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Do immigrants find it harder to get a white-collar job in the UK?

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  • DoctorSex
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    Yoda Age: 34 , mho 48%
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    This one's a tough one. As someone who came to the UK at 2 years of age... it's a tough one to answer without sounding like a victim. I turn to ONS (office of National statistics) when dealing with matters like this.

    When comparing university graduates across all demographics and line that up with their current profession. Then it does seem to be skewed towards a particular narrative that says, "yes, clearly immigrants are not being hired at senior positions."

    However I think a lot of that is cultural, for the most part the native British populous do not care much for non western cultures and aren't as flexible in conversations. As a result, they'd naturally feel more comfortable with people like them. I think the best way for immigrants that want to earn serious money in the UK, is to proceed down a self employment track. There are no hurdles in this regards and huge benefits.

    Kind regards,

    DoctorSex

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      Are less immigrants being hired?

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    • DoctorSex
      DoctorSex
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      @babygirl_s of course they're being hired! But in what capacity and what type of job security?

      The hospitality industry is probably the largest immigrant sector in the UK. No surprises that the sector is rife with 0 hour contract, low paid jobs

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      That's too bad.

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  • Wonderwhat
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    Xper 5 Age: 28 , mho 30%
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    Not indians. They're in high demand because they speak English and they're well educated. It's hard for most western countries to find immigrants who speak English and are well educated like indians.

    A lot of immigrants come to those countries for welfare and asylum, so an immigrant with a degree who wants to work is going to be a valuable pick because they're pumping money into the economy.

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  • htmndg183
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    Yoda Age: 27
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    Numerous factors come into play. For eg: international students who graduate with a high grade apply to jobs and they get selected and their employer sponsors their visa application. Might be a bit difficult for someone who moves there because of a spouse visa since employment from different countries is valued differently in the UK and so is education and qualifications.

    In conclusion: as long as the experience is reputable and the education and qualifications are recognised, that will strengthen your case. Lastly, well this is an obvious one, being well versed in English.

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      I read somewhere that immigrants are hired less due to innate racism.

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    • htmndg183
      htmndg183
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      Thats an unfortunate scenario and the reality of certain employers. It is true in many cases. However doesn't mean that Asian citizens will never get employed in the UK.

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      Did you find it harder to get a job?

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    • htmndg183
      htmndg183
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      Next to impossible. My scenario is a. bit different.

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      So do you think it wasn't because of your race?

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    • htmndg183
      htmndg183
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      It surely was. I got a job which needed desi people since it was a desi company. But fortunately i joined the family business. So the job hunts are out of the question for me. Also, i didn't graduate with the best grade, passed with flying colours but most jobs required a higher grade as far as graduate schemes were concerned but im glad how my career is turning out to be.

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      So do I have a better chance if my British employer is a South Asian?

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    • htmndg183
      htmndg183
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      In all honesty that is a rather vague question. I need more detail to work with. What are your qualifications? Experience etc? If thats too long you can tell me in chat. I'll get a clearer picture of the possible scenario.

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  • ChrisMaster69
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    It greatly depends where they come from, skill level at that job, ability to speak, read and write English.

    Also bit old fashioned saying white collar jobs.

    for example a software company is often made up of both guys and girls, with either being a team leader or manager, then ethnicity, country of origin etc is also mixed.

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      Immigrants from which countries are hired less?

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    • ChrisMaster69
      ChrisMaster69
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      Those who don’t speak good English, not as educated, at a guess Afghanistan, Somalia, Ethiopia
      Generalisation going on there as some are very well educated.

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      Do you think there's any discrimination based on the race?
      Also, what do you think about this?
      csi.nuff.ox.ac.uk/.../...hnic-minorities_final.pdf

      It states that minorities are being discriminated against.

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    • ChrisMaster69
      ChrisMaster69
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      Yes and?

      That holds true for pretty much any country on the planet.

      Employers will even when trying not to, will look at things such as other team members, history with certain countries.
      Trying to get certain cultures to work with a team where Team Leader and Manager are girls 🤦

      A major point about the study, you need to understand how recruitment firms work.

      “Between November 2016 and December 2017, we applied to nearly 3200 jobs advertised online on a popular recruitment platform”

      A recruitment firm gets a percentage of the wage of the hired person.

      If a recruitment firm sends people that an employee would likely not hire, then that recruitment firm would not be used.

      For example I’ve recruited various ethnicities, main thing has been very good ability at English language, I have dropped recruitment firms for sending me people that are not good at English.

      Yes discrimination takes place, that’s a fact of life.

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      This isn't true for every country. For instance, there are white people working in India who don't even know the local language.

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      qz.com/.../

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    • ChrisMaster69
      ChrisMaster69
      1 y

      There will obviously be exceptions.

      It does happen in every country, humans are like that

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      No sir. Those are not exceptions. That is how it is. Any white person can easily get a job in India.

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    • ChrisMaster69
      ChrisMaster69
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      So a white person who only speaks Albanian would not be discriminated against.

      Yeah whatever

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      No white person is discriminated against in India. Even Indians face more racism if they go to a different state.

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      Also it seems to be easier to get low paid jobs if you're an Indian living outside India.

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    • ChrisMaster69
      ChrisMaster69
      1 y

      It’s also pretty easy getting high paid software jobs.

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  • DavidRaul
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    Explorer Age: 23
    1 y

    No. That really depends on your skill sets, experience and which field you work in. Its pretty same for the citizens of UK i suppose. But their first preference would be a UK citizen. But if you have the skills and meet their requirements, chances are more of you being hired

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      I guessed that because I've been reading some articles about it and they say that a non-white person will have a harder time.

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    • DavidRaul
      DavidRaul
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      I don't Think so. They are very professional. They see your skills not your race. I would be moving to UK and have researched on this and i don't think anyone would face problems unless you lack skills

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      What do you think about this?
      csi.nuff.ox.ac.uk/.../...hnic-minorities_final.pdf

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      It states that there's discrimination.

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    • DavidRaul
      DavidRaul
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      Well there's discrimination itself in india

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      I don't think there's discrimination against Indians in India.

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    • DavidRaul
      DavidRaul
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      Lol thats an understatement. I have seen people discriminated by people from other states

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    • DavidRaul
      DavidRaul
      1 y

      So there's always some amount of discrimination everywhere. But it doesn't mean that would stop you getting a white collar job

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
      1 y

      But white people can easily get a job in India.
      qz.com/.../

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
      1 y

      There seems to be no discrimination whatsoever against white people.

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    • DavidRaul
      DavidRaul
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      Yeah if they have better work ethics, skills and work experience. Also there's another aspect that comes into play, that is the level of education and where you got your education. Foreign universities have better education , no doubt. Suppose i got my masters from Oxford and a white man gets his master from some mediocre university in UK. Chances are much higher for me to get a job in India rather than a white man. Also my chances would be much higher in UK too, because of the exposure and skill sets i have gained during those years of study. There are many deciding factors

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    • DavidRaul
      DavidRaul
      1 y

      According to that post that would be racial discrimination within our country, and i pity them for that. But the companies in India would always prefer an Indian, just like other countries due to the culture and language. That must be a case, or a few

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
      1 y

      According to this study
      csi.nuff.ox.ac.uk/.../...hnic-minorities_final.pdf
      , even the ones born in the UK can't get jobs. They have a similar education and sometimes even better skills.

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    • DavidRaul
      DavidRaul
      1 y

      Well thats because there's a saturation in employment in some fields. Thats everywhere. With the skill sets i have now, i can't even get a decent job in India itself.

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    • DavidRaul
      DavidRaul
      1 y

      Can you send me the link? I can't seem to open it here and wouldn't show the whole link

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
      1 y

      I think it's a document that you need to download.

      csi.nuff.ox.ac.uk/.../...hnic-minorities_final.pdf

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    • DavidRaul
      DavidRaul
      1 y

      Not able to open it. Also can't copy the whole link. Anyways, leave it

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  • DryGermanGuy
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    Guru Age: 44 , mho 34%
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    Well, America‘s most famous Indian, Apu, works in a supermarket. So, there is that… 🤔

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    • Babygirl_S
      Babygirl_S
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      Exactly, Indians find it easier to get low paid jobs.

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  • TotallyAlmost
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    Guru Age: 33
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    No. Corporate America now openly discriminates against white males and will hire as many immigrants as possible, regardless of their qualifications.

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  • dailyoctopus94
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    Probably, but it's also likely easier if they're a native English speaker, and even more likely if they're a citizen of the Commonwealth.

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  • Amur8711
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    With how America is you could become a politician just based or your race as long as your left leaning.

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  • EaterPeter
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    328 opinions shared on Education & Career topic.

    I don't think so

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  • insteadfew
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    I guess yes.

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