]

This is so good! Thanks for sharing.

[laurieluvsit]

Great take as always Ms Ellie! :)

[linaashxx]

I’ll just leave this here.

[Ellie-V]

Really 😂

[Nadim171]

In America, you can't go to college if you're not queer.

[PrincessGrail]

Great Take!!!

[GayHowellMeme]

In Californian colleges everyone is queer

[John_Doesnt]

Doesn't the thought of Cthuluhu bother you?

[Ellie-V]

No. How is that relevant?

[John_Doesnt]

because Cthuluhu created homosexuality.

[Ellie-V]

Good for him 👍🏾

[Kaneki05]

Bruh

[Demetra89]

Good Take and target by hate groups.

[Texaskid1]

WTF is a pansexual?